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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 83 (45.1%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.8%)
Arsenal - 39 (21.2%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.8%)
Manchester United - 12 (6.5%)
Totenham - 7 (3.8%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
Total Voters: 184

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November 01, 2023, 11:32:15 PM
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Erik Ten Hag chances of losing his job as headcoach is very closer than expected, his presence means nothing at Old Trafford. An elite team like Manchester United is been humiliated currently against the Magpies. That's what you get when you underestimate an average competitive team. Eddie Howe is proud of the team he's building and he's not holding back, he wants the very best results for his team. Manchester united losing 3 nil at Old Trafford. A surprised defeat for the Red Devils, despite been home and having no impact on the game. Newcastle United came prepared and are still ambitious to make it 4-0 on the scoresheet.
A few days ago, I came across a tweet from Ten Hag indicating that Manchester United's poor play would soon come to an end. By then, everyone would have moved past their bad experiences of seeing them lose matches
My question to him is, When will that happen? Is it the day when Manchester United will never be competitive in any league they play in to win titles? Or arrive at the top positions of the league tables.

It is evident that Manchester United's performance has drastically declined, and its fans are not proud of the way their team is being outplayed by teams of all sizes(big or small) in both home and away games

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November 01, 2023, 11:38:16 PM
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Manchester United and Arsenal are out of the EFL Carabao Cup
More troubles for Manchester United because it looks like they will soon be out of all the competition they are in. They have crashed out of the Carabao cup, do not look like they will do well in this season's premier league and also look to be on their way out of the champions league too. I will like to see the extent that the management of the club Manchester United can give to the coach to fix this team that looked to be better this season after they had a good season in the last season. In Arsenals situation, Arteta's team selection was why they lost.

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November 01, 2023, 11:42:57 PM
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The game between Arsenal and WestHam have ended and it ended in favour of WestHam as they flogged Arsenal 3:0 at home.After watching this game,I begin to see Arsenal's weakness,and conclude that they cannot beat a strong side at the moment.They will be facing Newcastle over the weekend,and that is really going to be a tough match for them because Newcastle knows how to play Arsenal,they know that Arsenal are good and knows how to capitalise on their weak area which is the Zinchenko's wing.
Of a truth,the Arsenal's left back is not at his best at the moment,and wingers find it so easy to use that wing because his used to overlapping.

I'm surprised and it seems my prediction about this match between Arsenal and West Ham was not right at all because I was thinking considering the performance I saw from Arsenal in the previous games and the results this team got in the Premier League, they could easily beat West Ham is this match however they got more opportunities than West Ham in this match but still it didn't help them at all.


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November 01, 2023, 11:49:26 PM
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Manchester United and Arsenal are out of the EFL Carabao Cup
More troubles for Manchester United because it looks like they will soon be out of all the competition they are in. They have crashed out of the Carabao cup, do not look like they will do well in this season's premier league and also look to be on their way out of the champions league too. I will like to see the extent that the management of the club Manchester United can give to the coach to fix this team that looked to be better this season after they had a good season in the last season. In Arsenals situation, Arteta's team selection was why they lost.

The jargon "trust the process" is not suitable for manchester united. The club keeps try to trust its shitty players to defending its club which is very bad. Im very happy almiron was opening the score against manchester united.
Lewis hall is underrated player sold by chelsea. Manchester united lose three nil against newcastle.

There's no trust the process for manchester united since the process never happened. Manchester united keeps degrading from time to the time. There's no thing that can be trusted again from ten hag. He has been successfully in making manchester united played so badly against newcastle. Newcastle is far better compared with manchester united at this moment and im still curious why its fans can say trust the process.

So far zero process is happening with manchester united at this moment. People may lose their patience for ten hag soon. We may see another tagline tenhagout from MU fans. Ten hag is changing the club to be even worst this time.

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November 01, 2023, 11:55:10 PM
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          Manchester United is suffering in the hands of Newcastle United tonight. It is not a surprise to me because I anticipated it. Manchester United actually needs a very notable thing to happen to their team bofore they can start playing good football. Something like;
          • Sacking of the coach  
          • Buying of new players
          • Selling of old players
          • Selling of the club
          Without some of the above happening, it will be difficult for Manchester United to return to glory.[/list][/list][/list][/list]

          They tried to use new players and this is not something to help the team at all. I think using the new coach instead of Ten Hag can't also help the team and the best thing we can do is to trust Ten Hag until the end of this season because since he made many changes there is a chance for Manchester United to get in the better form in the future but if they wanted to change something I think Macnhyer United needs new owners more than anything to help the team to return to their good time they had before.

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          November 02, 2023, 12:51:17 AM
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          A few days ago, I came across a tweet from Ten Hag indicating that Manchester United's poor play would soon come to an end. By then, everyone would have moved past their bad experiences of seeing them lose matches
          My question to him is, When will that happen? Is it the day when Manchester United will never be competitive in any league they play in to win titles? Or arrive at the top positions of the league tables.
          Their poor streak will come to an end when Ten Hag is sacked by Manchester United. Hopefully changing a coach position will help them to gain instant positive, better results but again they got it short term in many coach sacks in the past.

          They were beaten by a B-squad of Newcastle United and they used some important players for a match debut so it's hard to accept this big defeat. They can not defend their title in the cup too early but I think it is good as they will have one less competition to play and can focus back on Premier League and Champions League.

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          It is evident that Manchester United's performance has drastically declined, and its fans are not proud of the way their team is being outplayed by teams of all sizes(big or small) in both home and away games
          Their players don't have good psychological status recently and with such negative mood, it's hard to have best performances. Many players in Manchester United don't have enough confidence about themselves at the moment and it affects not only individual performances but a whole team too.

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          November 02, 2023, 12:53:49 AM
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          Manchester United and Arsenal are out of the EFL Carabao Cup

          Even if I anticipated the lose of Manchester United, I have never reasoned that Westham United is gona eliminate Arsenal tonight. Reason being that Arsenal is so much in form and recently they are doing great. Could it be that Arteta played with the second eleven? If that is the reason why Westham defeated Arsenal woefully, it therefore means that Arsenal is still having problems of squad depth, which was what denied them the English premier League title last season. So, it is also expected that they will have similar problem, this season if there is no depth of quality players in the team.
          Could it also be that Arsenal deliberately crash out of EFL cup to be more focused in more important matches.
          I think Arsenal had more of their focus on the UCL and premier league so they did gave less preference to the carabao cup games, that could be the reason they did had such a performance, I think so because normally Arsenal would win westham in their current form.

          Manchester united have to seat up after this incident else they may end this season without a trophy again, they have a  weak performance at the premier league and in the UCL they are only hoping they will their remaining game els they may crash out of the UCL aswell and they will be left with only the premier league to contend in, a place where they seem not to have a chance aswell in their current form. I think Manchester united needs to do something especially about their defense by this January, they should get good replacements.

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          November 02, 2023, 01:16:48 AM
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          But however considering based on performance there is every chance that arsenal will win the match against Newcastle United, perhaps all thanks to Arteta who was thought very well by Pep Quardiola when he was his assistant on Manchester City, so he has been the ingredient behind the success of arsenal today although his coaching patterns reminds me of Arsene Wenger during his time on coaching arsenal even though he has his own lapsis but he was one of the best arsenal coach do to his excellent pattern of coaching he won 17 trophies for arsenal.

          So i believe that with Arteta excellent coaching skills he will make arsenal even more better in performance than before, so if arsenal will use the force they did on Manchester City match they will surely win Newcastle United.
          Arsenal have had a good season in the premier league and they are the unbeaten team so far along with Tottenham. Arteta really understands the tight competition in the Premier League so he really maximizes all the strengths his players have. Last season's failure to win the Premier League title was an important lesson for him so that this season he doesn't make the same mistake. Arsenal only needs to play consistently to catch up on points from Tottenham and winning against Newcastle United is important for them to be in a position that is not far from Tottenham on points.

          Newcastle United's self-confidence is increasingly high after successfully beating Manchester United with a quite striking score in the Carabao Cup, this shows that Arsenal must be careful if they don't want to experience defeat like what Manchester United experienced. Arteta should be wary of the sharpness of Newcastle United's attack line because playing at home will definitely increase the motivation of Eddie Howe's men to beat Arsenal.

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          November 02, 2023, 03:04:16 AM
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          The game between Arsenal and WestHam have ended and it ended in favour of WestHam as they flogged Arsenal 3:0 at home.After watching this game,I begin to see Arsenal's weakness,and conclude that they cannot beat a strong side at the moment.They will be facing Newcastle over the weekend,and that is really going to be a tough match for them because Newcastle knows how to play Arsenal,they know that Arsenal are good and knows how to capitalise on their weak area which is the Zinchenko's wing.
          Of a truth,the Arsenal's left back is not at his best at the moment,and wingers find it so easy to use that wing because his used to overlapping.

          I'm surprised and it seems my prediction about this match between Arsenal and West Ham was not right at all because I was thinking considering the performance I saw from Arsenal in the previous games and the results this team got in the Premier League, they could easily beat West Ham is this match however they got more opportunities than West Ham in this match but still it didn't help them at all.



          FYI, westham has a specialization in the low blocks strategy. This guy is always trying to fully defensive against arsenal but it was also making a surprise attack. I think that people aware about how 2 goals from the westham was coming from counter attack.
          This is the problem for a club that is always focusing into the domination of ball possession. This club didn't have fast transformation into the defensive strategy. This is the same like what's happening with arsenal against chelsea in the first half.
          It seems like that if moyes has been learning from the match against chelsea. Arsenal is always facing so difficult in countering the counter attacking that used long ball. The personal skill by westham matters a lot here.
          Glad westham was able winning the game against arsenal.

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          November 02, 2023, 03:41:27 AM
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          I guess this game in the League Cup is of minor importance to both Manchester United and Newcastle as they are probably not aiming at qualifying for the Europa League due to winning the League Cup. I have often seen that in this cup the teams allow players to get some practice when they usually don't play that frequently. Hence, I don't really think that this game is particularly informative as to how the teams will be doing in the coming weeks in the important competitions. A lot of games are to come and tonight there will probably be some players who get a break.
          Both teams have not confirmed the line up, so we don't know their seriousness in this tournament. I agreed that the Manchester United and Newcastle United match in Carabao Cup was not very important for them because there were other competitions with a far more important goal for them.
          Manchester United and Newcastle still have to focus on the UEFA Champions League. If they are fully focused on the Carabao Cup, afraid of getting obstacles when struggling there.

          Erik ten Hag and Eddie Howe might play a second layer player who often sits on a backup bench. The main players of each of the two teams will be rested or may be played as a substitute in 45 minutes of the second half later.

          This is what I expected and let me also not here that even if the line-up was quite standard, it still doesn't mean that the competition is taken as seriously as the FA Cup or the Premier League. I think there is some normality to a player being more careful in competitions that are not that important. I know many voices will say that they have to give their 100% every single game no matter what the name of the tournament is, but I think it is human to also make some decisions about the effort and intensity a player gives in a tournament. The risk of injury is always there.

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          November 02, 2023, 03:45:15 AM
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          More troubles for Manchester United because it looks like they will soon be out of all the competition they are in. They have crashed out of the Carabao cup, do not look like they will do well in this season's premier league and also look to be on their way out of the champions league too. I will like to see the extent that the management of the club Manchester United can give to the coach to fix this team that looked to be better this season after they had a good season in the last season.
          One competition has finished for Manchester United, due to not being able to match the strength of Newcastle, who appeared dominant throughout the match, Manchester United had to pick up their suitcases more quickly in the EFL Cup. Manchester United, who have not found their best form this season, will also be in danger of leaving the UCL. They have three more matches left in the UCL, two of which are tough matches for Manchester United because they have the potential to lose points when they meet Galatasaray and Bayern Munich.
          In the Premier League, the position is also not very good, Manchester United is still stuck in 8th position, they are 8 points behind Liverpool who are in fourth position. Due to his inconsistent performance this season, Manchester United is threatened with going further in the UCL and is likely to fail to enter the top four positions in the Premier League.

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          November 02, 2023, 03:54:05 AM
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                  Manchester United is suffering in the hands of Newcastle United tonight. It is not a surprise to me because I anticipated it. Manchester United actually needs a very notable thing to happen to their team bofore they can start playing good football. Something like;
                  • Sacking of the coach  
                  • Buying of new players
                  • Selling of old players
                  • Selling of the club
                  Without some of the above happening, it will be difficult for Manchester United to return to glory.[/list][/list][/list][/list]

                  They tried to use new players and this is not something to help the team at all. I think using the new coach instead of Ten Hag can't also help the team and the best thing we can do is to trust Ten Hag until the end of this season because since he made many changes there is a chance for Manchester United to get in the better form in the future but if they wanted to change something I think Macnhyer United needs new owners more than anything to help the team to return to their good time they had before.


                  Using a new coach will give differences for the gameplay of manchester united. I think that MU needs also to learn about how brighton, aston villa and westham have been performing very well at this moment. Those clubs were sacking the old coaches to be replaced with the new coaches and it's all work. Sometime it's a gambling but this is far better rather than wasting so much money to by non sense players who can do nothing like mason mount. Signing a new coach will only consume small amounts of money compared when the club paid a lot to bring a new player.
                  I think that a good coach can change the club to be even better. We are also seeing some clubs are performing even better after they were sacking their old coaches.

                  MU needs to take a fast step as soon as possible before it's too late. Ten hag has been making the performance from the club was underperform. It's even worthy compared with gambling by buying the new players that will change nothing.
                  The management shall consider this option as well. Ten hag's overall performance with united was bad.

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                  Erik Ten Hag chances of losing his job as headcoach is very closer than expected, his presence means nothing at Old Trafford. An elite team like Manchester United is been humiliated currently against the Magpies. That's what you get when you underestimate an average competitive team. Eddie Howe is proud of the team he's building and he's not holding back, he wants the very best results for his team. Manchester united losing 3 nil at Old Trafford. A surprised defeat for the Red Devils, despite been home and having no impact on the game. Newcastle United came prepared and are still ambitious to make it 4-0 on the scoresheet.

                  I don't know, this cannot be explained when Manchester United suffered another defeat this is their 2nd defeat at home in a row in different competitions, we don't know whether management will consider it for some reason or will immediately fire it and what is clear is that this embarrassing defeat is certainly a concern for management. In fact, we understand the condition of Manchester United which is experiencing many player injuries but the management and fans certainly don't want to hear any excuses they just want Manchester United to always win in any competition, let's wait and see what their decision is this week whether to continue or fire him.

                  I think, sack letter will soon be issue to Ten Hag if this poor performance continue because the results Manchester united are achieving in this season is not making the management and fans to breath well as before, which the management need to take a good decision to tackle some things that will make the players to improve. I know many people are not well comfortable with that defeat Arsenal defeated Manchester united in few minutes to the end of the match, which other teams will never allow such thing to happen than to draw the match 1-1 to share the points but Arsenal achieved three points to caused heavy celebration in the stadium. I believe, there are some old players  Manchester united management need to release to other teams so that they can be able to bring in new talented players that will help them to erase some errors to improve the team before the end of the tournament.

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                  I'm surprised and it seems my prediction about this match between Arsenal and West Ham was not right at all because I was thinking considering the performance I saw from Arsenal in the previous games and the results this team got in the Premier League, they could easily beat West Ham is this match however they got more opportunities than West Ham in this match but still it didn't help them at all.
                  Aston Villa and West Ham sometime can give a surprise.

                  Arsenal wasn't perform bad, but they're just unlucky. However this is not a problem because it's only a big mac trophy, they have another focus to win Champions and Premier League.

                  The winner of this big mac trophy are either West Ham, Liverpool or Newcastle, there's no other club can compete them.
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                  November 02, 2023, 04:16:54 AM
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                  Manchester United and Arsenal are out of the EFL Carabao Cup

                  Even if I anticipated the lose of Manchester United, I have never reasoned that Westham United is gona eliminate Arsenal tonight. Reason being that Arsenal is so much in form and recently they are doing great. Could it be that Arteta played with the second eleven? If that is the reason why Westham defeated Arsenal woefully, it therefore means that Arsenal is still having problems of squad depth, which was what denied them the English premier League title last season. So, it is also expected that they will have similar problem, this season if there is no depth of quality players in the team.
                  Could it also be that Arsenal deliberately crash out of EFL cup to be more focused in more important matches.
                  I think Arsenal had more of their focus on the UCL and premier league so they did gave less preference to the carabao cup games, that could be the reason they did had such a performance, I think so because normally Arsenal would win westham in their current form.

                  Manchester united have to seat up after this incident else they may end this season without a trophy again, they have a  weak performance at the premier league and in the UCL they are only hoping they will their remaining game els they may crash out of the UCL aswell and they will be left with only the premier league to contend in, a place where they seem not to have a chance aswell in their current form. I think Manchester united needs to do something especially about their defense by this January, they should get good replacements.
                  yep, it makes sense and for me it is natural that Arsenal will prioritize the EPL and UCL competitions because the title in the UCL is very important, one of the prestigious titles that they have to fight for and on the one hand, pursuing a position in the EPL to continue to get the best place to get a ticket in the UCL next season and I will not be surprised and question Arsenal performance in the match against Westham because Arteta will save his players energy to compete in other competitions and even Man City has experienced defeat in the Carabao match when focusing on the UCL.

                  regarding Man United poor performance, there will be no hope of winning the title in the EPL or UCL, but even so, I just want to see MU finish in the best ranking at the end of this season like last season and I understand MU declining performance which is happening because they really dont have any formation the strong and right players you said in january Ten Hag chance of getting the right players was really right.

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                  November 02, 2023, 04:19:16 AM
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                  Manchester United and Arsenal are out of the EFL Carabao Cup

                  Even if I anticipated the lose of Manchester United, I have never reasoned that Westham United is gona eliminate Arsenal tonight. Reason being that Arsenal is so much in form and recently they are doing great. Could it be that Arteta played with the second eleven? If that is the reason why Westham defeated Arsenal woefully, it therefore means that Arsenal is still having problems of squad depth, which was what denied them the English premier League title last season. So, it is also expected that they will have similar problem, this season if there is no depth of quality players in the team.
                  Could it also be that Arsenal deliberately crash out of EFL cup to be more focused in more important matches.
                  Arsenal achievement at Carabao Cup is not too impressive and if i am not mistaken the last time Arsenal won the Carabao Cup was in 1993 and since that they never won the trophy until now and on 2018 Arsenal have been reach to the final match but unfortunately they were lose from Manchester City however yesterday Arsenal was playing with some of their reserved players so it's clearly Arsenal didn't considers Carabao Cup as their main priority because they will more likely to focusing their target to other competitions just like Premier League or Champion league especially at Champion league that Arteta has high target to this competition because he want to bringing Arsenal to qualified from group stage

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                  November 02, 2023, 04:21:46 AM
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                  Erik Ten Hag chances of losing his job as headcoach is very closer than expected, his presence means nothing at Old Trafford. An elite team like Manchester United is been humiliated currently against the Magpies. That's what you get when you underestimate an average competitive team. Eddie Howe is proud of the team he's building and he's not holding back, he wants the very best results for his team. Manchester united losing 3 nil at Old Trafford. A surprised defeat for the Red Devils, despite been home and having no impact on the game. Newcastle United came prepared and are still ambitious to make it 4-0 on the scoresheet.

                  I don't know, this cannot be explained when Manchester United suffered another defeat this is their 2nd defeat at home in a row in different competitions, we don't know whether management will consider it for some reason or will immediately fire it and what is clear is that this embarrassing defeat is certainly a concern for management. In fact, we understand the condition of Manchester United which is experiencing many player injuries but the management and fans certainly don't want to hear any excuses they just want Manchester United to always win in any competition, let's wait and see what their decision is this week whether to continue or fire him.
                  I'm as confused as you are about Manchester United's situation. Seeing the team lose so often, especially at Old Trafford, is really unsettling. I can't help but wonder if management will review their approach or replace the current leader right away. The fact that Newcastle was defeated only serves to highlight how urgent the situation is. Imo, the management ought to take the initiative to resolve this. I think it's important to examine how the loss occurred as well as the outcome itself. Here, the analogy to Chelsea's terrible season is undoubtedly appropriate. While injuries have undoubtedly played a role, I can't help but believe that a team the caliber of Manchester United ought to have adequate depth to handle things. It is understandable that the management and supporters are eager for a victory. I'll be keeping a careful eye on the rumors swirling about Ten Hag this week.

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                  November 02, 2023, 04:27:12 AM
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                  Erik Ten Hag chances of losing his job as headcoach is very closer than expected, his presence means nothing at Old Trafford. An elite team like Manchester United is been humiliated currently against the Magpies. That's what you get when you underestimate an average competitive team. Eddie Howe is proud of the team he's building and he's not holding back, he wants the very best results for his team. Manchester united losing 3 nil at Old Trafford. A surprised defeat for the Red Devils, despite been home and having no impact on the game. Newcastle United came prepared and are still ambitious to make it 4-0 on the scoresheet.

                  I don't know, this cannot be explained when Manchester United suffered another defeat this is their 2nd defeat at home in a row in different competitions, we don't know whether management will consider it for some reason or will immediately fire it and what is clear is that this embarrassing defeat is certainly a concern for management. In fact, we understand the condition of Manchester United which is experiencing many player injuries but the management and fans certainly don't want to hear any excuses they just want Manchester United to always win in any competition, let's wait and see what their decision is this week whether to continue or fire him.
                  No doubt that the situation with Manchester United right now has fallen apart, and the problem is certainly with the head coach Erik Ten Hag, even though Man Utd is in a terrible situation in terms of form and performance, realistically Newcastle United isn't a team to think that, or we would have hoped that Man Utd would have won seeing their present condition and despite the fact they hosted Newcastle in this encounter, It would have also been difficult on the normal ground for United side, but the humiliation wouldn't have been this much if at all Newcastle United won.



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                  November 02, 2023, 04:29:25 AM
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                  More troubles for Manchester United because it looks like they will soon be out of all the competition they are in. They have crashed out of the Carabao cup, do not look like they will do well in this season's premier league and also look to be on their way out of the champions league too. I will like to see the extent that the management of the club Manchester United can give to the coach to fix this team that looked to be better this season after they had a good season in the last season.
                  One competition has finished for Manchester United, due to not being able to match the strength of Newcastle, who appeared dominant throughout the match, Manchester United had to pick up their suitcases more quickly in the EFL Cup. Manchester United, who have not found their best form this season, will also be in danger of leaving the UCL. They have three more matches left in the UCL, two of which are tough matches for Manchester United because they have the potential to lose points when they meet Galatasaray and Bayern Munich.
                  In the Premier League, the position is also not very good, Manchester United is still stuck in 8th position, they are 8 points behind Liverpool who are in fourth position. Due to his inconsistent performance this season, Manchester United is threatened with going further in the UCL and is likely to fail to enter the top four positions in the Premier League.

                  Manchester United has indeed experienced a significant decline this season, Manchester United has not been completely consistent and Erik Ten Hag has not been able to improve the club as a whole, last season Erik Ten Hag managed to bring Manchester United to a top 3 finish but it looks like this season will be a little difficult to achieve. Manchester United if they continue like this, it is too early to predict whether Manchester United will be able to occupy the top 3 positions because looking at Liverpool and Newcastle's chances, both of them are much better than Manchester United. I think Manchester United must be willing if this season they are not in the top 3 positions. in the English league.

                  Manchester is in a pretty tough group and Manchester United has to face 2 tough competitors in the UCL to qualify from the group stage even though it is difficult to compete in the UCL but at least we hope Manchester United can perform better in the English league or at least finish in the top 5 this season .

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                  November 02, 2023, 04:48:46 AM
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                  Manchester United and Arsenal are out of the EFL Carabao Cup

                  Even if I anticipated the lose of Manchester United, I have never reasoned that Westham United is gona eliminate Arsenal tonight. Reason being that Arsenal is so much in form and recently they are doing great. Could it be that Arteta played with the second eleven? If that is the reason why Westham defeated Arsenal woefully, it therefore means that Arsenal is still having problems of squad depth, which was what denied them the English premier League title last season. So, it is also expected that they will have similar problem, this season if there is no depth of quality players in the team.
                  Could it also be that Arsenal deliberately crash out of EFL cup to be more focused in more important matches.
                  I think Arsenal had more of their focus on the UCL and premier league so they did gave less preference to the carabao cup games, that could be the reason they did had such a performance, I think so because normally Arsenal would win westham in their current form.

                  Manchester united have to seat up after this incident else they may end this season without a trophy again, they have a  weak performance at the premier league and in the UCL they are only hoping they will their remaining game els they may crash out of the UCL aswell and they will be left with only the premier league to contend in, a place where they seem not to have a chance aswell in their current form. I think Manchester united needs to do something especially about their defense by this January, they should get good replacements.
                  yep, it makes sense and for me it is natural that Arsenal will prioritize the EPL and UCL competitions because the title in the UCL is very important, one of the prestigious titles that they have to fight for and on the one hand, pursuing a position in the EPL to continue to get the best place to get a ticket in the UCL next season and I will not be surprised and question Arsenal performance in the match against Westham because Arteta will save his players energy to compete in other competitions and even Man City has experienced defeat in the Carabao match when focusing on the UCL.

                  regarding Man United poor performance, there will be no hope of winning the title in the EPL or UCL, but even so, I just want to see MU finish in the best ranking at the end of this season like last season and I understand MU declining performance which is happening because they really dont have any formation the strong and right players you said in january Ten Hag chance of getting the right players was really right.

                  Man United who are suppose to defend the competition after winning last season has been knocked out of this competition it shows how poorer they have been since the start of the season.
                  Ten Hag's team not under his control two games with six goals if same happens again when theybface Fulham there will be problems but the same cycle of sacking the management continues.
                  Can Man United qualify for the Champions league afterwards?

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