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November 24, 2022, 07:33:26 PM
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The Ligue 1 continues to lose its magic as long as one team continues to dominate the league every season on one hand. This is really frustrating to me and it is like the same with the Bundesliga now. I'm also wishing to see a different champion in the Ligue 1 more often.

When Lille made it to the title it was a really special season for me. They were in a fierce fight with PSG in that season despite the huge quality difference considering their squads. But the team effort by Lille was much higher there. PSG were somehow making really simple point losses. But now there is no such thing at all. Especially after they have completed the trio of Mbappe - Messi - Neymar, things are much easier for them.

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November 24, 2022, 07:56:42 PM
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This season is also no guarantee for them because Bayern Munich will be the toughest challenge to beat.
You never can tell but judging from our own perspectives, this sport called football comes with surprises, nobody believed Chelsea F.C were going to win the champions league when Thomas Tuchel took over from Lampard. They surprised the world by winning the champions league, so saying Bayern Munich being the favorite I doubt it, PSG have not be lucky in the champions league but if it's their time to win it then I don't see any team stopping them not even Bayern Munich. But lets hope all the players comes back from the world cup injury free and lets see how the seconds phase of the champions league and the French League will go.         

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November 24, 2022, 09:12:21 PM
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When Lille made it to the title it was a really special season for me. They were in a fierce fight with PSG in that season despite the huge quality difference considering their squads. But the team effort by Lille was much higher there. PSG were somehow making really simple point losses. But now there is no such thing at all. Especially after they have completed the trio of Mbappe - Messi - Neymar, things are much easier for them.

PSG will not repeat the same mistakes. PSG's target this season is the Champions League. But for this they do not consider Ligue 1 matches any less important. They have continued to perform consistently well in every Ligue 1 match. Especially in every big team and important match PSG is performing well. PSG will definitely win the Ligue 1 title this season.
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November 25, 2022, 01:17:24 AM
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Nothing can guarantee a title even with star players and if you notice, strong teams in other leagues like Bayern Munich have even won the Bundesliga title for ten consecutive seasons. But what happened to them in the Champions League? Even during the period of ten successive titles by Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga, Bayern Munich could only win two Champions League titles during that period of ten seasons.
So, a strong team in the local league and also the star players on the team will never guarantee that they can win the Champions League title.

Even more so with PSG, because if PSG is compared to Bayern Munich with successive achievements in the local league, then in reality PSG is still not comparable. In fact, when compared with the successive Ligue 1 titles won, PSG still cannot surpass Lyon's consecutive wins, because Lyon has won the Ligue 1 title for seven consecutive seasons.
At least on a record like this PSG still doesn't have an impressive record, so naturally PSG is still difficult to win the Ligue 1 title.

Because only star players are still not enough if their management is still not completely good, and you can see how Manchester City was built by a famous coach like Pep Guardiola.
In fact Manchester City has good management, coaches, players and other resources but they still fail in Champions League. So what is happening with PSG is still reasonable for me, and of course they still need time and I am sure that one day they will achieve high achievements in the Champions League.

I know that nothing is certain. If however, PSG is not able to bring home the Champions League Trophy, which is the ultimate goal of everyone involved with PSG, what is the point of spending so much money? Just to win the Ligue 1 title?

I know that it is obviously challenging work to bring in trophies. It is very easy to sit at home and write about something. It is extremely difficult to achieve that Trophy on the field. Despite this, the frustrations of people would not have been sparked if PSG actually performed the way they should. PSG has often lost easy matches which they should have won. That is really unexpected and unacceptable.

And I agree that just bringing in star players is not going to be enough. They have to be someone who can actually impose authority over the star players on the team.

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November 25, 2022, 01:28:27 AM
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I know that nothing is certain. If however, PSG is not able to bring home the Champions League Trophy, which is the ultimate goal of everyone involved with PSG, what is the point of spending so much money? Just to win the Ligue 1 title?
Champions League is certainly a biggest target of any player in club career. For star players who accept big salary deals from PSG, they join the club with intention to win Champions League definitely.

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I know that it is obviously challenging work to bring in trophies. It is very easy to sit at home and write about something. It is extremely difficult to achieve that Trophy on the field. Despite this, the frustrations of people would not have been sparked if PSG actually performed the way they should. PSG has often lost easy matches which they should have won. That is really unexpected and unacceptable.
They should win those matches if they did not make terrible personal mistakes. However, one player can make mistakes but others should cover him and bring PSG to a final win. At least, one mistake causes one conceded goals and it is not the end for PSG in a single match. In some matches, they even have too big difference in aggregated result but they wasted it very easy.

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And I agree that just bringing in star players is not going to be enough. They have to be someone who can actually impose authority over the star players on the team.
Club's history is important because it will help their players have belief in history and increase their mentality in important matches. It is what PSG currently is lack of but history is made by players, coaches and others with time. PSG has to make their history in Champions League that is not easy before they can win a first title there.

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Surely here we all know most of the players love to have big achievements like Champions League which is surely one of the most prestigious in UEFA and world it's dream of every team and player in UEFA and right now PSG is also doing their best for achieving this title but sadly have no positive end for the many years and right now its surely matter of the honour for players like Neymar and Mbappé if they achieve this as soon as possible.

With as we are reading and having things on social media this season is very important for many players here in PSG if they are not able to win this then surely we can expect things could be change even we can expect change of management as well because recently we already have few big clubs to sell from their owners due to inner failures.

If PSG does not win the Champions League title, I agree that a few things are about to change. There are a couple of significant players for PSG who will be departing the team and that is to be expected. In spite of the fact that the PSG have a very strong team, they can at times be very inconsistent when it comes to their performance. PSG needs to avoid those situations.

In addition, although all of the players are doing well individually, there does seem to be a lack of chemistry between a few of the players in the squad as a whole. As a result, a lot of problems can arise due to that. In the current season of League 1, Paris Saint-Germain is doing very well. We will have to wait and see if they are able to perform adequately in the Champions League.



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November 25, 2022, 03:07:25 PM
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This season is also no guarantee for them because Bayern Munich will be the toughest challenge to beat.
You never can tell but judging from our own perspectives, this sport called football comes with surprises, nobody believed Chelsea F.C were going to win the champions league when Thomas Tuchel took over from Lampard. They surprised the world by winning the champions league, so saying Bayern Munich being the favorite I doubt it, PSG have not be lucky in the champions league but if it's their time to win it then I don't see any team stopping them not even Bayern Munich. But lets hope all the players comes back from the world cup injury free and lets see how the seconds phase of the champions league and the French League will go.         

Don't you even see City as a team that can stop PSG? It is rather strange since City is listed as a clear favorite, and bookmakers are responsible for their predictions with money. In general, I am rooting against both of these clubs and I will be glad if Bayern do their job first, and then maybe Bayern again  Grin - there are no hopes for Leipzig.

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November 25, 2022, 03:32:05 PM
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This season is also no guarantee for them because Bayern Munich will be the toughest challenge to beat.
You never can tell but judging from our own perspectives, this sport called football comes with surprises, nobody believed Chelsea F.C were going to win the champions league when Thomas Tuchel took over from Lampard. They surprised the world by winning the champions league, so saying Bayern Munich being the favorite I doubt it, PSG have not be lucky in the champions league but if it's their time to win it then I don't see any team stopping them not even Bayern Munich. But lets hope all the players comes back from the world cup injury free and lets see how the seconds phase of the champions league and the French League will go.         
Indeed, football will always bring surprises even though it seems impossible. But here we give our view of a club from several factors that we see from their game or from other factors. I agree that Paris Saint Germain can surprise me by winning the Champions League this season although many doubt it. But also on the other hand that I see now they are not ready to make it happen, for several reasons.
Bayern Munich looks more solid than Paris Saint Germain in terms of teamwork. It's okay now that Paris Saint Germain is strengthened by many star players, but if they don't have good teamwork, it will be in vain for them, because in a game individual ability will not be better than teamwork. So the chances for Bayern Munich to beat Paris Saint Germain are bigger in my opinion.

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November 25, 2022, 03:32:46 PM
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First of all, we have to separate the domestic league and the Champions League. obviously the difference is significant when compared to the Champions League competition, you and I totally agree on that. With regard to the Champions League, only qualified teams can play in the competition. meaning, Teams that are ranked in the top 4 in the domestic league have the opportunity to take part in the Champions League competition.
For Ligue 1, only the top 2 teams will qualify directly for the group stage while the other 1 team must enter via qualification. This means that there are 3 teams that are likely to qualify for the Champions League group stage from Ligue 1, and that is different from Laliga, Premier League, Serie A and the Bundesliga.

But I agree that the Champions League is one of the most competitive competitions at club level, so it's only natural that the Champions League will always be the most exciting competition to look forward to. PSG have not been able to win a single title so far, but they have reached the final which still failed in the end. This season is also no guarantee for them because Bayern Munich will be the toughest challenge to beat.

Yes you are right, and we know it. I'm just trying to describe it in general.

regarding the Champions League, in this case it is the PSG comparison. who posted earlier that PSG is good in Ligue 1, but not so convincing in the Champions League, that was the subject of our previous discussion.

So far, though it's always failed. PSG always tries to come back to win trophies in the most prestigious competitions in all existing leagues. and that's why, PSG brought in many star players to smooth out the club's goals and dreams of winning the Champions League title.

If they just want to be great in Ligue 1, it's clear they won't sign many stars. well, because the goal is the Champions League trophy. so it's very natural, if they bring in a lot of star players. but on the other side. this becomes very clear the difference for other teams in Ligue 1, PSG is too strong in the domestic league.

Regarding the success or failure of PSG to qualify for the next round, we'll see after the 16th round of the Champions League is rolled out again. for sure, the teams that qualify for the next round are strong teams and that's what makes this competition more competitive.

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November 25, 2022, 05:03:21 PM
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Ligue 1 will definitely belong to PSG, I have good reason to assume this because there is no other team in Ligue 1 that can disrupt PSG's dominance. Apart from focusing on Ligue 1, PSG really wants the Champions League trophy. PSG has been waiting for the Champions League Trophy for a very long time but has never managed to achieve it. PSG strengths can provide competition in the UCL, they need mentality to achieve their goals. This season has been very friendly with PSG, especially in Ligue 1, PSG needs high concentration to conquer the Champions League for the first time in the club's history.
with the current composition of PSG's players, their chances of getting the UCL trophy are up to 70%, but don't be complacent, even though they always win Ligue 1, other teams (like Lens)can shift PSG's dominance in the national league because they are too busy with UCL. PSG must be able to focus on both of them, it is not good for them to only focus on the UCL and underestimate Ligue 1.

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November 25, 2022, 05:32:29 PM
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PSG are of course concentrated on the Champions League championship before anything else. As they have a trio consisting of Messi, Mbappe and Neymar it is like their biggest opportunity to make it. But they need to play with a really strong system from now on. Bayern Munich are one of the title contenders at the same time. Although they haven't made a striker transfer they are still very powerful.

I expect a very close matchup but PSG can still do this. Messi has really bad memories with Barcelona against Bayern Munich. Maybe it is time to have revenge on those times.  Smiley

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November 25, 2022, 05:48:49 PM
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First of all, we have to separate the domestic league and the Champions League. obviously the difference is significant when compared to the Champions League competition, you and I totally agree on that. With regard to the Champions League, only qualified teams can play in the competition. meaning, Teams that are ranked in the top 4 in the domestic league have the opportunity to take part in the Champions League competition.
For Ligue 1, only the top 2 teams will qualify directly for the group stage while the other 1 team must enter via qualification. This means that there are 3 teams that are likely to qualify for the Champions League group stage from Ligue 1, and that is different from Laliga, Premier League, Serie A and the Bundesliga.

But I agree that the Champions League is one of the most competitive competitions at club level, so it's only natural that the Champions League will always be the most exciting competition to look forward to. PSG have not been able to win a single title so far, but they have reached the final which still failed in the end. This season is also no guarantee for them because Bayern Munich will be the toughest challenge to beat.

Yes you are right, and we know it. I'm just trying to describe it in general.

regarding the Champions League, in this case it is the PSG comparison. who posted earlier that PSG is good in Ligue 1, but not so convincing in the Champions League, that was the subject of our previous discussion.

So far, though it's always failed. PSG always tries to come back to win trophies in the most prestigious competitions in all existing leagues. and that's why, PSG brought in many star players to smooth out the club's goals and dreams of winning the Champions League title.

If they just want to be great in Ligue 1, it's clear they won't sign many stars. well, because the goal is the Champions League trophy. so it's very natural, if they bring in a lot of star players. but on the other side. this becomes very clear the difference for other teams in Ligue 1, PSG is too strong in the domestic league.

Regarding the success or failure of PSG to qualify for the next round, we'll see after the 16th round of the Champions League is rolled out again. for sure, the teams that qualify for the next round are strong teams and that's what makes this competition more competitive.
The best team in Ligue 1 so far is PSG. No other club has the kind of quality football they have in their team. PSG holds the supremacy of Ligue 1 every time. I am sure no one can beat them this time and they will secure the League 1 title again.

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November 25, 2022, 09:22:42 PM
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If PSG does not win the Champions League title, I agree that a few things are about to change. There are a couple of significant players for PSG who will be departing the team and that is to be expected. In spite of the fact that the PSG have a very strong team, they can at times be very inconsistent when it comes to their performance. PSG needs to avoid those situations.

In addition, although all of the players are doing well individually, there does seem to be a lack of chemistry between a few of the players in the squad as a whole. As a result, a lot of problems can arise due to that. In the current season of League 1, Paris Saint-Germain is doing very well. We will have to wait and see if they are able to perform adequately in the Champions League.
I feel like there is an overreacting to UCL, it's not an easy cup to win and there shouldn't be a pressure on the players. In any case, Mbappe is very very young, he will still be playing football after Messi and Neymar retires, which means that we could see the owners building a whole team around him yet again and again, maybe get some other known players.

Like for example, everyone talks about Jude Bellingham going to premier league as an English player, what if PSG ends up paying him good money to go there? If they can build a team of players age 25 or under, to surround Mbappe with great talent, then even if they don't win now, they can win 5-6 years later with that roster.

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November 25, 2022, 09:28:36 PM
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Ligue 1 will definitely belong to PSG, I have good reason to assume this because there is no other team in Ligue 1 that can disrupt PSG's dominance. Apart from focusing on Ligue 1, PSG really wants the Champions League trophy. PSG has been waiting for the Champions League Trophy for a very long time but has never managed to achieve it. PSG strengths can provide competition in the UCL, they need mentality to achieve their goals. This season has been very friendly with PSG, especially in Ligue 1, PSG needs high concentration to conquer the Champions League for the first time in the club's history.
with the current composition of PSG's players, their chances of getting the UCL trophy are up to 70%, but don't be complacent, even though they always win Ligue 1, other teams (like Lens)can shift PSG's dominance in the national league because they are too busy with UCL. PSG must be able to focus on both of them, it is not good for them to only focus on the UCL and underestimate Ligue 1.
70%? Where do you get this because with the current conditions, I personally feel that their chances should still be much smaller.
Not without reason, their Lewan is Bayern now and it would be funny to say they will win with a big Bayern especially they are also good in the group stage but compared to Bayern they are definitely better.

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November 26, 2022, 02:29:43 PM
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with the current composition of PSG's players, their chances of getting the UCL trophy are up to 70%, but don't be complacent, even though they always win Ligue 1, other teams (like Lens)can shift PSG's dominance in the national league because they are too busy with UCL. PSG must be able to focus on both of them, it is not good for them to only focus on the UCL and underestimate Ligue 1.
70%? Where do you get this because with the current conditions, I personally feel that their chances should still be much smaller.
Not without reason, their Lewan is Bayern now and it would be funny to say they will win with a big Bayern especially they are also good in the group stage but compared to Bayern they are definitely better.

Yes, he was clearly mistaken, probably confused something. Bookmakers estimate the chances of PSG winning the Champions League as 8.5, which is about 12%. Even the favorite (City) has a much smaller chance of about 42%. I don't know what the team should show in order for it to have 70% chances. It's something completely nonsensical.

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November 26, 2022, 02:43:35 PM
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I feel like there is an overreacting to UCL, it's not an easy cup to win and there shouldn't be a pressure on the players. In any case, Mbappe is very very young, he will still be playing football after Messi and Neymar retires, which means that we could see the owners building a whole team around him yet again and again, maybe get some other known players.
They can only build their team around Mbappe if he is happy in Paris and accept to play for them in next few years or one decade. Since a season beginning, Mbappe does not show he is happy in PSG even receiving so high salary from the club. Depends on PSG results in this season, Mbappe will decide to continue with them or to leave.

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Like for example, everyone talks about Jude Bellingham going to premier league as an English player, what if PSG ends up paying him good money to go there? If they can build a team of players age 25 or under, to surround Mbappe with great talent, then even if they don't win now, they can win 5-6 years later with that roster.
In the past, English players did not want to move beyond their country and Premier League to play in other countries at other leagues. Very few English players in the past accepted such risk and had abroad playing journeys. Only few like Steve McManaman (Real Madrid), Gascoinge (Lazio), Owen, Beckham, Woodgate (Real Madrid).

Recent years, we saw more English players moved beyond Premier League especially young players are more keen on Bundesliga to grow their career like Jadon Sancho, Jude Bellingham (Dortmund). Smalling and Tammy Abraham moved to Serie A to revive their career.

However playing in Ligue 1 is not their favorite option at least now. It is interesting assumption that Jude will be a pioneer for English players in Ligue 1. It is possible because PSG is very rich and they can give Jude an irrejectable offer.

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November 26, 2022, 02:48:02 PM
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with the current composition of PSG's players, their chances of getting the UCL trophy are up to 70%, but don't be complacent, even though they always win Ligue 1, other teams (like Lens)can shift PSG's dominance in the national league because they are too busy with UCL. PSG must be able to focus on both of them, it is not good for them to only focus on the UCL and underestimate Ligue 1.
70%? Where do you get this because with the current conditions, I personally feel that their chances should still be much smaller.
Not without reason, their Lewan is Bayern now and it would be funny to say they will win with a big Bayern especially they are also good in the group stage but compared to Bayern they are definitely better.
Things like these are not available on anywhere most chances this is his personal stuff as I also agree 70% is too much because now in first game of the knock-out round they are going to play against Bayern Munich which is also another hot favorite team, and they can beat PSG in this round which mean all chances are ended very quickly right now nothing is predictable as things are going to be clear after the end of this world cup if we have no notable big injury which create problems for any club then surely things could be amazing for all clubs.

Bayern Munich has never been easy opponent for any teams with their strength and performance which is also at the best before break, and they can do any stuff for any team but surely after this match we can go with better predictions because things could be clear and easy.

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November 26, 2022, 02:51:44 PM
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PSG are of course concentrated on the Champions League championship before anything else. As they have a trio consisting of Messi, Mbappe and Neymar it is like their biggest opportunity to make it. But they need to play with a really strong system from now on. Bayern Munich are one of the title contenders at the same time. Although they haven't made a striker transfer they are still very powerful.

I expect a very close matchup but PSG can still do this. Messi has really bad memories with Barcelona against Bayern Munich. Maybe it is time to have revenge on those times.  Smiley

My friend you are taking sides too fast
Why not PSG just play good football and win
Why should a player be so focused on taking revenge. Any of them both can win don't take side's fast

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November 26, 2022, 03:06:38 PM
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PSG are of course concentrated on the Champions League championship before anything else. As they have a trio consisting of Messi, Mbappe and Neymar it is like their biggest opportunity to make it. But they need to play with a really strong system from now on. Bayern Munich are one of the title contenders at the same time. Although they haven't made a striker transfer they are still very powerful.

I expect a very close matchup but PSG can still do this. Messi has really bad memories with Barcelona against Bayern Munich. Maybe it is time to have revenge on those times.  Smiley

My friend you are taking sides too fast
Why not PSG just play good football and win
Why should a player be so focused on taking revenge. Any of them both can win don't take side's fast

Does Messi even remember those things, players are always willing to take new challenges and make new sacrifices. It is the club that takes revenge and not individuals.
I don't have high hopes for Messi, Mbappe and Neymar because I have seen where three of them crashed out in the same champions league.
If they really want to win, they have to work hard for it, big names don't play ball, it is hard work that plays it.

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November 26, 2022, 03:07:42 PM
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Ligue 1 will definitely belong to PSG, I have good reason to assume this because there is no other team in Ligue 1 that can disrupt PSG's dominance. Apart from focusing on Ligue 1, PSG really wants the Champions League trophy. PSG has been waiting for the Champions League Trophy for a very long time but has never managed to achieve it. PSG strengths can provide competition in the UCL, they need mentality to achieve their goals. This season has been very friendly with PSG, especially in Ligue 1, PSG needs high concentration to conquer the Champions League for the first time in the club's history.
with the current composition of PSG's players, their chances of getting the UCL trophy are up to 70%, but don't be complacent, even though they always win Ligue 1, other teams (like Lens)can shift PSG's dominance in the national league because they are too busy with UCL. PSG must be able to focus on both of them, it is not good for them to only focus on the UCL and underestimate Ligue 1.
I don't see a big percentage of them getting the Champions League title. The reason is, this is only the top 16, they still have a long way to go to reach that percentage. I will agree with what you said when I saw them play in the final, and that too against the underdogs, not from names like Real Madrid, Manchester City or any of the favourites. Don't focus on giving them a high percentage, it would be better if we see their next match first.

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