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June 12, 2023, 10:13:06 AM
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After mid-season we lost Ronaldo who went to the saudi league team, now we also lost Messi who played for the MLS team, it seems we will miss the days without the two GOATs and I think this might be a new era for other young players to continue the football tradition in Europe.

Coming back to Ligue 1, I think that the contribution this season has been extraordinary with PSG is just that the fans are turning a blind eye to Messi's achievements and I think this is the right decision for Messi to end his career in Europe because he has won everything for football.
To be honest, when I heard about PSG fans mocking Messi's performance for not being able to give the team the UCL trophy, I see Messi's decision to move as a wise decision.  GOAT will continue to change and we will see other top young European players who replace the two old stars.

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June 12, 2023, 10:15:29 AM
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After mid-season we lost Ronaldo who went to the saudi league team, now we also lost Messi who played for the MLS team, it seems we will miss the days without the two GOATs and I think this might be a new era for other young players to continue the football tradition in Europe.

Coming back to Ligue 1, I think that the contribution this season has been extraordinary with PSG is just that the fans are turning a blind eye to Messi's achievements and I think this is the right decision for Messi to end his career in Europe because he has won everything for football.
To be honest, when I heard about PSG fans mocking Messi's performance for not being able to give the team the UCL trophy, I see Messi's decision to move as a wise decision.  GOAT will continue to change and we will see other top young European players who replace the two old stars.
I also personally think that Lionel Messi has been better off without PSG in the team. Because of this, Lionel Messi could not improve his career more in the team. At the next club Inter Miami I believe Lionel Messi will match himself wonderfully.

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June 12, 2023, 10:29:03 AM
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It wasn't a great year in Paris for Messi. He hasn't played there for long. He was received with applause, but was regularly booed by the French public in the last period. What would eventually be the reason that he was no longer loved by the public? People came to the stadium to see him, but somehow that has completely changed. He has done some things that you cannot do a few times, such as not attending a training because you are going on holiday in Saudi Arabia. You don't make yourself popular with that. But it is also not a question of who will become champion in France. Messi must have left France disappointed.

This year as maybe not a good year for Messi because they didn't respect him as they should respect him, in fact, he didn't get what he had to get from the fans and that's why the performance of this player was not well enough. I think Messi is still a good player and he could help PSG much better than this if they helped this player and gave him a good atmosphere.
Messi did not get the respect he deserved from his teammates and team management during his last season at PSG. And PSG fans were furious with Messi as well, which led to Messi joining another club at the end of the season with PSG. 

Lionel Messi is undoubtedly a legendary player who deserves as much respect as a legendary player deserves. After leaving Messi, PSG club will start the new season in a new way. Before the start of the new season, there may be another change in the team. Neymar may leave PSG this season because, like Messi, Neymar is no longer wanted by PSG fans and PSC management.
I think Lionel Messi was not used well by the PSG team. Because with Lionel Messi you can achieve something unique. I think the PSG coach doesn't know how to use Lionel Messi. If Lionel Messi got a coach like Pep Guardiola, he would have created history by now.
It may be a good point that Messi was not well used by PSG club coach. Messi's coach needs a person who understands football better than Messi and a coach who takes into consideration how to organize the team according to the opponent. In this case, PSG club needed Pep Guardiola or Zinedine Zidane could have been a good choice for PSG. But PSG failed to do so, resulting in a conflict between their club's players that never ended. 
If Zinedine Zidane were to take charge of PSG I think he would have been able to remove the chaos in the dressing room and if the chaos in the dressing room was gone then PSG would definitely be better on the field.

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June 12, 2023, 11:57:18 AM
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To be honest, when I heard about PSG fans mocking Messi's performance for not being able to give the team the UCL trophy, I see Messi's decision to move as a wise decision.  GOAT will continue to change and we will see other top young European players who replace the two old stars.

Almost all of parties in PSG were not even putting respects to him again. That's why messi has been deciding to leave from PSG rather than try to extending his contract. As far as i remember that if messi has also got a new contract from PSG but messi was rejecting it.
It's caused by he was not feeling confidence anymore to stay even longer in PSG. Im so glad that messi was leaving from PSG but the problem is if messi was leaving to the garbage club.
I don't wanna to mocking intermiami but i just said about the truth if intermiami was the garbage team in MLS. It seems like that his decision move to the intermiami caused by he wanna make miami to go up from the bottom or even winning MLS next season.
Messi has been taking the worst decision. I don't know what has been targeting by messi and it seems like he was going there due to the his wife.

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June 12, 2023, 02:08:33 PM
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I think Lionel Messi was not used well by the PSG team. Because with Lionel Messi you can achieve something unique. I think the PSG coach doesn't know how to use Lionel Messi. If Lionel Messi got a coach like Pep Guardiola, he would have created history by now.
It may be a good point that Messi was not well used by PSG club coach. Messi's coach needs a person who understands football better than Messi and a coach who takes into consideration how to organize the team according to the opponent. In this case, PSG club needed Pep Guardiola or Zinedine Zidane could have been a good choice for PSG. But PSG failed to do so, resulting in a conflict between their club's players that never ended. 
If Zinedine Zidane were to take charge of PSG I think he would have been able to remove the chaos in the dressing room and if the chaos in the dressing room was gone then PSG would definitely be better on the field.
What do you expect getting the manager from nice or lille or whatever. This dude wasn't all that great even when he was hired and of course he utilized Messi terribly as well. If you want to win UCL then you need a manager that has won UCL before or at least got close to it, Galtier was a horrible move even when I first heard about him, and it is still a terrible manager for PSG today. He is a great player for some midtable or even a top table French team but not PSG, they have other ambitions.

I think they seriously up the price on Zidane, if he wants world record salary then just pay him. In any case, Messi is gone now so there is nothing they can do about it, but it was obvious from the start of the season that they will be bad this season, they got lucky with league title.

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June 12, 2023, 02:13:23 PM
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I think Lionel Messi was not used well by the PSG team. Because with Lionel Messi you can achieve something unique. I think the PSG coach doesn't know how to use Lionel Messi. If Lionel Messi got a coach like Pep Guardiola, he would have created history by now.
It may be a good point that Messi was not well used by PSG club coach. Messi's coach needs a person who understands football better than Messi and a coach who takes into consideration how to organize the team according to the opponent. In this case, PSG club needed Pep Guardiola or Zinedine Zidane could have been a good choice for PSG. But PSG failed to do so, resulting in a conflict between their club's players that never ended. 
If Zinedine Zidane were to take charge of PSG I think he would have been able to remove the chaos in the dressing room and if the chaos in the dressing room was gone then PSG would definitely be better on the field.
What do you expect getting the manager from nice or lille or whatever. This dude wasn't all that great even when he was hired and of course he utilized Messi terribly as well. If you want to win UCL then you need a manager that has won UCL before or at least got close to it, Galtier was a horrible move even when I first heard about him, and it is still a terrible manager for PSG today. He is a great player for some midtable or even a top table French team but not PSG, they have other ambitions.

I think they seriously up the price on Zidane, if he wants world record salary then just pay him. In any case, Messi is gone now so there is nothing they can do about it, but it was obvious from the start of the season that they will be bad this season, they got lucky with league title.
Messi's departure from the PSG team is very beneficial, PSG team may also benefit from this and Lionel Messi's post-late career is expected to be amazing. Let's see what kind of performance Lionel Messi does in the Miami team.

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June 12, 2023, 02:23:32 PM
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It's not just the coach and most likely it's entire club who are lacking a winner mentality outside France. They had the players , they have the budget and yet every year their ego goes bigger than before and now they lost those important key players and they should re-thing to rebuild from next year or maybe ...do something and unite the players more than before.
It seems true but the head coach will become centre of problem. Remember when neymar had conflict with the club. It seems like that galtier was never try to making the condition in the club became condussive.
So much money already wasted only for league 1. messi player 2 years in PSG but he was not able performing like when he was playing at barcelona.
Losing messi and neymar at the same time is a big lose for PSG. Mbappe's contract will expire next year. Real madrid was also waiting to take him.



Who will coach PSG now ? I don't see a great coach being available this summer for them.
Im not sure about this since there was no a strong candidate appeared. I remember that last week PSG already linked to the naglesmann but i dunno what progress that already happened between PSG and naglesmann.

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June 12, 2023, 02:31:17 PM
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So much money already wasted only for league 1. messi player 2 years in PSG but he was not able performing like when he was playing at barcelona.
Losing messi and neymar at the same time is a big lose for PSG. Mbappe's contract will expire next year. Real madrid was also waiting to take him.

Messi's hope to perform as well as in Barcelona with his age and era that is almost over is actually a ridiculous hope because after all that is definitely not going to happen.
PSG brought Messi, I think the main reason is not their desire to see Messi the same as in La Liga, especially in his golden era. Even though in the end his performance was still above average, another reason was business because they realized that the conditions for bringing Goat players to popularity were clearly much higher.

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June 12, 2023, 02:36:42 PM
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It's not just the coach and most likely it's entire club who are lacking a winner mentality outside France. They had the players , they have the budget and yet every year their ego goes bigger than before and now they lost those important key players and they should re-thing to rebuild from next year or maybe ...do something and unite the players more than before.
It seems true but the head coach will become centre of problem. Remember when neymar had conflict with the club. It seems like that galtier was never try to making the condition in the club became condussive.
So much money already wasted only for league 1. messi player 2 years in PSG but he was not able performing like when he was playing at barcelona.
Losing messi and neymar at the same time is a big lose for PSG. Mbappe's contract will expire next year. Real madrid was also waiting to take him.



Who will coach PSG now ? I don't see a great coach being available this summer for them.
Im not sure about this since there was no a strong candidate appeared. I remember that last week PSG already linked to the naglesmann but i dunno what progress that already happened between PSG and naglesmann.

I personally have an opinion about Nagelsmann, that if for example it is true that Nagelsmann will become head coach at PSG but I think, it seems that Nagelsmann is also not very right to become head coach at PSG. Because after all, Nagelsmann at Bayern Munich was also only successful in his first season when there was Lewandowski but after Lewandowski left for Barcelona, in fact Nagelsmann could not get results as smooth as before. Therefore, I think PSG still have to get a more appropriate coach, meaning a coach who is used to forming a team with a star squad.

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June 12, 2023, 03:02:25 PM
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After mid-season we lost Ronaldo who went to the saudi league team, now we also lost Messi who played for the MLS team, it seems we will miss the days without the two GOATs and I think this might be a new era for other young players to continue the football tradition in Europe.

Coming back to Ligue 1, I think that the contribution this season has been extraordinary with PSG is just that the fans are turning a blind eye to Messi's achievements and I think this is the right decision for Messi to end his career in Europe because he has won everything for football.
To be honest, when I heard about PSG fans mocking Messi's performance for not being able to give the team the UCL trophy, I see Messi's decision to move as a wise decision.  GOAT will continue to change and we will see other top young European players who replace the two old stars.
Messi cannot remain a goat forever, he is an aged player I don't see why fans will be putting blame on him for the failure of PSG not winning the champions league. Right now Messi is in a state were by he won't be able to do the things he used to do in the past 5 years, people shouldn't expect much from him.
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June 12, 2023, 03:02:41 PM
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It's not just the coach and most likely it's entire club who are lacking a winner mentality outside France. They had the players , they have the budget and yet every year their ego goes bigger than before and now they lost those important key players and they should re-thing to rebuild from next year or maybe ...do something and unite the players more than before.
It seems true but the head coach will become centre of problem. Remember when neymar had conflict with the club. It seems like that galtier was never try to making the condition in the club became condussive.
So much money already wasted only for league 1. messi player 2 years in PSG but he was not able performing like when he was playing at barcelona.
Losing messi and neymar at the same time is a big lose for PSG. Mbappe's contract will expire next year. Real madrid was also waiting to take him.



Who will coach PSG now ? I don't see a great coach being available this summer for them.
Im not sure about this since there was no a strong candidate appeared. I remember that last week PSG already linked to the naglesmann but i dunno what progress that already happened between PSG and naglesmann.

I personally have an opinion about Nagelsmann, that if for example it is true that Nagelsmann will become head coach at PSG but I think, it seems that Nagelsmann is also not very right to become head coach at PSG. Because after all, Nagelsmann at Bayern Munich was also only successful in his first season when there was Lewandowski but after Lewandowski left for Barcelona, in fact Nagelsmann could not get results as smooth as before. Therefore, I think PSG still have to get a more appropriate coach, meaning a coach who is used to forming a team with a star squad.
The future of the PSG team is really a matter of concern. Because some of the big players have already left the team such as Lionel Messi, Sergio Ramos, Neymar may leave in the future. Only Kylian Mbappe will play this season, maybe next season if there is a big offer for Kylian Mbappe, he may leave the team.

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June 12, 2023, 03:04:51 PM
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Paris saint german next season.

No messi
No Neymar - potentially.
No ramos
No mbappe next year

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If Mbappe's deal with PSG is not extended to 2025, he would be open to negotiate a free transfer to a non-French club beginning in January 2024, with a view to moving at the end of the 2023/24 campaign.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/soccer/news/when-kylian-mbappe-leaving-psg-contract-end-expiry-free-agent/yiva73njovrgddl0bswwri3c#:~:text=If%20Mbappe's%20deal%20with%20PSG,of%20the%202023%2F24%20campaign.

I can imagine when PSG will be playing without any superstars on its club. This team gonna get factory reset again. As you can see that if PSG is not even determining who will become its new coach even when we are very close to the summer transfer season.
It seemed to me if PSG will be going back again as ordinary team in the league 1. It's not as a team with so many superstars like the previous seasons.
There will be so many things gonna happen with PSG.


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June 12, 2023, 03:31:18 PM
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Of a truth it wasn't a great year for Lionel Messi at PSG but  I think it's high time we start to accept the fact that Messi is aging and wouldn't still be performing like the Lionel Messi of 6 to 10 years ago.
He exhausted much energy in the world cup Last year and after the World Cup tournament, he also can back to Paris and still did quite well. PSG fans didn't respect him in his last days at the club which is very poor for them
Good to see how time flies in football, the undisputed GOAT do part ways with European football. When PSG concedes a goal, fans boo Leo Messi as if he's the one on the backlines or the club's goalkeeper. We should give credit to Messi because he has done a good job by rendering his service where it matters most for the club, he's a terrific and top-tier player. Leo Messi cannot give PSG the same performance he gave Barcelona and Argentina; he is aged, and certain attributes he lost throughout games. Leo Messi is a global figure in football, as every fan knows, and he has had a successful year in his career.
This is no more the limelight days of Messi.  He is aging and will soon retire. His ability gradually reduces but he is still giving his best. the reaction from fans toward Leo was quite uncalled for. Forgetting that apart from scoring goals in every match, Leonel Messi has a very significant role to play.  A role that Neymar not Mbappe will be keen. If I were in Messi's shoes, I will have no choice than leave a team who doesn't appreciate my loyalty and sacrifices. Messi knows where he will be respected for his skills and abilities,  I'm in support going to the Saudi Arabia League as his fellow legend did.
Lionel Messi has been let go by PSG, now it's time to see what player his club brings. Also in the next season the Lens team has prepared itself to perform exceptionally well. I am very optimistic that the Lens team will fight PSG very well next season.

I also think that the decision to leave PSG is the best as honestly he did not contribute that much to PSG in the season he played with them.PSG has been winning the league title easily these last years and their main focus has been the Champions League which they have a final there that they lost.I think Messi was bought exactly for this reason to give them the Champions League title and as long as he did not achieve that it is better to leave as he is old in age,he is not going to improve in the coming years.

The players who joined PSG this season were usually choosing this team over other teams just because of earning more money there and nothing else, the reason for Messi left Barcelona was just because of the financial situation in Barcelona they couldn't supply the salary he needs that's why he joined PSG, you can't expect to see more from players where they give money more priority than other things.


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June 12, 2023, 03:40:19 PM
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Paris saint german next season.

No messi
No Neymar - potentially.
No ramos
No mbappe next year

I can imagine when PSG will be playing without any superstars on its club. This team gonna get factory reset again. As you can see that if PSG is not even determining who will become its new coach even when we are very close to the summer transfer season.
It seemed to me if PSG will be going back again as ordinary team in the league 1. It's not as a team with so many superstars like the previous seasons.
There will be so many things gonna happen with PSG.
PSG without superstars seems like that won't happen either, in the transfer market later they won't sit idly by, and I think they will target a lot of superstar players. Also if there is no Messi and Ramos doesn't seem to much take effect for PSG in Liga 1, because they still have Mbappe there, although there are a lot of rumors about Mbappe next season but I think PSG may can persuaded him with money.

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June 12, 2023, 04:00:50 PM
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The players who joined PSG this season were usually choosing this team over other teams just because of earning more money there and nothing else, the reason for Messi left Barcelona was just because of the financial situation in Barcelona they couldn't supply the salary he needs that's why he joined PSG, you can't expect to see more from players where they give money more priority than other things.


Let's think in reality how is it possible for top players to play with high performance but with unclear salaries or even wages in debt.
I think it's only natural that Messi chose to leave Barcelona for a bigger salary because who wants to work hard as a top football player with a salary that doesn't match.
So Messi thought more realistically and chose Paris SG and has now moved to Inter Miami with a bigger payout as well.

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June 12, 2023, 04:14:44 PM
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The players who joined PSG this season were usually choosing this team over other teams just because of earning more money there and nothing else, the reason for Messi left Barcelona was just because of the financial situation in Barcelona they couldn't supply the salary he needs that's why he joined PSG, you can't expect to see more from players where they give money more priority than other things.


Let's think in reality how is it possible for top players to play with high performance but with unclear salaries or even wages in debt.
I think it's only natural that Messi chose to leave Barcelona for a bigger salary because who wants to work hard as a top football player with a salary that doesn't match.
So Messi thought more realistically and chose Paris SG and has now moved to Inter Miami with a bigger payout as well.
There is a rumor that Lionel Messi will join Barcelona after one season at Inter Miami, if anyone knows how true that is. But in my personal opinion, Lionel Messi's football career needs to end in Barcelona. Because it was Barcelona that gave football to Lionel Messi.

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June 12, 2023, 04:27:33 PM
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The players who joined PSG this season were usually choosing this team over other teams just because of earning more money there and nothing else, the reason for Messi left Barcelona was just because of the financial situation in Barcelona they couldn't supply the salary he needs that's why he joined PSG, you can't expect to see more from players where they give money more priority than other things.


Let's think in reality how is it possible for top players to play with high performance but with unclear salaries or even wages in debt.
I think it's only natural that Messi chose to leave Barcelona for a bigger salary because who wants to work hard as a top football player with a salary that doesn't match.
So Messi thought more realistically and chose Paris SG and has now moved to Inter Miami with a bigger payout as well.
There is a rumor that Lionel Messi will join Barcelona after one season at Inter Miami, if anyone knows how true that is. But in my personal opinion, Lionel Messi's football career needs to end in Barcelona. Because it was Barcelona that gave football to Lionel Messi.
I think its just a rumor at this point i agree with you i think he should retire at barcelona but unfortunatly he still want to play football and i don't think he is considering retirement so there is a high chance he will make it back to barca when he's ready to kick the bucket i think one of  the main reasons he chose miami is because of barcelona financial situation and they can't afford him.
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June 12, 2023, 04:32:24 PM
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Yeah Messi has left and Neymar is also about to join him about leaving the team. Because according to the latest news, Al-Hilal team is seriously thinking of making an official offer for Neymar soon. Saudi Arabian teams have been after every player who is getting old day by day. They couldn't become successful about signing Messi so they are after Neymar instead now.

Neymar's salary right now is €36m per year. This is like nothing for Saudi Arabian teams. Oil money is like unlimited.  Grin  I don't know maybe Neymar would like to stall them a little bit just to see if he can get an offer inside Europe. Because he is much younger than Messi and he might still be competitive for winning Champions League titles.

But who knows maybe most of us will be wrong about Neymar and he will decide to stay instead. This might happen maybe if he doesn't get any offer inside Europe.

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June 12, 2023, 05:12:37 PM
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Of a truth it wasn't a great year for Lionel Messi at PSG but  I think it's high time we start to accept the fact that Messi is aging and wouldn't still be performing like the Lionel Messi of 6 to 10 years ago.
He exhausted much energy in the world cup Last year and after the World Cup tournament, he also can back to Paris and still did quite well. PSG fans didn't respect him in his last days at the club which is very poor from them
Good to see how time flies in football, the undisputed GOAT do part ways to European football. When PSG concedes a goal, fans boo Leo Messi as if he's the one on the backlines or the club's goalkeeper. We should give credit to Messi, because he's has done a good job by rendering his service where it matters most for the club, he's a terrific and top-tier player. Leo Messi cannot give PSG the same performance he gave Barcelona and Argentina; he is aged, and certain attributes he lost throughout games. Leo Messi is a global figure in football, as every fan knows, and he has had a successful year in his career.
After mid-season we lost Ronaldo who went to the saudi league team, now we also lost Messi who played for the MLS team, it seems we will miss the days without the two GOATs and I think this might be a new era for other young players to continue the football tradition in Europe.

Coming back to Ligue 1, I think that the contribution this season has been extraordinary with PSG is just that the fans are turning a blind eye to Messi's achievements and I think this is the right decision for Messi to end his career in Europe because he has won everything for football.

The rivalry has kind of ended a few years ago already. It was a bit of a slow process for us fans to understand that the big times between the two GOATs are over. I will definitely miss those times as it is still hard to imagine that we will get to see something like that again within our lifetime. We have been quite lucky to see Messi vs. Ronaldo in soccer and Federer, Nadal and Djokovic in tennis. I don't think that even Mbappe and Haaland can get close to that. If you take the number of individual titles or Ballon d'Ors, what is the chance that Haaland and Mbappe will 12 of them in the next 13 years? Cheesy

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The rivalry has kind of ended a few years ago already. It was a bit of a slow process for us fans to understand that the big times between the two GOATs are over. I will definitely miss those times as it is still hard to imagine that we will get to see something like that again within our lifetime. We have been quite lucky to see Messi vs. Ronaldo in soccer and Federer, Nadal and Djokovic in tennis. I don't think that even Mbappe and Haaland can get close to that. If you take the number of individual titles or Ballon d'Ors, what is the chance that Haaland and Mbappe will 12 of them in the next 13 years? Cheesy
Time has passed and indeed the era of rivals for a goat is now over and of course we will look forward to other rivals because there will definitely be something like that.
Haaland can still do it and I'm pretty confident about that, as for Mbappe, it depends on the result I think. He is a very good player only when he is money-oriented thinking and still remains at PSG even though he has talent and is very good he still will not be able to enter the real realm.

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