Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia.

[deisik]

According to Interfax, the rebels that attacked a tank base near Artyomosk last night got hold of 221 tanks, 288 APCs, 12 SPGs, 18 launch vehicles (Grad), 183 MICVs and 12 mine-throwers...

This is enough to equip an army!

[247crypto]

This is a normal town when the red army is involved:

I see, You have no idea about civil war in Chechnya with salafi and sufi chechens.

[bryant.coleman]

two russian TV correspondents killed

Feels bad. Igor Kornelyuk was such a fearless journalist, having served in conflict locations such as South Ossetia, Chechnya and Transdniestria. He was an ethnic Ukrainian, born and raised in Ukraine. Perhaps that was the reason why VGTRK sent him to Ukraine. RIP young man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4dGfn1vzbY

[deisik]

This is a normal town when the red army is involved:

The two Chechen wars had been a harsh test and bitter lesson (especially the first war) for the new Russian army, the results we saw in Georgia in 2008 and now in Crimea...

[bryant.coleman]

The new face of Donetsk People's Republic, Igor Girkin. And similarities are being made with the movie, 300: Rise of an Empire. 

[bitsmichel]

This is a normal town when the red army is involved:

The two Chechen wars had been a harsh test and bitter lesson (especially the first war) for the new Russian army, the results we saw in Georgia in 2008 and now in Crimea...

First chechen war:
5,732 russians killed or missing. 161 killed outside Chechnya. Russia has ~ 140 million people, so ~ 0.004% of the population dead.
17,391 chechen killed or missing. 50,000–100,000 chechen civillians killed. Chechenya has around 1 million people. So around 5% or more of the population dead.
Source:  wikipedia

What do you mean by a bitter lesson, if not number of dead?

Btw, that building looks pretty solid. Even with a hole in it, it seems to be holding up - can't say the same about buildings like the twin towers.

[deisik]

The two Chechen wars had been a harsh test and bitter lesson (especially the first war) for the new Russian army, the results we saw in Georgia in 2008 and now in Crimea...

First chechen war:
5,732 russians killed or missing. 161 killed outside Chechnya. Russia has ~ 140 million people, so ~ 0.004% of the population dead.
17,391 chechen killed or missing. 50,000–100,000 chechen civillians killed. Chechenya has around 1 million people. So around 5% or more of the population dead.
Source:  wikipedia

What do you mean by a bitter lesson, if not number of dead?

Actually, the first war was won by Chechens (despite their losses), they got real independence from Russia. The Khasavyurt Accord that ended the First Chechen War was a humiliation for Russia and showed the inability of the authorities in Moscow to effectively deal with the ethnic problems on Caucasus. Now we see almost the same happening in Ukraine (though the Ukrainian powers were initially in a much simpler situation)...

[myshownow]

The two Chechen wars had been a harsh test and bitter lesson (especially the first war) for the new Russian army, the results we saw in Georgia in 2008 and now in Crimea...

First chechen war:
5,732 russians killed or missing. 161 killed outside Chechnya. Russia has ~ 140 million people, so ~ 0.004% of the population dead.
17,391 chechen killed or missing. 50,000–100,000 chechen civillians killed. Chechenya has around 1 million people. So around 5% or more of the population dead.
Source:  wikipedia

What do you mean by a bitter lesson, if not number of dead?

Actually, the first war was won by Chechens (despite their losses), they got real independence from Russia. The Khasavyurt Accord that ended the First Chechen War was a humiliation for Russia and showed the inability of the authorities in Moscow to effectively deal with the ethnic problems on Caucasus. Now we see almost the same happening in Ukraine (though the Ukrainian powers were initially in a much simpler situation)...

Actually, those events were long ago when Russia was demoralized after the stupidity of Gorbachev & Yeltsin. But  it is now a high-flying Russia and the country obviously has deep bench, it could produce a Putin & Russia is obviously now the future. Just look how classy Putin has been handling events right now. I am really becoming an avid fan of his foreplays.
The timing is almost ripe. The Russia-China backdrop dance is accelerating. China & Britain just had an anti-dollar agreement, it starts immediately & this speaks volumes: one of the pillars that is driving the current imperialist Anglo-American empire has just broken from the dollar monopoly. From 55% world patronage in 2001, 33% in 2013 (according to IMF), dollar is nearing its tipping plummet. That will undermine fatally the two main weapons for American imperialist aggression: financing its military & its propaganda media including its NGO's.
So we should look at the Ukraine drama with that as background, the steady collapse of the imperialist dollar & the growing irrelevance of American imperial pretensions. The scanty logistics is beginning to tell in the crashing Ukrainian economy itself which is sapping the country from within. I don't think Russia is really bothered by the sanctions, that was just one of the feints of Putin: I don't think he will let the down the Novorussians in the end. I don't think the Europeans will miss the point that the Ukraine crisis is their chance to break away from the clutches of American imperialism.
Putin will go down in history as liberator of Europe from American imperialism.
If the news that tanks were really captured in Artemyovsk, the climax will be revved up a notch shortly. I hope they go all the way to Kiev.

[bryant.coleman]

One 5 year old kid killed in Slavyansk.

Kiev’s army shelling kills 5yo boy & his mom in Slavyansk

http://rt.com/news/167276-slavyansk-shelling-child-died/

Some of the Slavyansk residents are refusing to evacuate. Tens of thousands remaining. 

[bitsmichel]

One 5 year old kid killed in Slavyansk.

Kiev’s army shelling kills 5yo boy & his mom in Slavyansk

http://rt.com/news/167276-slavyansk-shelling-child-died/

Some of the Slavyansk residents are refusing to evacuate. Tens of thousands remaining. 

In the video you can see the boy is still breathing (1:16), so he would have died after the recording. Very sad this political game is taking so many victims

[Morbid]

news update

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9df9B-HcKIA

[bryant.coleman]

Rumors in Twitter that Karachun has been over-run by the Donetsk People's Army. But a few hours ago Igor Girkin, who is commanding the Slavyansk self-defence denied the reports and said that Ukrainian army is still shelling Slavyansk from Karachun.

[Morbid]

interesting interview. worth watching:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVtpQSunec0

[deisik]

Utterly ironic, but almost one hundred Ukrainian frontier guards asked for refuge in Russia after they had been attacked by the pro-Russian rebels...

[bryant.coleman]

Families fleeing Slavyansk find refuge in Sevastopol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuLiup54Eak

Ground reports about the Semyonovka battle:

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1s27ek5

[247crypto]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvUz7nFS5Us

[247crypto]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxfKSN4OvuY

[hologram]

Putin will go down in history as liberator of Europe from American imperialism.

you seem to know how eastern europe love Russian after 50 years of communism  Where do you live ?

[bryant.coleman]

You seem to know how eastern europe love Russian after 50 years of communism   Where do you live ?

Parts of the Eastern Europe hates Russia, especially those living in Poland, Baltics and Romania. But Russians enjoy good support in countries such as Bulgaria, Serbia and Macedonia. These countries are also in Eastern Europe.

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More than 80 Ukrainian border guards crossed to Russia

http://en.itar-tass.com/world/737187

17 wounded Ukrainian soldiers being treated in Rostov Region

http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/737103

[hologram]

Parts of the Eastern Europe hates Russia, especially those living in Poland, Baltics and Romania. But Russians enjoy good support in countries such as Bulgaria, Serbia and Macedonia. These countries are also in Eastern Europe.

Bulgaria is in EU and NATO, Serbia and Macedonia will change there mind when they will see the wealth gap between the pro-EU ex-URSS country become bigger. I agree it will not happen if the Latin state like Portugal, Spain, France continue to ruin the UE. But Russia has already problem with the Kalilingrad people that are tired to be more poor than there neigbor.

And when EU state will stop listening stupid ecologist and start produce there own energy Russia will have even bigger difficulty. The only threat to Europe is to get rid of all this fucking debt.

And thanks to bitcoin in the future it will be more and more complex and costly to control all the move of your population like Russia and China want to do