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[50cent_rapper]

Any thoughts on the NEM scandal unfolding?

It's very easy. NEM does not exist. When it will be released - then we will have thoughts on it.

[devphp]

Any thoughts on the NEM scandal unfolding?

It's very easy. NEM does not exist. When it will be released - then we will have thoughts on it.

+1440 

[gorillajam]

Its not fear. Im just tired of so many posts regarding nxt. I know i can use the AE. do i have to tell it over and over again?

Surrender!
Resistance if futile.
You have been brain washed!

It is like coca cola now
NXT AE everywhere!

Honestly NXT is a brilliant system (well it was done by Qora after all)

But what makes me confident is I find NXT AE and NXT generally so user unfriendly. I don't know why, I just hate using it, I cant be the only one.

To me the comparision to Myspace and FB comes to mind with NXT and Qora so thats why i'm really hoping and looking to see if Qora implements its asset exchange and other functions in a way that makes me want to use it.

NXT to me therefore is technically good, but I think the opportunity is to do what it does better. So its not a threat its a worthy competitor. people can mention it all they want IMO.


having NXT as a worthy competitor also means another thing. Its criminally undervalued!!!!!

NXT, NXT, NXT

NXT AE, NXT AE, NXT AE

Hopefully we have that out of our system.  Now what about v9, website, etc?

Oh wait.  Lets talk about NEM.


 

One thing I find funny about Qora is that we don't have that much to talk about cause:

1. Qora does almost all the development (he's not much of a conversationalist if you haven't noticed either)

2. Everything has moved along smoothly considering, NXT was a clusterbomb at times early on.

3. The website, is covered, plus video, nothing to discuss really.

4. Can't think of another one, which is my point, there is not much to talk about.



So I say lets have a bit more open discussion. I'm not suggesting we go wildly off topic but when people keep saying hey lets get back to talking about development I'm like ummmm what development? There is some stuff to discuss but not much.

[gorillajam]

Any thoughts on the NEM scandal unfolding?

It's very easy. NEM does not exist. When it will be released - then we will have thoughts on it.

The scandal doesn't exist now?, incorrect.

[devphp]

The scandal doesn't exist now?, incorrect.

Since we have nothing to talk about anyway, can you give a summary in 2-3 sentences what the scandal is about?

[gorillajam]

The scandal doesn't exist now?, incorrect.

Since we have nothing to talk about anyway, can you give a summary in 2-3 sentences what the scandal is about?

I linked you, you missed it, look back.


Again here it is.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=649852.0


It seems like Utopianfuture has been caught hypocritically getting multiple stakes. If you know the past about NEM you will know the obbsession against sockpuppets. Personally I always hated the NEM initial idea of fairness which has been proven many times to be a false idea.

I do think its relevent to Qora because it was/is a major competitor. I don't think it has much chance to recover its rep now. But thats open to discussion.

[Djinou94]

I don't undestand the nem scandal
It's just because Utopian criticized Sim dev ?
I bought 1 stake under 19k NxT thanks the scandal...

[Vrontis]

Any thoughts on the NEM scandal unfolding?

Have they released something yet?
I have seen a website that looks like a wallet, have read "beautiful" things about it.But for now the only that I have seen is some tokens.
So, it is great to invest in a new world but as it seems, the leader of NEM is also a sockpuppet... and probably NEM is a fairly distributed sockpuppet.

[50cent_rapper]

Any thoughts on the NEM scandal unfolding?

It's very easy. NEM does not exist. When it will be released - then we will have thoughts on it.

The scandal doesn't exist now?, incorrect.

Yeah, good distinction. You are correct: there are aliens and talks/scandals about aliens. In this view, yes, remembering that utopianfuture has 25% premine this situation with sockpuppets is crazy and a big shame. 

[QoraKnight]

People,

I honestly want to do what's good for Qora.  Now NEM is out of the race, we've got one less competitor. It should come as obvious to anyone that Qora and NXT will prolly be the only 2nd-Gen coins left in the foreseeable future.

So here is my proposal -

1. We exercise self-censorship.  We will voluntarily remove all the useless posts in the last 10 pages or so.  If you guys do it, I will surely follow suit. I'm making you a deal to make this thread look better. It'll be good for Qora.

2. So I came on here with a different opinion, and people in this thread started attacking me without justifiable reason, telling me to go away, and calling me a troll. Well, all I was telling you in the beginning is not to promote NXT AE Gateway in Qora thread, and that makes me a troll? Why are you so eager to defend Nxt AE Gateway?

With renat0, I can see the reason. He is one of the biggest buyer and holder of NXT, so he's got a perfect reason to promote both coins in Qora's thread. How about the rest of you guys? Why do you like to talk about NXT so much in Qora thread?

And you're calling me a Troll? You're just NXT trolls yourself.  

3. I know renat0 thinks himself as the biggest Qora owner and buyer out there, since he's been actively buying all the Qora out on the market. So part of me is very eager to show my card - Show that I am actually the biggest holder of Qora and not that pompous ass, and shut his trap once and for all. On the other hand, I cannot help but wonder whether my action will harm the price of Qora or not because my stake is much larger than his.

So I let you guys decide.

4. I honestly wish a more suitable person will agree to step up to the plate and replace Dzarmush as project lead. This person should not have conflicted interests (not a major stakeholder of another coin).

NotSoShifty has my vote. I honestly hope nonsoshifty will agree to be the new project lead, and replace dzarmush.

Thanks.  

[devphp]

Again here it is.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=649852.0


It seems like Utopianfuture has been caught hypocritically getting multiple stakes. If you know the past about NEM you will know the obbsession against sockpuppets. Personally I always hated the NEM initial idea of fairness which has been proven many times to be a false idea.

I do think its relevent to Qora because it was/is a major competitor. I don't think it has much chance to recover its rep now. But thats open to discussion.

Ok, I've got the idea now.

Well, regardless of what the leader did or did not, I've been saying for the past 2 weeks that NEM won't fly. Not because of the leader. Not because somebody bought 10 or 100 nemstakes. But because the developers of NEM, if indeed they exist, haven't shown a single line of code in 3+ months since the IPO fund raising was over. That got to tell you something.

[gorillajam]

People,

I honestly want to do what's good for Qora.  Now NEM is out of the race, we've got one less competitor. It should come as obvious to anyone that Qora and NXT will prolly be the only 2nd-Gen coins left in the foreseeable future.

So here is my proposal -

1. We exercise self-censorship.  We will voluntarily remove all the useless posts in the last 10 pages or so.  If you guys do it, I will surely follow suit. I'm making you a deal to make this thread look better. It'll be good for Qora.

2. So I came on here with a different opinion, and people in this thread started attacking me without justifiable reason, telling me to go away, and calling me a troll. Well, all I was telling you in the beginning is not to promote NXT AE Gateway in Qora thread, and that makes me a troll? Why are you so eager to defend Nxt AE Gateway?

With renat0, I can see the reason. He is one of the biggest buyer and holder of NXT, so he's got a perfect reason to promote both coins in Qora's thread. How about the rest of you guys? Why do you like to talk about NXT so much in Qora thread?

And you're calling me a Troll? You're just NXT trolls yourself.  

3. I know renat0 thinks himself as the biggest Qora owner and buyer out there, since he's been actively buying all the Qora out on the market. So part of me is very eager to show my card - Show that I am actually the biggest holder of Qora and not that pompous ass, and shut his trap once and for all. On the other hand, I cannot help but wonder whether my action will harm the price of Qora or not because my stake is much larger than his.

So I let you guys decide.

4. I honestly wish a more suitable person will agree to step up to the plate and replace Dzarmush as project lead. This person should not have conflicted interests (not a major stakeholder of another coin).

NotSoShifty has my vote. I honestly hope nonsoshifty will agree to be the new project lead, and replace dzarmush.

Thanks.  

Ignored. Even I got tired of you, and I found you quite funny before.

[QoraKnight]

Ignored. Even I got tired of you, and I found you quite funny before.

The worst offender in the Qora thread wants to ignore me. Right. 

Thanks for the vote of confidence. 

[PilotofBTC]

1. We exercise self-censorship.  We will voluntarily remove all the useless posts in the last 10 pages or so.  If you guys do it, I will surely follow suit. I'm making you a deal to make this thread look better. It'll be good for Qora.

I agree with this plan. But, I'm not sure why you can't go first?

[gorillajam]

1. We exercise self-censorship.  We will voluntarily remove all the useless posts in the last 10 pages or so.  If you guys do it, I will surely follow suit. I'm making you a deal to make this thread look better. It'll be good for Qora.

I agree with this plan. But, I'm not sure why you can't go first?

If people get really tired of sockpuppet nonsense then I'm personally in favour of a moderated Qora thread. I would prefer Dzarmush or someone like him could run it and delete those who clearly have no interest in a real discussion but allows serious disagreement.


You need to understand that guy is never going to go away.

[QoraKnight]

1. We exercise self-censorship.  We will voluntarily remove all the useless posts in the last 10 pages or so.  If you guys do it, I will surely follow suit. I'm making you a deal to make this thread look better. It'll be good for Qora.

I agree with this plan. But, I'm not sure why you can't go first?

If all of the offenders are in agreement, I will go first, no problem. But part of me is still irate and angry that I was attacked without justifiable reason. So I'd prefer if someone else goes first.  

PS: If I'm truly a troll, would I come back with gesture like this? Those guys attacked me, forced me to leave, and called me names, did someone here call them out?

No.  

[QoraKnight]

If people get really tired of sockpuppet nonsense then I'm personally in favour of a moderated Qora thread. I would prefer Dzarmush or someone like him could run it and delete those who clearly have no interest in a real discussion but allows serious disagreement.


You need to understand that guy is never going to go away.

I already announced my plan yesterday to be here for the long haul, since dzarmush informed me only active participants of this thread will have a say on the matter related to Qora. As a major investor, it's within my rights to do so, wouldn't you agree?

Also, I don't support dzarmush. He has lost all his credibility completely. A more suitable person should be elected. I vote for notsoshifty.

[QoraKnight]

If people get really tired of sockpuppet nonsense then I'm personally in favour of a moderated Qora thread. I would prefer Dzarmush or someone like him could run it and delete those who clearly have no interest in a real discussion but allows serious disagreement.

GorillaJam,

Is your name Gorilla Jam in the real life?  If not, you're just another anonymous person on the internet. For all intent and purpose, with a 42 posts count, you're just a socket puppet too.

BTW, did I hurt your feeling yesterday by laughing at your poor command of English? You seem pretty pissed. 

Well I apologize. But you do need to brush up on English though. 

[gorillajam]

If people get really tired of sockpuppet nonsense then I'm personally in favour of a moderated Qora thread. I would prefer Dzarmush or someone like him could run it and delete those who clearly have no interest in a real discussion but allows serious disagreement.


You need to understand that guy is never going to go away.

I already announced my plan yesterday to be here for the long haul, since dzarmush informed me only active participants of this thread will have a say on the matter related to Qora. As a major investor, it's within my rights to do so, wouldn't you agree?

Also, I don't support dzarmush. He has lost all his credibility completely. A more suitable person should be elected. I vote for notsoshifty.

Do you trust the leadership and opinion of Notsoshifty?

[QoraKnight]

Do you trust the leadership and opinion of Notsoshifty?

Yes, I do. He's the only person I would trust here (even though I know for a fact a lot of people will throw their support behind renat0).

He is the only person I think can stay neutral in all kinds of conflicts.

I hope notsoshifty will agree to take over as project lead.

He has my vote of confidence.