Premier League Prediction Thread 2024/2025

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Manchester United and Arsenal are out of the EFL Carabao Cup

Even if I anticipated the lose of Manchester United, I have never reasoned that Westham United is gona eliminate Arsenal tonight. Reason being that Arsenal is so much in form and recently they are doing great. Could it be that Arteta played with the second eleven? If that is the reason why Westham defeated Arsenal woefully, it therefore means that Arsenal is still having problems of squad depth, which was what denied them the English premier League title last season. So, it is also expected that they will have similar problem, this season if there is no depth of quality players in the team.
Could it also be that Arsenal deliberately crash out of EFL cup to be more focused in more important matches.

Arsenal achievement at Carabao Cup is not too impressive and if i am not mistaken the last time Arsenal won the Carabao Cup was in 1993 and since that they never won the trophy until now and on 2018 Arsenal have been reach to the final match but unfortunately they were lose from Manchester City however yesterday Arsenal was playing with some of their reserved players so it's clearly Arsenal didn't considers Carabao Cup as their main priority because they will more likely to focusing their target to other competitions just like Premier League or Champion league especially at Champion league that Arteta has high target to this competition because he want to bringing Arsenal to qualified from group stage

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Erik Ten Hag chances of losing his job as headcoach is very closer than expected, his presence means nothing at Old Trafford. An elite team like Manchester United is been humiliated currently against the Magpies. That's what you get when you underestimate an average competitive team. Eddie Howe is proud of the team he's building and he's not holding back, he wants the very best results for his team. Manchester united losing 3 nil at Old Trafford. A surprised defeat for the Red Devils, despite been home and having no impact on the game. Newcastle United came prepared and are still ambitious to make it 4-0 on the scoresheet.

I don't know, this cannot be explained when Manchester United suffered another defeat this is their 2nd defeat at home in a row in different competitions, we don't know whether management will consider it for some reason or will immediately fire it and what is clear is that this embarrassing defeat is certainly a concern for management. In fact, we understand the condition of Manchester United which is experiencing many player injuries but the management and fans certainly don't want to hear any excuses they just want Manchester United to always win in any competition, let's wait and see what their decision is this week whether to continue or fire him.

I'm as confused as you are about Manchester United's situation. Seeing the team lose so often, especially at Old Trafford, is really unsettling. I can't help but wonder if management will review their approach or replace the current leader right away. The fact that Newcastle was defeated only serves to highlight how urgent the situation is. Imo, the management ought to take the initiative to resolve this. I think it's important to examine how the loss occurred as well as the outcome itself. Here, the analogy to Chelsea's terrible season is undoubtedly appropriate. While injuries have undoubtedly played a role, I can't help but believe that a team the caliber of Manchester United ought to have adequate depth to handle things. It is understandable that the management and supporters are eager for a victory. I'll be keeping a careful eye on the rumors swirling about Ten Hag this week.

[Franctoshi]

Erik Ten Hag chances of losing his job as headcoach is very closer than expected, his presence means nothing at Old Trafford. An elite team like Manchester United is been humiliated currently against the Magpies. That's what you get when you underestimate an average competitive team. Eddie Howe is proud of the team he's building and he's not holding back, he wants the very best results for his team. Manchester united losing 3 nil at Old Trafford. A surprised defeat for the Red Devils, despite been home and having no impact on the game. Newcastle United came prepared and are still ambitious to make it 4-0 on the scoresheet.

I don't know, this cannot be explained when Manchester United suffered another defeat this is their 2nd defeat at home in a row in different competitions, we don't know whether management will consider it for some reason or will immediately fire it and what is clear is that this embarrassing defeat is certainly a concern for management. In fact, we understand the condition of Manchester United which is experiencing many player injuries but the management and fans certainly don't want to hear any excuses they just want Manchester United to always win in any competition, let's wait and see what their decision is this week whether to continue or fire him.

No doubt that the situation with Manchester United right now has fallen apart, and the problem is certainly with the head coach Erik Ten Hag, even though Man Utd is in a terrible situation in terms of form and performance, realistically Newcastle United isn't a team to think that, or we would have hoped that Man Utd would have won seeing their present condition and despite the fact they hosted Newcastle in this encounter, It would have also been difficult on the normal ground for United side, but the humiliation wouldn't have been this much if at all Newcastle United won.

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More troubles for Manchester United because it looks like they will soon be out of all the competition they are in. They have crashed out of the Carabao cup, do not look like they will do well in this season's premier league and also look to be on their way out of the champions league too. I will like to see the extent that the management of the club Manchester United can give to the coach to fix this team that looked to be better this season after they had a good season in the last season.

One competition has finished for Manchester United, due to not being able to match the strength of Newcastle, who appeared dominant throughout the match, Manchester United had to pick up their suitcases more quickly in the EFL Cup. Manchester United, who have not found their best form this season, will also be in danger of leaving the UCL. They have three more matches left in the UCL, two of which are tough matches for Manchester United because they have the potential to lose points when they meet Galatasaray and Bayern Munich.
In the Premier League, the position is also not very good, Manchester United is still stuck in 8th position, they are 8 points behind Liverpool who are in fourth position. Due to his inconsistent performance this season, Manchester United is threatened with going further in the UCL and is likely to fail to enter the top four positions in the Premier League.

Manchester United has indeed experienced a significant decline this season, Manchester United has not been completely consistent and Erik Ten Hag has not been able to improve the club as a whole, last season Erik Ten Hag managed to bring Manchester United to a top 3 finish but it looks like this season will be a little difficult to achieve. Manchester United if they continue like this, it is too early to predict whether Manchester United will be able to occupy the top 3 positions because looking at Liverpool and Newcastle's chances, both of them are much better than Manchester United. I think Manchester United must be willing if this season they are not in the top 3 positions. in the English league.

Manchester is in a pretty tough group and Manchester United has to face 2 tough competitors in the UCL to qualify from the group stage even though it is difficult to compete in the UCL but at least we hope Manchester United can perform better in the English league or at least finish in the top 5 this season .

[harapan]

Manchester United and Arsenal are out of the EFL Carabao Cup

Even if I anticipated the lose of Manchester United, I have never reasoned that Westham United is gona eliminate Arsenal tonight. Reason being that Arsenal is so much in form and recently they are doing great. Could it be that Arteta played with the second eleven? If that is the reason why Westham defeated Arsenal woefully, it therefore means that Arsenal is still having problems of squad depth, which was what denied them the English premier League title last season. So, it is also expected that they will have similar problem, this season if there is no depth of quality players in the team.
Could it also be that Arsenal deliberately crash out of EFL cup to be more focused in more important matches.

I think Arsenal had more of their focus on the UCL and premier league so they did gave less preference to the carabao cup games, that could be the reason they did had such a performance, I think so because normally Arsenal would win westham in their current form.

Manchester united have to seat up after this incident else they may end this season without a trophy again, they have a  weak performance at the premier league and in the UCL they are only hoping they will their remaining game els they may crash out of the UCL aswell and they will be left with only the premier league to contend in, a place where they seem not to have a chance aswell in their current form. I think Manchester united needs to do something especially about their defense by this January, they should get good replacements.

yep, it makes sense and for me it is natural that Arsenal will prioritize the EPL and UCL competitions because the title in the UCL is very important, one of the prestigious titles that they have to fight for and on the one hand, pursuing a position in the EPL to continue to get the best place to get a ticket in the UCL next season and I will not be surprised and question Arsenal performance in the match against Westham because Arteta will save his players energy to compete in other competitions and even Man City has experienced defeat in the Carabao match when focusing on the UCL.

regarding Man United poor performance, there will be no hope of winning the title in the EPL or UCL, but even so, I just want to see MU finish in the best ranking at the end of this season like last season and I understand MU declining performance which is happening because they really dont have any formation the strong and right players you said in january Ten Hag chance of getting the right players was really right.

Man United who are suppose to defend the competition after winning last season has been knocked out of this competition it shows how poorer they have been since the start of the season.
Ten Hag's team not under his control two games with six goals if same happens again when theybface Fulham there will be problems but the same cycle of sacking the management continues.
Can Man United qualify for the Champions league afterwards?

[SeriouslyGiveaway]

Arsenal wasn't perform bad, but they're just unlucky. However this is not a problem because it's only a big mac trophy, they have another focus to win Champions and Premier League.

The winner of this big mac trophy are either West Ham, Liverpool or Newcastle, there's no other club can compete them.

- Arsenal had a decent squad, even with Declan Rice playing in round 2. However, that wasn't sufficient to secure a victory against West Ham, who seemed highly motivated for this cup.
- I'd recommend considering Chelsea as one of the championship contenders alongside West Ham, Liverpool, and Newcastle.

regarding Man United poor performance, there will be no hope of winning the title in the EPL or UCL, but even so, I just want to see MU finish in the best ranking at the end of this season like last season and I understand MU declining performance which is happening because they really dont have any formation the strong and right players you said in january Ten Hag chance of getting the right players was really right.

Given Manchester United's current situation, avoiding a loss can be seen as a success. The more they play, the more I feel they're stuck. The players seem quite unhappy under Ten Hag, and they lack motivation for competition at the moment.

[Amphenomenon]

I'm surprised and it seems my prediction about this match between Arsenal and West Ham was not right at all because I was thinking considering the performance I saw from Arsenal in the previous games and the results this team got in the Premier League, they could easily beat West Ham is this match however they got more opportunities than West Ham in this match but still it didn't help them at all.

Arsenal wasn't perform bad, but they're just unlucky. However this is not a problem because it's only a big mac trophy, they have another focus to win Champions and Premier League.

In the long run Arsenal has not been consistent we saw it last season and probably its already happening this season by next year it will be seen in their Epl matches while I don't see them as contenders for the Champions league

regarding Man United poor performance, there will be no hope of winning the title in the EPL or UCL, but even so, I just want to see MU finish in the best ranking at the end of this season like last season and I understand MU declining performance which is happening because they really dont have any formation the strong and right players you said in january Ten Hag chance of getting the right players was really right.

I will accept Man u not having the right formation but in terms of players they have a pretty strong team with alot of them having experience. Is more like they are either tired of Ten Hag or the way the club is being run.

[Smack That Ace]

Manchester United and Arsenal are out of the EFL Carabao Cup
Even if I anticipated the lose of Manchester United, I have never reasoned that Westham United is gona eliminate Arsenal tonight. Reason being that Arsenal is so much in form and recently they are doing great. Could it be that Arteta played with the second eleven? If that is the reason why Westham defeated Arsenal woefully, it therefore means that Arsenal is still having problems of squad depth, which was what denied them the English premier League title last season. So, it is also expected that they will have similar problem, this season if there is no depth of quality players in the team.
Could it also be that Arsenal deliberately crash out of EFL cup to be more focused in more important matches.

I think Arsenal had more of their focus on the UCL and premier league so they did gave less preference to the carabao cup games, that could be the reason they did had such a performance, I think so because normally Arsenal would win westham in their current form.
Manchester united have to seat up after this incident else they may end this season without a trophy again, they have a  weak performance at the premier league and in the UCL they are only hoping they will their remaining game els they may crash out of the UCL aswell and they will be left with only the premier league to contend in, a place where they seem not to have a chance aswell in their current form. I think Manchester united needs to do something especially about their defense by this January, they should get good replacements.

yep, it makes sense and for me it is natural that Arsenal will prioritize the EPL and UCL competitions because the title in the UCL is very important, one of the prestigious titles that they have to fight for and on the one hand, pursuing a position in the EPL to continue to get the best place to get a ticket in the UCL next season and I will not be surprised and question Arsenal performance in the match against Westham because Arteta will save his players energy to compete in other competitions and even Man City has experienced defeat in the Carabao match when focusing on the UCL.
regarding Man United poor performance, there will be no hope of winning the title in the EPL or UCL, but even so, I just want to see MU finish in the best ranking at the end of this season like last season and I understand MU declining performance which is happening because they really dont have any formation the strong and right players you said in january Ten Hag chance of getting the right players was really right.

Man United who are suppose to defend the competition after winning last season has been knocked out of this competition it shows how poorer they have been since the start of the season.
Ten Hag's team not under his control two games with six goals if same happens again when theybface Fulham there will be problems but the same cycle of sacking the management continues.
Can Man United qualify for the Champions league afterwards?

Manchester United's performance towards the end of last season was quite good. That's why we all expected to see a better performance from Manchester United this season. But the performance of this team has been bad since the beginning of the season. At the beginning of the season, several players of Manchester United could not be with the squad due to injuries. As a result Manchester United's performance was erratic. But even after the players returned to the squad, the performance of Manchester United did not improve much. Manchester United's performance is still weak and erratic. And if this continues until the end of the season, United management may decide to sack the Ten Hag. But United management will probably rely on tenHag this season. Maybe we will see United's new coach next season.

[Richbased]

Man United who are suppose to defend the competition after winning last season has been knocked out of this competition it shows how poorer they have been since the start of the season.
Ten Hag's team not under his control two games with six goals if same happens again when theybface Fulham there will be problems but the same cycle of sacking the management continues.
Can Man United qualify for the Champions league afterwards?

I saw this lose coming for Manchester united, united players never played like they wanted to win this match against Newcastle, you can spot the energy with which Newcastle players played with, like they played with all their energy in other to achieve this great result from Manchester united, Manchester united at this point can't make any difference at all maybe till January, what they need do now is to give up the Champions league and try Europa maybe they might change their gameplay there but at this moment, Manchester united is at their worst.

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I'm as confused as you are about Manchester United's situation. Seeing the team lose so often, especially at Old Trafford, is really unsettling. I can't help but wonder if management will review their approach or replace the current leader right away. The fact that Newcastle was defeated only serves to highlight how urgent the situation is. Imo, the management ought to take the initiative to resolve this. I think it's important to examine how the loss occurred as well as the outcome itself. Here, the analogy to Chelsea's terrible season is undoubtedly appropriate. While injuries have undoubtedly played a role, I can't help but believe that a team the caliber of Manchester United ought to have adequate depth to handle things. It is understandable that the management and supporters are eager for a victory. I'll be keeping a careful eye on the rumors swirling about Ten Hag this week.

It seems that quite a lot of people are confused about Manchester United, and I found many people complaining about why Manchester United's performance is as bad as it is. I could barely say anything else and it was as if the problem had never been resolved. However, such is the quality of Manchester United this season under Erik Ten Hag, so the first party to blame is the coach. It was a risk he accepted.

Any club that plays at Old Trafford will no longer be afraid of facing Manchester United, because the conditions are really serious. The Glazer family seems to prefer this club to lose rather than play well. So it's not surprising why he refused to sell the club because he wanted to enjoy the process of losing after losing. Coming to the conclusion that the solution for Manchester United to return to its game is to sell the club to strong hands from an economic perspective and change the coach.

[bayu7adi]

Is anyone puzzled by Arsenal? Did they underestimate Carabao, leading to their defeat against the underdog team, West Ham?

Rather than focusing on Man United, which is really tough to change, do you think Arsenal has a weak backup squad? In the game against West Ham, it seemed like Arteta couldn't rely on his second-string squad to shine. That means if Arsenal's main squad faces an injury crisis, it could spell bad news for the team.

Plus, there are still 28 games left in the league, and even with a good start, it doesn't guarantee a strong finish. I see Arteta should look for another striker and not rely on Nketiah. I'm worried that if Prince Eddie Nketiah gets injured, will Arsenal be handicapped? Well, even though football is played by 11 people, as of now, I think Eddie is the most capable striker.

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Is anyone puzzled by Arsenal? Did they underestimate Carabao, leading to their defeat against the underdog team, West Ham?

Rather than focusing on Man United, which is really tough to change, do you think Arsenal has a weak backup squad? In the game against West Ham, it seemed like Arteta couldn't rely on his second-string squad to shine. That means if Arsenal's main squad faces an injury crisis, it could spell bad news for the team.

Plus, there are still 28 games left in the league, and even with a good start, it doesn't guarantee a strong finish. I see Arteta should look for another striker and not rely on Nketiah. I'm worried that if Prince Eddie Nketiah gets injured, will Arsenal be handicapped? Well, even though football is played by 11 people, as of now, I think Eddie is the most capable striker.

Manchester United's defeat against Newcastle was very natural, even though they were humiliated at home with a score of 3 goals, but I don't think anyone was surprised by this result because Manchester United's performance was quite bad and they deserved to lose.

However, what happened with Arsenal was quite surprising, in several previous matches Arteta had also made rotations but the team's performance remained good, but in this match that was not the case.
Maybe West Ham played better so Arsenal's back-up players couldn't improve.

[TastyChillySauce00]

I'm surprised and it seems my prediction about this match between Arsenal and West Ham was not right at all because I was thinking considering the performance I saw from Arsenal in the previous games and the results this team got in the Premier League, they could easily beat West Ham is this match however they got more opportunities than West Ham in this match but still it didn't help them at all.

Aston Villa and West Ham sometime can give a surprise.

These clubs were performing perfectly this season. I think that aston villa is much more aggressive compared with villa which was always using low blocks. Arsenal faces difficulty in breaking the low blocks of westham coz this club is very consistent in defending and counter attack.

Arsenal wasn't perform bad, but they're just unlucky. However this is not a problem because it's only a big mac trophy, they have another focus to win Champions and Premier League.

I don't even think being conceded three goals against westham was unlucky. Arsenal was not able to finding the weakspot of westham. Westham performing so discipline during the match, the low block strategy is totally effective in preventing arsenal in scoring against westham.

The winner of this big mac trophy are either West Ham, Liverpool or Newcastle, there's no other club can compete them.

You forgot chelsea which is going to face newcastle soon.   Why don't you count it? I would rather than pick westham but liverpool looks like the scary one.

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

It's 29 minutes already now into the match with West Ham 1 vs Arsenal 0 currently right now as I write this, with an own goal scored by Ben White of Arsenal. So what have you guys to say about this match, do you think West Ham can maintain successfully winning this match, or do you think they will surely be overthrown by the almighty Gunners as the match process further. Because from my own observation, forgetting that the first goal was an "own goal", I still believe that Arsenal have a better chance of coming out victorious in this game whatsoever the case may be, as this match is likely to end either draw or Arsenal winning this game, as they have always worn West Ham for the past 3 previous matches.


So what have you guys have to say about this??

The Arsenal players on the pitch are not the regular premier league players, but they have still been able to control the game, I trust that the goals will follow in a matter of time because West Ham have given the ball away a lot especially in their own half. If West ham do not try to secure this their lead by scoring another goal, it looks like it will be lost. For Manchester United, they should be able to win Newcastle. Chelsea are already ahead, their formation look very much stronger with Reece James and Enzo back.

It's kind of unfortunate "West Ham" actually succeeded in winning the game last night instead the gunners who I had in mind, as a result of "owned goal" scored at 16 minutes into the game by "Ben White" which I'm sure must be the contributing factor weakening the Arsenal players, and likewise strengthening the entire West Ham team  to maintain that hedge they have got to the end with an extra 2 more goals. Likewise, same goes to Man-United who lost their game last night to Newcastle with 3 goals to 0, likewise the same way they lost to Newcastle 6 months ago this year. And as such, I think Man-United deserves a better coach, because Erik ten Hag is literary of no use anymore with all these series of lost game.

[tiCeR]

Is anyone puzzled by Arsenal? Did they underestimate Carabao, leading to their defeat against the underdog team, West Ham?

Rather than focusing on Man United, which is really tough to change, do you think Arsenal has a weak backup squad? In the game against West Ham, it seemed like Arteta couldn't rely on his second-string squad to shine. That means if Arsenal's main squad faces an injury crisis, it could spell bad news for the team.

Plus, there are still 28 games left in the league, and even with a good start, it doesn't guarantee a strong finish. I see Arteta should look for another striker and not rely on Nketiah. I'm worried that if Prince Eddie Nketiah gets injured, will Arsenal be handicapped? Well, even though football is played by 11 people, as of now, I think Eddie is the most capable striker.

Manchester United's defeat against Newcastle was very natural, even though they were humiliated at home with a score of 3 goals, but I don't think anyone was surprised by this result because Manchester United's performance was quite bad and they deserved to lose.

However, what happened with Arsenal was quite surprising, in several previous matches Arteta had also made rotations but the team's performance remained good, but in this match that was not the case.
Maybe West Ham played better so Arsenal's back-up players couldn't improve.

In most cases there wouldn't be any special uproar about the loss against Newcastle United because that game was of less importance, but the situation for Manchester United is quite special these days. Every failure is seen from a different, more critical perspective while every success is more of standard expectation that Manchester United is supposed to meet.

I haven't been following the first line up that Newcastle United usually plays with, but as far as I can see they also substituted a couple of players to allow some others to get some time off. This would mean that Manchester United lost this game against a weakened Newcastle team, which is further embarrassing than it would be otherwise. But 0-3 is 0-3, there are really no extenuating circumstances that make this defeat less considerable.

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I think Arsenal's victory against Sheffield is not enough to be used as a reference because the levels of Sheffield and Newcastle are very different. Sheffield is a promoted team this season and currently they are in the relegation zone and even without Gabriel Jesus, of course Arsenal will still win whatever the score. But when facing Newcastle, whose level since last season has been quite equal, it is not an easy matter for Arsenal to overcome.

These two teams both have good coaches, namely Mikel Arteta and Eddie Howie, of course we will wait for these two coaches to clash with each other's strategies on the field. Apart from all that, currently Newcastle has lost one of its key players, namely Sandro Tonali, who is banned from playing for a very long time due to a previous case and Arsenal also lost their spearhead Gabriel Jesus due to injury, so this will be a very tense three-point battle.

It is a little difficult to predict the match between Newcastle who will host Arsenal while these two teams have almost the same performance and looking at the odds given by the bookie, there is only a slight difference between Newcastle with odds @2.90 while Arsenal @2.50
betting on the match will be very profitable if we have the right prediction because both teams get pretty good odds but in my opinion from the temporary prediction Arsenal have a slightly bigger chance of winning but still I will consider a draw.

In fact, if you see very large odds like this, the right choice is to bet on a handicap to reduce the risk. We know that it is very difficult to predict when the team is at the same level and has other interesting records which are even quite difficult to decide on in betting. Maybe for sure Arsenal will still win this match, but the unexpected outcome of a draw will also be a question mark later. It's better if we don't need to be careless and tempted by such big odds. So in my opinion the safe and correct step is to bet on handicap (0.5) with odds @1.42 for Arsenal's advantage but if you are not satisfied with these odds then you can take a BTTS bet with odds @1.73 which will definitely happen.

[knowngunman]

Manchester United's defeat against Newcastle was very natural, even though they were humiliated at home with a score of 3 goals, but I don't think anyone was surprised by this result because Manchester United's performance was quite bad and they deserved to lose.

You mean they deserve to lose?   but like seriously and to be very honest, manchester united team quality has become so low and degraded to nothing. The defense entirely was a disaster, the attack was very poor, a single counter attack wasn't introduced in the full 90 minutes of the game, what a calamity!

However, Erik alone is not the problem here, some players are not given their all. Do you think if Man United sack Erik and appoint another manager, the players will bounce back? I don't think so. Those players will still do the same thing. Manchester united has some lazy players at the moment. United have appointed 5 past managers and the story is till the same, both the culture and tradition of the club is very poor. Just imagine losing back to back at Old Trafford.

[Leviathan.007]

Manchester United and Arsenal are out of the EFL Carabao Cup

Even if I anticipated the lose of Manchester United, I have never reasoned that Westham United is gona eliminate Arsenal tonight. Reason being that Arsenal is so much in form and recently they are doing great. Could it be that Arteta played with the second eleven? If that is the reason why Westham defeated Arsenal woefully, it therefore means that Arsenal is still having problems of squad depth, which was what denied them the English premier League title last season. So, it is also expected that they will have similar problem, this season if there is no depth of quality players in the team.
Could it also be that Arsenal deliberately crash out of EFL cup to be more focused in more important matches.

The case of Arsenal is really different from that of Manchester United. In Manchester United, since they don't have a good situation in the Premier League, maybe by winning the EFL Ten Hag could get out of the pressure and this tournament could help the team. But for Arteta and his team, EFL was not the priority at all and they wanted to put more energy into the other important tournament in this season.

[tusandii]

Is anyone puzzled by Arsenal? Did they underestimate Carabao, leading to their defeat against the underdog team, West Ham?

Rather than focusing on Man United, which is really tough to change, do you think Arsenal has a weak backup squad? In the game against West Ham, it seemed like Arteta couldn't rely on his second-string squad to shine. That means if Arsenal's main squad faces an injury crisis, it could spell bad news for the team.

Plus, there are still 28 games left in the league, and even with a good start, it doesn't guarantee a strong finish. I see Arteta should look for another striker and not rely on Nketiah. I'm worried that if Prince Eddie Nketiah gets injured, will Arsenal be handicapped? Well, even though football is played by 11 people, as of now, I think Eddie is the most capable striker.

Manchester United's defeat against Newcastle was very natural, even though they were humiliated at home with a score of 3 goals, but I don't think anyone was surprised by this result because Manchester United's performance was quite bad and they deserved to lose.

However, what happened with Arsenal was quite surprising, in several previous matches Arteta had also made rotations but the team's performance remained good, but in this match that was not the case.
Maybe West Ham played better so Arsenal's back-up players couldn't improve.

I'm a little surprised why some people are still discussing the bad things about Manchester United, even though currently Manchester United, no matter how hard they try, will still have the same inconsistent results and this will continue until Erik Ten Hag gets additional players to strengthen each line and I read from everyone's replies here and still believe that this club will rise when the time is right and for Arsenal defeat in yesterday's match I was a little disappointed because after all beating WestHam was an easy thing for Arsenal but surprisingly Arsenal could fail to get that win and what would be worse Arsenal could only get 1 goal in the last minute so I concluded that if Arsenal experienced a little difficulty in yesterday's match or won, it was just Arteta strategy not to appear strong.

[3meek]

Is anyone puzzled by Arsenal? Did they underestimate Carabao, leading to their defeat against the underdog team, West Ham?

Rather than focusing on Man United, which is really tough to change, do you think Arsenal has a weak backup squad? In the game against West Ham, it seemed like Arteta couldn't rely on his second-string squad to shine. That means if Arsenal's main squad faces an injury crisis, it could spell bad news for the team.

Plus, there are still 28 games left in the league, and even with a good start, it doesn't guarantee a strong finish. I see Arteta should look for another striker and not rely on Nketiah. I'm worried that if Prince Eddie Nketiah gets injured, will Arsenal be handicapped? Well, even though football is played by 11 people, as of now, I think Eddie is the most capable striker.

Manchester United's defeat against Newcastle was very natural, even though they were humiliated at home with a score of 3 goals, but I don't think anyone was surprised by this result because Manchester United's performance was quite bad and they deserved to lose.

However, what happened with Arsenal was quite surprising, in several previous matches Arteta had also made rotations but the team's performance remained good, but in this match that was not the case.
Maybe West Ham played better so Arsenal's back-up players couldn't improve.

I'm a little surprised why some people are still discussing the bad things about Manchester United, even though currently Manchester United, no matter how hard they try, will still have the same inconsistent results and this will continue until Erik Ten Hag gets additional players to strengthen each line and I read from everyone's replies here and still believe that this club will rise when the time is right and for Arsenal defeat in yesterday's match I was a little disappointed because after all beating WestHam was an easy thing for Arsenal but surprisingly Arsenal could fail to get that win and what would be worse Arsenal could only get 1 goal in the last minute so I concluded that if Arsenal experienced a little difficulty in yesterday's match or won, it was just Arteta strategy not to appear strong.

I'm not surprised Man U lost yesterday... Newcastle played with the main squad they play with all the time, but Man U played with players I don't know... Of course with that squad they would have lost to Newcastle without a doubt...