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[thedreamer]

4 hrs after power up a second chip began hashing.

5.5 hrs after that a 3rd has come online.

What settings are you running? Someone else reported similar when starting voltage was too low, the chips would get stuck in a loop trying to initialise.

I got that too while experimenting with too low voltage. Something between the Max limit voltage and the 4 max PSU wattage limits.

[edgar]

i cant say as the GUI is failing to open.

but the settings are the same they have been since i lowered them, early this year.

nothing has changed, only the performance since restarting.

and now - 12+ hrs later, all 4 chips are hashing.

i did not touch/modify/alter anything.

meh

[notlist3d]

i cant say as the GUI is failing to open.

but the settings are the same they have been since i lowered them, early this year.

nothing has changed, only the performance since restarting.

and now - 12+ hrs later, all 4 chips are hashing.

i did not touch/modify/alter anything.

meh

Sounds like a interesting day or two.  Are you running them at twords top speed?  Or is it just a bad unit?

[edgar]

just another day...

already said a few times. lowered from OC to UC in january. (from 14xx to 12xx)

no, unless it went 'bad' in the 2 weeks it was switched off.

as i said, its now running as expected, but it took over 12 hours to 'ramp up' from 1 chip to 4.

if the GUI worked i'd post an img of settings...

fuckit - i'll power down & see what happens, the UI may come back.



E2A - 15 minutes later - only 2 chips & no UI...


i imagine they'll ramp up as and when they feel like it, fk knows whats wrong with the interface


2nd edit - 13 more minutes & 4 chips, no UI - tried SSHing through puTTy - Network error. Connection refused.

[alh]

So how is it that you know how many chips are hashing without the GUI? Are you making a calculation based on a pool side measurement or what?

It's really odd since the controller board that supports the GUI is the same one doing the interactions with the pool as well.

One wild idea: Have you tried a different computer to access the GUI, or perhaps a different browser (e.g. Chrome or Firefox instead of Internet Exploder)? I wonder if perhaps the problem lies at the browser end in some way. Just a crazy thought.

In what way can't you get to the GUI? Any chance you aren't using the correct IP address?maybe while the SP20 was off something else on your network took over it's old IP address, and it now has a new one?

Maybe you've already thought of all this stuff.

Please don't take my questions as instructions. They are out there to open up new lines of thinking you may not already have considered.

[alh]

Yet another crazy question: Did you have a static IP address on the SP20, or is it using DHCP? Any chance you have an UN-intentional overlap between your DHCP range and any static IP address devices, including tablets, media players, cell-phones? I know that with TCP, all hell breaks loose when you have two devices with the same IP address. It's ugly, mysterious, and very confusing. You could run an IP scan a few times and see what/who shows up, and if it's consistent from one scan to the next, and if makes sense.

I am wondering if some aspect of the surrounding networking environment changed while the SP20 was powered down, and now that it's back up, it's struggling in that regard.

[edgar]

no worries bro, i only get pissy at ppl who bring attitude, trying to convince me im lying, stupid or doing it wrong.

Everything you've said is well thought out.


pool details & watts used on the kill-a-watt  (now running at 12xx & 724watts, which i assume is all 4 hashing) - if i recall correctly, each chip is set at 165w


i havent tried accessing via another com, but i shall - before i post this. (done - see below)

but the sp30 is running fine and accessible, so im not sure what gives with the sp20

i did notice that when its set to use dhcp - it constantly wanted to use the same IP as my laptops (no idea why)

but i set it to .33 so it 'should' be there, advanced IP scanner shows it as there, but no joy with browser or putty.


OK - tested on other laptop, FF & Chrome - nothing - comes up with a blank screen with just the IP in the address bar.


im going to leave it alone as its doing the important stuff - fk a gui for now, maybe itll turn up

bless you for your time & consideration, its very much appreciated!

[Digitalmocking]

no worries bro, i only get pissy at ppl who bring attitude, trying to convince me im lying, stupid or doing it wrong.

Everything you've said is well thought out.


pool details & watts used on the kill-a-watt  (now running at 12xx & 724watts, which i assume is all 4 hashing) - if i recall correctly, each chip is set at 165w


i havent tried accessing via another com, but i shall - before i post this. (done - see below)

but the sp30 is running fine and accessible, so im not sure what gives with the sp20

i did notice that when its set to use dhcp - it constantly wanted to use the same IP as my laptops (no idea why)

but i set it to .33 so it 'should' be there, advanced IP scanner shows it as there, but no joy with browser or putty.


OK - tested on other laptop, FF & Chrome - nothing - comes up with a blank screen with just the IP in the address bar.


im going to leave it alone as its doing the important stuff - fk a gui for now, maybe itll turn up

bless you for your time & consideration, its very much appreciated!

Grab advanced IP scanner and do a network scan.  If the miner is online and hashing, it has to be active on your network.  It would really be odd if the ssh daemon wasn't running for you.

I've had my SP20s from time to time boot and mine without the http daemon start up, but not with the current released firmware.

[Finksy]

If you are really concerned with the UI, what I had to do on occasion with my SP20's when I was having network problems and had them set on DHCP was connect each directly to a computer, (with no other network connected to that computer) and run a dhcp client for windows (TFTPD32), have it assign an IP address, access the GUI from there and then peg a static IP for that miner. Not sure if this would be applicable in your case or not.  Did you try doing an SD recovery?

[mavericklm]

any updates on the new chip
 

[notlist3d]

any updates on the new chip
 

I don't think they will be doing updates.  Most companies have been pretty secretive on timelines.  They all want to be the first of next gen though that is for sure.

I expect we don't hear much from any of the companies till launch of next gen.  The only one we really know about is the project over here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=995675.0 where they are trying to push bitmains chip to better efficiency.

[edgar]

If you are really concerned with the UI, what I had to do on occasion with my SP20's when I was having network problems and had them set on DHCP was connect each directly to a computer, (with no other network connected to that computer) and run a dhcp client for windows (TFTPD32), have it assign an IP address, access the GUI from there and then peg a static IP for that miner. Not sure if this would be applicable in your case or not.  Did you try doing an SD recovery?

im not overly concerned, it really doenst matter so long as all the chips are hashing.

ive done enough SD recovers/boots to not want to do another unless its really needed.


i considered resetting the router - just to see if it makes a diff. but so far cant be bothered.

i just reset the router - sp30 UI comes back fine - sp20 UI still a no show (but all 4 chips are still hashing)

Advanced IP scanner can see it but neither FF or Chrome or Putty can access.

i give up.

[notlist3d]

If you are really concerned with the UI, what I had to do on occasion with my SP20's when I was having network problems and had them set on DHCP was connect each directly to a computer, (with no other network connected to that computer) and run a dhcp client for windows (TFTPD32), have it assign an IP address, access the GUI from there and then peg a static IP for that miner. Not sure if this would be applicable in your case or not.  Did you try doing an SD recovery?

im not overly concerned, it really doenst matter so long as all the chips are hashing.

ive done enough SD recovers/boots to not want to do another unless its really needed.


i considered resetting the router - just to see if it makes a diff. but so far cant be bothered.

i just reset the router - sp30 UI comes back fine - sp20 UI still a no show (but all 4 chips are still hashing)

Advanced IP scanner can see it but neither FF or Chrome or Putty can access.

i give up.

That is sad to hear.  Sounds like it was not a fun few day's though.  I hope eventually have time to get back to it and hopefully the sd reset will work.

Anyways best of luck.

[Digitalmocking]

any updates on the new chip
 

SP won't have another consumer product most likely.

[dmwardjr]

any updates on the new chip
 

SP won't have another consumer product most likely.

Not looking like it at all.  Bitmain, SFard's and another group out of Austin, Texas may be our only hope.

[Finksy]

any updates on the new chip
 

SP won't have another consumer product most likely.

Not looking like it at all.  Bitmain, SFard's and another group out of Austin, Texas may be our only hope.

The only problem I see is if Bitmain has the consumer market cornered, they can self-mine on their new equipment and keep selling old technology without any open market competition. The S4+ has shown their willingness to keep working with older technology vs racing to release new models.  Sfards is (thus far) relying on SP's chips to produce their hardware. SP has already shied away from consumer products, they may decide to shy away from B2B sales as well and focus on their new joint venture. Any info on the group in TX?

[dmwardjr]

any updates on the new chip
 

SP won't have another consumer product most likely.

Not looking like it at all.  Bitmain, SFard's and another group out of Austin, Texas may be our only hope.

The only problem I see is if Bitmain has the consumer market cornered, they can self-mine on their new equipment and keep selling old technology without any open market competition. The S4+ has shown their willingness to keep working with older technology vs racing to release new models.  Sfards is (thus far) relying on SP's chips to produce their hardware. SP has already shied away from consumer products, they may decide to shy away from B2B sales as well and focus on their new joint venture. Any info on the group in TX?

I'll need to go back quite a few pages in this thread that was around the time a bitcoin convention was held in Austin.  Do recall the date?  I think it was sometime in March.  I'll be right back.  Researching now...

[dmwardjr]

Found it:

Hello All.

This is the Miner Edge LLC official Bitcointalk user.

Guy,  Will you do the honors of confirming that this is the real Miner Edge.    We emailed earlier about shipping a broken SP35 for serial power testing.

MinerEdge rack mounted system based on RockerBox pictures can be found here http://imgur.com/a/5g0cq

This system looks neat--any word when we might see it in the wild?

+1
I do not need the water cooling, but would love to buy more miners from most anyone SPtech recommends. I refuse to give BITMAIN another dollar, even if it means I can't mine anymore.

We will be at the Texas Bitcoin Conference.  http://texasbitcoinconference.com/conferences/austin2015#sponsors

Our system is ready for production now and we will be opening orders soon.   More info on this to follow soon.

We are also working on a 3-4U air cooled version of the above tray.  Everything identical except with air cooled heat pipe heatsink below, and fans.

This will be our permanent architecture for the foreseeable future.  We will be selling upgrade modules as future ASICs will be developed.

If you buy into our system you get to reuse everything other than the hashing modules.    Modules can be replaced in about 15 minutes.


Nathan Ho
Founder/CEO
Miner Edge LLC
MinerEdge.com
Email: nathan at mineredge.com
skype:  h.nathan.h@Skype

MinerEdge rack mounted system based on RockerBox pictures can be found here http://imgur.com/a/5g0cq

Nathan provided the following info:

Water cooled.  One long heatsink resides below the 4 modules. Making for easy replacement of modules.   
 
Efficiency, Not quite as good as some of the best numbers we have seen on the SP20 but we have more tweaking to do.  Our next rev board (in case Serial power doesn’t work) will have some more power improvements.  We hope to gain an additional 4% DC-DC efficiency at max current.
 
.69w/GHs @ 6THs
.57w/GHs @ 5THs
.51w/GHs @ 4THs
Measured at wall @ 240v
 
Management traffic goes out the RJ45 jacks on the front.
We will be integrating the board level management data with the ASIC data shortly.  This will allow us to power 24 cards(6 chassis) off of one management card.
 
This system is basically equivalent to 4 SP20 systems in one 1U tray.

Contact information:

Nathan Ho
Founder/CEO
Miner Edge LLC
MinerEdge.com
Email: nathan at mineredge.com
skype:  h.nathan.h@Skype

[mavericklm]

b2b only
moq 400pieces!
 

[klondike_bar]

Found it:


This system is basically equivalent to 4 SP20 systems in one 1U tray.

Contact information:

Nathan Ho
Founder/CEO
Miner Edge LLC
MinerEdge.com
Email: nathan at mineredge.com
skype:  h.nathan.h@Skype

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how did i miss that till now? 32chips in a 1U enclosure (the SP3x had 30/2U) seems like a LOT of heat, particularly if the PSUs are inline with the chips (which one is getting the 'secondary' already-hot air?)

Nevertheless, could be great for bulk deployment