La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2024/25

[Sebas.tian]

Did I hear any rumors that Messi is returning to Barcelona? do you have this information?

I wouldn't want it to be an old heated broth, is there a plan to "use" his talent at best or is it just a marketing operation to capture nostalgic fans?

I stink a lot of commercial operation

I don't think, Barcelona coach will allow that to happen in his time because their coach do everything possible within his power to make Messi stay with them and to enjoy the good plan they have for him but he leave the team to joined PSG team. Now that Barcelona coach has gotten new talented players in this season,I don't think they need Messi before they can perform well in next season, because all those new players has promised their fans to give them victory in all matches in this tournament. I believe, Messi still like to go back to his formal team in this season but Barcelona coach  will not allow him in this season than to try all those new talented squads in this season.

[cygan]

a very nice cartoon that shows the previous duels in the 'el clasico' matches as well as the new duel between K. Benzema and R. Lewandowski in a very successful visual way
for some perhaps a successful desktop wallpaper

[Sterbens]

a very nice cartoon that shows the previous duels in the 'el clasico' matches as well as the new duel between K. Benzema and R. Lewandowski in a very successful visual way
for some perhaps a successful desktop wallpaper

Yes, there are always players who will compete in the heat of the El Clasico match. This is a new era after the previous Ronaldo and Messi. Actually it's not just that player, before there was a trio that competed, at Real Madrid there was a BBC trio and in Barcelona with its MSN.
Yesterday's friendly was a new experience for Lewandowski how hot the tension was between these two rivals.

[Jody.Drummer]

Actually I would prefer to see them (Barcelona) not return Messi to his home (If these rumors are real). I prefer to see them create the atmosphere of their own performance without any intrigue from the players that boost their achievements. Even though Messi is back, there is no guarantee for them that it will take them like a young Messi. I'm really annoyed to see the club still relying on one player.

This rumor has been around since the transfer window opened even when Xavi was just appointed as Barcelona coach at the time and then it disappeared and now it's re-emerged, for me personally returning Messi to Barcelona for now will not be possible. Just imagine, with the many star players with expensive salaries in the Barcelona squad, it will certainly have an impact on financial fairplay. Even now Frenkie de Jong is required to be sold because the high cost of the player's total salary is a problem for Barcelona. Also, if we remember that Messi left Barcelona at that time the problem was about the amount of Messi's salary, even though at that time Messi had agreed to his salary cut but still it was not the best way for Barcelona. So, I personally would not believe about rumors like this, Barcelona is a crazy team that has a lot of debt but continues to form a luxury team, while the debt is not settled.

This is the problem. Carrying Messi is the same as digging their graves once again. Indeed in this case there are some things that would benefit them if Messi was at Camp Nou again because apart from bringing his performances a bit better, it would also bring some back sponsorships and some other financial raises from souvenirs etc.
But on the other hand, salary is still their main problem and this will obviously bring them into trouble like the previous season, so it's not worth it in terms of advantages and disadvantages.

[Razmirraz]

I have mixed feelings about the possible return of Messi for Barcelona. The reason why I'm not very certain of this is that Xavi has been rebuilding the team for a long time. In his new game plan we don't see any player who is the main focus. Messi was exactly like this before he signed for PSG. Their last moments with Messi were still problematic even though Messi was performing wonderfully. Barcelona needed some change in the team and Xavi is doing it now. I think that Barcelona should continue with this system without Messi for one more season at least to see what will happen.

Xavi is building a new team, but no matter how you build the team, there is always room for Messi, right? You always want that on your team, even if you are working with a new team. However, it should not be the case that you build a team to serve Messi, Messi must then function well as a player just like any other player. I think everyone really wants Messi to return to Barcelona.

Messi always gets space in Barcelona, ​​as long as he is still active as a football player, Barcelona will always leave one place for Messi in his squad. Messi has also got a special place in the hearts of Barcelona fans, Messi's arrival to Barcelona has always been awaited by all his loyal fans in Barcelona, ​​but not this season. Barcelona had to wait for Messi partnership with PSG to end to bring him back to Camp Nou.

The strength that Xavi has built is very satisfying for Barcelona fans, Xavi only needs to strengthen the defense with quality players. Barcelona is very ready to face the new season, the strength that Barcelona has can be a threat to Real Madrid in defending the La Liga title.

[1kodumtek7]

There is an interesting situation right now. I have heard that Chelsea are preventing Barcelona from signing Marcos Alonso and Cesar Azpilicueta both. Because Barcelona also are going for Jules Kounde now. If Barcelona sign Kounde it looks like they will need to find new targets for left-back and right-back positions. Chelsea have been really unlucky with Barcelona so far. Barcelona can sign Kounde and cause Chelsea to be disappointed and frustrated again.

By what means did Chelsea prevent Barcelona from signing Marcos Alonso and Cesar Azpilicueta both? It seems even more intense the hunt for new players for every club at this point if any club makes a precaution like you say. In addition, Chelsea have also agreed with the Kounde price set by Sevilla. Then will Chelsea fail to get Kounde when Chelsea know that Barcelona are also after Kounde?

The current situation is just very interesting. There are various sources that one of them is claiming that Chelsea are about to sign him while the other sources are telling us that Barcelona have got ahead of Chelsea in this deal. Even Chelsea started to look for other alternatives after the ambiguity of this transfer which is a good thing they do. Because it looks like Chelsea still want to sign a defender for the starting eleven right beside Koulibaly even though they have many defenders in the team already.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

Messi always gets space in Barcelona, ​​as long as he is still active as a football player, Barcelona will always leave one place for Messi in his squad. Messi has also got a special place in the hearts of Barcelona fans, Messi's arrival to Barcelona has always been awaited by all his loyal fans in Barcelona, ​​but not this season. Barcelona had to wait for Messi partnership with PSG to end to bring him back to Camp Nou.

In Spanish we say that second parts were never good. I think it is in English said as second acts are never a good thing.

In Messi's case, I don't think his hypothetical return to Barça would be a good thing, as he is 35 years old and the fans remember him in his heyday. If he were to return, he would not leave better memories to the fans than in his first stage.

What Barcelona's board is doing is trying to create hope, even if it means risking their financial future, and so far they are doing it well. We will see how his bet turns out.

[hahay]

Messi always gets space in Barcelona, ​​as long as he is still active as a football player, Barcelona will always leave one place for Messi in his squad. Messi has also got a special place in the hearts of Barcelona fans, Messi's arrival to Barcelona has always been awaited by all his loyal fans in Barcelona, ​​but not this season. Barcelona had to wait for Messi partnership with PSG to end to bring him back to Camp Nou.

In Spanish we say that second parts were never good. I think it is in English said as second acts are never a good thing.

In Messi's case, I don't think his hypothetical return to Barça would be a good thing, as he is 35 years old and the fans remember him in his heyday. If he were to return, he would not leave better memories to the fans than in his first stage.

What Barcelona's board is doing is trying to create hope, even if it means risking their financial future, and so far they are doing it well. We will see how his bet turns out.

But in my view the return of Messi is not about Messi's performance in matches, but only to complete the squad and hopefully can provide motivation and input to the young Barcelona squad itself. After all, before I heard about Xavi's statement that Messi should retire at Barcelona which means, Messi's return is not entirely to play for the full 90 minutes. We can see how the senior players in a club, they will not play for the full 90 minutes but to fill the situation and conditions when needed.

[jostorres]

Fo now, if Barcelona bring in Messi, they have to pay him at least equal tih his salary in PSG. And, they must pay for players that already out with free status, and buy him back. Its remind me with Pogba, LOL. With current financial condition, it will be hard for barcelona to bring in back Messi. Buying him will be expensive, don't forget, Messi's salary also very high, this is a difficult decision for Xavi.

I agree, bring back Messi to Camp Nou isn't a good idea. He has a high salary and PSG won't let him leave with cheap transfer fees. Barcelona will spend too much money on Messi, so they may risk their financial status again. Also, Barcelona already has Raphinha and Dembele who played as right-wingers, Barcelona already has Lewandowski and Aubameyang as center-forwards. Where is Messi to play in Barcelona lineups? Bringing Messi back will ruin the current best lineups and hinder the development of young players.

If someone can read this news correctly then surely he can check Barcelona President announces he will try to bring back Messi at NOU Camp in 2023 not in this season because practically it's not possible as they are not in good financial position to take this risk with debit is having big impact on their position, but they also spend good amount on few quality signings and now looking for better results if they succeeded then surely they will look at any other side and with this all we have to watch Messi as well because his form is also very important for them.

If they want him in this season which is not possible practically because of his salary and secondly PSG will also not allow him for this, or they will demand a big amount which is not possible for Barcelona to give them.

[tulusikhlas]

But in my view the return of Messi is not about Messi's performance in matches, but only to complete the squad and hopefully can provide motivation and input to the young Barcelona squad itself. After all, before I heard about Xavi's statement that Messi should retire at Barcelona which means, Messi's return is not entirely to play for the full 90 minutes. We can see how the senior players in a club, they will not play for the full 90 minutes but to fill the situation and conditions when needed.

Indeed there will be a difference of opinion regarding Messi who is a legend for one team. But in my personal opinion regardless of where Messi retires he will be part of the Barcelona family. For now, it's better for Barcelona to think about the condition of the team and make improvements so that everything returns to stability than having to talk about Messi.

[Razmirraz]

Messi always gets space in Barcelona, ​​as long as he is still active as a football player, Barcelona will always leave one place for Messi in his squad. Messi has also got a special place in the hearts of Barcelona fans, Messi's arrival to Barcelona has always been awaited by all his loyal fans in Barcelona, ​​but not this season. Barcelona had to wait for Messi partnership with PSG to end to bring him back to Camp Nou.

In Spanish we say that second parts were never good. I think it is in English said as second acts are never a good thing.

In Messi's case, I don't think his hypothetical return to Barça would be a good thing, as he is 35 years old and the fans remember him in his heyday. If he were to return, he would not leave better memories to the fans than in his first stage.

What Barcelona's board is doing is trying to create hope, even if it means risking their financial future, and so far they are doing it well. We will see how his bet turns out.

Obviously it will feel different in the second part because the age factor makes Messi performance not like the first part. The presence of Messi in the Barcelona squad is only as a complement and encourages the mentality of players to always look excellent. His position will also change on the second occasion, he is more suitable to play as a liaison between midfield and attackers. Besides being known as a player who is good at scoring goals, Messi is also very good at sending breakthrough passes that can help strikers to score goals. I think Messi needs to go back to Barcelona for the rest of his career and retire there, he started his career with Barcelona and ended his career at Barcelona.

[boltz]

Messi always gets space in Barcelona, ​​as long as he is still active as a football player, Barcelona will always leave one place for Messi in his squad. Messi has also got a special place in the hearts of Barcelona fans, Messi's arrival to Barcelona has always been awaited by all his loyal fans in Barcelona, ​​but not this season. Barcelona had to wait for Messi partnership with PSG to end to bring him back to Camp Nou.

In Spanish we say that second parts were never good. I think it is in English said as second acts are never a good thing.

In Messi's case, I don't think his hypothetical return to Barça would be a good thing, as he is 35 years old and the fans remember him in his heyday. If he were to return, he would not leave better memories to the fans than in his first stage.

What Barcelona's board is doing is trying to create hope, even if it means risking their financial future, and so far they are doing it well. We will see how his bet turns out.

Maybe he can return to Barca in his last year of football ? I think everyone would want that but everyone should be aware that Messi will have most likely 37 years and he will go to Barca just to retire there as he always said he wants to so fans should not expect the Messi who will comeback and win everything again as age gets us all. For me , I would like to see Messi retire in his Barca shirt but I also have a feeling that he can retire in MLS where most likely will face CR7 in the next years as there are rumors that we are heading into MLS with both Messi and Ronaldo in about 4 years from now.

[Alanaz]

If indeed this will happen. Messi, Lewandowski, Raphinha and Auba. Sounds like the avenger club but don't they think about the salary?
Sounds cliché but we still know that their main problem is still rooted in salary which could throw them upside down.
Indeed, in this case, it would be great if they could still be realistic and not push too hard.

Messi is back?
If that could happen of course barcelona would be the perfect club but I think it will be difficult for Xavi to arrange 3 great strikers in their front line later, because admitting it or not for sure these three players have the ego to be special or want to stay in the barcelona front line, I think the salary issue will indeed be a bit of a problem because Barcelona financial condition is unstable, but of course before Barcelona and the player sign a contract, there will be a mutual agreement regarding the amount of salary that will be received.

As I said before this will sound good if you just look at the performance but the problem is they will not be able to do something like this especially with their financial condition.
They just insist as if nothing will happen when they say things like this but it is certain that if this really happens then the impact will not be dammed by their financial condition.

[bittick]

I have mixed feelings about the possible return of Messi for Barcelona. The reason why I'm not very certain of this is that Xavi has been rebuilding the team for a long time. In his new game plan we don't see any player who is the main focus. Messi was exactly like this before he signed for PSG. Their last moments with Messi were still problematic even though Messi was performing wonderfully. Barcelona needed some change in the team and Xavi is doing it now. I think that Barcelona should continue with this system without Messi for one more season at least to see what will happen.

Xavi is building a new team, but no matter how you build the team, there is always room for Messi, right? You always want that on your team, even if you are working with a new team. However, it should not be the case that you build a team to serve Messi, Messi must then function well as a player just like any other player. I think everyone really wants Messi to return to Barcelona.

At this point in time,I don't think Messi will want to go to Barcelona again,I am aware of the fact that Messi is a Barcelona fan,and will still remain a fan but I just don't think he will want to come back to Barca now.He must Atleast try to win the champions league trophy with another club,before he will go back to Barcelona,because I know he will want to hang his boot their as a legend.

Messi will also think various factor, it's not only about barcelona was his best club but he needs to determine his future with the team. If he was coming back but barcelona can't afford to pay his salary and what's the difference? i see no different about that. Stay at PSG with a good future is also the best thing rather than try to follow his ego. He was also playing football for money not only caused by he was fan to the club

[KTChampions]

Barcelona are out of control  In parallel with the mass signings of players, a scandal develops with De Jong, who refuses to take a pay cut. They increase the pressure on him, but so far he does not give in. And I hope he doesn't give up, because why the hell is the club actually asking him for money to immediately spend it on new players? This is complete nonsense.

Things in Barcelona are very strange. Their finance is very bad and they treat to their legendary players very bad Messi ie. De Jong is not their legendary player but his contribution is big enough. They try to continue the drama of De Jong and at the same time signing contract with some players.

They just get 400M from television rights and are trying to spend it carelessly. A few bad seasons will put Barcelona into another crisis in finance.

As someone correctly wrote, Barcelona went all-in. If that spending doesn't lead to some super success like a La Liga title and reaching the Champions League final, things could end in disaster. I don't understand the motives for risking so much - after all last season Barcelona got the second place, why not settle for it for a few years and put the financial affairs in order? It would have been a smart decision from a business point of view, but the ambitions of the management have completely diverged from the real possibilities of the club.

[Jody.Drummer]

Actually I still feel weird when I hear that Barcelona want to bring Messi home. It doesn't mean I forbid Barcelona to do that, but they have to adapt to the current state of the team. They have cut the salaries of some players, and most recently they will cut Frenkie de Jong's salary. Isn't it selfish when it's a wish they have to achieve, but it hurts the other players on the team?

[Velvet78]

Now Atletico Madrid president is said to have stated that he doesn't even know where these rumours linking Ronaldo to Atletico Madrid have come from. Then the whole rumours about this probable deal have been no more than lies. We can't say that they want to finish the deal secretly by making this kind of statements. Because there is like no team after him in the end. Ronaldo might be feeling disappointed after this news but he shouldn't. The Premier League is starting very soon and he should focus on his work again.

[BuNga_cute]

There is an interesting situation right now. I have heard that Chelsea are preventing Barcelona from signing Marcos Alonso and Cesar Azpilicueta both. Because Barcelona also are going for Jules Kounde now. If Barcelona sign Kounde it looks like they will need to find new targets for left-back and right-back positions. Chelsea have been really unlucky with Barcelona so far. Barcelona can sign Kounde and cause Chelsea to be disappointed and frustrated again.

By what means did Chelsea prevent Barcelona from signing Marcos Alonso and Cesar Azpilicueta both? It seems even more intense the hunt for new players for every club at this point if any club makes a precaution like you say. In addition, Chelsea have also agreed with the Kounde price set by Sevilla. Then will Chelsea fail to get Kounde when Chelsea know that Barcelona are also after Kounde?

The current situation is just very interesting. There are various sources that one of them is claiming that Chelsea are about to sign him while the other sources are telling us that Barcelona have got ahead of Chelsea in this deal. Even Chelsea started to look for other alternatives after the ambiguity of this transfer which is a good thing they do. Because it looks like Chelsea still want to sign a defender for the starting eleven right beside Koulibaly even though they have many defenders in the team already.

Barcelona and Chelsea's competition to get Jules Kounde is very interesting, because these two teams had previously competed for Raphinha,
but in the end Raphinha chose Barcelona over Chelsea. Then many media reported that it was likely that Barcelona would get Kounde. If it's true
that Barcelona won the competition again, looks like Chelsea is no longer the star player's favorite destination.

Although it is not yet official for Kounde to move to Barcelona, the percentage of Barcelona's success in getting Kounde is quite large. Because from
some of the news I read, Kounde still wants to play in La Liga, so Kounde reportedly turned down an offer from Chelsea. Let's just wait for the official
news regarding the certainty of Jules Kounde's future. What is certain is that Chelsea has moved to target other defenders to prepare if it is certain
that they fail to get Kounde. After Chelsea eyeing Presnel Kimpembe, then there are rumors circulating that Chelsea are also trying to bring in
Wesley Fofana from Leicester.

[OcTradism]

As someone correctly wrote, Barcelona went all-in. If that spending doesn't lead to some super success like a La Liga title and reaching the Champions League final, things could end in disaster. I don't understand the motives for risking so much - after all last season Barcelona got the second place, why not settle for it for a few years and put the financial affairs in order? It would have been a smart decision from a business point of view, but the ambitions of the management have completely diverged from the real possibilities of the club.

All-in is a terrible management and Barcelona is repeating it again. Are they too big to impossible collapse and bankrupted? In La Liga, clubs over spent in the past like Deportivo La Coruna, Valencia and Athletico Madrid got troubles in the past. Deportivo is the worst case as until now, they can not come back to the top and mostly disappear from Spain football leagues.

otxThe performance of Barcelona in the past season and in this summer friendly matches are good and promising but it does not guarantee anything.

[Distraction]

Maybe Barcelona are having a great transfer window now but they really have spent incredible amount of money already. They still don't want to make do with these transfers and they are going for Jules Kounde also. Maybe it is like a dream for Barcelona but it is time to wake up from it. Otherwise their finance is going to get even more terrible until the end of the season. They don't make long-term plans now as it seems. Because the total salary load is increasing on one hand also.