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August 03, 2022, 09:48:34 AM
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It's 5 years back to this date, PSG carried Neymar to Ligue 1. It's to date the most costly 222M€ transfer in the history of football. As he most talented soccer player so most expensive transfer suite to him without question. However pundits condemn him exaggerated yet that sum sound great. There will be ups and down for every soccer player and he also going through same process but comes back more strongly. In pre-season his exhibition sufficiently nice, so we can accept he'll be in structure in this season and lift up a few major trophies.
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August 03, 2022, 09:57:27 AM
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It's 5 years back to this date, PSG carried Neymar to Ligue 1. It's to date the most costly 222M€ transfer in the history of football. As he most talented soccer player so most expensive transfer suite to him without question. However pundits condemn him exaggerated yet that sum sound great. There will be ups and down for every soccer player and he also going through same process but comes back more strongly. In pre-season his exhibition sufficiently nice, so we can accept he'll be in structure in this season and lift up a few major trophies.
What's the main trophy, because if it was only for the Ligue 1 title I think even without Neymar PSG would still be easy to get it. PSG's main target with such a luxurious squad is of course for the Champions League trophy but unfortunately, that target will not be easy because there are many other teams who also have the same target and even they also have a good squad. So the competition for the Champions League title is the main thing, but it still won't be easy even though they already have a lot of expensive players in it.

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August 03, 2022, 10:06:17 AM
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Messi transferred to an easy league. The French League is an arena where competition is lower than other European leagues. Messi got his career planning right. He will complete his aging period with more trophies in a more comfortable league. He couldn't have done the same performance so easily in Italy or England.
Maybe you are right and not. I won't compare Ligue 1 with another Europa League because there will be another situation where Ligue 1 is have something different from another one, Maybe Messi come to Paris because he wants to focus on his family, maybe he felt Paris is quite comfortable for his family and want to retire there where have something different in England or Italy, where have tight competition, busy, glamour, and Messi does not want to be there anymore.
Messi never come to Paris for his family or any other issue this was good offer from PSG, and he was having some issues in Barcelona, so there were on two choices one PSG and second Manchester City, so he has some good incentives from here he joins this club and now as Barcelona is having some good time now they are feeling they want Messi back in their team which is possible in 2023 because we already read Barcelona President announces they will give farewell to this legendary player mean now things are going to be normal, so they want him back in their team for one or two seasons which will give them better exposure if they have their desired results in this current season after investing good money in transfers and having few quality players from different teams.

Even nothing is sure how things could be after this season but most chances if he has no good result at PSG then surely he is going back to Barcelona for his final session in this soccer.

I second that Messi was forced to leave Barcelona and it wasn’t his choice to leave, and Manchester City had already spent $100 million on Grealish hence his only option was PSG. Furthermore Messi will have an option to stay for 2023 season at PSG, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he came back to Barcelona at a lower salary because we all know how much he loves Barcelona.
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August 03, 2022, 03:27:16 PM
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Quotes bookmakers to win in Ligue 1 at the moment are as follows:

Paris Saint Germain 1.10

Olympique Marseille 13.30

Lyon 14.10

Monaco 17.80

Is anyone interested in freezing their money for almost 10 months for a 10% return?  Grin It sounds cool for a bank deposit, but there are small risks here, so I would not do it. It is much easier to bet on PSG to win in individual games and increase the bet if they lose. It is unlikely that the losing/draw streak will be more than 3.
I would say there isn't really a small risk to be fair. I do not see how it is possible for anyone to see how PSG can't be the champions this year, they are by far the easiest bet to do. But, I am not doing that because I am waiting for a better return on my investment than 10%. If I was a person who was happy with just 10% then I would certainly pick this, it is clear as a day that PSG will win the title, but I know for a fact that bitcoin will go higher than 10% in 10 months and that is why I rather keep it in bitcoin.

But, if I ever find places that accept bitcoin payment and get 10% back in bitcoin, then why not? There are some like that, and it means not only I will profit from bitcoin going up, but I will get 10% premium on that.

Most of the bookmakers that are presented on this forum allow you to bet in bitcoin, so if you bet on PSG and it really becomes a champion, then you will get + 10% in bitcoin.
But personally, I'm not interested in such a bet. In addition to the fact that the return is small and the term is long, I believe that there is a risk that PSG will lose the championship, that is, it is not even a guaranteed 10%.

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August 03, 2022, 03:43:32 PM
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Quotes bookmakers to win in Ligue 1 at the moment are as follows:

Paris Saint Germain 1.10

Olympique Marseille 13.30

Lyon 14.10

Monaco 17.80

Is anyone interested in freezing their money for almost 10 months for a 10% return?  Grin It sounds cool for a bank deposit, but there are small risks here, so I would not do it. It is much easier to bet on PSG to win in individual games and increase the bet if they lose. It is unlikely that the losing/draw streak will be more than 3.

The risk involved is much compared to the profit you make if you bet on PSG to win the league. No one knows if Paris Saint-German is going to win the French league 1 back to back again or if we are going to witness change just like what happened last season in the Seria A where AC Milan did the unthinkable after many years of league trophy drought. I would rather take a big risk maybe with a small amount to bet on Olympique Marseille to win at 13.30 than betting on PSG to win with a big amount and less earnings  that will be so painful if PSG didn't win the league so It is not a good bet.

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August 03, 2022, 03:52:56 PM
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Leo Messi is in pursuit to break Dani Alves prime record as the most decorated player. Once again he have another titles to his gallery and still aiming to get more and the hunger for more titles on his mind. He was the man of the match yesterday against Nantes and did several attacking and possession of the ball. Leo Messi is highly respected and looked up to by most upcoming stars in football and the Argentine is catching up with age. However, I think there's still one last world cup for him to participate in.
 

Messi transferred to an easy league. The French League is an arena where competition is lower than other European leagues. Messi got his career planning right. He will complete his aging period with more trophies in a more comfortable league. He couldn't have done the same performance so easily in Italy or England.
If Messi had moved to England he might not have had so much trophies as compared to his chances of winning it back to back to back in the french league. but he wouldn't have ended a three years deal in England without lifting the trophy once i am too confident of he would have recreated Barcelona in England that is like a sure deal.
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August 03, 2022, 06:59:11 PM
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Yeah the main target with signing star players is for the Champions trophy I already realized, unfortunately last season Sergio Ramos rarely played due to injury, but now he will perform optimally under Galtier tutelage hopefully their health is good so they can go smoothly to trophy. Every match will be difficult in the Champions League, when the core squad gets injured.
He is still very much needed now despite his age but indeed when it comes to experience it is clear he has something more than some of the players there.
Sergio will probably still be in the same role as before I think unless Galtier has more fun for this player.
Sergio Ramos is still able to play in Europe's elite competition even though he is not young anymore, his experience while playing for Real Madrid can provide a balance in the PSG defense. Last season he spent a lot of time on the bench due to an injury, now he is ready to help PSG to protect PSG back line from attacks by opposing teams. Galtier can count on him in crucial matches, his presence at the back can provide motivation for PSG's young players, maybe he is not as strong as he used to be, but his experience can help PSG to achieve their goals this season.
This is not an exaggeration for Galtier especially if you see now in some of their pre-season matches Galtier has often played him with a three-back scheme with Marquinhos and Diallo as partners for Sergio.
This is a very good start for him but indeed he also has to be careful because his current age will definitely be a little different for his legs so fitness must be really maintained.

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August 03, 2022, 07:16:18 PM
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Messi transferred to an easy league. The French League is an arena where competition is lower than other European leagues. Messi got his career planning right. He will complete his aging period with more trophies in a more comfortable league. He couldn't have done the same performance so easily in Italy or England.
If Messi had moved to England he might not have had so much trophies as compared to his chances of winning it back to back to back in the french league. but he wouldn't have ended a three years deal in England without lifting the trophy once i am too confident of he would have recreated Barcelona in England that is like a sure deal.
It depends on which club Messi will move to, if he chooses Tottenham or Newcastle he will get nothing. But if Messi moves to Manchester City for a reunion with Guardiola, he can win the title even if he is only on the bench. But Messi will not move anywhere before his contract ends with PSG, he will continue to play and will get titles there. I think Messi will return to Barcelona after his job with PSG is over, he couldn't refuse Xavi offer to help him there. Barcelona has given everything for Messi, it is fitting for Messi to help Barcelona when they need his services.

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August 03, 2022, 07:19:14 PM
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.../Q/..,,,In the meantime Sergio Ramos is not having a good time in the club with series of injury and makes him unfit for games. The Spaniard needs more time to get fit since he's just adjusting his space to France pattern of game and he's definitely going to be better defense instrument for Christophe Galtier to make good use of.

Pride made him commit one of the worst mistakes that any player can make at the end of his career, humility, he is a mentally frustrated player, he had never before gone through a break of this magnitude, his wife had to Leaving behind his job and the comfort of living in his native country, for an established soccer player and franchise, is something that has to take its toll.

PSG will never have Sergio Ramos, whom we enjoy seeing play at Real Madrid, well hopefully not... Wink

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August 03, 2022, 07:35:02 PM
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It depends on which club Messi will move to, if he chooses Tottenham or Newcastle he will get nothing. But if Messi moves to Manchester City for a reunion with Guardiola, he can win the title even if he is only on the bench. But Messi will not move anywhere before his contract ends with PSG, he will continue to play and will get titles there. I think Messi will return to Barcelona after his job with PSG is over, he couldn't refuse Xavi offer to help him there. Barcelona has given everything for Messi, it is fitting for Messi to help Barcelona when they need his services.
If Messi had decided to move to England, there was only one team that can could have signed him, and that team is manchester city, messi could not have moved to tottenham or newcastle, they are not clubs of his status. I feel if messi had moved to any league he would have won trophies with the team, because he would surely move to a top team in that league, just as he came to France and signed for psg, if he went to England he would have signed for manchester city, if he went to Italy, he would have signed for Juve, these are teams that win their league titles often, though i will admit it is a little bit easier for psg to win it in France.

Barcelona president has said he thinks messi will return to barcelona one day, and i feel so too, but i don't think it is soon, he may return to barcelona when he is about to retire, so he can play for a year or so with them, and retire with the club he won everything with.

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Messi transferred to an easy league. The French League is an arena where competition is lower than other European leagues. Messi got his career planning right. He will complete his aging period with more trophies in a more comfortable league. He couldn't have done the same performance so easily in Italy or England.
If Messi had moved to England he might not have had so much trophies as compared to his chances of winning it back to back to back in the french league. but he wouldn't have ended a three years deal in England without lifting the trophy once i am too confident of he would have recreated Barcelona in England that is like a sure deal.
It depends on which club Messi will move to, if he chooses Tottenham or Newcastle he will get nothing. But if Messi moves to Manchester City for a reunion with Guardiola, he can win the title even if he is only on the bench. But Messi will not move anywhere before his contract ends with PSG, he will continue to play and will get titles there. I think Messi will return to Barcelona after his job with PSG is over, he couldn't refuse Xavi offer to help him there. Barcelona has given everything for Messi, it is fitting for Messi to help Barcelona when they need his services.

Messi is now 35. I don't think he will be fit for a Premier League team at the age of 37 after his contract with PSG ends. The Premier League is highly competitive. And if you want to perform well in the Premier League, you must be fit. Keeping fit at 37 years old is very difficult. I think Messi will extend his contract with PSG or join a Bundesliga team.

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August 03, 2022, 08:06:11 PM
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.../Q/..,,,In the meantime Sergio Ramos is not having a good time in the club with series of injury and makes him unfit for games. The Spaniard needs more time to get fit since he's just adjusting his space to France pattern of game and he's definitely going to be better defense instrument for Christophe Galtier to make good use of.
Pride made him commit one of the worst mistakes that any player can make at the end of his career, humility, he is a mentally frustrated player, he had never before gone through a break of this magnitude, his wife had to Leaving behind his job and the comfort of living in his native country, for an established soccer player and franchise, is something that has to take its toll.

PSG will never have Sergio Ramos, whom we enjoy seeing play at Real Madrid, well hopefully not... Wink

Sergio Ramos was the most renowned defender in the world in his prime. But now it feels like he is just a shadow of his former self. It feels like in PSG a lot of star players come with a big expectation but in reality, they are unable to perform as well as they should have.

If you look at Lionel Messi and Neymar, you will see that they have also not performed as expected. For some reason, it does appear like PSG is highly responsible for all these things happening. They are just trying to get elite players on the team but they are not thinking about that team chemistry or the chemistry between the players at all. They are not trying to make a balanced team.

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August 03, 2022, 08:56:23 PM
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Messi never come to Paris for his family or any other issue this was good offer from PSG, and he was having some issues in Barcelona, so there were on two choices one PSG and second Manchester City, so he has some good incentives from here he joins this club and now as Barcelona is having some good time now they are feeling they want Messi back in their team which is possible in 2023 because we already read Barcelona President announces they will give farewell to this legendary player mean now things are going to be normal, so they want him back in their team for one or two seasons which will give them better exposure if they have their desired results in this current season after investing good money in transfers and having few quality players from different teams.

Even nothing is sure how things could be after this season but most chances if he has no good result at PSG then surely he is going back to Barcelona for his final session in this soccer.
I second that Messi was forced to leave Barcelona and it wasn’t his choice to leave, and Manchester City had already spent $100 million on Grealish hence his only option was PSG. Furthermore Messi will have an option to stay for 2023 season at PSG, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he came back to Barcelona at a lower salary because we all know how much he loves Barcelona.
I think City deal was never a real deal, not because of Grealish because that was 100 million spent on the transfer, not on the player and Messi came in free, just took a salary and they could have paid him and then sold 2x more than that just on jerseys, probably more. This is why I believe that it should be PSG and he should stay until he retires, and I think if they keep on winning just the league, dude may get bored of it and retire earlier than he should.

This is a hard situation to be in, be with a team for over 20 years and then suddenly you are like a fish out of water when you move to another team specially at that age. Hence I think he will probably not change it again so soon.
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August 03, 2022, 09:07:01 PM
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.../Q/..,,,In the meantime Sergio Ramos is not having a good time in the club with series of injury and makes him unfit for games. The Spaniard needs more time to get fit since he's just adjusting his space to France pattern of game and he's definitely going to be better defense instrument for Christophe Galtier to make good use of.
Pride made him commit one of the worst mistakes that any player can make at the end of his career, humility, he is a mentally frustrated player, he had never before gone through a break of this magnitude, his wife had to Leaving behind his job and the comfort of living in his native country, for an established soccer player and franchise, is something that has to take its toll.

PSG will never have Sergio Ramos, whom we enjoy seeing play at Real Madrid, well hopefully not... Wink

Sergio Ramos was the most renowned defender in the world in his prime. But now it feels like he is just a shadow of his former self. It feels like in PSG a lot of star players come with a big expectation but in reality, they are unable to perform as well as they should have.

If you look at Lionel Messi and Neymar, you will see that they have also not performed as expected. For some reason, it does appear like PSG is highly responsible for all these things happening. They are just trying to get elite players on the team but they are not thinking about that team chemistry or the chemistry between the players at all. They are not trying to make a balanced team.

That's right, but the case of Ramos has its particular dyes.

 In the case of chemistry, very true and I have always believed, keeping the distance in terms of players, the team from the beginning of the century, the Galactics with Luís Figo, Ronaldo (Bra), Zinedine Zidane and David Beckham... I think they are looking for that chemistry but It does not finish arriving, by the way those galactic ones did win titles.

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Messi is now 35. I don't think he will be fit for a Premier League team at the age of 37 after his contract with PSG ends. The Premier League is highly competitive. And if you want to perform well in the Premier League, you must be fit. Keeping fit at 37 years old is very difficult. I think Messi will extend his contract with PSG or join a Bundesliga team.
Right now, as things are going most chances we will have Messi here at PSG until end of his career or very few chances Barcelona will try to bring him back for his farewell which was not happened in last season when the transfer happened there is no chance for him to go into Premier League or any other league because at the end of this contract he is going to be 37 which is surely age when mostly players decide about their retirement and their body is not also they have at their best on all players can go through like Zlatan Ibrahimović who is giving his best at the age of 40.

Messi is going to be vital for PSG in this season because here management is also doing some good developments which can bring better results for them and this could be vital for all parties in coming days.

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I felt Lyon did underperformed last season and their defense was quite horrible, Lyon did not made any huge transfer in the transfer market and I think they might struggle against AC Ajaccio in their first match for the upcoming new season. Even though Lyon will be having the home advantage when they play against AC Ajaccio but I think there is a chance for this match to ends up with a draw.

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August 03, 2022, 10:56:13 PM
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There is only one day left for the league to start again finally. We are starting the season with the Lyon - Ajaccio game. Ajaccio are one of the new teams in the league this season. They have promoted to the Ligue 1 by finishing the Ligue 2 at the second position in the standings. This kind of teams tend to make some surprises in their first seasons actually. Therefore Lyon had better be careful against them and not underestimate them. Lacazette is back at Lyon as well by the way and I'm curious how he will perform. I think Lyon would start with a victory.

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August 04, 2022, 02:03:35 AM
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Maybe you are right and not. I won't compare Ligue 1 with another Europa League because there will be another situation where Ligue 1 is have something different from another one, Maybe Messi come to Paris because he wants to focus on his family, maybe he felt Paris is quite comfortable for his family and want to retire there where have something different in England or Italy, where have tight competition, busy, glamour, and Messi does not want to be there anymore.
Messi never come to Paris for his family or any other issue this was good offer from PSG, and he was having some issues in Barcelona, so there were on two choices one PSG and second Manchester City, so he has some good incentives from here he joins this club and now as Barcelona is having some good time now they are feeling they want Messi back in their team which is possible in 2023 because we already read Barcelona President announces they will give farewell to this legendary player mean now things are going to be normal, so they want him back in their team for one or two seasons which will give them better exposure if they have their desired results in this current season after investing good money in transfers and having few quality players from different teams.

Even nothing is sure how things could be after this season but most chances if he has no good result at PSG then surely he is going back to Barcelona for his final session in this soccer.
That is my assumption as another factor besides that. I know that Barcelona has had a financial problem before so Barce leaves Messi for PSG. We know that Messi is also interesting in another club, but he has chosen PSG, so maybe Paris really looks comfortable for his family. And about coming back to Barcelona, nothing for impossible, As Ronaldo comes back to MU, Messi may also come back to camp nou, but of course with his (old) age also.

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August 04, 2022, 04:47:04 AM
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There is only one day left for the league to start again finally. We are starting the season with the Lyon - Ajaccio game. Ajaccio are one of the new teams in the league this season. They have promoted to the Ligue 1 by finishing the Ligue 2 at the second position in the standings. This kind of teams tend to make some surprises in their first seasons actually. Therefore Lyon had better be careful against them and not underestimate them. Lacazette is back at Lyon as well by the way and I'm curious how he will perform. I think Lyon would start with a victory.
Lyon want to improve their position on standings league this season and that's why they get several players in this transfer window to strengthen their squad and besides Lacazette they get Corentin Tolisso from Bayern Munich and Nicolás Tagliafico from Ajax and tomorrow against promotion team Ajaccio on the paper they should be win but if we compare to Lyon pre season tour i think they hasn't too impressive even several times lose with big score with Willem 5-0 and lose from Anderlecht 3-0

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August 04, 2022, 05:07:47 AM
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Messi is now 35. I don't think he will be fit for a Premier League team at the age of 37 after his contract with PSG ends. The Premier League is highly competitive. And if you want to perform well in the Premier League, you must be fit. Keeping fit at 37 years old is very difficult. I think Messi will extend his contract with PSG or join a Bundesliga team.
Right now, as things are going most chances we will have Messi here at PSG until end of his career or very few chances Barcelona will try to bring him back for his farewell which was not happened in last season when the transfer happened there is no chance for him to go into Premier League or any other league because at the end of this contract he is going to be 37 which is surely age when mostly players decide about their retirement and their body is not also they have at their best on all players can go through like Zlatan Ibrahimović who is giving his best at the age of 40.

Messi is going to be vital for PSG in this season because here management is also doing some good developments which can bring better results for them and this could be vital for all parties in coming days.

Messi may decide to move to Barcelona and announce his retirement while at Barcelona. But Barcelona is unable to pay Messi high wages now. So considering the aspect of wages, only considering the aspect of love and loyalty, Messi should go to Barcelona.
Next season is very important for Messi. PSG and Messi's aim is to win the Champions League title. At the same time, Mbappe wants to win the first Champions League of his career. Hopefully we will see more balanced gameplay from PSG next season.

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