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June 08, 2023, 09:05:58 PM
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Speaking of Nagelsmann, I much prefer him over Galtier, Nagelsmann is a young coach who carries modern football. it doesn't matter what the French public thinks, but what is certain is that he has the capacity as a potential coach. that is why, Nagelsmann was targeted by several big clubs.
So far, there is only information that PSG is in talks with Nagelsmann, and this could possibly be a profitable deal for both parties, since PSG with Nagelsmann can become significantly faster, which they lacked with Galtier. PSG have good financial resources, so I have no doubt that they will be able to make a good offer. But first, we should wait for official information, because so far it just looks like a rumor.

I heard that on the news when they said Nagelsmann is going to join PSG for the next season and they think the reason of their team failed in this season was because of the bad coach they had.
If Nagelsmann gets better results in PSG I think Bayern Munich will feel regret.


It is very likely that Mbappe will remain for this season but Messi will surely leave, because I believe he has played his last match in the club. If Mbappe stays and they reinforce the team with good players that are not super star, the team will be balanced but congesting one team with 3  super stars.
If Neymar leaves, Messi leaves and 5 new and good players are added to the team for reinforcement, I believe PsG will have good results for the next season champions league.
So far the quality of Ligue 1 has not been able to compete with other leagues to reach the top of the UCL champions. It is evident, the power of money is still quite difficult to get a champion instantly. Neymar, Messi and Mbaape they are good but don't have hard work. It seems that they are too comfortable with a large salary. It seems that they have to change the mentality of the players to work hard. As for the League, they have had many titles. They just need to improve the quality for UCL.

In the next season when Messi and Neymar leave PSG, they will still have the chance to hire a better place and this can be a reason to say the quality of the French league won change.

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June 08, 2023, 10:11:23 PM
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Finally Mbappe gets what he wanted in last few seasons. He became a only and biggest super star in PSG after Messi and likely Neymar departures. Now he will have a bigger responsibility to carry PSG to titles. He will have to show that he is able to shine without Messi and Neymar.

It is time for Mbappe to show his talent and high ego.
Mbappe is indeed a player with good talent. but with him going to shine alone at PSG, I'm not sure it can lead PSG to the Champions League title they want. even with Neymar and Messi in the team, PSG is also having problems in the UCL. and it will not be easy to force Mbappe to fend for himself up front.
PSG will definitely make several player purchases to support Mbappe on the front lines.

There is no doubt that Mbappe is a great player. But he is selfish. And that's why the attacking performance of the PSG team was not very good. PSG will certainly be looking for replacements for Messi and Neymar next season. And if Mbappe can't build a good relationship with them, winning the Ligue 1 title will be challenging for PSG. Winning the Ligue 1 title was not easy for PSG this season either. A stable squad is essential to perform well in a competitive platform like the Champions League. PSG's squad is not stable. It is unlikely that PSG will do well in the Champions League next season.

Everyone knows he is a selfish player and he doesn't want to see other superstar players on his team and he is a player who wants to be always the best in his team and he gets more attention to himself than other players.
Actually, that's why other players like Neymar and Messi had problems in PSG and maybe a few months ago the owner of PSG had to let Mbappe leave this team for Real Madrid.

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June 08, 2023, 10:20:01 PM
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In the next season when Messi and Neymar leave PSG, they will still have the chance to hire a better place and this can be a reason to say the quality of the French league won change.

I don't think PSG will be a weak team next season because of the departure of several star players this season. It will not have a big impact on PSG as they can bring in several other players in the transfer window. I think PSG will still be the strongest team to win the Ligue 1 trophy even without Messi.  However, this will become a weakness in the next season if the players brought in by PSG cannot fully contribute.

PSG have not won the UCL trophy for the first time, even though they have been strengthened this season by many star players but they still failed in the ucl. Will they fail next season again only time and player signings will be the answer.

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June 08, 2023, 10:29:04 PM
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Mbappe is staying with PSG for at least one more season that's for sure now. However there is still a possibility for him to leave after that if PSG still fail in reaching even the Champions League finale and winning the title for the first time finally. I know that he has a huge contract in hand but it isn't like there is no other team can make him have the same conditions.

In that case Real Madrid would be his first choice undoubtedly. Because Real Madrid were even nearly signing him before if it weren't for PSG's huge contract offer to him. But I don't think Mbappe cares about only money. He must be wishing to win bigger titles like the Champions League.

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June 08, 2023, 10:31:59 PM
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Speaking of Nagelsmann, I much prefer him over Galtier, Nagelsmann is a young coach who carries modern football. it doesn't matter what the French public thinks, but what is certain is that he has the capacity as a potential coach. that is why, Nagelsmann was targeted by several big clubs.
So far, there is only information that PSG is in talks with Nagelsmann, and this could possibly be a profitable deal for both parties, since PSG with Nagelsmann can become significantly faster, which they lacked with Galtier. PSG have good financial resources, so I have no doubt that they will be able to make a good offer. But first, we should wait for official information, because so far it just looks like a rumor.

I heard that on the news when they said Nagelsmann is going to join PSG for the next season and they think the reason of their team failed in this season was because of the bad coach they had.
If Nagelsmann gets better results in PSG I think Bayern Munich will feel regret.

Now indeed the talk of Nagelsmann and PSG is increasingly being heard and I see this is another name apart from Conte and Zidane who are currently still busy talking about PSG.
This is indeed a viable option rather than still having to hope for Galtier even though he is a good coach but for PSG this is still very lacking.
Several other conditions emerged from Henry now because indeed he said if Nagelsmann went to PSG then he was ready to be his assistant.

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June 08, 2023, 11:06:43 PM
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There will be an impact felt when Messi leaves, but on the other hand, of course, things like this can still be minimized if they immediately move quickly to find other fresher players, but don't let the fans give high expectations because they are afraid the same thing will happen to Messi. can happen again to new players when it doesn't match their expectations.
Now Asensio is expected to be one of the strong candidates at PSG, hopefully he will not be damaged again in terms of fame by some irresponsible fans.
The impact might not be that big for PSG if the team can find a replacement that is no less good than Messi more quickly. However, during this break, almost all teams will try to find fresh and young players to replace the old players who have left the team. That's why all teams that have enough funds will move quickly to get the new players they want during a break like this, especially for teams like PSG who generally really need new players to have a better next season than the previous season.
As I said before this depends on how PSG find suitable players.
For a new player like Messi there won't be one I think because he is extraordinary but to find a player who matches PSG's vision it can still be done and of course this can still be found now with the finances and time that is still long enough I think they can do that though the pattern may still be the same because it only revolves around Mbappe when talking about PSG.

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June 08, 2023, 11:39:02 PM
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This season the gap between PSG and Lens was not too big and Lens could even take their place if they didn't lose points in this season is some matches they had, because of this little gap and bad performance in PSG I think the owner of PSG will not spend money like this for the next season be they invested once and they didn't get good results. These people are wise enough to take lessons from the mistakes they had.
Or maybe they will spend even more to hire better players than what they had.

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June 08, 2023, 11:52:19 PM
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This season the gap between PSG and Lens was not too big and Lens could even take their place if they didn't lose points in this season is some matches they had, because of this little gap and bad performance in PSG I think the owner of PSG will not spend money like this for the next season be they invested once and they didn't get good results. These people are wise enough to take lessons from the mistakes they had.
Or maybe they will spend even more to hire better players than what they had.

PSG's ambition to pursue the UCL trophy is quite large. even though they always fail, but I think they will still be looking for some players for the transfer market this summer. moreover they were left behind by several important players in the squad. of course if you want to compete PSG have to spend quite a lot this season. unless they only want to dominate Ligue 1 without having a UCL target like in previous seasons.

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June 09, 2023, 04:29:32 AM
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If they wanted to run projects like PSg in the premier league they had to spend much more money because in the premier league, there are many ort rich teams and there is a closer race between other teams while in the French League, they could have easier days, if they were spending this money in premier they could even lose the top of the table easily.



That is exactly the point and that is why I am not a big fan of picking a league that is inferior and then invest a billion and celebrate the team for winning the title on a yearly basis. Not a lot of people are truly excited when they can watch Neymar, Messi and Mbappe play against Troyes. But what if they hypothetically be playing for Newcastle instead and people get to see them to play against Manchester United / City, Liverpool, Tottenham, Chelsea etc. Having those three guys play for the Ligue 1 title in the same team became very boring over time. Everyone was waiting for half a year to pass until the knockout games in the Champions League finally began and if PSG got eliminated early, then the season was essentially over.

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June 09, 2023, 05:11:26 AM
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For some reason when talking about Paris Saint Germain, I have confidence that they will return to transfer star players again for next season even though they will be left behind by 2 other star players such as Neymar and Messi. But I hope they stop doing things like that, because nothing changes when they make transfers that cost a lot of money. I would prefer that when they start to regenerate their squad, yes they can bring back potential young players that they can use for long-term progress.


It is a fact, I think PSG could go looking for or sweetening Haaland, and any of the players who are shining worldwide, but of course, they are also showing themselves to Brazil, which is where I think there is a lot of talent, no matter how bad it is have gone to Brazil, these players always have that special talent and make a difference, thanks to them everything related to soccer has been placed with a high level of competition, South America is one of the continents where Europe has been taught a lot about Soccer Well, I cannot deny that in Europe there are players that I admire with all my being, one of them CR7, Mbappé, Ibrahimovic , but here in this part of the world, it is where the Players who set the pace have Come out.

There will be an impact felt when Messi leaves, but on the other hand, of course, things like this can still be minimized if they immediately move quickly to find other fresher players, but don't let the fans give high expectations because they are afraid the same thing will happen to Messi. can happen again to new players when it doesn't match their expectations.
Now Asensio is expected to be one of the strong candidates at PSG, hopefully he will not be damaged again in terms of fame by some irresponsible fans.
The impact might not be that big for PSG if the team can find a replacement that is no less good than Messi more quickly. However, during this break, almost all teams will try to find fresh and young players to replace the old players who have left the team. That's why all teams that have enough funds will move quickly to get the new players they want during a break like this, especially for teams like PSG who generally really need new players to have a better next season than the previous season.
As I said before this depends on how PSG find suitable players.
For a new player like Messi there won't be one I think because he is extraordinary but to find a player who matches PSG's vision it can still be done and of course this can still be found now with the finances and time that is still long enough I think they can do that though the pattern may still be the same because it only revolves around Mbappe when talking about PSG.

Well I agree with what you say, PSG has to know which players are the best to adapt to their style of play, it should be noted that they had the most dangerous trident in the world Messi-Mbappé-Neymar, nothing more and nothing less than two footballers from the most influential is an Argentine and a Brazilian considered the best in the world and a Frenchman who shows that French football, apart from being very elegant, has players that are getting better and better and of a high level, if they did not manage to win the UCL , What can the Sheikh expect if I have not yet seen players of their level, there are some who are young, but who do not stand out like them, I think that PSG made the mistake of their Lives by leaving Messi and leaving the Coach , I would never in my life Leave Messi.


If they wanted to run projects like PSg in the premier league they had to spend much more money because in the premier league, there are many ort rich teams and there is a closer race between other teams while in the French League, they could have easier days, if they were spending this money in premier they could even lose the top of the table easily.



That is exactly the point and that is why I am not a big fan of picking a league that is inferior and then invest a billion and celebrate the team for winning the title on a yearly basis. Not a lot of people are truly excited when they can watch Neymar, Messi and Mbappe play against Troyes. But what if they hypothetically be playing for Newcastle instead and people get to see them to play against Manchester United / City, Liverpool, Tottenham, Chelsea etc. Having those three guys play for the Ligue 1 title in the same team became very boring over time. Everyone was waiting for half a year to pass until the knockout games in the Champions League finally began and if PSG got eliminated early, then the season was essentially over.
That is what I have been emphasizing, no matter how good players a team has, world-class stars, the failure is not their fault, well Hypothetically it is, because they go out on the Field and they are the ones who lose, the really losers For me he is the coach, and it causes me a lot of controversy that they let Messi go and the same coach continues, I don't know how fútbol is handled well in France, but no matter how old Messi is , he is a Player who does anything and It turns it into a goal, but if it is misdirected it is obvious that they will never win a UCL , in fact they did not win it with them, less chance they have later if they hire new Players without the same Quality.


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Luis Suarez will not be joining his friend and former Barcelona teammate Lionel Messi at Inter Miami, the Uruguayan striker said Thursday.

In a stunning announcement Wednesday, Messi revealed his intention to join the MLS club following the expiration of his contract with Paris Saint-Germain on June 30.

- Stream on ESPN+: LaLiga, Bundesliga, more (U.S.)

Speculation immediately followed that Miami could look to surround Messi with some other familiar faces. Suarez, who was linked with a transfer to Miami before he left Europe to return to South America -- first with Uruguayan giants Nacional and then with Brazilian club Gremio -- was one of those tipped for a potential move.

Source: https://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/37821917/luis-suarez-joining-lionel-messi-inter-miami-impossible

I don't know, but in my personal opinion, I think that Messi made the wrong choice, because the MLS is like burying his career as a footballer, it's not the same anymore, but you have to ask David Beckham and other much older ones who were stars in his time as Kid Valderrama, now Busquets and Luis Suarez are not as influential for me as Messi is, that's why I clarify that it's just my personal perception, I think Messi chose his early retirement, and this is often the fault of a club that he doesn't value his players, and of course, the fans too, because they were already treating him very badly, otherwise you have to ask CR7 to see how they treated him at Manchester United.

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June 09, 2023, 06:28:39 AM
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If they wanted to run projects like PSg in the premier league they had to spend much more money because in the premier league, there are many ort rich teams and there is a closer race between other teams while in the French League, they could have easier days, if they were spending this money in premier they could even lose the top of the table easily.
That is exactly the point and that is why I am not a big fan of picking a league that is inferior and then invest a billion and celebrate the team for winning the title on a yearly basis. Not a lot of people are truly excited when they can watch Neymar, Messi and Mbappe play against Troyes. But what if they hypothetically be playing for Newcastle instead and people get to see them to play against Manchester United / City, Liverpool, Tottenham, Chelsea etc. Having those three guys play for the Ligue 1 title in the same team became very boring over time. Everyone was waiting for half a year to pass until the knockout games in the Champions League finally began and if PSG got eliminated early, then the season was essentially over.

PSG spent a lot of money and signed several star players. Even then their performance was not good. Even though the Ligue 1 teams are not very strong, the PSG team cannot perform well. Even PSG spent a lot of money to win the Champions League title. But their performance in the Champions League was worse. Even though they have a lot of money, PSG management can buy star players even if Messi and Neymar leave the team. We will see a lot of star players in PSG's squad next season as well. However, Ligue 1 is not very competitive. And I think the Newcastle team is much stronger than PSG right now. Because the Premier League is very competitive. The standards of Ligue 1 teams are much lower than Premier League teams.

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For some reason when talking about Paris Saint Germain, I have confidence that they will return to transfer star players again for next season even though they will be left behind by 2 other star players such as Neymar and Messi. But I hope they stop doing things like that, because nothing changes when they make transfers that cost a lot of money. I would prefer that when they start to regenerate their squad, yes they can bring back potential young players that they can use for long-term progress.


It is a fact, I think PSG could go looking for or sweetening Haaland, and any of the players who are shining worldwide, but of course, they are also showing themselves to Brazil, which is where I think there is a lot of talent, no matter how bad it is have gone to Brazil, these players always have that special talent and make a difference, thanks to them everything related to soccer has been placed with a high level of competition, South America is one of the continents where Europe has been taught a lot about Soccer Well, I cannot deny that in Europe there are players that I admire with all my being, one of them CR7, Mbappé, Ibrahimovic , but here in this part of the world, it is where the Players who set the pace have Come out.

Actually it's not a problem for PSG to do something like that because they still have plenty of money and they can still just do it in conditions like now. Looking for a player labeled a star must also be seen in terms of age conditions and compatibility with the club.
PSG don't pay too much attention to that (just like Todd did to Chelsea) they only see good players and buy them but don't really see if these players will fit or not later.
If things like that continue to be carried out, the results will not change and I feel that PSG will continue like this stagnantly and without change.

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June 09, 2023, 07:52:16 AM
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Mbappe is staying with PSG for at least one more season that's for sure now. However there is still a possibility for him to leave after that if PSG still fail in reaching even the Champions League finale and winning the title for the first time finally. I know that he has a huge contract in hand but it isn't like there is no other team can make him have the same conditions.

In that case Real Madrid would be his first choice undoubtedly. Because Real Madrid were even nearly signing him before if it weren't for PSG's huge contract offer to him. But I don't think Mbappe cares about only money. He must be wishing to win bigger titles like the Champions League.
Yes, it seems that Mbappe still has goals with PSG, it is possible to achieve the target, which is to win the UCL next season, which has not been achieved so far as long as Mbappe is at PSG, but I think after Messi's departure, of course Mbappe needs players who can be assists for Mbappe to score goals in opponent's goal.

PSG need to overhaul their players a lot to get better next season especially as we know they always fail in the last 16 of the UCL, so of course PSG need talented young players to be able to fill the void in their squad team at PSG, for example also in defense. which is very important to make the defense stronger besides their front line.

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June 09, 2023, 08:25:42 AM
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Why do you say that Mbappe is selfish?
Even if you can see Mbappe's achievements, who always gave a very strong performance in every match and brought Paris SG to the top of league 1 this season.
It's not that Paris SG's failure in the champion's league was the cause of Mbappe, but indeed Paris SG is not strong enough to compete with other clubs in the champion's league.
But I agree that Paris SG must immediately look for new players who are superior to be able to welcome the champions league.
Yes it's true, there is no point in blaming Mbappe because PSG failed to win the UCL because of their selfishness. In my opinion, PSG must find the right coach to manage PSG and their star players. We know that PSG owners are very ambitious to win the UCL league trophy. That is clearly their main target, PSG.

However, the step taken by PSG by bringing in top and experienced players in the UCL, such as Ramos, Messi, Donnaruma and coupled with Neymar, Mbappe plus the other best PSG squad, is actually not the best and quick solution. Nothing is instant and fast, let alone to dominate Europe in the UCL event. Everything takes a long process, Real Madrid and the Los Galacticos squad themselves took a long time to become UCL champions. But now that these star players have left PSG, it's time for PSG to look for new players and make a solid team for next season.

 
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June 09, 2023, 08:37:26 AM
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Finally Mbappe gets what he wanted in last few seasons. He became a only and biggest super star in PSG after Messi and likely Neymar departures. Now he will have a bigger responsibility to carry PSG to titles. He will have to show that he is able to shine without Messi and Neymar.

It is time for Mbappe to show his talent and high ego.

Mbappe is indeed a player with good talent. but with him going to shine alone at PSG, I'm not sure it can lead PSG to the Champions League title they want. even with Neymar and Messi in the team, PSG is also having problems in the UCL. and it will not be easy to force Mbappe to fend for himself up front.
PSG will definitely make several player purchases to support Mbappe on the front lines.
It is right that Mbappe has found his way by going to be come the only and undisputed super star of PSG. Looking at it from the unity part,  I can say that it will be a win win case for both Mbappe and PSG, as Mbappe will settle his ego while PSG will pay lesser wage due to the departure of Messi and Neymar,  and also the division in the team created by the influence of the triplet star will no longer exist. It is either you are in the click of Mbappe or you remain silent and then the coach won't have too much problem managing individual players and all efforts would be channel to learning to play good football.

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June 09, 2023, 09:08:30 AM
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PSG spent a lot of money and signed several star players. Even then their performance was not good. Even though the Ligue 1 teams are not very strong, the PSG team cannot perform well. Even PSG spent a lot of money to win the Champions League title. But their performance in the Champions League was worse. Even though they have a lot of money, PSG management can buy star players even if Messi and Neymar leave the team. We will see a lot of star players in PSG's squad next season as well. However, Ligue 1 is not very competitive. And I think the Newcastle team is much stronger than PSG right now. Because the Premier League is very competitive. The standards of Ligue 1 teams are much lower than Premier League teams.
In last few years, PSG spend huge funds for the win of Champions League, but sadly they have never been spent money for having good combination of winning players which is more important instead of having many stars to win any cup because this is never been ideal to win just because of having star players.

They need to work on their structure which helps them for having few players which give them good backup and also having good mentality for staying positive for any competition in French Ligue 1 they have no good team which give them challenge, so they are able to have better result in Champions League.

Now they are losing all stars and having no way to go with Zidane is not interested to join them as coach with this now their best choice is Mourinho which is also well experienced coach and can bring better results, but they need to work on long term instead of after spending huge funds on star players for win the big title.
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June 09, 2023, 09:44:49 AM
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Despite failing to get a place in the champions league next season it seems that Rennes will be quite happy to be in the European league zone next season. Even though they started the season quite well with a lot of wins, it's just that in the middle of the season they lacked consistency so that they failed to get at least 3rd place in the standings. This season Rennes got 21 wins from 38 matches and in the last 5 matches they got 4 wins, in fact it still counts as a pretty good result this season for Rennes.
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June 09, 2023, 09:55:47 AM
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This season the gap between PSG and Lens was not too big and Lens could even take their place if they didn't lose points in this season is some matches they had, because of this little gap and bad performance in PSG I think the owner of PSG will not spend money like this for the next season be they invested once and they didn't get good results. These people are wise enough to take lessons from the mistakes they had.
Or maybe they will spend even more to hire better players than what they had.

PSG's ambition to pursue the UCL trophy is quite large. even though they always fail, but I think they will still be looking for some players for the transfer market this summer. moreover they were left behind by several important players in the squad. of course if you want to compete PSG have to spend quite a lot this season. unless they only want to dominate Ligue 1 without having a UCL target like in previous seasons.
I want to see what steps Paris Saint Germain will take after they are left with their star players, will they buy star players again, or will they change their habits by relying on a lot of young players. It would be interesting if they did the second option, namely by increasing the number of players with the potential to become big players in the future.

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I heard that on the news when they said Nagelsmann is going to join PSG for the next season and they think the reason of their team failed in this season was because of the bad coach they had.
If Nagelsmann gets better results in PSG I think Bayern Munich will feel regret.
Now indeed the talk of Nagelsmann and PSG is increasingly being heard and I see this is another name apart from Conte and Zidane who are currently still busy talking about PSG.
This is indeed a viable option rather than still having to hope for Galtier even though he is a good coach but for PSG this is still very lacking.
Several other conditions emerged from Henry now because indeed he said if Nagelsmann went to PSG then he was ready to be his assistant.
After end of the season, we have too many rumors about PSG and their future with many star players are already on their way for new clubs and few are having talks in progress with PSG management is also looking for the coach which able to give them Champions League with their first choice Zidane is already reject offer which is surely embarrassing for them but no one can do anything regarding this, so now we have two more names in their with Naglsmann and Mourinho which can join them, but it's too early with Conte is also in list which is interested so how things will be ended we have to wait for the official statement because right now all just news from different sources nothing from main parties.

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June 09, 2023, 10:18:13 AM
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Is this and end of an era for PSG dream team ? They didn't win UCL and now everyone seems to leave or about to leave next year.

I know the Messi situation will continue to be on front page on every newspaper but I really believe that his move to Inter is bad one as he still has a lot to offer to football in Europe but I guess after he full filled his dream to win WC , his desire to play top football is kinda gone. In MLS , he will  simply destroy them but he has to be mega careful to avoid injuries because those players are not used to what Messi will do to them.  Grin

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