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August 24, 2022, 12:39:13 PM
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The 1-7 PSG victory is ordinary because they have a team that has world class players. If PSG cannot score 7 goals when Lille has lost enthusiasm in the match, then it is in vain to have a MMN trio. I do not intend to underestimate PSG and Ligue 1, but in Spain (La Liga) and in England (Premier League) the big score is rare, because all teams can provide resistance, even the team at the bottom of the standings can beat the ranking team at the standings.
Ligue 1 teams are relatively less powerful than La Liga and Premier League. However, Lille is not a weak team. Lille was the Ligue 1 champion in the 2020-21 season. Scoring 7 goals against such a renowned team were not easy. PSG played very well. They scored in the first minute of the match. Maybe PSG won't be able to score 7 goals against any Premier League or La Liga team. But if PSG are able to maintain such consistent performance, they are capable of defeating any strong team.
If so, we can also equate great teams outside Europe. They can also beat Europe's great teams if they are able to maintain a consistent performance.
I know that Lille is not a weak team, but the players in the PSG squad are not comparable to the average players in the Ligue 1 squad. Logically, PSG are able to score more than 4 goals when they face other teams in Ligue 1 although on the field luck factor also affects the results.

The PSG versus Lille Match is over and as expected PSG won the match very easily. The score was 7-1 at the end of the match. Kylian Mbappé scored a Hattrick, Neymar scored a brace and Messi scored one goal. The defender Achraf Hakimi also scored one goal. This was a really good performance from PSG. But if I have to nitpick I am going to say they could have done better on the defensive side. But on the attacking side, there is no problem right now. I am glad to see Kylian Mbappé understand that he is a player and not above the team. That is why I think the team is starting to work well. And obviously, the arrival of a new coach for PSG also did well for their performance. Just look at how they started the last season and how they have started the season.

I don’t mean to be rude but if PSG player’s get over confidence by winning against Ligue 1 team’s then they’ll epically fail in champions league matches, and thus they should use these league matches as a practise session to try new tactics that can serve them well in the champions league.

Furthermore the only time we can see some other team challenging them is when a big investor buys a team in this league, and spends crazy money to beat them but until that happens PSG is going to win this league without much resistance.
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August 24, 2022, 01:34:48 PM
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I don’t mean to be rude but if PSG player’s get over confidence by winning against Ligue 1 team’s then they’ll epically fail in champions league matches, and thus they should use these league matches as a practise session to try new tactics that can serve them well in the champions league.

Furthermore the only time we can see some other team challenging them is when a big investor buys a team in this league, and spends crazy money to beat them but until that happens PSG is going to win this league without much resistance.

Big investors for other teams are about the Premier League, but here in Ligue 1, no one will dare to do this, because what's the point? They will have to invest a lot of money, even a very lot of money just to win Ligue 1? It's not prestigious, no one will do it, big investors will go to strong leagues to feel the full taste of victory. And PSG can beat teams in Ligue 1 by scoring 5 or even 10 goals in each game, the championship will not become more interesting from this.

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August 24, 2022, 01:39:06 PM
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Exactly, they have to prove themselves first by facing a club that has the same level as them. That way we can conclude whether their game can compete if they are in a more difficult competition or not. Because if you look at the match here (Ligue 1) it is clear they are able to do well, although their internal problems still cannot be resolved. And I think, even if one of their star players is absent they will still perform like that.
Just wait for them to appear in the Champions League against other big clubs, although the atmosphere is different it can at least prove the depth of the squad that PSG has. If you look at PSG who always fail in the Champions League, Ligue 1 can be said to be a livestock league because there is no team that can provide competition to PSG. Maybe for that reason players who join Ligue 1 clubs are less popular than players who compete in the Premier League or La Liga.

So, then what is the difference with Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga, with reference to SPG which always fails in the Champions League, then that's why the club management and Galtier are trying to upgrade their players, by bringing in some new players, especially in defense and midfield positions, because in the attacking position, they already have a trio of MNM who have proven their prowess.

I believe, IF, spg don't have drama problems like what happened in the locker room, they can and it's not impossible to beat other big european clubs competing in the champions league.
let's just wait for them to appear in the champions league against other big clubs.

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August 24, 2022, 01:52:44 PM
Last edit: August 26, 2022, 11:21:09 AM by ILuckyGuyI
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The Ligue 1 isn't at the same level as the biggest leagues like the EPL, La Liga etc.. It has still a long way to go to reach there. The reason is of course that the Ligue 1 can't attract sponsorships as much as those leagues. As a result, it doesn't have a total revenue as much as them also.

The graph below shows the revenues of European leagues from the 1996/97 season to the 2021/22 season. We can clearly see that the Ligue 1 has always been behind the other top four leagues. PSG's domination in the recent years has made the league even more boring. We should be seeing more strong teams in this league to increase the attention of people to this league. People like to watch the Premier League for example because there are many solid teams and there are quite a lot of skilled players at the same time. The competition level is very high as a result.



The source: https://www.statista.com/statistics/261218/big-five-european-soccer-leagues-revenue/

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August 24, 2022, 01:56:22 PM
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So, then what is the difference with Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga, with reference to SPG which always fails in the Champions League, then that's why the club management and Galtier are trying to upgrade their players, by bringing in some new players, especially in defense and midfield positions, because in the attacking position, they already have a trio of MNM who have proven their prowess.

I believe, IF, spg don't have drama problems like what happened in the locker room, they can and it's not impossible to beat other big european clubs competing in the champions league.
let's just wait for them to appear in the champions league against other big clubs.
At least Bayern Munich has proven its toughness on the European stage, Munich has something that PSG does not have, namely a winning mentality on the European stage.
PSG failure in the Champions League always raises a big question mark, what's wrong with PSG. They already have a very good squad when compared to other teams, players who defend PSG have also lifted the Champions League trophy several times.
This season PSG again dominates Ligue 1, we'll see how far PSG can go in the Champions League.

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August 24, 2022, 02:49:40 PM
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So, then what is the difference with Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga, with reference to SPG which always fails in the Champions League, then that's why the club management and Galtier are trying to upgrade their players, by bringing in some new players, especially in defense and midfield positions, because in the attacking position, they already have a trio of MNM who have proven their prowess.
I believe, IF, spg don't have drama problems like what happened in the locker room, they can and it's not impossible to beat other big european clubs competing in the champions league.
let's just wait for them to appear in the champions league against other big clubs.
At least Bayern Munich has proven its toughness on the European stage, Munich has something that PSG does not have, namely a winning mentality on the European stage.
PSG failure in the Champions League always raises a big question mark, what's wrong with PSG. They already have a very good squad when compared to other teams, players who defend PSG have also lifted the Champions League trophy several times.
This season PSG again dominates Ligue 1, we'll see how far PSG can go in the Champions League.

PSG's squad now has several players who are too experienced for a platform like the Champions League. But PSG coach Galtier has no Champions League experience. But Messi and Ramos are too experienced for the Champions League. I think we will see a more organized PSG team next season.

Bayern Munich is a very renowned team. They form strong squads every season. The performance of their players is quite stable as their match strategy does not change much. So they can continue to perform consistently well in Bundesliga and Champions League.

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August 24, 2022, 03:00:51 PM
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From the results of this match, it shows that from season to season the team's strength can change and all of them have a training process to create good strength, so PSG have shown that their teamwork is still the best in Liga 1. From 2019 until now "PSG" no team has ever been able to beat.
Teamwork deserves to be appreciated but is that the real reason PSG won big?
I don't think so, because actually there are many teams that have even better cooperation than PSG in Ligue1, but in fact PSG seems to be more dominant than other teams, you know why?
Because actually the quality of the squad owned by PSG does not have commensurate opponents in ligue 1, other teams have good cooperation but indeed their finances do not support them at all to buy players and build them like PSG did, with the existing player materials such as right now, no matter how good the cooperation of the opposing team, it certainly can't do anything if agains PSG in my opinion.

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August 24, 2022, 03:27:00 PM
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Big investors for other teams are about the Premier League, but here in Ligue 1, no one will dare to do this, because what's the point? They will have to invest a lot of money, even a very lot of money just to win Ligue 1? It's not prestigious, no one will do it, big investors will go to strong leagues to feel the full taste of victory. And PSG can beat teams in Ligue 1 by scoring 5 or even 10 goals in each game, the championship will not become more interesting from this.
Still not have big investor want to buy or invest with Ligue 1 team except PSG only because less values and not really popular with Ligue 1 compare other competition like Primer League or La Liga and Serie A. After several years acquisition with PSG until right now still not have new bigger investor want to make Ligue 1 become competitive league. I think without popular exactly there are not have much money and make several investor not really excited with Ligue 1 competition. Keep label as farmer league with Ligue because until several years later PSG as the king of Ligue 1, have healthy financial and always dominance with several star player on their team squad, different with other Ligue 1 participants.

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August 24, 2022, 03:42:31 PM
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Remember how Porto won the Champions League in the 2003-2004 season? Who says they are star-studded team with good financial conditions. But teamwork has made them win the title back then.



So apart from strategy, squad depth and collaboration between players are the reasons why these teams won the Champions League title. Solid cooperation, having good players are things that will support this team to achieve success in a competition. So if PSG want to win titles, then they have to have some of those things in my opinion.

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August 24, 2022, 04:52:25 PM
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The PSG versus Lille Match is over and as expected PSG won the match very easily. The score was 7-1 at the end of the match. Kylian Mbappé scored a Hattrick, Neymar scored a brace and Messi scored one goal. The defender Achraf Hakimi also scored one goal. This was a really good performance from PSG. But if I have to nitpick I am going to say they could have done better on the defensive side. But on the attacking side, there is no problem right now. I am glad to see Kylian Mbappé understand that he is a player and not above the team. That is why I think the team is starting to work well. And obviously, the arrival of a new coach for PSG also did well for their performance. Just look at how they started the last season and how they have started the season.
I don’t mean to be rude but if PSG player’s get over confidence by winning against Ligue 1 team’s then they’ll epically fail in champions league matches, and thus they should use these league matches as a practise session to try new tactics that can serve them well in the champions league.
Furthermore the only time we can see some other team challenging them is when a big investor buys a team in this league, and spends crazy money to beat them but until that happens PSG is going to win this league without much resistance.

The situation of PSG is absolutely the same as Bayern Munich. Both of them don’t have any good competition in their own respective league and that is a big reason why they don’t prepare well for the Champions League. If you don’t prepare well by playing against a better opponent, you will not be able to perform well when those better opponents will be put in front of you. The whole season these two teams play against childish teams compared to them and then people expect them to do well in the Champions League. That is really funny to me Cheesy.
I mean there is a reason why most of the successful teams in the Champions League last time were teams from the English Premier League and La Liga.

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Big investors for other teams are about the Premier League, but here in Ligue 1, no one will dare to do this, because what's the point? They will have to invest a lot of money, even a very lot of money just to win Ligue 1? It's not prestigious, no one will do it, big investors will go to strong leagues to feel the full taste of victory. And PSG can beat teams in Ligue 1 by scoring 5 or even 10 goals in each game, the championship will not become more interesting from this.
Still not have big investor want to buy or invest with Ligue 1 team except PSG only because less values and not really popular with Ligue 1 compare other competition like Primer League or La Liga and Serie A. After several years acquisition with PSG until right now still not have new bigger investor want to make Ligue 1 become competitive league. I think without popular exactly there are not have much money and make several investor not really excited with Ligue 1 competition. Keep label as farmer league with Ligue because until several years later PSG as the king of Ligue 1, have healthy financial and always dominance with several star player on their team squad, different with other Ligue 1 participants.
As we all looking currently this Ligue 1 is completely dominant by PSG and no other club is in good shape in quality and finances because they have not enough marketing sources for this which are most important if you want investors and English Premier League is at top in this with their many aspects here in France Sports Authorities need to check few issues and they surely they need to improve quality of French League if they want some big investors right now situation is not ideal as they have no good return of their investment, and it's not prestigious like The FA Cup or Premier League.

Now as technology is spreading they also can do much better than current situation and bring some good investors, but they want better return to have some good aspect which help them for having quality results and other few things in this league.

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August 24, 2022, 07:12:13 PM
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So apart from strategy, squad depth and collaboration between players are the reasons why these teams won the Champions League title. Solid cooperation, having good players are things that will support this team to achieve success in a competition. So if PSG want to win titles, then they have to have some of those things in my opinion.

You have indicated a good point there.

Having a solid relationship between the players is very important and a key factor in reaching a big success. I would also like to give an example for that from the EPL. You must be remembering the magical season Leicester had with Ranieri. The players were playing very coherently and dedicatedly. This brought them a very deserved league title as a result. Maybe they couldn't even get close to that later on but you've got my point.  Grin

Coming back to PSG, there have been some disagreements between Mbappe and Neymar for example. If these two don't make an effort to break the ice completely then PSG can have another failure in the Champions League. But the recent performances of these players make me think like they are getting better mentally as time goes on.

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August 24, 2022, 07:24:41 PM
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Coming back to PSG, there have been some disagreements between Mbappe and Neymar for example. If these two don't make an effort to break the ice completely then PSG can have another failure in the Champions League. But the recent performances of these players make me think like they are getting better mentally as time goes on.
The issue of the split that occurred between Mbappe and Neymar was quite strong circulating some time ago, but I think before the match against Lille,  Galtier might have been able to defuse the conflict, so that in the match against Lille, Neymar and Mbappe can work well together, I think even though it looks like PSG game quite compact after the clash between Mbappe and Neymar of course Galtier should be able to make this group of star players still work together in a team and especialy I think Galtier be should be able to suppress mbappe ego at this time.

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August 24, 2022, 07:42:42 PM
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I don’t mean to be rude but if PSG player’s get over confidence by winning against Ligue 1 team’s then they’ll epically fail in champions league matches, and thus they should use these league matches as a practise session to try new tactics that can serve them well in the champions league.

Furthermore the only time we can see some other team challenging them is when a big investor buys a team in this league, and spends crazy money to beat them but until that happens PSG is going to win this league without much resistance.
That's literally their problem. The "way" they play against Ligue 1 teams end up with a comfortable wins like 7-1 we just saw, but the reality is that if they play the same way against other teams then they are going to have a huge upset for sure without a doubt. This is why I believe that they needed a better coach and Zidane was right there and they couldn't get him.

I get that he may not want to, but if you paid him a lot then there wouldn't be any person who could say no. In the long run, they will lose in UCL again because they will get overconfidence with these type of wins in Ligue 1 and they will be shocked when they can't beat better teams in UCL the same way.

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August 24, 2022, 07:44:00 PM
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Big investors for other teams are about the Premier League, but here in Ligue 1, no one will dare to do this, because what's the point? They will have to invest a lot of money, even a very lot of money just to win Ligue 1? It's not prestigious, no one will do it, big investors will go to strong leagues to feel the full taste of victory. And PSG can beat teams in Ligue 1 by scoring 5 or even 10 goals in each game, the championship will not become more interesting from this.
Still not have big investor want to buy or invest with Ligue 1 team except PSG only because less values and not really popular with Ligue 1 compare other competition like Primer League or La Liga and Serie A. After several years acquisition with PSG until right now still not have new bigger investor want to make Ligue 1 become competitive league. I think without popular exactly there are not have much money and make several investor not really excited with Ligue 1 competition. Keep label as farmer league with Ligue because until several years later PSG as the king of Ligue 1, have healthy financial and always dominance with several star player on their team squad, different with other Ligue 1 participants.
As we all looking currently this Ligue 1 is completely dominant by PSG and no other club is in good shape in quality and finances because they have not enough marketing sources for this which are most important if you want investors and English Premier League is at top in this with their many aspects here in France Sports Authorities need to check few issues and they surely they need to improve quality of French League if they want some big investors right now situation is not ideal as they have no good return of their investment, and it's not prestigious like The FA Cup or Premier League.
Now as technology is spreading they also can do much better than current situation and bring some good investors, but they want better return to have some good aspect which help them for having quality results and other few things in this league.

@Cryptmuster, There are some really good players in the PSG squad. It's interesting to note that they also had a very good squad last time, but they weren't able to do very well.
Evidently, they had some issues when it came to the authority. PSG had a very good coach, but the coach was not a good fit for the caliber of the team they were. However, they have started the season well this year. In addition to that, the new coach seems to be able to work well with the team as well. It is therefore expected that PSG will perform better than they did last year.
It is clear to me that they are going to win the title of Ligue 1. Is it likely that they will be able to win the Champions League this year? That is the bigger question, isn’t it?

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August 24, 2022, 08:37:32 PM
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Coming back to PSG, there have been some disagreements between Mbappe and Neymar for example. If these two don't make an effort to break the ice completely then PSG can have another failure in the Champions League. But the recent performances of these players make me think like they are getting better mentally as time goes on.
The issue of the split that occurred between Mbappe and Neymar was quite strong circulating some time ago, but I think before the match against Lille,  Galtier might have been able to defuse the conflict, so that in the match against Lille, Neymar and Mbappe can work well together, I think even though it looks like PSG game quite compact after the clash between Mbappe and Neymar of course Galtier should be able to make this group of star players still work together in a team and especialy I think Galtier be should be able to suppress mbappe ego at this time.
In fact they have always been at loggerheads even from last season but they can still get back together to this day.
Actually this is quite natural to happen when two big players are put together with their egos still high there will definitely be a spark like this, but as long as it doesn't interfere with their performance I think it's not too much of a problem because they also know when they are a player they are seen by millions of eyes. must be professional in this matter.

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August 24, 2022, 09:23:03 PM
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I don’t mean to be rude but if PSG player’s get over confidence by winning against Ligue 1 team’s then they’ll epically fail in champions league matches, and thus they should use these league matches as a practise session to try new tactics that can serve them well in the champions league.

Furthermore the only time we can see some other team challenging them is when a big investor buys a team in this league, and spends crazy money to beat them but until that happens PSG is going to win this league without much resistance.
That's literally their problem. The "way" they play against Ligue 1 teams end up with a comfortable wins like 7-1 we just saw, but the reality is that if they play the same way against other teams then they are going to have a huge upset for sure without a doubt. This is why I believe that they needed a better coach and Zidane was right there and they couldn't get him.

I get that he may not want to, but if you paid him a lot then there wouldn't be any person who could say no. In the long run, they will lose in UCL again because they will get overconfidence with these type of wins in Ligue 1 and they will be shocked when they can't beat better teams in UCL the same way.

We should stick to the facts here. Did PSG over the last years epically fail in the Champions League? In my opinion they clearly didn't. They have delivered amazing fights against all the top teams. It usually never was going to be an obvious loss. Just last season they delivered an epic fight against Real Madrid and Madrid was lucky enough to land the lucky punch and make it to the next round.

Generally I agree with you and I think it might make PSG miss out on some percentage points regarding their concentration over 90 minutes when you play against opponents that are just way weaker than you. But still I would consider PSG a serious competitor the the title. If they meet Real in the final round again, would you just bet on Real and believe it is a guaranteed win? No way, PSG can definitely beat the big ones. But for the sake of Ligue 1 being more interesting to people it would be much better if there were better teams besides PSG of course.

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August 24, 2022, 11:33:46 PM
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I get that PSG is a great team and they are doing as well as hoped for. But when they score in 7th second then it becomes a bit of a problem. I mean it is not going to be something that we can't really see again, they are so good that I think it could even happen again, maybe not 7th second but like 20th second next time who knows?

What I really want to believe is that we are talking about something that is quite uncommon with how powerful they are compared to rest of the league, them and Bayern, that's it. These teams are not doing it on some low level out of top 50 league, they are doing it on one of the best leagues in the world and they are unfairly good against everyone else without any shred of doubt.
I just think that number of goals are possible because it is French league 1 and not EPL.These are one of the reasons I continue saying the EPL is the toughest league in the world.I don't see that happening in the premier league,because no team is small in the premier league,immagaine when Newcastle drew the EPL champions over the weekend,and they would have won that match if not that Mancity strougled to equalise their goals.Leeds defeated Chelsea 3-0 too over the weekend,this is to show you that English premier league is so tough that you can't score that number of goals against any team.
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August 25, 2022, 12:45:10 AM
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Coming back to PSG, there have been some disagreements between Mbappe and Neymar for example. If these two don't make an effort to break the ice completely then PSG can have another failure in the Champions League. But the recent performances of these players make me think like they are getting better mentally as time goes on.
The issue of the split that occurred between Mbappe and Neymar was quite strong circulating some time ago, but I think before the match against Lille,  Galtier might have been able to defuse the conflict, so that in the match against Lille, Neymar and Mbappe can work well together, I think even though it looks like PSG game quite compact after the clash between Mbappe and Neymar of course Galtier should be able to make this group of star players still work together in a team and especialy I think Galtier be should be able to suppress mbappe ego at this time.
It becomes a problem for them that must be resolved immediately. But I feel that even though the discord between the players seems to have improved, there will still be a similar dispute ahead. For some reason, seeing the selfishness between Paris Saint Germain players feels thick and very difficult to remove. This has to be resolved on its own, meaning the players concerned must be aware of their mistakes that cost the team.

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August 25, 2022, 01:11:57 AM
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We should stick to the facts here. Did PSG over the last years epically fail in the Champions League? In my opinion they clearly didn't. They have delivered amazing fights against all the top teams. It usually never was going to be an obvious loss. Just last season they delivered an epic fight against Real Madrid and Madrid was lucky enough to land the lucky punch and make it to the next round.
In fact, PSG always fails in the knockout round which means the team still has a problem with mentality even having a player who often plays in that round, In reality, Messi and friends can't apply it on PSG despite getting the title on the previous club. So, I believe the problem is just coordination and mental club, if PSG can do in Ligue 1 so I think will not problem to do also in the champions league if the squad reduces self of interest.

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