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Author Topic: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source  (Read 748242 times)
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June 11, 2014, 07:14:56 PM
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bye! Grin

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June 11, 2014, 07:17:08 PM
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June 11, 2014, 07:18:06 PM
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If by majority, you mean this small circle of NXT supporters who have managed to hijack Qora thread for their own purpose, then I've got nothing to say to you.

This so-called community has been hijacked by some vehement supporters of Nxt. They do everything in the interest of NXT. So for all intent and purpose, I cannot consider myself one of you.

This is a pretty ugly situation because dzarmush is being surrounded by a lot of NXT supporters, and he does not listen to the opinion of true Qora owners.  He does what Nxters want, but does not listen to Qora owners' wishes.

I think unless people like gorillajam has agreed to leave, there is no hope for this community to grow. Until this situation has resolved itself, I refuse to be part of it.

Good day.  Smiley

 Ok Smiley BYE BYE

Also, NXT supporters like innovation. So they can't like NXT and QORA? Have you thought about that?


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June 11, 2014, 07:19:52 PM
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Also, NXT supporters like innovation. So they can't like NXT and QORA? Have you thought about that?
@TwinWinNerD why ask him questions?
don't encourage conversation - nothing good will come out of it -  let him go.
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June 11, 2014, 07:21:17 PM
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Also, NXT supporters like innovation. So they can't like NXT and QORA? Have you thought about that?
@TwinWinNerD why?
don't encourage conversation - nothing good will come out of it -  let him go.

Ok. QoraKnight: YOU DON'T NEED TO RESPOND.

Now back to business!

What is our next plan? Any exchange votes that need to be rigged? Wink

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June 11, 2014, 07:22:38 PM
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In version 9, looking forward to something great.


You're hoping or you know something?
hoping

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June 11, 2014, 07:24:37 PM
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In version 9, looking forward to something great.
You're hoping or you know something?
hoping  Wink
FTFY
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June 11, 2014, 07:38:09 PM
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...he stole all the coins and shut down the exchange.
I'm still puzzled with the fact that there are QORA sitting in my deposit address that he/they never bothered to move...  I can see myself coming to grips with having been scammed/hacked...  but losing coins that might just sit there never to be used is just mind-boggling!?!?!   Shocked Angry Shocked

what do you mean by your deposit address?
you mean sharexcoin main address: QXx7SnaEPvEczS8rX7HZKH3pY4vXG8ATxK  ?
my guess is that he is waiting for a method to dump them - currently he can't use poloniex, nxt AE or OTC exchange because each one of these exchanges will freeze the coins coming for that address.
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June 11, 2014, 07:43:43 PM
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...he stole all the coins and shut down the exchange.
I'm still puzzled with the fact that there are QORA sitting in my deposit address that he/they never bothered to move...  I can see myself coming to grips with having been scammed/hacked...  but losing coins that might just sit there never to be used is just mind-boggling!?!?!   Shocked Angry Shocked

what do you mean by your deposit address?
you mean sharexcoin main address: QXx7SnaEPvEczS8rX7HZKH3pY4vXG8ATxK  ?
my guess is that he is waiting for a method to dump them - currently he can't use poloniex, nxt AE or OTC exchange because each one of these exchanges will freeze the coins coming for that address.


No, when you deposit Qora on the exchange a deposit address is created for you personally. Each person has a unique deposit address.

Also, I don't see what freezing that one address will do. It is a simple matter to spend the coins from one of your addresses to another.
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June 11, 2014, 07:46:35 PM
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No, when you deposit Qora on the exchange a deposit address is created for you personally. Each person has a unique deposit address.
I know that. but sharexcoin than moves the qora from your personal address to the main sharexcoin address.

Also, I don't see what freezing that one address will do. It is a simple matter to spend the coins from one of your addresses to another.
The qora can be tracked easily if they are being moved from this address: QXx7SnaEPvEczS8rX7HZKH3pY4vXG8ATxK  
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June 11, 2014, 07:47:27 PM
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you mean sharexcoin main address: QXx7SnaEPvEczS8rX7HZKH3pY4vXG8ATxK  ?

No...  I mean that he/they didn't even bother to move the QORA I deposited to whatever holding address...  it kinda looks like ziplibrary took the exchange off-line without having prepared to do so to me...   Undecided
Yes. He just shutdown everything.

But it was NO accident. Because he even came online on the forum one more time.

So it was not like he died or something Wink

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June 11, 2014, 07:49:14 PM
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But it was NO accident. Because he even came online on the forum one more time.
of course NO accident. sending qora from sharexcoin to poloniex to dump and than sending some qora back to sharexcoin main address
means he has total control of everything.
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June 11, 2014, 07:50:34 PM
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you mean sharexcoin main address: QXx7SnaEPvEczS8rX7HZKH3pY4vXG8ATxK  ?

No...  I mean that he/they didn't even bother to move the QORA I deposited to whatever holding address...  it kinda looks like ziplibrary took the exchange off-line without having prepared to do so to me...   Undecided

I really think that's what happened. I'd love to know the full real story. But, we'll probably never know.
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June 11, 2014, 07:51:48 PM
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you mean sharexcoin main address: QXx7SnaEPvEczS8rX7HZKH3pY4vXG8ATxK  ?

No...  I mean that he/they didn't even bother to move the QORA I deposited to whatever holding address...  it kinda looks like ziplibrary took the exchange off-line without having prepared to do so to me...   Undecided

I really think that's what happened. I'd love to know the full real story. But, we'll probably never know.

Yes seems so.

And his move is basically to wait until the dust settles and he can sell-off qora on an exchange that doesn't care about tainted coins: Like BTER.

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June 11, 2014, 07:57:48 PM
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of course NO accident. sending qora from sharexcoin to poloniex to dump and than sending some qora back to sharexcoin main address
means he has total control of everything.

Wait a sec...  did Busoni also report QORA sales happening through that account?   

IIRC, yes! 

He even froze 0.8 BTC of the funds that he didn't cashout!

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June 11, 2014, 08:20:49 PM
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He even froze 0.8 BTC of the funds that he didn't cashout!

You see...  these low BTC figures point to quick scalp/arbitrage efforts rather than any significant dumps...  who knows?   Sad

Let me be the one to ask the community a tough question for the STOMACH...  let's say we see ShareXcoin online again where depositors are given the chance to withdraw...  does Busoni send the QORA back??? 



Yes. And not only that. Busoni said he can semd the qora to victims. But we haven't figured out a way to prove loss of funds.

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June 11, 2014, 08:23:47 PM
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He even froze 0.8 BTC of the funds that he didn't cashout!

You see...  these low BTC figures point to quick scalp/arbitrage efforts rather than any significant dumps...  who knows?   Sad

Let me be the one to ask the community a tough question for the STOMACH...  let's say we see ShareXcoin online again where depositors are given the chance to withdraw...  does Busoni send the QORA back??? 



We are assuming that it was Zip that made that transfer. Was it made at a time when withdrawals were working? Has Busoni been in communication with the person that owns the account which he froze?
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June 11, 2014, 08:43:13 PM
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But we haven't figured out a way to prove loss of funds.

Yup...  no way of knowing if someone sold their QORA in the meantime.

I still propose everyone that has a Qora balance on ShareXCoin make a claim to Busoni. He can open the claim period for 10 days. If after that time the claims are = or < the amount he has frozen, he can disburse the coins. Otherwise, they go to the community fund for bounties/givaways. I can't think of any fairer way to do it.
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But we haven't figured out a way to prove loss of funds.
Yup...  no way of knowing if someone sold their QORA in the meantime.
I still propose everyone that has a Qora balance on ShareXCoin make a claim to Busoni. He can open the claim period for 10 days. If after that time the claims are = or < the amount he has frozen, he can disburse the coins. Otherwise, they go to the community fund for bounties/givaways. I can't think of any fairer way to do it.

@PilotofBTC I am sorry for your loss but there is no way that the claims are = or < the amount busoni has frozen.
"only" about 23M frozen.

you claim you lost about 20M.
I know TwinWinNerD lost a lot.
I lost a big amount also.
and I am sure there are a lot more people.

community fund for bounties/giveaways is really the best and only fair solution for the frozen funds.
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June 11, 2014, 09:04:21 PM
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But we haven't figured out a way to prove loss of funds.
Yup...  no way of knowing if someone sold their QORA in the meantime.
I still propose everyone that has a Qora balance on ShareXCoin make a claim to Busoni. He can open the claim period for 10 days. If after that time the claims are = or < the amount he has frozen, he can disburse the coins. Otherwise, they go to the community fund for bounties/givaways. I can't think of any fairer way to do it.

@PilotofBTC I am sorry for your loss but there is no way that the claims are = or < the amount he has frozen.
"only" about 23M frozen.
you claim you lost about 20M.
I know TwinWinNerD lost a lot.
I lost a big amount also.
and I am sure there are a lot more people.

community fund for bounties/giveaways is really the best and only fair solution for the frozen funds.
That or fractional refunds.

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