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[agran]

@qora: API for AE Finally?

For example:

Code:

{
         "fee":"1.00000000",
         "timestamp":1411442330484,
         "confirmations":184,
         "divisible":true,
         "description":"BTC",
         "name":"BTC",
         "quantity":1000000,
         "type":11,
         "reference":"28GbetPRv9sjNRSWX1HRdNrarCYC1nMXqdUJcFwGsNXmxyQDqMes4GC93Ua5BFGJH4VxJAnk11k8F4rs3uahjHvH",
         "signature":"5yF5W5byrEuuotdArMwEuaQo7NkUpzEh16m5PsfNQ6ta5FvEGqC3AhXtEtZXZtAk8cMr2XUV59CBD7vtrtHhFdqe",
         "creator":"QNRvavphMDydCUDXy7jc7EJZwBQQTydgYX"
      }

Here it is obvious that the asset is created. But what he does not know key. Add this please.

The ID for an asset is given after it is confirmed.

But this transaction has already been confirmed! But the key is not present.

[rabbiter]

So AE is there, but price and volume are still the same as before the AE.. Somebody knows whats up? I know Qora needs more marketing, we need to be published and rated by websites like : coinsource.com, cryptoarticles.com etc. We need to hit Bittrex and Mintpal, We need promoting in China. It will also be nice if Qora will be used for something, that you can pay with it or whatever.. 

Thoughts of other members? Ideas?

As i type, qora is a great product, but no body use it.
AE is not a big deal if nobody use it.
NXT's AE is very good, we can't deny it.
And at this moment, NXT's AE is better to use.
I mean with NXT's GUI and block explorer it's very convenient to use.
If we can't find something unique, then people have no reason to use qora's AE.
The stakeholders expect the price will soar up and wait to dump.
But no more new comers. The price didn't rise.
4 month has past, but the address who own more than 10K qora is less than 700.
Basically it's a game between the stakeholders.
No new comers.
That why the price will never rising.
Qora's AE is far from easy to use.
We should find something which NXT's AE can't do.
We really need to open the source code of V1. There is no need to worry about clones as we already have AE and other features. V1 don't have any new features such as voting system, Arbitrary transaction and AE.
It's the time to open it. We need people to review the protocol.

This is why imo it SHOULD NOT go open source atm. Without the popularity or traction it's in dangerous teritory once the code goes open source - it "only" takes a skilled team of guys to clone qora, add a great looking front end with a singing and dancing OP and suddenly they have a better product than Qora that can then very easily overtake us without doing any major leg work.

Continue to make the product as refined as possible, build a marketting team/material and when ready simultaneously release a super refined wallet with gorgeous GUI, smash it down with a marketting sledge hammer and open source all at once to get a bit of steam up.

To say no-one is entering Qora is false - i only started accumulating 2 weeks back, but im only gathering on sharp falls rather than buying at ask.

The community can't wait just so you accumulate cheap coins. 

Your argument is poor, Even if they did clone, which I doubt, it would take a long time for someone to put AE in place and other Qoras functions. It would be possible to do a simple GUI and make the V1 pretty but could you point out just one example of a clone being more popular than the original?

Clones help the original!!!!! How many times to people need to hear this.

Lets assume your right on your generalistion of clones "helping the originals" - If the original coin is floundering/un-popular then what im saying is its quite possible that the clone THEN BECOMES THE ORIGINAL in many peoples eyes if it gets out of the gates fast, gains some popularity and devs add features quickly. If its a users first experience with a product - it is original to them, and if its original to enough people - it kinda becomes the mainstream. You dont want a clone growing a larger network than the original.

Not saying it will or wont happen  - im saying thats why i believe OS should wait til its 110% ready for it - and in all honesty thats an arbitrary figure that will be decided by personal opinion.
Theres a lot of good things here and plenty of potential - needs careful consideration.

Im done buying btw - so it can shoot up whenever it feels like it!

I have very little fight left me on this issue anymore. Either now or when the wallet is looking nice I don't care much, its really a matter of opening the source too late or really too late now. imo

I get your argument but I have said many time clones don't have much traction these days, they are viewed as crappy pumps and dumps, even the NXT clones turned into new codes so people took them seriously. Plus Qora never has any serious problem with its distribution which is the main reason for the flood of NXT clones in the first place. Personally a clone or two would be a nice compliment to Qora's coding more than anything now. Plus it would be great to find NXT putting some of his ideas in NXT and looking like followers rather than leaders.

[agran]

@qora:

Code:

      {
         "fee":"1.00000000",
         "timestamp":1411442330484,
         "confirmations":184,
         "divisible":true,
         "description":"BTC",
         "name":"BTC",
         "quantity":1000000,
         "type":11,
         "reference":"28GbetPRv9sjNRSWX1HRdNrarCYC1nMXqdUJcFwGsNXmxyQDqMes4GC93Ua5BFGJH4VxJAnk11k8F4rs3uahjHvH",
         "signature":"5yF5W5byrEuuotdArMwEuaQo7NkUpzEh16m5PsfNQ6ta5FvEGqC3AhXtEtZXZtAk8cMr2XUV59CBD7vtrtHhFdqe",
         "creator":"QNRvavphMDydCUDXy7jc7EJZwBQQTydgYX"
      }

It would be nice to come up with a way to to know key of this asset.

Code:

      {
         "fee":"1.00000000",
         "timestamp":1411442301109,
         "confirmations":184,
         "order":{
            "amount":"100.00000000",
            "price":"0.10000000",
            "have":0,
            "want":26
         },
         "type":13,
         "reference":"542HRku4io7vf9re93kuKpG7otoTGb1fXJLwDUK6EQTuzSodL44NcXDDX361bpoPn1CrTKqjuqoPNGpU1dz7NQ39",
         "signature":"28GbetPRv9sjNRSWX1HRdNrarCYC1nMXqdUJcFwGsNXmxyQDqMes4GC93Ua5BFGJH4VxJAnk11k8F4rs3uahjHvH",
         "creator":"QNRvavphMDydCUDXy7jc7EJZwBQQTydgYX"
      }

One of the transactions that would be enough coins moved from one wallet to another?

Code:

      {
         "fee":"1.00000000",
         "timestamp":1411561411164,
         "sender":"QMmtzNoMHjD7qJmrVU9Wz5K2vWGWbvPQJF",
         "amount":"10.00000000",
         "confirmations":3,
         "asset":13,
         "type":12,
         "reference":"3YgJHTkRCAx4yCugqmWpFXxt5bqPs6bWRwKVuaG4LrNfoJ1xr8QPg3f5uYW9Qr1XiQF3tnqCBxcoNwoUKtuGcfqi",
         "signature":"3fpwBUDrNBE4HD2GdwGfsLVYdq44bpk82NDgQo6qsu43fcVwkHyFaDaJK2Gg6pRUSc9VQ8uHoCjV5mH6cvxTF2up",
         "recipient":"QWy6GFnh1GFysuUxymGrVcwfSwtPxG3mvL"
      }

With these transactions is clear.

Code:

{"sender":"QeGEdzN6HtJ29fvCCGT1ZLZvwwKo6MR4Wk","timestamp":1411332053065,"fee":"1.40000000","confirmations":694,"payments":[{"amount":"16.00000000","asset":0,"recipient":0.00000000 - QQDBmVzG7EmAi1ivsQkyCDcoBGohHoq6d6},{"amount":"4.00000000","asset":0,"recipient":0.00000000 - QQJ83BLjMH9efxEzM9QbYwFb6VBi9cAG96}],"type":15,"signature":"uweT4KJSXzP9V7mJnHwJWCwwAkBUCxxRAtQAdv5Fdz1x4ug5S9bnvDsSydgGjXyaXfY73twc8D9czKzFoHcb85f","reference":"2UgBnGiRYLYDA8b58TPBQkWwTud16B4ZuwKUPV2jotqeQdpp3Q4yFL4xGpGqhkaPvLYgYwBY3gu2js9HuMpVT3Vy"}

What makes this transaction?

[Djinou94]

So AE is there, but price and volume are still the same as before the AE.. Somebody knows whats up? I know Qora needs more marketing, we need to be published and rated by websites like : coinsource.com, cryptoarticles.com etc. We need to hit Bittrex and Mintpal, We need promoting in China. It will also be nice if Qora will be used for something, that you can pay with it or whatever..  

Thoughts of other members? Ideas?

As i type, qora is a great product, but no body use it.
AE is not a big deal if nobody use it.
NXT's AE is very good, we can't deny it.
And at this moment, NXT's AE is better to use.
I mean with NXT's GUI and block explorer it's very convenient to use.
If we can't find something unique, then people have no reason to use qora's AE.
The stakeholders expect the price will soar up and wait to dump.
But no more new comers. The price didn't rise.
4 month has past, but the address who own more than 10K qora is less than 700.
Basically it's a game between the stakeholders.
No new comers.
That why the price will never rising.
Qora's AE is far from easy to use.
We should find something which NXT's AE can't do.
We really need to open the source code of V1. There is no need to worry about clones as we already have AE and other features. V1 don't have any new features such as voting system, Arbitrary transaction and AE.
It's the time to open it. We need people to review the protocol.

I don't agree with much of what you said but I do about OS. I can't see any downside to going OS at this point. I think once people see it is great coding and different from NXT people will want to invest. I do wish we had done this earlier though we passed on a lot of early interest, now we have lots of new coded coins or at least they claim it. Qora has yet to show any of it's price potential.  

The AE has a lot of function that NXT would love to have. Once we have a better GUI I expect many people will over time use Qora as an asset exchange. It's all about long term potential not short term gimmicks.

Things going well except the price
Personally i don't care
Great job for the AE what we need is more marketing, AE project and a better GUI
But if you want to release the code yes i think open the V1 is a solution

[skylys]

So AE is there, but price and volume are still the same as before the AE.. Somebody knows whats up? I know Qora needs more marketing, we need to be published and rated by websites like : coinsource.com, cryptoarticles.com etc. We need to hit Bittrex and Mintpal, We need promoting in China. It will also be nice if Qora will be used for something, that you can pay with it or whatever..  

Thoughts of other members? Ideas?

As i type, qora is a great product, but no body use it.
AE is not a big deal if nobody use it.
NXT's AE is very good, we can't deny it.
And at this moment, NXT's AE is better to use.
I mean with NXT's GUI and block explorer it's very convenient to use.
If we can't find something unique, then people have no reason to use qora's AE.
The stakeholders expect the price will soar up and wait to dump.
But no more new comers. The price didn't rise.
4 month has past, but the address who own more than 10K qora is less than 700.
Basically it's a game between the stakeholders.
No new comers.
That why the price will never rising.
Qora's AE is far from easy to use.
We should find something which NXT's AE can't do.
We really need to open the source code of V1. There is no need to worry about clones as we already have AE and other features. V1 don't have any new features such as voting system, Arbitrary transaction and AE.
It's the time to open it. We need people to review the protocol.

I don't agree with much of what you said but I do about OS. I can't see any downside to going OS at this point. I think once people see it is great coding and different from NXT people will want to invest. I do wish we had done this earlier though we passed on a lot of early interest, now we have lots of new coded coins or at least they claim it. Qora has yet to show any of it's price potential.  

The AE has a lot of function that NXT would love to have. Once we have a better GUI I expect many people will over time use Qora as an asset exchange. It's all about long term potential not short term gimmicks.

Things going well except the price
Personally i don't care
Great job for the AE what we need is more marketing, AE project and a better GUI
But if you want to release the code yes i think open the V1 is a solution

We want it?4 months,nobody even see a single line of the code..
OS is a reasonable..I will post everyday until OS..

[Qorafan]

+1

[/quote]

Things going well except the price
Personally i don't care
Great job for the AE what we need is more marketing, AE project and a better GUI
But if you want to release the code yes i think open the V1 is a solution


[/quote]

[Counterpartybtc]

beautiful GUI and os is important.

[rabbiter]

I forgot a great option many in the community could get behind!


You know another good option is to do what NXT did, release the code with a few flaws. One benefit is it gets coding types to look closely into the code which has the benefits to possible recruitment.



How about we vote for OS but with three flaws, that would give us even more time and have the benefits I mentioned. It could be very good for exposure to Qora and his work. I imagine a lot of discussion would arise, more than just simple OS.

[xyz]

Does here have anybody a good connection to poloniex and can ask them why they don't solve my problem? I am waiting now 4 days for my withdrawal of Qora. They don't answer. It's the first (and the last ) time I used this service!

Where can I buy Qora to have not so much troubles?

[devphp]

Does here have anybody a good connection to poloniex and can ask them why they don't solve my problem? I am waiting now 4 days for my withdrawal of Qora. They don't answer. It's the first (and the last ) time I used this service!

Where can I buy Qora to have not so much troubles?

Try bter.com

[xyz]

Does here have anybody a good connection to poloniex and can ask them why they don't solve my problem? I am waiting now 4 days for my withdrawal of Qora. They don't answer. It's the first (and the last ) time I used this service!

Where can I buy Qora to have not so much troubles?

Try bter.com

Do you have good experiences with bter.com? Do they answer in time and solve problems better than poloniex?

[devphp]

Do you have good experiences with bter.com? Do they answer in time and solve problems better than poloniex?

I would say they are both about the same in terms of support and how quickly issues are resolved. I mean to say they both are good and reliable enough.

[xyz]

Do you have good experiences with bter.com? Do they answer in time and solve problems better than poloniex?

I would say they are both about the same in terms of support and how quickly issues are resolved. I mean to say they both are good and reliable enough.

Thanks!
But if they are about the same then I will stay away...
I am enough angry!

[twospirit]

Does here have anybody a good connection to poloniex and can ask them why they don't solve my problem? I am waiting now 4 days for my withdrawal of Qora. They don't answer. It's the first (and the last ) time I used this service!

Where can I buy Qora to have not so much troubles?

Try bter.com

Do you have good experiences with bter.com? Do they answer in time and solve problems better than poloniex?

bter withdrawals work better, but they charge 1% fee 

[agran]

Fresh Qora data folder. For fast synchronization.
http://qora.co.in/data_20140924_202101_34794.zip (mirror: https://mega.co.nz/#!rwQCwAQb!4Px-VJ5u6a-yfUgCgkfddoYg_TuwhV5ejnwFImMNKss )
sha1 406de6dde593c06d39cd27266840a3ec7c4fd671

34794 block

Put 'data' folder in 'Qora' folder.

[qora]

There is a small problem that when you cancel an order the amount is not added back to your balance.
Your balance will correctly reappear in the next version.

[zanzibar]

There is a small problem that when you cancel an order the amount is not added back to your balance.
Your balance will correctly reappear in the next version.

That's not really a small problem, and another good reason to run on a testnet before launching a new feature.

[Djinou94]

lol QCNext is funny 

[mojpoj]

There is a small problem that when you cancel an order the amount is not added back to your balance.
Your balance will correctly reappear in the next version.

That's not really a small problem, and another good reason to run on a testnet before launching a new feature.

Agreed, it's a big problem.

[Vrontis]

As for the next phase of Qora development is wallet improvement I would like to point out some recommendations that I have in mind for discussing them and if possible to implement those in Qora wallet.

The first is that I would like to have loaded only addresses with balance > 0.
Now with the asset exchange as well were we actually have assets as an other balance overview then by loading both empty and non empty address in wallet it gets a little mess with all those addresses listed in there. This is my opinion on that and I believe that a call of non zero addresses will be helpful plenty enough.
The second is also about addresses. I believe that a label is needed as well in order to name addresses and make them more user friendly.
Finally, if an HTML based wallet is going to be builded (which is more eye candy and possible more flexible for development)  then I believe that api calls could have an efficient handling from wallet to retrieve data (such as the non zero addresses that I mentioned above). In this scenario then we might think other great features to have them integrated into wallet as well.

Also the wallet design is something that will boost Qora as well for mass adoption. As I said html wallets are definitely eye candy. So, if we can have some wallet designs that we could select (vote) as an official wallet release then it will be pretty helpful as well.

Other possible features into the wallet with an HTML architecture will might be block explorer, friends list, asset list, messaging, peers,polls, api etc..