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November 26, 2022, 05:45:34 PM
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PSG are of course concentrated on the Champions League championship before anything else. As they have a trio consisting of Messi, Mbappe and Neymar it is like their biggest opportunity to make it. But they need to play with a really strong system from now on. Bayern Munich are one of the title contenders at the same time. Although they haven't made a striker transfer they are still very powerful.

I expect a very close matchup but PSG can still do this. Messi has really bad memories with Barcelona against Bayern Munich. Maybe it is time to have revenge on those times.  Smiley

My friend you are taking sides too fast
Why not PSG just play good football and win
Why should a player be so focused on taking revenge. Any of them both can win don't take side's fast

If you mean that it is still early for this matchup then it is true. But we are free to share our predictions anyway. I'm just feeling myself closer to PSG for now. They are stronger after adding Messi to the team and completing the trio. I will be expecting PSG to perform even better than their last meet with Bayern Munich.

Maybe Messi might not play with a revenge psychology. I just wanted to think like it might be a motivation for him. He might like to finish his bad history against Bayern Munich with a solid performance.

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November 26, 2022, 05:49:59 PM
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PSG are of course concentrated on the Champions League championship before anything else. As they have a trio consisting of Messi, Mbappe and Neymar it is like their biggest opportunity to make it. But they need to play with a really strong system from now on. Bayern Munich are one of the title contenders at the same time. Although they haven't made a striker transfer they are still very powerful.

I expect a very close matchup but PSG can still do this. Messi has really bad memories with Barcelona against Bayern Munich. Maybe it is time to have revenge on those times.  Smiley
I'm sure Psg wishes the players from the World Cup to come back safe.  I expect the trio of Messi, Neymar, Mbappe to continue in the same way after the world cup.  Neymar suffered a minor injury in the world cup but will get over it and come back stronger.  Psg's biggest chance in Champions League matches will be this offensive line.  Right now they have a better offensive line than Bayern Munich.

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November 26, 2022, 06:06:16 PM
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But in reality, even PSG only finished in second place in the final standings of Group H and still lost to Benfica who was in first place.
This result at least provides a little proof that PSG still doesn't fully have the form expected, and when compared to the results they had in Ligue 1, it still cannot be a reference for PSG to get an easy step in the Champions League.

PSG has never lost any match against Benfica. They drew. I would say it was a good enough result. As both Ligue 1 and Champions League titles are important for PSG. So PSG did not give a full effort in the match against Benfica. PSG has tried to maintain consistency in both Ligue 1 and the Champions League. And I would say they are successful.
But in the next round, they are going to face the mighty Bayern Munich. If PSG players have any weaknesses or mistakes in this match then they will not be able to win against Munich. Both attacking and defensive players must perform well.

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November 26, 2022, 06:52:50 PM
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PSG are of course concentrated on the Champions League championship before anything else. As they have a trio consisting of Messi, Mbappe and Neymar it is like their biggest opportunity to make it. But they need to play with a really strong system from now on. Bayern Munich are one of the title contenders at the same time. Although they haven't made a striker transfer they are still very powerful.

I expect a very close matchup but PSG can still do this. Messi has really bad memories with Barcelona against Bayern Munich. Maybe it is time to have revenge on those times.  Smiley

My friend you are taking sides too fast
Why not PSG just play good football and win
Why should a player be so focused on taking revenge. Any of them both can win don't take side's fast

If you mean that it is still early for this matchup then it is true. But we are free to share our predictions anyway. I'm just feeling myself closer to PSG for now. They are stronger after adding Messi to the team and completing the trio. I will be expecting PSG to perform even better than their last meet with Bayern Munich.

Maybe Messi might not play with a revenge psychology. I just wanted to think like it might be a motivation for him. He might like to finish his bad history against Bayern Munich with a solid performance.
Lionel Messi has an unpleasant history when he met Bayern Munich. Yes, he almost always loses against the German giants. Maybe Bayern Munich know what they have to do when faced with Lionel Messi and it's proven they can stop Lionel Messi's movement.
Obviously as a player he wants to repay and improve his record as an individual, and this Champions League is an opportunity for him to do that. We have to be more patient waiting for the time to come.

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November 26, 2022, 06:59:10 PM
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Lionel Messi has an unpleasant history when he met Bayern Munich. Yes, he almost always loses against the German giants. Maybe Bayern Munich know what they have to do when faced with Lionel Messi and it's proven they can stop Lionel Messi's movement.
Obviously as a player he wants to repay and improve his record as an individual, and this Champions League is an opportunity for him to do that. We have to be more patient waiting for the time to come.
Lionel Messi always not lucky against with Bayern Munich trough still became Barcelona player and right now have to face as PSG player, actually many fans still memorize with last time Lionel Messi beaten by Bayern Munich with fantastic score 8-2 when Messi still with Barcelona. I don't think have lucky for Lionel Messi another time have to face with Bayern Munich although they have changed with players composition than last time beaten Messi with Barcelona, actually Bayern keep favorite for beating PSG based on 100% winning games in group stage and Bayern the only one team in Champion League in this season not loss any points yet in group stage.

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November 26, 2022, 07:02:25 PM
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PSG are of course concentrated on the Champions League championship before anything else. As they have a trio consisting of Messi, Mbappe and Neymar it is like their biggest opportunity to make it. But they need to play with a really strong system from now on. Bayern Munich are one of the title contenders at the same time. Although they haven't made a striker transfer they are still very powerful.

I expect a very close matchup but PSG can still do this. Messi has really bad memories with Barcelona against Bayern Munich. Maybe it is time to have revenge on those times.  Smiley
It is hard to get a revenge from Bayern but I assume if they play good enough they can get a pass through them especially that Bayern has its weakest moments where any team can win against them for a match or two.
Now everyone is concentrated on World Cup to see their teams or favourite players. Mbappe is fine, Messi and his teammates lost vs Saudi Arabia and they are facing Mexico right now, we will see how far they could go..

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November 26, 2022, 07:17:25 PM
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PSG are of course concentrated on the Champions League championship before anything else. As they have a trio consisting of Messi, Mbappe and Neymar it is like their biggest opportunity to make it. But they need to play with a really strong system from now on. Bayern Munich are one of the title contenders at the same time. Although they haven't made a striker transfer they are still very powerful.

I expect a very close matchup but PSG can still do this. Messi has really bad memories with Barcelona against Bayern Munich. Maybe it is time to have revenge on those times.  Smiley
It is hard to get a revenge from Bayern but I assume if they play good enough they can get a pass through them especially that Bayern has its weakest moments where any team can win against them for a match or two.
Now everyone is concentrated on World Cup to see their teams or favourite players. Mbappe is fine, Messi and his teammates lost vs Saudi Arabia and they are facing Mexico right now, we will see how far they could go..
The problem is whether this moment can be obtained by PSG, especially now that Bayern is indeed extraordinary both in the domestic league and the Champions League.
On the other hand, these two clubs are actually very good with all the domination that exists for both of them, especially since they are the rulers in the domestic league in their region (PSG for Ligue 1 and Bayern for the Bundesliga).
Bayern did sometimes have periods when they repeatedly couldn't play well when we look at their game in the Bundesliga but things like this are in the past because of several changes in Bayern's position in players and it's very difficult now for PSG now to make Bayern's moment come back like that.

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November 26, 2022, 07:44:54 PM
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If you mean that it is still early for this matchup then it is true. But we are free to share our predictions anyway. I'm just feeling myself closer to PSG for now. They are stronger after adding Messi to the team and completing the trio. I will be expecting PSG to perform even better than their last meet with Bayern Munich.

Maybe Messi might not play with a revenge psychology. I just wanted to think like it might be a motivation for him. He might like to finish his bad history against Bayern Munich with a solid performance.
Big players never think about revenge because this is never been existing in this sports world with those think about this or having mindset like this they can't do big things in life here we are going to have another big match between two giants from Europe and their background is same as both have no suitable opponents in their domestic leagues with this PSG is surely looking for better future because they are doing good investment and have better squad in this season which is surely going to help them for having better result in this season.

But, one thing is surely if PSG unable to have any positive result from this season then surely we are going to have big changes in coming months in PSG even management can put this club on sell as we already have few in English Premier League, but this one could be really sad.

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November 26, 2022, 10:10:25 PM
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with the current composition of PSG's players, their chances of getting the UCL trophy are up to 70%, but don't be complacent, even though they always win Ligue 1, other teams (like Lens)can shift PSG's dominance in the national league because they are too busy with UCL. PSG must be able to focus on both of them, it is not good for them to only focus on the UCL and underestimate Ligue 1.
70%? Where do you get this because with the current conditions, I personally feel that their chances should still be much smaller.
Not without reason, their Lewan is Bayern now and it would be funny to say they will win with a big Bayern especially they are also good in the group stage but compared to Bayern they are definitely better.

Yes, he was clearly mistaken, probably confused something. Bookmakers estimate the chances of PSG winning the Champions League as 8.5, which is about 12%. Even the favorite (City) has a much smaller chance of about 42%. I don't know what the team should show in order for it to have 70% chances. It's something completely nonsensical.
That's right what I mean because for opportunities like that obviously the advantage is very dominating and it's definitely not at PSG now especially at 70%.
Right now, even if you look at Bayern and PSG, I'll even look more at Bayern in the match, so you've mentioned that 12 percent of the chances of winning might still make sense in this case.
But btw I see the odds from now on for PSG and Bayern in their first leg match will be quite interesting because it is 2.41 for PSG and 2.9 for Bayern. any other thoughts on this?

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November 27, 2022, 03:47:06 AM
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PSG are of course concentrated on the Champions League championship before anything else. As they have a trio consisting of Messi, Mbappe and Neymar it is like their biggest opportunity to make it. But they need to play with a really strong system from now on. Bayern Munich are one of the title contenders at the same time. Although they haven't made a striker transfer they are still very powerful.

I expect a very close matchup but PSG can still do this. Messi has really bad memories with Barcelona against Bayern Munich. Maybe it is time to have revenge on those times.  Smiley

My friend you are taking sides too fast
Why not PSG just play good football and win
Why should a player be so focused on taking revenge. Any of them both can win don't take side's fast

Does Messi even remember those things, players are always willing to take new challenges and make new sacrifices. It is the club that takes revenge and not individuals.
I don't have high hopes for Messi, Mbappe and Neymar because I have seen where three of them crashed out in the same champions league.
If they really want to win, they have to work hard for it, big names don't play ball, it is hard work that plays it.

I don't think Messi has a problem
But the other too are not even hundred percent professionals
Why wouldn't work as a team to win the Champions League
One is egoistic because he has the world Cup already
The other   just don't know but he dribbles a lot

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November 27, 2022, 08:23:12 AM
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I don't think Messi has a problem
But the other too are not even hundred percent professionals
Why wouldn't work as a team to win the Champions League
One is egoistic because he has the world Cup already
The other   just don't know but he dribbles a lot
Try asking that question to those you see as selfish. Because Messi is never selfish and always wants to give his abilities for the team in all matches one hundred percent, but Messi also can't do much if he only moves alone to revive the team, while the others are only selfish by showing selfish attitudes. But I don't think that has anything to do with the world cup because when they are in the same team, they should forget about their own country's national team.
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November 27, 2022, 08:47:35 AM
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I don't think Messi has a problem
But the other too are not even hundred percent professionals
Why wouldn't work as a team to win the Champions League
One is egoistic because he has the world Cup already
The other   just don't know but he dribbles a lot
Try asking that question to those you see as selfish. Because Messi is never selfish and always wants to give his abilities for the team in all matches one hundred percent, but Messi also can't do much if he only moves alone to revive the team, while the others are only selfish by showing selfish attitudes. But I don't think that has anything to do with the world cup because when they are in the same team, they should forget about their own country's national team.

Selfishness in this discussion between those three great players has something to do with age and ambition. When Messi was younger, his ambition was much and everyone in the Barcelona team as if them was playing for him. He has achieved almost everything he wanted in his career apart from world cup and he is more than 30yrs old, he has no option than to be selfless.
Mbappe is a very young guy who is so ambitious and seeing future in himself. You don't blame him if he appears selfish sometimes.

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Selfishness in this discussion between those three great players has something to do with age and ambition. When Messi was younger, his ambition was much and everyone in the Barcelona team as if them was playing for him. He has achieved almost everything he wanted in his career apart from world cup and he is more than 30yrs old, he has no option than to be selfless.
Mbappe is a very young guy who is so ambitious and seeing future in himself. You don't blame him if he appears selfish sometimes.
Yes, you said something right when you said that Lionel Messi was widely supported by other players when he played at Barcelona. It's a different thing now when he plays for Paris Saint Germain. I saw that it was he who gave a lot of support to other players. Indeed, the age factor will change something different from his game when he was young and when he played as a senior.

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November 27, 2022, 02:45:34 PM
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Yes, he was clearly mistaken, probably confused something. Bookmakers estimate the chances of PSG winning the Champions League as 8.5, which is about 12%. Even the favorite (City) has a much smaller chance of about 42%. I don't know what the team should show in order for it to have 70% chances. It's something completely nonsensical.
That's right what I mean because for opportunities like that obviously the advantage is very dominating and it's definitely not at PSG now especially at 70%.
Right now, even if you look at Bayern and PSG, I'll even look more at Bayern in the match, so you've mentioned that 12 percent of the chances of winning might still make sense in this case.
But btw I see the odds from now on for PSG and Bayern in their first leg match will be quite interesting because it is 2.41 for PSG and 2.9 for Bayern. any other thoughts on this?

The home game factor and the crowd factor that bet on big names (Mbappe, Neymar, Messi, etc.) forgetting that not names but teams play football. But bookmakers are obliged to insure their risks (more precisely, to give risk-free odds for themselves), so they give such odds. I think this is a good opportunity to bet on Bayern, it seems to me that they are the favorite even in the first game.

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November 27, 2022, 03:42:05 PM
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But, one thing is surely if PSG unable to have any positive result from this season then surely we are going to have big changes in coming months in PSG even management can put this club on sell as we already have few in English Premier League, but this one could be really sad.

PSG's owner won't sell the club if they can't win the Champions League, they dominate Ligue 1, they can keep making money as they are currently doing, just don't sign very expensive players that in the long run they will have a lot of profit, that since the beginning it has always been a long-term business, and if the owner of the team wants to make a profit, he needs to keep the team as it is today and win the European leagues with that same team, without spending too much on signings. messi has brought profits and good results in the team, mbappe will probably have a more inflated ego when he returns from qatar than before leaving paris

Yes, he was clearly mistaken, probably confused something. Bookmakers estimate the chances of PSG winning the Champions League as 8.5, which is about 12%. Even the favorite (City) has a much smaller chance of about 42%. I don't know what the team should show in order for it to have 70% chances. It's something completely nonsensical.
That's right what I mean because for opportunities like that obviously the advantage is very dominating and it's definitely not at PSG now especially at 70%.
Right now, even if you look at Bayern and PSG, I'll even look more at Bayern in the match, so you've mentioned that 12 percent of the chances of winning might still make sense in this case.
But btw I see the odds from now on for PSG and Bayern in their first leg match will be quite interesting because it is 2.41 for PSG and 2.9 for Bayern. any other thoughts on this?

The home game factor and the crowd factor that bet on big names (Mbappe, Neymar, Messi, etc.) forgetting that not names but teams play football. But bookmakers are obliged to insure their risks (more precisely, to give risk-free odds for themselves), so they give such odds. I think this is a good opportunity to bet on Bayern, it seems to me that they are the favorite even in the first game.

I won't bet on who will win, in a game between two great teams like these, I'd rather bet on BTTS or over 2.5 goals, or even bet that Bayern will score 2 goals, it seems to me to be less risky bets than betting on which team will win that one game, despite PSG not having a good record in the champions league, this season they have a new coach, they have a much better defense than the weak defense they had last season, that's why they have chances to beat bayern and bayern also has a good defensive performance in the champions league. so it would be possible to bet that PSG would not score many goals against bayern, it seems to me that it is also a good bet

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November 27, 2022, 03:58:08 PM
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Selfishness in this discussion between those three great players has something to do with age and ambition. When Messi was younger, his ambition was much and everyone in the Barcelona team as if them was playing for him. He has achieved almost everything he wanted in his career apart from world cup and he is more than 30yrs old, he has no option than to be selfless.
Mbappe is a very young guy who is so ambitious and seeing future in himself. You don't blame him if he appears selfish sometimes.
Yes, you said something right when you said that Lionel Messi was widely supported by other players when he played at Barcelona. It's a different thing now when he plays for Paris Saint Germain. I saw that it was he who gave a lot of support to other players. Indeed, the age factor will change something different from his game when he was young and when he played as a senior.
The age factor actually changes many things in the life of footballers, especially when  you have achieved many things like Ronaldo and Messi and you are old, you will need  to calm down and work for others. But it is still depending on individual differences. Like Ronaldo has refused to understand he is old and need to support young players but instead he still want to be in the news always like someone who is struggling to break through

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November 27, 2022, 05:41:14 PM
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Try asking that question to those you see as selfish. Because Messi is never selfish and always wants to give his abilities for the team in all matches one hundred percent, but Messi also can't do much if he only moves alone to revive the team, while the others are only selfish by showing selfish attitudes. But I don't think that has anything to do with the world cup because when they are in the same team, they should forget about their own country's national team.
Selfishness in this discussion between those three great players has something to do with age and ambition. When Messi was younger, his ambition was much and everyone in the Barcelona team as if them was playing for him. He has achieved almost everything he wanted in his career apart from world cup and he is more than 30yrs old, he has no option than to be selfless.
Mbappe is a very young guy who is so ambitious and seeing future in himself. You don't blame him if he appears selfish sometimes.
selfishness always comes from the most wanted players, young and in top form and mbappe is in that phase. I also always follow the news about Messi and when he was still at Barca, he experienced that too but for now, he has changed and no longer shows selfishness. what I see, what Messi has not been able to achieve at the moment is to bring Argentina to win the world cup and bring PSG to win the UCL.
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November 27, 2022, 06:01:23 PM
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But, one thing is surely if PSG unable to have any positive result from this season then surely we are going to have big changes in coming months in PSG even management can put this club on sell as we already have few in English Premier League, but this one could be really sad.

PSG's owner won't sell the club if they can't win the Champions League, they dominate Ligue 1, they can keep making money as they are currently doing, just don't sign very expensive players that in the long run they will have a lot of profit, that since the beginning it has always been a long-term business, and if the owner of the team wants to make a profit, he needs to keep the team as it is today and win the European leagues with that same team, without spending too much on signings. messi has brought profits and good results in the team, mbappe will probably have a more inflated ego when he returns from qatar than before leaving paris

Yes, he was clearly mistaken, probably confused something. Bookmakers estimate the chances of PSG winning the Champions League as 8.5, which is about 12%. Even the favorite (City) has a much smaller chance of about 42%. I don't know what the team should show in order for it to have 70% chances. It's something completely nonsensical.
That's right what I mean because for opportunities like that obviously the advantage is very dominating and it's definitely not at PSG now especially at 70%.
Right now, even if you look at Bayern and PSG, I'll even look more at Bayern in the match, so you've mentioned that 12 percent of the chances of winning might still make sense in this case.
But btw I see the odds from now on for PSG and Bayern in their first leg match will be quite interesting because it is 2.41 for PSG and 2.9 for Bayern. any other thoughts on this?

The home game factor and the crowd factor that bet on big names (Mbappe, Neymar, Messi, etc.) forgetting that not names but teams play football. But bookmakers are obliged to insure their risks (more precisely, to give risk-free odds for themselves), so they give such odds. I think this is a good opportunity to bet on Bayern, it seems to me that they are the favorite even in the first game.

I won't bet on who will win, in a game between two great teams like these, I'd rather bet on BTTS or over 2.5 goals, or even bet that Bayern will score 2 goals, it seems to me to be less risky bets than betting on which team will win that one game, despite PSG not having a good record in the champions league, this season they have a new coach, they have a much better defense than the weak defense they had last season, that's why they have chances to beat bayern and bayern also has a good defensive performance in the champions league. so it would be possible to bet that PSG would not score many goals against bayern, it seems to me that it is also a good bet
PSG have always been the best in Ligue 1 and hopefully will be. They have great players in their squad, which no other club in League 1 has. PSG is the only richest club in Ligue 1. So their players are very expensive. I am sure that this time PSG will win the League 1 title.

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November 27, 2022, 06:39:23 PM
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If PSG does not win the Champions League title, I agree that a few things are about to change. There are a couple of significant players for PSG who will be departing the team and that is to be expected. In spite of the fact that the PSG have a very strong team, they can at times be very inconsistent when it comes to their performance. PSG needs to avoid those situations.
In addition, although all of the players are doing well individually, there does seem to be a lack of chemistry between a few of the players in the squad as a whole. As a result, a lot of problems can arise due to that. In the current season of League 1, Paris Saint-Germain is doing very well. We will have to wait and see if they are able to perform adequately in the Champions League.
I feel like there is an overreacting to UCL, it's not an easy cup to win and there shouldn't be a pressure on the players. In any case, Mbappe is very very young, he will still be playing football after Messi and Neymar retires, which means that we could see the owners building a whole team around him yet again and again, maybe get some other known players.

Like for example, everyone talks about Jude Bellingham going to premier league as an English player, what if PSG ends up paying him good money to go there? If they can build a team of players age 25 or under, to surround Mbappe with great talent, then even if they don't win now, they can win 5-6 years later with that roster.

Honestly, I do not think it is going to work well if they want to build a young team around Mbappé, because he is already feeling like he is the Prince Charming of the team. He also has authority over other players. So it is not going to work well because the other players will feel like they are not being treated equally. And meanwhile, Mbappe will keep disrespecting other players. If they actually build a team around him, I think The other players will suffer from an inferiority complex.

I think if they have to build a team around him, they should at least strip him of the power that they have given first. After all, he is a player, not someone in the authority.

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November 27, 2022, 07:02:02 PM
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Selfishness in this discussion between those three great players has something to do with age and ambition. When Messi was younger, his ambition was much and everyone in the Barcelona team as if them was playing for him. He has achieved almost everything he wanted in his career apart from world cup and he is more than 30yrs old, he has no option than to be selfless.
Mbappe is a very young guy who is so ambitious and seeing future in himself. You don't blame him if he appears selfish sometimes.
selfishness always comes from the most wanted players, young and in top form and mbappe is in that phase. I also always follow the news about Messi and when he was still at Barca, he experienced that too but for now, he has changed and no longer shows selfishness. what I see, what Messi has not been able to achieve at the moment is to bring Argentina to win the world cup and bring PSG to win the UCL.
Selfishness becomes a disease for young players. especially if the young player gets a star title and gets privileges that other players don't get. That can be said as the natural attitude of a player, if they don't overcome this then it will backfire on themselves. In other words, if they have high selfishness it will hinder their development.
As players, such an attitude should not exist in them or they should be able to suppress it so they don't show it. It is undeniable that a lot of negative narratives about Mbappe are the result of his own actions.
But slowly he was able to overcome this and that bodes well for him in the future. I hope he can really change his attitude which is detrimental to himself as well as detrimental to the club he defends.

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