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February 23, 2023, 02:05:26 AM
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Messi isn't Neymar or Bale who seeks money rather than anything else so they will not move when they found a better opportunity with lower salary.
Messi was forced to quit Barcelona but I think he will return whenever he finds that PSG is a hopeless team, especially when it gets sacked from Champions League. Losing Ligue 1 will be a no way to stay message in his head.
Bale is even more professional than Neymar but after some injuries, he lost his best form and started to derail from football and less professional. Neymar is always like this, he is one of most genius players after Cristiano Ronaldo and Messi but his career is impacted by his lack of professional and his unluckiness by many injuries around important matches or tournaments.

Messi is different, I agree, but with all unhappy experience in last few seasons in Barcelona and bitter feeling when he left Barca, it is very impossible to see Messi returns to their club. He might not continue his career in Europe and moving to Saudi like Ronaldo is very good for his family. Playing there two or three more seasons and earning huge salary is a dream for many player.

Messi does not have to prove anything else about his ability in football.

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February 23, 2023, 02:40:21 AM
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PSG are of course the favourite side however the odd gap is not too high either. Marseille are the home team which is a big factor for that. Besides Marseille have been doing a great job for many weeks as well. They have been able to maintain the five-point difference thanks to a good form. It is lovely to see this title race alive as well because we aren't used to see this often. PSG have mostly dominated the league for so many years.

You know that Marseille defeated PSG in the Coupe de France a few weeks before. It isn't impossible for them to do this again as well of course. Besides PSG have had problems against this kind of teams in away matches so far. It is better to be careful before betting on PSG I think.
if you want playing safe, bet draw is good. that's the most likely result if compare in the last match from both team. but for sure, it's not bet suggestion. I most likely to do that when I look how PSG performance is look decrease after the middle on stage. While Marseille is look increase in slow but sure. And, the competition is interesting to wait if the different point is not too far, like 2 different point.

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February 23, 2023, 03:29:23 AM
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PSG are of course the favourite side however the odd gap is not too high either. Marseille are the home team which is a big factor for that. Besides Marseille have been doing a great job for many weeks as well. They have been able to maintain the five-point difference thanks to a good form. It is lovely to see this title race alive as well because we aren't used to see this often. PSG have mostly dominated the league for so many years.

You know that Marseille defeated PSG in the Coupe de France a few weeks before. It isn't impossible for them to do this again as well of course. Besides PSG have had problems against this kind of teams in away matches so far. It is better to be careful before betting on PSG I think.
if you want playing safe, bet draw is good. that's the most likely result if compare in the last match from both team. but for sure, it's not bet suggestion. I most likely to do that when I look how PSG performance is look decrease after the middle on stage. While Marseille is look increase in slow but sure. And, the competition is interesting to wait if the different point is not too far, like 2 different point.
Indeed, for a team that is battling to secure first place in the standings it is quite possible that betting on a draw is a pretty good choice. But if Marseille is the underdog in the betting and there is a handicap odds of 0.25 or 0.5 I think it would be better to bet for Marseille. So even if the result is a draw I will still get a full win in the bet.

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February 23, 2023, 06:54:38 AM
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Lionel Messi returning to Barcelona very difficult but not impossible – Romero
Messi isn't Neymar or Bale who seeks money rather than anything else so they will not move when they found a better opportunity with lower salary.
Messi was forced to quit Barcelona but I think he will return whenever he finds that PSG is a hopeless team, especially when it gets sacked from Champions League. Losing Ligue 1 will be a no way to stay message in his head.
Lionel Messi's departure at that time was because Barcelona's finances were in a bad state, if only that hadn't happened I think he would still be in Barcelona now. I won't be surprised when I see Messi back in the Barcelona shirt. Apart from Barcelona still wanting him, I think he still wants to play there. I don't know about this because he never spoke, but it is possible that he has a desire to retire at Barcelona.

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February 23, 2023, 07:12:45 AM
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PSG are of course the favourite side however the odd gap is not too high either. Marseille are the home team which is a big factor for that. Besides Marseille have been doing a great job for many weeks as well. They have been able to maintain the five-point difference thanks to a good form. It is lovely to see this title race alive as well because we aren't used to see this often. PSG have mostly dominated the league for so many years.

You know that Marseille defeated PSG in the Coupe de France a few weeks before. It isn't impossible for them to do this again as well of course. Besides PSG have had problems against this kind of teams in away matches so far. It is better to be careful before betting on PSG I think.
if you want playing safe, bet draw is good. that's the most likely result if compare in the last match from both team. but for sure, it's not bet suggestion. I most likely to do that when I look how PSG performance is look decrease after the middle on stage. While Marseille is look increase in slow but sure. And, the competition is interesting to wait if the different point is not too far, like 2 different point.
Indeed, for a team that is battling to secure first place in the standings it is quite possible that betting on a draw is a pretty good choice. But if Marseille is the underdog in the betting and there is a handicap odds of 0.25 or 0.5 I think it would be better to bet for Marseille. So even if the result is a draw I will still get a full win in the bet.

Marseille will play more insistently because they want to get closer to the point gap with PSG, even though in the last five meetings these two clubs have always won PSG, but in the later match it is possible that the predictions you mentioned will apply, placing bets on Marseille is far better than PSG, because Marseille plays at their headquarters, of course Marseille will not remain silent if they experience defeat at home.

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February 23, 2023, 08:22:47 AM
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Paris Saint Germain is the main team that is at the forefront of winning the Ligue 1 championship every season, that's because the strength they have is above the other teams that are here. One of the things that supports them in making them that way is that their financial ability is very good, so that it makes it easier for them to do things, including buying a lot of star players, without having to think twice about spending money to do that.

That's correct Paris Saint Germain is the main hope for the French league this season and after the superstars they bought like Neymar and Messi and Mbappe we don't expect anything other than this from this team also there is the possibility for this team to replace their coach Galtier because they were not well enough in the recent matches they had during this season and because the financial situation they have they can easily hire a better coach than Galtier.

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February 23, 2023, 08:58:30 AM
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Lionel Messi returning to Barcelona very difficult but not impossible – Romero
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Messi is not even so difficult to go back again to the barcelona but the main problem is barcelona needs to solve its financial problem before trying to think to bring it back messi to the barcelona again. Xavi is always opening the door for messi to come back again to the barcelona. Messi's family confirmed that in the past if messi might possible to go to the barcelona again as long as the club didn't have debt and wanna pay messi's big salary. This is the main problem that has been facing by Barcelona to bring back messi to the camp nou.

I see no reason for messi to go back again to the Barcelona if the club has not fixed yet its financial problem. Barcelona is still having very big debt.

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February 23, 2023, 01:38:53 PM
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Paris Saint Germain is the main team that is at the forefront of winning the Ligue 1 championship every season, that's because the strength they have is above the other teams that are here. One of the things that supports them in making them that way is that their financial ability is very good, so that it makes it easier for them to do things, including buying a lot of star players, without having to think twice about spending money to do that.
but not always a rich team like PSG manages to get the players they want, even though in ligue 1 PSG is the king but in the international league they are still not able to compete with several other rich and strong teams. even Petit (france legend) himself said that "PSG was not able to maximize the great talents of messi and neymar", almost losing to lille was a hard blow for the PSG squad.

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February 23, 2023, 01:49:25 PM
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Lionel Messi returning to Barcelona very difficult but not impossible – Romero
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Messi is not even so difficult to go back again to the barcelona but the main problem is barcelona needs to solve its financial problem before trying to think to bring it back messi to the barcelona again. Xavi is always opening the door for messi to come back again to the barcelona. Messi's family confirmed that in the past if messi might possible to go to the barcelona again as long as the club didn't have debt and wanna pay messi's big salary. This is the main problem that has been facing by Barcelona to bring back messi to the camp nou.

I see no reason for messi to go back again to the Barcelona if the club has not fixed yet its financial problem. Barcelona is still having very big debt.

I don't know what the current situation is for Barcelona regarding their financial issues, but as we can see they often find ways to make it possible somehow. Last time they didn't, that's true, but if they have a long time to handle a specific problem they might be able to solve it.

As far as the sportive side goes it could still be interesting to see Messi go back and play behind Lewandowski, Dembele and Torres or Pedri etc. They would find a position for him where he could still offer a lot of value to the team. Lewandowski would certainly be happy about it because he knows that there is no player providing better and more precise assists than Messi. That is what Lewandowski loves.

For Ligue 1 it would be bad news. Think about the worst case when Real Madrid would get Mbappe and Messi leaves as well, Ligue 1 would get hit hard in terms of public interest. Neymar isn't really a reason anymore for people to watch PSG.

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February 23, 2023, 02:04:03 PM
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Paris Saint Germain is the main team that is at the forefront of winning the Ligue 1 championship every season, that's because the strength they have is above the other teams that are here. One of the things that supports them in making them that way is that their financial ability is very good, so that it makes it easier for them to do things, including buying a lot of star players, without having to think twice about spending money to do that.

That's correct Paris Saint Germain is the main hope for the French league this season and after the superstars they bought like Neymar and Messi and Mbappe we don't expect anything other than this from this team also there is the possibility for this team to replace their coach Galtier because they were not well enough in the recent matches they had during this season and because the financial situation they have they can easily hire a better coach than Galtier.
Maybe it's true that the problem with Paris Saint Germain now is the coach. It may be difficult for a coach who has to unite star players who have different characters and with different levels of selfishness, it really affects their cooperation on the field. But I remember Real Madrid when they won the Champions League 3 times in a row, at that time the squad owned by Real Madrid were very high quality players and some of them were even captains of their respective National Teams. However, with the genius of the coach they were able to work together very well, and there were no problems between the players as we see now at Paris Saint Germain.

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February 23, 2023, 04:57:02 PM
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Paris Saint Germain is the main team that is at the forefront of winning the Ligue 1 championship every season, that's because the strength they have is above the other teams that are here. One of the things that supports them in making them that way is that their financial ability is very good, so that it makes it easier for them to do things, including buying a lot of star players, without having to think twice about spending money to do that.
but not always a rich team like PSG manages to get the players they want, even though in ligue 1 PSG is the king but in the international league they are still not able to compete with several other rich and strong teams. even Petit (france legend) himself said that "PSG was not able to maximize the great talents of messi and neymar", almost losing to lille was a hard blow for the PSG squad.
It's not that they can't get the players they want, but as it's been said that Paris Saint Germain can't maximize the potential of their current players. Just look at the lineup they have, they have a luxurious squad, but for the higher competitions in Europe they are still having difficulties, they are very difficult to compete with other big teams in Europe at the moment. It's a pity that with the composition of the players they have, they can't achieve maximum results.

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February 23, 2023, 05:04:17 PM
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Maybe it's true that the problem with Paris Saint Germain now is the coach. It may be difficult for a coach who has to unite star players who have different characters and with different levels of selfishness, it really affects their cooperation on the field. But I remember Real Madrid when they won the Champions League 3 times in a row, at that time the squad owned by Real Madrid were very high quality players and some of them were even captains of their respective National Teams. However, with the genius of the coach they were able to work together very well, and there were no problems between the players as we see now at Paris Saint Germain.

That's just a possibility. Since Paris Saint Germain got many superstar players during the last months and years especially the forward players we can't say the problem of Paris Saint Germain is the players because right now they got Messi in his golden days and many other stars like Neymar and Mbappe while they still don't have strong defensive line also Christophe Galtier is not a top coach according to his past experience compared to other coaches in top teams. 

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February 23, 2023, 05:04:49 PM
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PSG are of course the favourite side however the odd gap is not too high either. Marseille are the home team which is a big factor for that. Besides Marseille have been doing a great job for many weeks as well. They have been able to maintain the five-point difference thanks to a good form. It is lovely to see this title race alive as well because we aren't used to see this often. PSG have mostly dominated the league for so many years.

You know that Marseille defeated PSG in the Coupe de France a few weeks before. It isn't impossible for them to do this again as well of course. Besides PSG have had problems against this kind of teams in away matches so far. It is better to be careful before betting on PSG I think.
if you want playing safe, bet draw is good. that's the most likely result if compare in the last match from both team. but for sure, it's not bet suggestion. I most likely to do that when I look how PSG performance is look decrease after the middle on stage. While Marseille is look increase in slow but sure. And, the competition is interesting to wait if the different point is not too far, like 2 different point.
People lost their belief in PSG by the looks of it. I still think that in ANY game that PSG plays, betting against their win is not really a safe bet. I believe that they will either win it easily, or they will have a shocking result which is a draw or even a loss, which happens time to time and not impossible but looking at overall rate, winning is still the most likely thing that they do.

They played 7 games in UCL so far, winning 4 of them, 2 draws and recently got their first loss, played 24 games in ligue 1, won 18 of them, got 3 draws and 3 losses. Which comes down to 31 makes, 22 wins, good enough rate that they mostly win, and I would bet they could again.
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February 23, 2023, 05:22:45 PM
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Yes, worst part is not even over, they are going to play against Marseille next up, and that is a good team, they are not like Lille, if they hard time beating Lille and lost to Bayern, then playing Marseille will be even harder. If they play all their good players then they will tire them before the next Bayern game, and if they do not then they are going to have even hard time beating a good team.

I do not know what they will do, maybe risk it and play everyone and let them relax against Nantes? That could be a better idea to be fair, but basically this is going to be a week where we will see PSG not be 100% just yet, and could go either teams way.

Actually if PSG plays with a complete team squad, Marseille is not a tough opponent to overthrow. IMO, PSG's problem is actually in the midfield sector and the defense line they have. and, if PSG's midfield players are in good form. whichever team they face in Ligue 1, it's not a big deal. well, unfortunately, the PSG players are currently underperforming. plus, some players are prone to injury. one more thing that became my note, Galtier is always tweaking the formation. IMO, the system that Galtier implemented was too complicated, which ultimately affected the team's overall performance.

Speaking of the match against Marseille. I don't really expect PSG to return to their best form. especially in the match later, it is very likely that Neymar will not be played. even so, PSG should be able to win the match over Marseille. because after all, Galtier still has Messi and Mbeppe. but the question is whether the other players will play with a slick performance. if not, this fight will be easy for us to predict. For the next match, I will not speculate before watching PSG play against Marseille.

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February 24, 2023, 01:56:30 AM
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Mbappe and Messi's absence was felt quite a lot in this game indeed. It affected them in the attacking line really negatively.

In addition to that I can say that PSG weren't good at defending today. Monaco's second goal came after a big mistake by Bitshiabu in defense for example. PSG gave big spaces to their competitor during the game also. Donnarumma made some important saves also otherwise Monaco could have won this game by a bigger goal difference honestly. Ben Yedder had an amazing day with 2 goals and 1 assist. The game ended in the first half already in fact as we watched all the goals there. PSG weren't even like they were competing in the game in the other half. They had only one goal attempt.

These PSG results make this Ligue 1 much more exciting, I don't know what problems PSG is going through, but whatever it is, it's affecting them too much because losing 3-1 is not normal for them, it's practically a humiliation, and the teams are already taking advantage of this downturn in PSG's spirits.

PSG is not just Messi, PSG is all the 11 that go out on the field to play, if Mbappé, Neymar or Messi don't play, the PSG team falls apart, and that's not good, as a coach I would have to think of a solution quick, because the starless team has yet to do well. If PSG keep playing like this, I don't see it as a good option to face Bayern in the UCL.

Lionel Messi returning to Barcelona very difficult but not impossible – Romero
To be honest
Messi is not even so difficult to go back again to the barcelona but the main problem is barcelona needs to solve its financial problem before trying to think to bring it back messi to the barcelona again. Xavi is always opening the door for messi to come back again to the barcelona. Messi's family confirmed that in the past if messi might possible to go to the barcelona again as long as the club didn't have debt and wanna pay messi's big salary. This is the main problem that has been facing by Barcelona to bring back messi to the camp nou.

I see no reason for messi to go back again to the Barcelona if the club has not fixed yet its financial problem. Barcelona is still having very big debt.

I don't know what the current situation is for Barcelona regarding their financial issues, but as we can see they often find ways to make it possible somehow. Last time they didn't, that's true, but if they have a long time to handle a specific problem they might be able to solve it.

As far as the sportive side goes it could still be interesting to see Messi go back and play behind Lewandowski, Dembele and Torres or Pedri etc. They would find a position for him where he could still offer a lot of value to the team. Lewandowski would certainly be happy about it because he knows that there is no player providing better and more precise assists than Messi. That is what Lewandowski loves.

For Ligue 1 it would be bad news. Think about the worst case when Real Madrid would get Mbappe and Messi leaves as well, Ligue 1 would get hit hard in terms of public interest. Neymar isn't really a reason anymore for people to watch PSG.

According to Messi's brother, he said that Messi would not go to Barcelona anymore, now I have no idea what PSG plans with Messi, in the last match it was Messi who saved PSG in that exciting match with Lillle which in my personal opinion I thought that PSG was going to lose, everything pointed to that.

Personally, I would like Messi to leave PSG, for PSG to stay with Mbappé and for him to build the team, because in a few words that is what he wants and since they have given him so many freedoms and power it is obvious, PSG is the only club that has given a lot of importance to a player and that sometimes I feel that they put him above the club, which seems very bad to me, something that Real Madrid did let them know when Mbappé wanted to go to Madrid once he rejected them.

It is a fact that Ney is going to leave and it seems a shame to me, if that team were mine I would prefer the coach to leave, but not the players, maybe Messi and Ney are a bit old, but they are the best..

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February 24, 2023, 02:44:16 AM
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According to Messi's brother, he said that Messi would not go to Barcelona anymore, now I have no idea what PSG plans with Messi, in the last match it was Messi who saved PSG in that exciting match with Lillle which in my personal opinion I thought that PSG was going to lose, everything pointed to that.
If you are Messi, would you want and happy to return to Barcelona?

I don't know your answer but if I was Messi, I won't do that. Never after all of bad treatments they did against Messi.

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Personally, I would like Messi to leave PSG, for PSG to stay with Mbappé and for him to build the team, because in a few words that is what he wants and since they have given him so many freedoms and power it is obvious, PSG is the only club that has given a lot of importance to a player and that sometimes I feel that they put him above the club, which seems very bad to me, something that Real Madrid did let them know when Mbappé wanted to go to Madrid once he rejected them.
If Messi win Champions League with PSG in this season, I am so sure that he will have more reasons to leave and possibly he will move to Saudi Arabia to play a few seasons there and earn lot of money before he ends his career. If Ronaldo can move to Saudi Arabia, why Messi can not do this?

They both won so many titles from clubs to their national team and personally titles too. To find reasons to stay in Europe is not easy if they see more attractive financial offers for 2 or 3 last years of their career.

If PSG fails in Champions League this season, Messi possibly will sign another one year contract with them. I guess he still want to win a last Champions League before ending his career. Many seasons since his last cup there with Barcelona and a legendary trio Messi, Neymar and Suarez.

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February 24, 2023, 06:07:50 AM
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According to Messi's brother, he said that Messi would not go to Barcelona anymore, now I have no idea what PSG plans with Messi, in the last match it was Messi who saved PSG in that exciting match with Lillle which in my personal opinion I thought that PSG was going to lose, everything pointed to that.
If you are Messi, would you want and happy to return to Barcelona?

I don't know your answer but if I was Messi, I won't do that. Never after all of bad treatments they did against Messi.

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Personally, I would like Messi to leave PSG, for PSG to stay with Mbappé and for him to build the team, because in a few words that is what he wants and since they have given him so many freedoms and power it is obvious, PSG is the only club that has given a lot of importance to a player and that sometimes I feel that they put him above the club, which seems very bad to me, something that Real Madrid did let them know when Mbappé wanted to go to Madrid once he rejected them.
If Messi win Champions League with PSG in this season, I am so sure that he will have more reasons to leave and possibly he will move to Saudi Arabia to play a few seasons there and earn lot of money before he ends his career. If Ronaldo can move to Saudi Arabia, why Messi can not do this?

They both won so many titles from clubs to their national team and personally titles too. To find reasons to stay in Europe is not easy if they see more attractive financial offers for 2 or 3 last years of their career.

If PSG fails in Champions League this season, Messi possibly will sign another one year contract with them. I guess he still want to win a last Champions League before ending his career. Many seasons since his last cup there with Barcelona and a legendary trio Messi, Neymar and Suarez.
Lionel Messi still has great potential to do good things but he is not getting that opportunity in PSG team in my opinion. In that case, if Lionel Messi joins another club, there will be some good opportunities and I think he will be able to present something great to the audience again.

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February 24, 2023, 07:47:21 AM
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A bit confused to see Lille odds today that the bookie has provide them low odds @1.36 from their opponent Brest @8.60 and i know from recent performance Lille were better than Brest but head to head statistics has showed even Lille were unable to win 5 times streak from Brest so i am not sure Lille win could be the best picked for this match because they were always be hard struggle while against Brest so i don't think Brest will be easily to beat by Lille today even probably there is a chance for Brest at least get 1 point from this match so that's why i am thinking to bet draw or both teams to scores

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February 24, 2023, 08:44:17 AM
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Maybe it's true that the problem with Paris Saint Germain now is the coach. It may be difficult for a coach who has to unite star players who have different characters and with different levels of selfishness, it really affects their cooperation on the field. But I remember Real Madrid when they won the Champions League 3 times in a row, at that time the squad owned by Real Madrid were very high quality players and some of them were even captains of their respective National Teams. However, with the genius of the coach they were able to work together very well, and there were no problems between the players as we see now at Paris Saint Germain.

That's just a possibility. Since Paris Saint Germain got many superstar players during the last months and years especially the forward players we can't say the problem of Paris Saint Germain is the players because right now they got Messi in his golden days and many other stars like Neymar and Mbappe while they still don't have strong defensive line also Christophe Galtier is not a top coach according to his past experience compared to other coaches in top teams. 
But indeed this possibility is real because if you look at the current conditions and the previous several seasons, PSG has always been hampered by coach problems.
In the Poche era and currently Galtier, it can be said that the coach is a little lacking in terms of experience.
In terms of results, his performance can be said to be good, but indeed in terms of experience for bigger competitions this coach cannot contribute much.

From the naked eye, you can actually see it when you see Galtier's clear experience, which can indeed be said to be his first season in the Champions League.

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February 24, 2023, 09:16:52 AM
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A bit confused to see Lille odds today that the bookie has provide them low odds @1.36 from their opponent Brest @8.60 and i know from recent performance Lille were better than Brest but head to head statistics has showed even Lille were unable to win 5 times streak from Brest so i am not sure Lille win could be the best picked for this match because they were always be hard struggle while against Brest so i don't think Brest will be easily to beat by Lille today even probably there is a chance for Brest at least get 1 point from this match so that's why i am thinking to bet draw or both teams to scores
Very strange odds for Brest, even though Brest came as a guest I think that many odds make the considerations a bit shaky to favor Lille. But if it's head to head like that I think it really doesn't hurt to bet on the options like you said. What is certain is that Lille will try to win this match because they have a target to shift Rennes' position on the standings board.

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