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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
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July 13, 2023, 03:45:01 PM
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Barcelona have completed Vitor Roque signing finally for a 40 million euros transfer fee. He is only an 18-year-old centre-forward right now. He must be seen as a wonderkid that Barcelona allocated the money they can spend this summer for him mostly. However this transfer won't happen now. The deal is going to be completed officially and he will join the team by July 2024.

It is similar to what Real Madrid did for Endrick from Palmeiras. Not exactly the same though because Real Madrid have no choice other than waiting for him due to age issue in his country. These are all investments into their futures and I wonder which one of these players will develop more.


He did very well to take him, he's young, he can grow a lot as long as he lets him play
If he took him to keep him on the bench he did a huge bullshit, might as well buy him and lend him making him play and improve
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This is an investment for the future, a player with enormous potential but also quite risky because nothing guarantees the performance of a player, especially for a young player who is expected to become a mega star in the future, we have seen several examples of failures in the past. happens in the world of football but apart from that if this is successful it will be very profitable for the team.
I think the steps taken by Barcelona are very correct, they are currently working on a long term project and are also focused on next season which is quite mature and in my opinion it is quite good between the processes and also the focus for next season.

Victor Roque is a young player and he is still 18 years old, he can be sure that he will join Barcelona on June 1, 2024. If I'm not mistaken, Victor Roque will come in the winter transfer market. this player, has become the target of several big clubs. he too, has a pretty good track record at such a young age. very natural, if there are many clubs after him. that's why, Barcelona is trying to fence off this young player. because, they have enough competition to get his services.
I think there's nothing wrong with investing in a young player and hoping he will become a star player. although, there are no guarantees and quite risky as you say. and yes, we have seen some examples of failed youth players. but that doesn't mean Barcelona is that pessimistic and doesn't think about all the risks. at least, they have monitored and screened it and whether it is worth the price tag agreed upon.

After all, IMO, he won't immediately become a core player when he joins Barcelona. he will need adjustments and maybe Xavi will start Victor Roque towards the end, ideally with 10 or 15 minutes left. also, if he has big potential, this player will be a supersub. yep, we'll find out after he joins Barcelona in 2024. after all, Barcelona cannot just always expect Lewandowski. So, we agree that the project that Barcelona has undertaken is the right step.

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July 13, 2023, 04:03:37 PM
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Real Madrid are always the best at finding young talented players. Real Madrid don't go after buying good players they go after making good players ie Real Madrid are star makers.  All of the talented young players Real Madrid have signed so far have been successful signings for Real Madrid.
On this, I disagree with you; contrary to what you say, Real Madrid does not produce stars. What I understand from the term "star maker" is that talented young players are nurtured from their academy days on and promoted into the senior team where they ultimately become stars in the future. This is in contrast to Real Madrid who only look to sign young, talented players from other clubs, as they did with Cristiano Ronaldo, Mesut Ozil, and others. Before being acquired by Madrid, Bellingham and Camavinga were shining for their respective teams. Mbappe is another young player who has excelled from the start and has consistently led Ligue 1 in goals scored.

Real Madrid don’t have so much believe for their academy players and that is why they always look elsewhere to buy promising youngsters.

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July 13, 2023, 04:42:18 PM
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It is similar to what Real Madrid did for Endrick from Palmeiras. Not exactly the same though because Real Madrid have no choice other than waiting for him due to age issue in his country. These are all investments into their futures and I wonder which one of these players will develop more.
Real Madrid are always the best at finding young talented players. Real Madrid don't go after buying good players they go after making good players ie Real Madrid are star makers.  All of the talented young players Real Madrid have signed so far have been successful signings for Real Madrid.

Endrick is another surprise name for Real Madrid because Real Madrid has already signed a contract with this talented player from Brazil. Maybe this talented player will join the Real Madrid camp from 2024. Endrick will be a successful striker for Real Madrid.
Real Madrid is indeed a club that has always succeeded in producing star players. Because this club has an acumen in seeing the potential of the young players they recruit. Even in this season's transfer market, Real Madrid managed to win the competition in the race for a young player from Turkey, namely Arda Guler. Arda Guler is also an extraordinary young player who looks like he will become another football star that Real Madrid will score. Even this young player, he said, would immediately join Real Madrid in the coming season. Although the issue is that Arda Guler will join next season. but based on Real Madrid's official statement, it turns out that Arda Guler will join this season. and will earn a six season contract at Real Madrid. Arda Guler and Endrick are the hope and the best investment that Real Madrid is currently making.

This is what we knew from several clubs that they are able to recruit top players from their own youth academies, but I think that in the last few years or maybe last 10 - 15 years many of the soccer clubs changed their approach and reverted to using more money to buy the highest potential talents at the youngest age possible. They then neglected the facilitation of their youth centers and the result is that the potential pools from which they were able to once recruit players got significantly smaller. Real Madrid isn't the only club who has that problem. In my opinion it would make sense to finally put more money into youth teams again and give them a chance to train with the first teams.
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July 13, 2023, 04:56:36 PM
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It is similar to what Real Madrid did for Endrick from Palmeiras. Not exactly the same though because Real Madrid have no choice other than waiting for him due to age issue in his country. These are all investments into their futures and I wonder which one of these players will develop more.
Real Madrid are always the best at finding young talented players. Real Madrid don't go after buying good players they go after making good players ie Real Madrid are star makers.  All of the talented young players Real Madrid have signed so far have been successful signings for Real Madrid.

Endrick is another surprise name for Real Madrid because Real Madrid has already signed a contract with this talented player from Brazil. Maybe this talented player will join the Real Madrid camp from 2024. Endrick will be a successful striker for Real Madrid.
Real Madrid is indeed a club that has always succeeded in producing star players. Because this club has an acumen in seeing the potential of the young players they recruit. Even in this season's transfer market, Real Madrid managed to win the competition in the race for a young player from Turkey, namely Arda Guler. Arda Guler is also an extraordinary young player who looks like he will become another football star that Real Madrid will score. Even this young player, he said, would immediately join Real Madrid in the coming season. Although the issue is that Arda Guler will join next season. but based on Real Madrid's official statement, it turns out that Arda Guler will join this season. and will earn a six season contract at Real Madrid. Arda Guler and Endrick are the hope and the best investment that Real Madrid is currently making.
The two players that Real Madrid have invested in five years from now will see how they turn these two players into players and how much money Real Madrid makes from these two players. Real Madrid wouldn't be wrong to do this business because they first find young talented players and invest money in them and develop them into a good enough player, then when another club in Europe shows interest in taking those players at a much higher price, Real Madrid selling those talented players at a much higher price that's why they're so financially strong. They will first convert Arda Guler and Endrick into the best players and then sell these two players for a very high price.

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July 13, 2023, 05:01:21 PM
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also don't forget that Mbappe is a businessman as well. He is as much a businessman as he is a soccer player because when he announces that he will not extend his contract with PSG, the intention is to signal to all interested clubs to now join the competition to bid for him. At the same time he is raising the pressure for PSG bosses as well as they know this is the only moment to make some money selling him. Mbappe made that statement publicly only out of self-interest, not because he wanted to respectfully let everyone know about his future plans . Wink Mbappe is quite greedy.
That is the one quality he has that not many players had before him. I mean he cares about money A LOT, of course we all care about it, we all want more money, but he cares about it so much that he literally makes his decisions based on the optimum amount of money he could make on the long term. This is why I believe that his transfer is not happening at this moment, he is still owed a lot by PSG and if he leaves then he leaves money on the table by accepting to go to Madrid.

We need to accept the fact that he will stay another season, and by January or so sign a prelim. contract with Madrid, and then by July first next season he will be there for free. That's just how it will be, there is no way avoiding that at this moment.
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July 13, 2023, 05:47:54 PM
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Real Madrid is indeed a club that has always succeeded in producing star players. Because this club has an acumen in seeing the potential of the young players they recruit. Even in this season's transfer market, Real Madrid managed to win the competition in the race for a young player from Turkey, namely Arda Guler. Arda Guler is also an extraordinary young player who looks like he will become another football star that Real Madrid will score. Even this young player, he said, would immediately join Real Madrid in the coming season. Although the issue is that Arda Guler will join next season. but based on Real Madrid's official statement, it turns out that Arda Guler will join this season. and will earn a six season contract at Real Madrid. Arda Guler and Endrick are the hope and the best investment that Real Madrid is currently making.
Yes, there are rumors that Real Madrid will lend Arda Guler back to Fenerbache for one year after it was officially introduced. But Guler has made his commitment during the interview session that he is ready to compete with the senior players in Madrid's main squad. We also know that Modric and Kroos will be very difficult to move and of course Ancelotti will play a rotating option to play Guler. Guler's existence is a good investment for Madrid because he is still very young and has the potential to become a successor to Kroos or Modric in the midfield sector.

Madrid's entry into the hunt for Guler's signature made Barcelona's management resign and said they did not want a price war to occur, thus diverting their target. Currently, Barcelona have recruited another young player from Brazil namely Vitor Roque and will join next season it seems. If it doesn't violate La Liga regulations Vitor Roque could have joined Barcelona's squad more quickly.

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July 13, 2023, 05:53:11 PM
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Talking about Mbappe and Madrid is like a tug of war because indeed seeing from the current conditions, even Madrid must want this player but they are still hindered by prestige, especially before they were also shamefully rejected.
Yes, for some reason, both Real Madrid and Mbappe themselves have always shown interest in each other for Mbappe to Real Madrid. However, as we have seen in previous seasons, in the end, Mbappe still stayed at PSG for several reasons. I do not know whether this season he will actually move to Real Madrid or not. PSG itself seems to be playing with this condition. This is probably a happy situation for them.
Now actually it could be something interesting to see continue because speaking of opportunities it could be a good opportunity for Madrid. But I think they are quite smart in this, they don't want to be too exposed to the media because they realise that if they go deeper then it won't be too good if it doesn't come back like last season.
They're more passive at the moment but they're always at the forefront and I quite like what Madrid are doing at the moment.

It is similar to what Real Madrid did for Endrick from Palmeiras. Not exactly the same though because Real Madrid have no choice other than waiting for him due to age issue in his country. These are all investments into their futures and I wonder which one of these players will develop more.
Real Madrid are always the best at finding young talented players. Real Madrid don't go after buying good players they go after making good players ie Real Madrid are star makers.  All of the talented young players Real Madrid have signed so far have been successful signings for Real Madrid.

Endrick is another surprise name for Real Madrid because Real Madrid has already signed a contract with this talented player from Brazil. Maybe this talented player will join the Real Madrid camp from 2024. Endrick will be a successful striker for Real Madrid.
Real Madrid is indeed a club that has always succeeded in producing star players. Because this club has an acumen in seeing the potential of the young players they recruit. Even in this season's transfer market, Real Madrid managed to win the competition in the race for a young player from Turkey, namely Arda Guler. Arda Guler is also an extraordinary young player who looks like he will become another football star that Real Madrid will score. Even this young player, he said, would immediately join Real Madrid in the coming season. Although the issue is that Arda Guler will join next season. but based on Real Madrid's official statement, it turns out that Arda Guler will join this season. and will earn a six season contract at Real Madrid. Arda Guler and Endrick are the hope and the best investment that Real Madrid is currently making.
Actually for things like this, seeing from what Madrid has always done, they are actually always looking for young players who can be said to be wonderkids and that is their approach that has been carried out for years but seeing from other conditions it is not only like that they do because there are several castilla academies that can also be said to be quite successful, for example, maybe Nacho or Carvajal who are now still there and are one of the reserve players at Madrid.
Or some other players who still exist like Morata even though he is now at a rival.

But when talking about academy players I actually a few years earlier still preferred Barcelona with its La Masia but now somehow Barcelona also seems to evaporate for their young players and as if their philosophy has changed in the last few seasons.

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July 13, 2023, 05:57:28 PM
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Real Madrid are always the best at finding young talented players. Real Madrid don't go after buying good players they go after making good players ie Real Madrid are star makers.  All of the talented young players Real Madrid have signed so far have been successful signings for Real Madrid.
On this, I disagree with you; contrary to what you say, Real Madrid does not produce stars. What I understand from the term "star maker" is that talented young players are nurtured from their academy days on and promoted into the senior team where they ultimately become stars in the future. This is in contrast to Real Madrid who only look to sign young, talented players from other clubs, as they did with Cristiano Ronaldo, Mesut Ozil, and others. Before being acquired by Madrid, Bellingham and Camavinga were shining for their respective teams. Mbappe is another young player who has excelled from the start and has consistently led Ligue 1 in goals scored.

Real Madrid don’t have so much believe for their academy players and that is why they always look elsewhere to buy promising youngsters.

That's also true, but so far it seems like every club is also at least doing the same. Because after all, sometimes or maybe most of the young players or academy players who are promoted to play for the senior team too, it looks like they will do better or shine when they play or are loaned to other clubs. With such a pattern, it seems that it is indeed difficult for young players from the academy to continue to shine at the same club throughout the season. Indeed, maybe only a few young players can continue to play well from the academy to the senior team, but I believe this is very rare because most clubs will also loan him to other clubs in order to give him more playing minutes.

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July 13, 2023, 06:11:12 PM
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Vitor Roque is quite popular recently. I see his transfer news to Barcelona like everywhere. I didn't know about him much until Barcelona signed him. They paid 40 million euros for the fee and who knows maybe this can turn into a very advantageous deal for Barcelona in the future. If he is really that much talented of course.

The guy is only 18 years old now but he will be 19 until joining Barcelona officially by next summer. Barcelona are actually on a new project like building a brand new team with youngsters. Roque can be an important part of this project if he works hard. He really loves this team seemingly so I guess he would like to leave a good impression on everyone.

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July 13, 2023, 06:56:53 PM
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That is one aspect to mention here, but also don't forget that Mbappe is a businessman as well. He is as much a businessman as he is a soccer player because when he announces that he will not extend his contract with PSG, the intention is to signal to all interested clubs to now join the competition to bid for him. At the same time he is raising the pressure for PSG bosses as well as they know this is the only moment to make some money selling him. Mbappe made that statement publicly only out of self-interest, not because he wanted to respectfully let everyone know about his future plans . Wink Mbappe is quite greedy.
It's only natural that a player might confirm that he's leaving his current club and that was when he was offered a contract extension by Paris Saint Germain.
Mbappe's greed is visible from before, but it is a fact that a high offer and a privileged position made him choose to be in the Paris Saint Germain squad. But in the end it made him uncomfortable to be here at all, because inevitably the pressure must be there. Plus, Mbappe's selfishness is still so big that it backfired on him.

Now he has to live with it, and I consider it a punishment for his sometimes childish attitude. He must be able to change and sensitize his attitude that is detrimental to himself.


Yes although it is hard to use the term "backfired". It is right what you say but when someone earned more than 500 million by the age of 25, backfired is maybe not the perfect to describe what Mbappe is going through. Cheesy He is driven by greed or maybe it is mother because if I recall correctly it is his mother who is also managing him and who is responsible for the financial issues. I wonder what her reaction would have been if he said he prefers legacy over cash and wants to go to Real Madrid three years ago. But he is grown up so he made the final decision to waste part of his career in France.

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Why would we consider making money greed? I do not get it, if he can make more money somewhere else, then he should be able to leave, or if he wants to leave just because he is not happy where he is, then he should be able to leave. Think about it, if your current job treated you terribly, would you not want to leave as well? Or if your current work was filled with stress all the time then wouldn't you want to leave? I feel like its very understandable to want to leave, its just the regular stuff and nothing weird or greedy about this. He made his money but he also played there, and was their best player for many years, what they paid him for, was exactly this. Its not his responsibility that they didn't won any UCL, how could just one single player win it? So if the management couldn't fill the team with UCL winner level players and manager, then its their problem. He is only entitled to play for the money he got, and he did play, so its not greed to want to leave if you ask me.

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July 13, 2023, 07:34:27 PM
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Indeed, maybe only a few young players can continue to play well from the academy to the senior team, but I believe this is very rare because most clubs will also loan him to other clubs in order to give him more playing minutes.

What you think most teams rarely do is basically done quite often by Barcelona. Real Madrid tend to buy top players because they are not very confident when playing with academy players, whereas Barcelona always has several academy players who become top players in the first team and win titles. Barcelona also loan their academy players to other teams or maybe sell them, but they have always had some academy players in the main squad even now.

Barcelona is even known to be successful with its academy players, but Real Madrid is successful with non-academy players. These two teams are different, even from the way they orbit the future Spanish superstar within their team.

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July 13, 2023, 07:39:37 PM
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Vitor Roque is quite popular recently. I see his transfer news to Barcelona like everywhere. I didn't know about him much until Barcelona signed him. They paid 40 million euros for the fee and who knows maybe this can turn into a very advantageous deal for Barcelona in the future. If he is really that much talented of course.

The guy is only 18 years old now but he will be 19 until joining Barcelona officially by next summer. Barcelona are actually on a new project like building a brand new team with youngsters. Roque can be an important part of this project if he works hard. He really loves this team seemingly so I guess he would like to leave a good impression on everyone.

This is a good signing for Barcelona who are following the footsteps of Real Madrid in getting gems and talents from the Brazilian league. The 18 year old will get the opportunity to improve and be a world beater in Barcelona. With Vinicius and Rodrigo hitting it big in Real Madrid, Vitor Roque has role models to imitate and surpass.
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July 13, 2023, 08:19:13 PM
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Indeed, maybe only a few young players can continue to play well from the academy to the senior team, but I believe this is very rare because most clubs will also loan him to other clubs in order to give him more playing minutes.

What you think most teams rarely do is basically done quite often by Barcelona. Real Madrid tend to buy top players because they are not very confident when playing with academy players, whereas Barcelona always has several academy players who become top players in the first team and win titles. Barcelona also loan their academy players to other teams or maybe sell them, but they have always had some academy players in the main squad even now.

Barcelona is even known to be successful with its academy players, but Real Madrid is successful with non-academy players. These two teams are different, even from the way they orbit the future Spanish superstar within their team.
I do not agree with what you say.
Look at this time Real Madrid even buy young players from other clubs like Arda Guller who was contracted by Real Madrid from Turkey and I think Real Madrid is getting players from academics that are different from what you think.
Real Madrid doesn't always buy popular players but also recruits young players from other academics.
Next season will be a testament to Real Madrid's success with young players just signed.

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Well, the truth is that Mbappé missed being at Real Madrid because he believed in all the promises that a sheikh could have made him, it's not bad, money can be a great factor to consider, even though he is a very young player He should also consider getting rich and having a full life in his old age, however, he closed his posts in Madrid and it is known that when a player says No to Madrid, that condemns him, no matter how much the Club needs to have a A player of his level will not hire him, because for Madrid no player is above the club, and that is something that Florentino Pérez has made known to the whole world, and it seems to me that it is not bad.


No way that Mbappe is not of any interest to Real Madrid anymore. Even though Perez implied in his wording back then that he is literally pissed off about the decision Mbappe made, I still think that he wants him in the Real Madrid team. It doesn't matter what Mbappe said, but everyone knows that he is the best player on earth right now. On a very good day Mbappe eliminates world class teams on his own. Haaland is also an exceptional player because he is so deadly and doesn't need a lot of chances, but it is still kind of more impressive to watch Mbappe accelerate with his speed, control the ball perfectly while also navigating smartly on the field and then strike as if it was a penalty. There aren't players like him these days and Perez is aware of that. 

Well, unlike you, I think the best player in the world right now is Messi, and he showed that in Qatar, and where a standard as high as Messi or CR7 did not exist, I think Mbappé alone is much better for me. Better Haaland than Mbappé, well in my opinion, for everything that the Viking has achieved, I see it that way.

I know that there are many who like Mbappé's style, but as I have said, Mbappé said no to Madrid once already, I don't think Florentino Pérez will make an exception with him, also time passes and his price will already have gone down It seems absurd to me that some media say that Mbappé is not going to go to Madrid because they were asking a lot of money for him. Madrid would not have cared about the price if they had wanted it, so personally I think that he is not suitable for Madrid.

It is similar to what Real Madrid did for Endrick from Palmeiras. Not exactly the same though because Real Madrid have no choice other than waiting for him due to age issue in his country. These are all investments into their futures and I wonder which one of these players will develop more.
Real Madrid are always the best at finding young talented players. Real Madrid don't go after buying good players they go after making good players ie Real Madrid are star makers.  All of the talented young players Real Madrid have signed so far have been successful signings for Real Madrid.

Endrick is another surprise name for Real Madrid because Real Madrid has already signed a contract with this talented player from Brazil. Maybe this talented player will join the Real Madrid camp from 2024. Endrick will be a successful striker for Real Madrid.
Real Madrid is indeed a club that has always succeeded in producing star players. Because this club has an acumen in seeing the potential of the young players they recruit. Even in this season's transfer market, Real Madrid managed to win the competition in the race for a young player from Turkey, namely Arda Guler. Arda Guler is also an extraordinary young player who looks like he will become another football star that Real Madrid will score. Even this young player, he said, would immediately join Real Madrid in the coming season. Although the issue is that Arda Guler will join next season. but based on Real Madrid's official statement, it turns out that Arda Guler will join this season. and will earn a six season contract at Real Madrid. Arda Guler and Endrick are the hope and the best investment that Real Madrid is currently making.

What you say is very correct, personally I think that when we are going to direct ourselves as fans of a team like Madrid, in addition, we already know how the club works, it looks for promising players and youngsters, they train them with their quality so that they can contribute to the team, they give them fame, good money, with the condition that they solve and can do a great job, that is basically what they are dedicated to doing, on the other hand, the Turkish player is a great acquisition, because some say that Why didn't they buy Mbappé? It's easy, Mbappé is not so young anymore, he already lost his opportunity to join the white club, it is the case of Kane, he is a very good player, a veteran and he knows that things can happen when and how he wants, but age is a determining factor.

Everyone still hasn't understood that Madrid likes to hire players who are like the Turk, some have the hope that they can hire Mbappé for the next season, but I sincerely strongly doubt it, as I said before, I see Mbappé at Arsenal or Liverpool, but at Madrid his opportunity has already passed and he wasted it.

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July 13, 2023, 09:43:57 PM
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Real Madrid is indeed a club that has always succeeded in producing star players. Because this club has an acumen in seeing the potential of the young players they recruit. Even in this season's transfer market, Real Madrid managed to win the competition in the race for a young player from Turkey, namely Arda Guler.
They are often like that. That's why they sometimes buy very young players every season at quite high prices in between. Then he entered the Real Madrid club academy to prepare him to enter the main club when he was ready. This has happened several times and has been quite successful so far. But indeed this season, they may have prepared for it, but after the departure of Benzema, they are still lacking talented forwards. they need more than just good players, because they need very extraordinary players.


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No way that Mbappe is not of any interest to Real Madrid anymore. Even though Perez implied in his wording back then that he is literally pissed off about the decision Mbappe made, I still think that he wants him in the Real Madrid team. It doesn't matter what Mbappe said, but everyone knows that he is the best player on earth right now. On a very good day Mbappe eliminates world class teams on his own. Haaland is also an exceptional player because he is so deadly and doesn't need a lot of chances, but it is still kind of more impressive to watch Mbappe accelerate with his speed, control the ball perfectly while also navigating smartly on the field and then strike as if it was a penalty. There aren't players like him these days and Perez is aware of that. 

Well, unlike you, I think the best player in the world right now is Messi, and he showed that in Qatar, and where a standard as high as Messi or CR7 did not exist, I think Mbappé alone is much better for me. Better Haaland than Mbappé, well in my opinion, for everything that the Viking has achieved, I see it that way.

I know that there are many who like Mbappé's style, but as I have said, Mbappé said no to Madrid once already, I don't think Florentino Pérez will make an exception with him, also time passes and his price will already have gone down It seems absurd to me that some media say that Mbappé is not going to go to Madrid because they were asking a lot of money for him. Madrid would not have cared about the price if they had wanted it, so personally I think that he is not suitable for Madrid.


You are 100% wrong about my personal best player in the world ranking. Wink For me it is Messi as well. I think everyone who understands the sport well and knows what certain moves in a game mean or what their effects are on the game as a whole, would also say that Messi is the best. There is no player in the world who can read the game like Messi and who can interpret game situations and capitalize on anticipated situations as much as Messi.

But my talk about Mbappe is more referring to the fact that Messi's time now came to an end in Europe. I would have loved to see him play in Europe for a few years. In my opinion Messi is even another level than Ronaldo. I am not sure who said this, but someone in an interview said that Ronaldo is the best on the planet, and Messi is an alien. I like that comparison. Wink

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July 13, 2023, 09:53:12 PM
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What you think most teams rarely do is basically done quite often by Barcelona. Real Madrid tend to buy top players because they are not very confident when playing with academy players, whereas Barcelona always has several academy players who become top players in the first team and win titles. Barcelona also loan their academy players to other teams or maybe sell them, but they have always had some academy players in the main squad even now.

Barcelona is even known to be successful with its academy players, but Real Madrid is successful with non-academy players. These two teams are different, even from the way they orbit the future Spanish superstar within their team.
What makes an academy better than the other is the selectivity and the professionalism of the recruiters. I mean you can accept many players, select the best and see how things are going with them or actively search for these future players and talents everywhere to include them with the team. It is the role of the management to improve the academy.

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July 13, 2023, 09:55:29 PM
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... I still think that he wants him in the Real Madrid team. It doesn't matter what Mbappe said, but everyone knows that he is the best player on earth right now. On a very good day Mbappe eliminates world class teams on his own...  

I don't think he's the best in the world, currently, that is, the best player just for footballing qualities is not enough, international titles and championships are needed, hence that leaves him in the top 10.

Now, if Mbappe has something, it's that he's a player with attitude and he hasn't let himself be "groped" so easily by Real Madrid.

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July 13, 2023, 09:59:47 PM
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Florentino Pérez said they plan to sign Mbappe for the next season. But considering the current situation of Mbappe, I assume Pérez may try to sign him now. Moreover, Real Madrid still has no a top striker, they only signed Joselu. I think Joselu isn't enough to compete for UCL title.
Indeed, after the departure of Benzema, they still do not have a replacement that is at least equal. And with Mbappe, this would be an extraordinary thing, but it's still wishful thinking at this time, because it's still just rumours. But indeed, the rumors in the current transfer market are stronger than before. If previously PSG could make such an attractive offer for Mbappe, this season might be different again. But, will Mbappe return to how he used to be, pressing his desire to go to Real Madrid and stay at PSG for certain reasons and offers.

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