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November 16, 2023, 07:12:37 PM
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I don't think Lyon can beat Lille in such condition. I mean they had huge difficulties in doing that even while they were having a better season previously. Lille were the better playing side in that game but Lyon still won by 1-0 home. But now the situation is really worrisome for Lyon. That win over Rennes wasn't even easy one.

Because despite Rennes' getting a very early red card Lyon still had big difficulties. They even let the game become more balanced in the second half. I can't trust this Lyon for betting as a result. But I wouldn't bet on Lille either as a similar scenario might happen and it would find me.  Grin
Lyon this season has really slumped based on its performance. They only achieved 1 win in 11 matches, and that was because they had a 1 player advantage since the first half. Lyon's defense was very poor, while the performance of the attackers was also not very good. Lyon have only been able to score 9 goals in 11 matches, while they have conceded 19 goals so far.

I think Lyon could be relegated this season if they don't recover from this slump quickly, but it won't be as easy as turning the palm of the hand. Lyon will have to invest more in their players in the next transfer window to improve their squad depth, but fixing the current player performance and confidence issues is the main focus of the coach. I'm not sure what the biggest problem is this season, but they've been really bad.

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November 16, 2023, 07:14:35 PM
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No chance for marseille to enter into the title race. The club can only finish at the middle position. Marseille can go up as long as it will get winstreak which is quite impossible at this moment. Lens is struggling at league 1 but it has better performance in UCL.
I think that lens put UCL as the main aim caused by the club can farm money from there instead of french league which is still running till next year. Lens was beating marseille with narrow score.

The game between lens vs marseille was quite boring with only around 5 shots on target in total being made in this match. I don't like this kind of match when two teams were playing passively without even try to explore it even more to get the weakness spot of its opponent.
Aubameyang is a useless striker right now. No doubt if there was no big european club that was willing to take him anymore. he has lost his prime
marseille may also try to replace him with better striker to help the club in achieving three points from its opponent.

Marsielle has been performing in their league but they just haven't been performing well, they're in the bottom section of the table and they've undoubtedly been struggling to secure wins. Their counterpart Lens have been performing better in the UCL than their domestic league, for me they'd have focused their time, strength and ability on their domestic league where they'd even have more possibilities of securing a good spot than the Champions league where there'd be struggling to even secure a spot in the round of 16 without talking of the other subsequent stages in the contest.
 
 Marsielle should build up themselves more to stay on track in the league, they still have enough time ahead of them and positive outcomes can be actualized, but then it can't be actualized if they don't put in more effort on the pitch to get better than they're doing currently.

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November 16, 2023, 07:22:26 PM
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I don't think Lyon can beat Lille in such condition. I mean they had huge difficulties in doing that even while they were having a better season previously. Lille were the better playing side in that game but Lyon still won by 1-0 home. But now the situation is really worrisome for Lyon. That win over Rennes wasn't even easy one.

Because despite Rennes' getting a very early red card Lyon still had big difficulties. They even let the game become more balanced in the second half. I can't trust this Lyon for betting as a result. But I wouldn't bet on Lille either as a similar scenario might happen and it would find me.  Grin

win against Rennes was Lyon's first win since this season started and the conditions were quite worrying, especially as you said, Rennes played with 10 players from the 5th minute but Lyon was unable to score more than one goal in that match. It seems that Lyon's hopes of getting out of the relegation zone will be very difficult, if they are not able to improve the quality of their game, Lyon played quite well last season, they even managed to stop in 7th position, but this season they failed to maintain the consistency of their performance.



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November 16, 2023, 07:28:20 PM
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I guess nobody nobody thought the table would be looking like this for Olympique Lyon after 11 games, but this trend looks so bad for them that I also doubt that they will recover from that. Because this is not just about bad results, but about having the second weakest offense of the league. 7 points after eleven games doesn't look like an outlier that will soon be corrected. This could a fierce fight until the last day against the relegation zone.
Lyon's recent form makes it clear that they are in a difficult situation. Their problem is more complex (possibly even internal) than a few poor performances. Only one victory in eleven games is a clear sign that something is wrong. Conversely, there are clubs like PSG that feature stars like Kylian Mbappé, who is still a powerful force in sports even though he hasnt won the Ballon d'Or. The circumstances of Lyon are very different from these elite teams. They must immediately reevaluate and deal with these internal problems. Not only is it important to make up ground today, but restructuring is also necessary for a more secure future in the league.
That internal conflict that they have must be solved, maybe a new owner would be a lot better, it would make sense for the club because we are talking about someone who could takeover the club and spend money and hire the right people. I do not know who owns it right now, but it's obvious that they are not doing a good job at it and they should be avoiding that owner as much as possible.

No team like that should be playing like this, they are really doing terrible and I feel like the best thing to do right now would be just avoiding the situation as much as possible. I get that money is a trouble, so finding a richer owner would make it even better for them on the long run and allow them to make it a bigger club for sure.
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November 16, 2023, 07:45:47 PM
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I don't think Lyon can beat Lille in such condition. I mean they had huge difficulties in doing that even while they were having a better season previously. Lille were the better playing side in that game but Lyon still won by 1-0 home. But now the situation is really worrisome for Lyon. That win over Rennes wasn't even easy one.

Because despite Rennes' getting a very early red card Lyon still had big difficulties. They even let the game become more balanced in the second half. I can't trust this Lyon for betting as a result. But I wouldn't bet on Lille either as a similar scenario might happen and it would find me.  Grin
Lille performance is still quite good, while Lyon is very bad because their performance has really fall this season. Winning in the previous match against Rennes was also not an impressive victory with a score of 1-0, especially Rennes also unstable this season. So I agree with you, betting on Lyon in the match against Lille is not a good option, there is a possibility that the final result will be a draw or Lille win. As for Lyon victory, I personally also doubt it too.

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November 16, 2023, 09:35:17 PM
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But do you really think the players have a button that they can push so they instantly focus less on the Champions League, just let it go and lose there in order to more focus on the domestic league? Isn't that nonsense in your opinion? Players give everything they have for a whole year, celebrate that they managed to qualify for the Champions League and then you think they sit together with the coach and say: let's dump the Champions League and play at 70% so we can give more of our energy for Ligue 1? Cheesy
Definitely that's not the case, no one would want to at any point think such because I think every football lover would definitely know that there's a dynamics to these things and it's not about the players been told or controlled to focus more on one league as against the other,it's basically tactics at times.

But some times based on priority, coaches may sometimes try out certain tactics in some of the leagues and wouldn't use same in the others, like the champions league which happens to be very competitive and it's amongst teams drawn from different leagues, definitely the approach will differ from that which will be used in their domestic leagues because there's a pattern that varies across different leagues and that's why sometimes it will look as if focus was redirected.

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November 16, 2023, 09:43:10 PM
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win against Rennes was Lyon's first win since this season started and the conditions were quite worrying, especially as you said, Rennes played with 10 players from the 5th minute but Lyon was unable to score more than one goal in that match. It seems that Lyon's hopes of getting out of the relegation zone will be very difficult, if they are not able to improve the quality of their game, Lyon played quite well last season, they even managed to stop in 7th position, but this season they failed to maintain the consistency of their performance.
It can't be a benchmark because in the end winning with superior numbers of players will only be considered as a fairness in this case but at least with the 3 points they managed to get in the match against Rennes last week this can improve their spirit which is quite bleak because they never get a victory in the first 10 matches they do. Facing Lille this could be a very tough test again but they have good momentum so don't let momentum like this be damaged again with a defeat so as much as possible they should try to make this a point even if they can't make 3 points if it's too difficult but they have to force a draw so that their performance does not decline again after gaining momentum.

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November 16, 2023, 10:21:29 PM
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That internal conflict that they have must be solved, maybe a new owner would be a lot better, it would make sense for the club because we are talking about someone who could takeover the club and spend money and hire the right people. I do not know who owns it right now, but it's obvious that they are not doing a good job at it and they should be avoiding that owner as much as possible.

No team like that should be playing like this, they are really doing terrible and I feel like the best thing to do right now would be just avoiding the situation as much as possible. I get that money is a trouble, so finding a richer owner would make it even better for them on the long run and allow them to make it a bigger club for sure.
Lyon might have secured their 1st win this season in their last match against Rennes but it's not enough cause they're still at the very bottom of the league, however they're lucky that the league is not yet close to it's late stages if not they won't have missed being relegated, but I think there's still hope for them to get better this season, well with the way they've performed so far, one would be right to say that a new ownership of the club should be considered, to save the club from failing and strengthening them financially during the January window to help them sign new players and get out of the relegation zone.

 They'll be facing a team that's currently top four in the league and i doubt if they'll be able to win the game even though they'll be facing Lille with a home advantage, Lyon might have won Rennes but Lille is  stronger side and would really pressure pressure Lyon more to get the three points.

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November 16, 2023, 10:24:31 PM
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But do you really think the players have a button that they can push so they instantly focus less on the Champions League, just let it go and lose there in order to more focus on the domestic league? Isn't that nonsense in your opinion? Players give everything they have for a whole year, celebrate that they managed to qualify for the Champions League and then you think they sit together with the coach and say: let's dump the Champions League and play at 70% so we can give more of our energy for Ligue 1? Cheesy
Definitely that's not the case, no one would want to at any point think such because I think every football lover would definitely know that there's a dynamics to these things and it's not about the players been told or controlled to focus more on one league as against the other,it's basically tactics at times.

But some times based on priority, coaches may sometimes try out certain tactics in some of the leagues and wouldn't use same in the others, like the champions league which happens to be very competitive and it's amongst teams drawn from different leagues, definitely the approach will differ from that which will be used in their domestic leagues because there's a pattern that varies across different leagues and that's why sometimes it will look as if focus was redirected.

Yes but imagine you are the coach of Lens and you have this once in a lifetime chance, not only the players, but also the coach, to play agains the best teams in the world and then achieve the biggest dream ever and advance into the next round of the Champions League. I have not the slightest doubt that every coach on this planet would do the very best for the team and with the team to make it happen. There is no priority on Ligue 1 when you can advance to the next round in the biggest international football competition on the club level in the world.

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November 16, 2023, 10:32:40 PM
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After the international break there will be another interesting competition for us to watch when PSG succeeds in shifting Nice's position and in the upcoming match PSG will have to compete against Monaco while Monaco is currently having a very good performance because they know PSG's weaknesses and if PSG cannot get 3 points From Monaco, Nice will definitely take over first place in the League 1 points table.
Meanwhile, Nice will only compete against weak clubs like Toulouse, who have only got 2 wins since the start of the season, so it is very easy for Nice to get 3 points which can shift PSG's position.
However, it all depends on how the players at these two clubs are after the international break.
The game between Paris Saint Germaine and Monaco will be a very interesting match to watch because of how impressive the two teams have been this season in the French Ligue 1.
Monaco who are currently in the third position trailing league leaders with just three points knows that a win in that game will take them to the same number of points with Paris Saint Germaine.
That being said, I expect the league leaders to win that game because if how strong they are and the fact that they'll be playing at home in front of their home fans.

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November 16, 2023, 10:44:41 PM
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Lille performance is still quite good, while Lyon is very bad because their performance has really fall this season. Winning in the previous match against Rennes was also not an impressive victory with a score of 1-0, especially Rennes also unstable this season. So I agree with you, betting on Lyon in the match against Lille is not a good option, there is a possibility that the final result will be a draw or Lille win. As for Lyon victory, I personally also doubt it too.

It's really amazing how a club like Olympic Lyon is rocking the bottom of the table at the relegation zone, I mean Olympic Lyon have been of great impact to France ligue 1 over the years. Players like Michael Essien was groomed in Olympic Lyon before joining Chelsea where he recorded huge success, how about Karim Benzima he was also brought up in Olympic Lyon before he joined Real Madrid and achieved a great result. It baffles me that a great team like Olympic Lyon is at the bottom of the tables after playing 11 matches, won just one match, drew 4 and lost 6 matches.

Sometimes one thing that affects a club performance is selling most of their key players as the selling of their two players namely Lucas Paqueta and Bruno Guimaraes in 2022 was a very big loss to them and hence their poor performance. These two players was of great impact to Olympic Lyon before they were sold out.

I think the best option for Olympic Lyon is to buy more players in January transfer window as their current form now is nothing to write home about considering the fact that they have won the France league title for a record of 7 good times. They need to improve in their performance as being in the relegation zone of the league is not good for the club.

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Lille performance is still quite good, while Lyon is very bad because their performance has really fall this season. Winning in the previous match against Rennes was also not an impressive victory with a score of 1-0, especially Rennes also unstable this season. So I agree with you, betting on Lyon in the match against Lille is not a good option, there is a possibility that the final result will be a draw or Lille win. As for Lyon victory, I personally also doubt it too.

It's really amazing how a club like Olympic Lyon is rocking the bottom of the table at the relegation zone, I mean Olympic Lyon have been of great impact to France ligue 1 over the years. Players like Michael Essien was groomed in Olympic Lyon before joining Chelsea where he recorded huge success, how about Karim Benzima he was also brought up in Olympic Lyon before he joined Real Madrid and achieved a great result. It baffles me that a great team like Olympic Lyon is at the bottom of the tables after playing 11 matches, won just one match, drew 4 and lost 6 matches.

Sometimes one thing that affects a club performance is selling most of their key players as the selling of their two players namely Lucas Paqueta and Bruno Guimaraes in 2022 was a very big loss to them and hence their poor performance. These two players was of great impact to Olympic Lyon before they were sold out.

I think the best option for Olympic Lyon is to buy more players in January transfer window as their current form now is nothing to write home about considering the fact that they have won the France league title for a record of 7 good times. They need to improve in their performance as being in the relegation zone of the league is not good for the club.

Olympic Lyon is not in a good situation at all and they lost many points during this season so far. I was expecting to see better results for this team but unfortunately, in the 11 games, we saw in the French league Olympic Lyon won only one game in the last week against Rennes. Even if Olympic Lyon buys some players during the winter I think this team can't be in the Ligue 1 for the next season with the current situation they have.

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November 17, 2023, 12:43:53 AM
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After the international break there will be another interesting competition for us to watch when PSG succeeds in shifting Nice's position and in the upcoming match PSG will have to compete against Monaco while Monaco is currently having a very good performance because they know PSG's weaknesses and if PSG cannot get 3 points From Monaco, Nice will definitely take over first place in the League 1 points table.
Meanwhile, Nice will only compete against weak clubs like Toulouse, who have only got 2 wins since the start of the season, so it is very easy for Nice to get 3 points which can shift PSG's position.
However, it all depends on how the players at these two clubs are after the international break.


Another interesting and thrilling game to be seen this will be one of the last meetings for Kylian Mbappe to face his parent club Monaco who he won the League 1 first with.
With two goals and more scored at home by PSG this will sure be another wonderful game for total display also for Kylian to extend his goals. Monaco also have gained reduced points while playing from home. Monaco might have gone straight to the top three clubs even with some level of inconsistent. It will be hard game both sides are known for scoring many goals in games as this 

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November 17, 2023, 12:54:11 AM
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Lille performance is still quite good, while Lyon is very bad because their performance has really fall this season. Winning in the previous match against Rennes was also not an impressive victory with a score of 1-0, especially Rennes also unstable this season. So I agree with you, betting on Lyon in the match against Lille is not a good option, there is a possibility that the final result will be a draw or Lille win. As for Lyon victory, I personally also doubt it too.
Lille has the opportunity to secure full points in this match. They are superior with their strength in this match because their quality this season is more impressive than their opponents. Lyon, being the bottom team in the standings, will find it difficult to win when facing Lille. The only best chance in this match is of course betting on Lille winning. Lyon has only been able to achieve one win so far and they are still stuck in the bottom zone of the standing.

Ligue 1 this season is quite the opposite to last season because several big teams from last season are having difficulty maintaining their best form this season. PSG doesn't seem to have any difficulty this season in winning the Ligue 1 trophy again because they are back at the top of the standings. For Lens, they are trying to get back into the top 4, though Lens performance has dropped a lot compared to last season.

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November 17, 2023, 03:08:56 AM
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Lille performance is still quite good, while Lyon is very bad because their performance has really fall this season. Winning in the previous match against Rennes was also not an impressive victory with a score of 1-0, especially Rennes also unstable this season. So I agree with you, betting on Lyon in the match against Lille is not a good option, there is a possibility that the final result will be a draw or Lille win. As for Lyon victory, I personally also doubt it too.
Lille has the opportunity to secure full points in this match. They are superior with their strength in this match because their quality this season is more impressive than their opponents. Lyon, being the bottom team in the standings, will find it difficult to win when facing Lille. The only best chance in this match is of course betting on Lille winning. Lyon has only been able to achieve one win so far and they are still stuck in the bottom zone of the standing.

Ligue 1 this season is quite the opposite to last season because several big teams from last season are having difficulty maintaining their best form this season. PSG doesn't seem to have any difficulty this season in winning the Ligue 1 trophy again because they are back at the top of the standings. For Lens, they are trying to get back into the top 4, though Lens performance has dropped a lot compared to last season.

Lille should not have any problem, getting three points against Lyon. The difference in terms of performance and current form is absolutely visible to everyone. This is actually a good chance for Lille to decrease the point difference between them and Monaco. The current point difference is four. Lyon has been able to win the last match, but that was the only win for them so far in this season. On the other hand, Lille has not been very consistent, but they have not lost a single match in the last five and they have also been showing for better performance compared to their opponent.

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November 17, 2023, 03:26:17 AM
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Lille should not have any problem, getting three points against Lyon. The difference in terms of performance and current form is absolutely visible to everyone. This is actually a good chance for Lille to decrease the point difference between them and Monaco. The current point difference is four. Lyon has been able to win the last match, but that was the only win for them so far in this season. On the other hand, Lille has not been very consistent, but they have not lost a single match in the last five and they have also been showing for better performance compared to their opponent.

Lille is clearly the favorite in this match. It is not easy for Lyon to face Lille even though they are playing at home.
Lyon's type of game remains open even though they know that their defense is not that strong. Lyon can control the midfield and create many opportunities. but they don't have a reliable striker on the front line.
facing a stronger team, it will be very difficult for Lyon. but we'll see how they play.


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November 17, 2023, 03:36:13 AM
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After the international break there will be another interesting competition for us to watch when PSG succeeds in shifting Nice's position and in the upcoming match PSG will have to compete against Monaco while Monaco is currently having a very good performance because they know PSG's weaknesses and if PSG cannot get 3 points From Monaco, Nice will definitely take over first place in the League 1 points table.
Meanwhile, Nice will only compete against weak clubs like Toulouse, who have only got 2 wins since the start of the season, so it is very easy for Nice to get 3 points which can shift PSG's position.
However, it all depends on how the players at these two clubs are after the international break.


Another interesting and thrilling game to be seen this will be one of the last meetings for Kylian Mbappe to face his parent club Monaco who he won the League 1 first with.
With two goals and more scored at home by PSG this will sure be another wonderful game for total display also for Kylian to extend his goals. Monaco also have gained reduced points while playing from home. Monaco might have gone straight to the top three clubs even with some level of inconsistent. It will be hard game both sides are known for scoring many goals in games as this 

PSG versus Monaco is something that will probably be a lot closer than some people are thinking, to be honest. Because I think both of the teams have the capability of winning this match for sure. I also think that PSG might actually push really hard for the win in this match. And that is probably going to open some holes in the defence which Monaco might actually be able to exploit. I understand that in terms of quality, PSG is better than Monaco. But if Monaco can walk away with at least one point from this match, I don’t think it is going to be surprising.

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November 17, 2023, 07:22:37 AM
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Yes, Nice's draw in their last match allowed Paris Saint Germain to dislodge them from the top of the table. It's disapointing when Nice can only draw against a club that can't really be said to be strong either.
Monaco is a tough opponent for Paris Siant Germain, Monaco has the potential to win points from Paris Saint Germain headquarters in the upcoming match. They should be wary of the visitors even though they are on a very good run in Ligue 1, apart from their Champions League defeat to AC Milan.

Nice drew goalless with Montpellier. This is why the team has to lose the top spot. I know the Montpellier team is not strong. However, I am not at all surprised to see such a result in this match. Because I don't think the Nice team is very strong. I was actually a bit annoyed to see this team at the top of the table.

Nice team scored only 13 goals in 12 matches. The team held the top spot in the table only because of their strong defence. Their offensive performance is quite poor. Monaco, who are third in the points table, have scored 25 goals in 12 matches. I think only Monaco can stay in the title fight with PSG this season.
They're not not strong, but they don't have very good goal productivity so that's going to hold them back in the games they play, and one of them in this game forced them into a draw. Their defense is strong, but it's not matched by a strong attack.
If they continue like this and don't make any changes then don't be surprised when they will be further displaced in the standings. In the transfer market they must bring in players who can answer all their deadlocks in attack until this week. That is one opportunity for them to take advantage of.

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November 17, 2023, 07:22:42 AM
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The game between Paris Saint Germaine and Monaco will be a very interesting match to watch because of how impressive the two teams have been this season in the French Ligue 1.
Monaco who are currently in the third position trailing league leaders with just three points knows that a win in that game will take them to the same number of points with Paris Saint Germaine.
That being said, I expect the league leaders to win that game because if how strong they are and the fact that they'll be playing at home in front of their home fans.
AS Monaco's last three matches against PSG managed to win twice with quite convincing scores and that happened when PSG was still with several star players, but it was a home match for AS Monaco and because this is different where PSG will be the home team, of course, PSG will ensure 3 points in this match so that their position in the standings does not shift because if they lose or draw then the team that will benefit the most is Nice who will have the opportunity to return to first place in the standings because they are only one point different from PSG and will also face the Toulouse team which they are very likely to beat.
PSG is favored with odds @ 1.51 and AS Monaco gets odds @ 5.60, if PSG's attackers can appear consistent they should be able to score more than two goals and Mbappe, who successfully scored a hat trick in the previous match, will be expected to contribute again in this match.

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November 17, 2023, 08:27:17 AM
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Lille performance is still quite good, while Lyon is very bad because their performance has really fall this season. Winning in the previous match against Rennes was also not an impressive victory with a score of 1-0, especially Rennes also unstable this season. So I agree with you, betting on Lyon in the match against Lille is not a good option, there is a possibility that the final result will be a draw or Lille win. As for Lyon victory, I personally also doubt it too.
I think the best option for Olympic Lyon is to buy more players in January transfer window as their current form now is nothing to write home about considering the fact that they have won the France league title for a record of 7 good times. They need to improve in their performance as being in the relegation zone of the league is not good for the club.
Buying the new player will not be working. Lyon totally needs a new coach and players. Buying the new player while still keep the old coach will not give significant impact to the club. Lyon was wrongly fabio grosso as a new appointment while the club needs a good coach. Gross was bad and look at the current position of lyon. Im not sure if grosso will able to change the situation in the club by buying the new players. I think that just give him some times. I do believe lyon will come back stronger.
Lyon was able winning int he last match. That proves that if lyon needs more time. It's a disastrous season for lyon caused by the club is now placing at the bottom frag. it's really unimagined to see how lyon was going to the relegation zone.

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