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Question: Who will be the champion in 2024/25 season?
Manchester City - 41 (45.1%)
Liverpool - 19 (20.9%)
Arsenal - 24 (26.4%)
Chelsea - 1 (1.1%)
Manchester United - 4 (4.4%)
Totenham - 0 (0%)
Newcastle - 0 (0%)
Other - 2 (2.2%)
Total Voters: 91

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November 02, 2023, 01:07:16 PM
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Manchester united is really understand performing against Newcastle and it's really bad because they are at home and been this embarrassed is quite unfortunate that ten hag have to allow the team continually be humiliated at home this often without any improvement.

I was expecting some brilliance from Manchester united today even if they don't win but it would be considered a fair play but this cannot be considered because they are playing at home, loosing 0-3 to Newcastle is really humiliating and am sure by now the fans will be really disappointed already, their performance seem like that of amateurs and not a big team soon playing with Manchester united will be the case of playing with a small team.

I'm telling you, whenever Manchester United plays, their performances always resemble those of a team from league one; they can't touch the ball for very long and lose to Newcastle 3:0. At Old Trafford, Manchester City also defeated them 3:0; they never put on a strong enough show to even take advantage of home field advantages and win any games; their defenses are always weak. This could demonstrate to me that Elanga and Fred are truly benefiting the team while they are still there, as this season's performance is far worse than last year's. Although we all know Newcastle is currently stronger than Manchester United, losing 3:0 at home wasn't good news.

Ten Hag starts Rashford off the bench in the EFL Cup, but if it's the Premier League, he will use him from the beginning. I'm not sure what he's playing for; I don't know whether he always feels bad for his losing club. This is not what a club will need from a coach; All these losses are a huge embarrassment from a club like Manchester United. Ten Hag's need to set higher standards because he is responsible for everything. I'm not sure if he was trying to build the club or destroy it. If care is not taken, he will leave the club soon.

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November 02, 2023, 01:20:32 PM
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Yes the defence of Manchester United has been on the weak side, but Maguire and the lindelof have been doing exceptional job recently. Dallot was not able to attack almiron properly during that first goal encounter, Maguire would have done a good job if he was in the position of Dallot.
Manchester United really need improvement, I don't know if there should be change on the coach or the entire squared, it really frustrating seeing United strongly to win almost every week.
From this defeat I don't think that Manchester United's defense line was at fault, but indeed Manchester United's overall performance was very bad, the team's play was not well organized in all lines so they seemed unable to do anything to withstand attacks from Newcastle and even it would be almost impossible for them to turn things around.
The series of defeats that Manchester United continues to experience and the team's play is very bad, I don't know how Ten Hag will take steps to improve this team, I think the Manchester United team is very damaged.

And for Newcastle, they have very high self-confidence now after managing to get rid of the Manchester duo without conceding. Previously, Newcastle had beaten Manchester City by 1 goal and now they have beaten Manchester United again with a very landslide score of 3 goals without reply.
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November 02, 2023, 01:21:43 PM
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Ten Hag had all of such supports so if he fails with given tasks to improve the club, he really deserved to be sacked by Manchester United. Maybe this season ending will decide he will stay in Old Trafford or will be sacked.
Erik Ten Hag's future in Manchester United depends on where they finish this season, if they end the season disappointingly, i am pretty sure the patience of those at United's hierarchy would run out and he'd be fired. United have started the season in the worst way possible: eliminated from the Carabao cup, 8th position in the league table, won only 1 game out of 3 in the CL and could well be eliminated from the group stage.

Ten Hag is under quite a lot of pressure, this is not what the fans want to see, and TBH i cannot see a change in fortune happening, thus it might actually be inevitable that Erik Ten Hag would get fired, sooner or later.

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November 02, 2023, 01:43:14 PM
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Ten Hag had all of such supports so if he fails with given tasks to improve the club, he really deserved to be sacked by Manchester United. Maybe this season ending will decide he will stay in Old Trafford or will be sacked.
Erik Ten Hag's future in Manchester United depends on where they finish this season, if they end the season disappointingly, i am pretty sure the patience of those at United's hierarchy would run out and he'd be fired. United have started the season in the worst way possible: eliminated from the Carabao cup, 8th position in the league table, won only 1 game out of 3 in the CL and could well be eliminated from the group stage.

Ten Hag is under quite a lot of pressure, this is not what the fans want to see, and TBH i cannot see a change in fortune happening, thus it might actually be inevitable that Erik Ten Hag would get fired, sooner or later.
After yesterday's game I think alot of Manchester United fans would begin to stop believing in Erik Ten Hag  because his strategy is not working for them and they're probably tired of watching boring football everyweek they have a match day, they've had back to back lose at Old Trafford in their last 2 games against City and Newcastle and also their home record this season is very poor.

 This could probably be Manchester United worst season, they won the Caraboa Cup last season but could not even reach the semi-finals cause of how bad their performance is this season their fans are already complaining alot on social media and if there's no changes sooner or later then I think the board would consider sacking Erik Ten Hag.
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November 02, 2023, 01:45:12 PM
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Manchester United are a really shitty team for losing to Newcastle.
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November 02, 2023, 01:45:29 PM
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Erik ten Hague's team has started a black streak and I can't see how they will solve all their problems. Manchester has eight defeats in the first 15 games of the season, United's worst result since 1962. On top of that, they have lost five times in their last ten home games, a result the team hasn't had since 1930! If United continue to play like this, we will learn many more such statistical facts from the past.

MU is just another chelsea. These clubs have similar performances. Chelsea has been also recording the worst record ever faced by the club too. It seems like that manchester united needs to sack ten hag and find someone to replace him. The bad record will still continue if manchester united will not get a new appointment. Im not saying ten hag was bad but a few years already spent by him in united and so far no significant progress being made by him. How long the fans need to be patience waiting for manchester united to show good and consistent performance?
I have seen so many interviews by MU fans about how disappointed they are. No doubt if ten hag being slammed by so many manchester united fans.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Many people are raging toward him at this moment. They demand ten hag to leave from the club and i do really support the decision from those fans. There must be specific time for ten hag to proves his worthiness as a coach.
It can't be tolerated even longer when united will get another bad result like unable to pass UCL group stage.

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November 02, 2023, 01:47:54 PM
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In the next match schedule for the top three team Arsenal will experience little difficulty because they have to meet Newcastle and play at Newcastle's home ground.
As time goes by this season Newcastle is slowly showing revival and starting to play more consistently so that Arsenal may be under less pressure in this match.

Meanwhile, Manchester City and Tottenham have matches that are easy to win.

Manchester City will face Bournemouth, which is lower team and is said to be very weak.
It is very likely that Haaland and his friends can party goals in this match so that they can secure full points.
Even though they are currently still in third place, if this match wins and Arsenal draws or loses to Newcastle then it is certain that Manchester City will replace Arsenal who is in second place.

Tottenham have Chelsea as their opponent and we know how Chelsea have performed in recent seasons.
What a very good day for Tottenham and Chelsea to be able to win easily.

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November 02, 2023, 02:04:31 PM
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I'm not surprised Man U lost yesterday... Newcastle played with the main squad they play with all the time, but Man U played with players I don't know... Of course with that squad they would have lost to Newcastle without a doubt...
I can't guess for sure Ten Hag's purpose in rotating several players when facing Newcastle. Is the strategy used by Ten Hag to provide opportunities for players who have not had a chance to play so far or is he not too interested in the EFL Cup competition. I don't think Ten Hag underestimates Newcastle, because he knows how strong Newcastle is this season.
Maybe he doesn't want to take risks in the EFL Cup, Ten Hag is more focused on the UCL and EPL this season. In the UCL they are limping, there is still a lot of work that Ten Hag needs to do to bring Manchester United through to the round of 16. Meanwhile in the EPL Manchester United is in an unfavorable position.

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November 02, 2023, 02:04:49 PM
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                            Manchester United Vs Newcastle United

The game is currently 2-0 in favour of Newcastle United, as almiron put a beautiful goal against United. Though I believe the goal was a defensive error from United defence, as almiron took on Dallot on the run move towards the the 18 yard box, before onana could rush towards almiron, he had to use his left foot to flip the ball pass onana.
The second goal as well, is a defensive error, This first half is devastating for united.
Manchester United's defense is very weak. Just like in the previous match, we can't blame Onana because he was the most overwhelmed because he had to be responsible for the weaknesses in the defense line. My estimate turned out to be wrong. Because I think the score will stay 0-1 for the first half. But now the score has changed to 0-2. If Manchester United doesn't get up soon then Newcastle could score another goal.
Yes the defence of Manchester United has been on the weak side, but Maguire and the lindelof have been doing exceptional job recently. Dallot was not able to attack almiron properly during that first goal encounter, Maguire would have done a good job if he was in the position of Dallot.
Manchester United really need improvement, I don't know if there should be change on the coach or the entire squared, it really frustrating seeing United strongly to win almost every week.

Manchester United's recent 3-0 defeat against Newcastle was indeed a difficult pill to swallow. Now that Old Trafford is no longer haunted and scary for opposing teams, this is a worrying phenomenon if nothing changes in the near future

Man United's defense is very fragile and very easy to pass, Erik Tag must immediately introspect on the team. Despite the valiant efforts of their goalkeeper, Onana, disappointment remained, especially with the poor performance of their winger, Anthony, who not only struggled on the pitch but also committed several dangerous fouls.

This defeat must mean that Manchester United must be able to bounce back stronger in the upcoming matches in both the EPL and Champions League, by showing their potential and sportsmanship on the field. I still hope they can rise from this downturn.
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November 02, 2023, 02:05:47 PM
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Ten Hag had all of such supports so if he fails with given tasks to improve the club, he really deserved to be sacked by Manchester United. Maybe this season ending will decide he will stay in Old Trafford or will be sacked.
Erik Ten Hag's future in Manchester United depends on where they finish this season, if they end the season disappointingly, i am pretty sure the patience of those at United's hierarchy would run out and he'd be fired. United have started the season in the worst way possible: eliminated from the Carabao cup, 8th position in the league table, won only 1 game out of 3 in the CL and could well be eliminated from the group stage.

Ten Hag is under quite a lot of pressure, this is not what the fans want to see, and TBH i cannot see a change in fortune happening, thus it might actually be inevitable that Erik Ten Hag would get fired, sooner or later.
I think Ten Hag future will not be determined at the end of this season and i am sure Manchester United owner will have no more patience to wait until the league ended because there was a rumour they will see for the next 4 matches and Ten Hag should be able to bringing Manchester United to gets positive results against Fulham, Luton, and Everton at Premier League and on champion league against Copenhagen and if Manchester United lose from those matches i think big possibilities the owner will thinking to sacked him
During this season Manchester United has through 15 matches in all competitions and they have already lose 7 times and these records is worse than last season because last season Manchester United only lose 4 times from 15 matches so it's normal if Ten Hag under pressure

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November 02, 2023, 02:22:48 PM
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Manchester United are a really shitty team for losing to Newcastle.
Man, don't be so judgemental, in sports, any team or club, not matter how good the players there, does have some chances of losing, even to a team or club believed to be smaller, that does not mean they are shitty just as you have said.
Disregard the fact that Manchester united is having issues, which is not Peculiar to them alone, Chelsea are also going through the same thing.

Think about last year's world cup when Argentina lost to Saudi Arabia, many assumed Argentina to be shitty, but at the end of the tournament, the same Argentina took the world cup home.

That a team lost a match to a smaller team does not make them shitty, respect them still for me and you may concede more goals if we are sent to play there  Grin

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November 02, 2023, 02:28:16 PM
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Two defeats at Old Trafford in two different competitions were very embarrassing for Manchester United, especially since the fans were already disappointed with this team. Previously Manchester United were humiliated by their neighbors Manchester United with a score of 0-3 and last night they lost again with the same score of 0-3 against Newcastle.

It is truly unforgivable the results achieved by the Red Devils so far and Erik Ten Hag always responds to these bad results with anomalous words that do not reflect his responsibility as a coach. A home defeat is clearly more embarrassing than an away defeat and I think the current Old Trafford is no longer as scary since the Sir Alex Ferguson era because the visiting team can always play freely and use Old Trafford as a training ground.
I agree with you that Old Trafford is no longer scary for visiting teams, due to a series of very embarrassing defeats recently. Ten Hag led United to break various bad records under his leadership as head coach. Club officials must take a firm stance to end the Dutch coach tenure, if they don't want to see the Red Devils end the season worse than before. I doubt their next match will be against Fulham, it seems like getting a draw is quite difficult.

Their latest defeat to Newcastle indicates that Ten Hag has failed in managing the club, whatever he puts forward will look like just an excuse. It looks like United this season will not be able to win any trophies, just like the fate of Chelsea which is being handled by Pochettino. Large expenditures on the transfer market have not had any impact on improving performance, maybe it is time for Ten Hag to leave.
Moreover, defeat in the derby is certainly very difficult for Red Devils fans to accept and even though we know the performance of these two teams is quite different, Manchester United should be able to hold on to a draw as much as possible rather than having to accept defeat at Old Trafford. I often see comments from several people on social media who say that Erik ten Hag still maintains his previous style of play at Ajax and in fact this is also quite proven by the recruitment of Erik ten Hag which brought Lisandro Martinez and also Antony.

Actually, I don't know what happened and if what Erik ten Hag implemented was true then it was clearly a mistake because Ajax and Manchester United are two different teams and here Manchester United's big name cannot be equated with the team he previously coached. Erik Ten Hag has to face a lot of pressure and his responsibilities are getting bigger. What is certain is that Erik ten Hag's time at Manchester United will not be much and he must return to providing consistent wins if he doesn't want to be fired in a short time.
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November 02, 2023, 02:45:03 PM
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Newcastle has indeed become a respected club since the club changed ownership. They are a very strong club, even since last season we know that Newcastle has suffered very few defeats. In fact, what was most surprising about Newcastle was that they were able to beat PSG even though in the end Newcastle had to lose to Dortmund. But I think Newcastle lack consistency. Because sometimes they have difficulty winning when facing teams that are weaker than them, such as when Newcastle were held to a draw by West Ham and Wolves. But in their latest match in the EFL Cup I saw Newcastle able to beat Man United very convincingly. So Arsenal really have to increase their vigilance when facing Newcastle. In this week's match, Newcastle is the host. A draw seems like the most likely outcome. But it is difficult to determine who will be the favorite in this match. Because both Arsenal and Newcastle have their own advantages.
I think "respected" is a little bit of a stretch word considering they are sportwashing their blood money but yeah surely if fans are happy with it then it's fine.

The whole world keeps asking "how did people allow someone like Hitler to exist, why did nobody stop him before he started killing all those people" when reading history, and then they do not realize that they are supporting a team owner that has killed a journalist and chopped him to pieces just because the journalist criticized him, and been murdering people all over Yemen for a decade now, I guess it is not at the middle of the Europe so we don't care? Not gonna keep making it political, but I can say that it is a good enough reason for me to want them to lose as much as possible.

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November 02, 2023, 02:45:27 PM
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Manchester United are a really shitty team for losing to Newcastle.
Man, don't be so judgemental, in sports, any team or club, not matter how good the players there, does have some chances of losing, even to a team or club believed to be smaller, that does not mean they are shitty just as you have said.
Disregard the fact that Manchester united is having issues, which is not Peculiar to them alone, Chelsea are also going through the same thing.

Think about last year's world cup when Argentina lost to Saudi Arabia, many assumed Argentina to be shitty, but at the end of the tournament, the same Argentina took the world cup home.

That a team lost a match to a smaller team does not make them shitty, respect them still for me and you may concede more goals if we are sent to play there  Grin
Ah yes, in sports winning and losing is very common. But I understand what the OP meant because Manchester United have repeatedly lost both in the EFL, Premier League and in the Champions League. Now what will Erik Ten Hag do to fix their problems that are getting worse by the day. This is a threat to him, because if the management is firm then maybe we will no longer see him in this team.
Despite his success in bringing Manachester United through to the Champions League last season. But in my opinion it is not enough, because they still have to improve, and now they look likely to decline.

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November 02, 2023, 02:54:14 PM
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Manchester United are a really shitty team for losing to Newcastle.
Man, don't be so judgemental, in sports, any team or club, not matter how good the players there, does have some chances of losing, even to a team or club believed to be smaller, that does not mean they are shitty just as you have said.
Disregard the fact that Manchester united is having issues, which is not Peculiar to them alone, Chelsea are also going through the same thing.

Think about last year's world cup when Argentina lost to Saudi Arabia, many assumed Argentina to be shitty, but at the end of the tournament, the same Argentina took the world cup home.

That a team lost a match to a smaller team does not make them shitty, respect them still for me and you may concede more goals if we are sent to play there  Grin
It is true, but the problems faced by Manchester United occur every season or every year, in contrast to the World Cup which only occurs once every four years. And it was natural that at that time Argentina lost to Saudi Arabia and many thought they were bad, because they only met once every four years to defend their country and also required adjustments or adaptations which ultimately paid off.
And as for the problem of Manchester United and Chelsea, obviously they are bad from season to season with little change and then bad again. They are inconsistent in games and whether the fault lies with the players, the coaches or everyone involved.
And almost every week we see a match between Manchester United or another club, so it's different from the World Cup.


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November 02, 2023, 02:56:43 PM
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Manchester United are a really shitty team for losing to Newcastle.

Nothing worst than manchester united at this moment. Playing at home without even scoring a single goal against newcastle. The level of manchester united has been degrading so much. Does ten hag aware about this?
He keeps try to blame his players as the main problems of the teams instead of taking responsibility as a coach who was managing its club. I don't even like the way of ten hag was always making excuses for his fault.
Manchester united needs to get the fuck him out of the club. Ten hag is only destroying manchester united this time.

Someone in the management needs to tell glazer to signing a better coach than him. MU shall not forever be trapped into this shitty position. It's losing against everything.
Chelsea probably becomes the upcoming victim from newcastle.

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November 02, 2023, 03:03:42 PM
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Erik ten Hague's team has started a black streak and I can't see how they will solve all their problems. Manchester has eight defeats in the first 15 games of the season, United's worst result since 1962. On top of that, they have lost five times in their last ten home games, a result the team hasn't had since 1930! If United continue to play like this, we will learn many more such statistical facts from the past.

Looking at Manchester United now, I feel like I saw Liverpool's condition before Jurgen Klopp arrived, they look like a mediocre team who won because of luck. here are some match results that I think are bad even they win these matches:

[UCL] Manchester United 1 - 0 Copenhagen

How can they only win by 1 goal and play at home? They should be able to make at least a difference of 2 or 3 goals, Copenhagen is not a strong team, but Manchester United is weak at the moment.

[PL] Sheffield United 1 - 2 Manchester United
[PL] Manchester United 0 - 1 Crystal Palace
[PL] Burnley 0 - 1 Manchester United


Just like their UCL match against Copenhagen, they could only win by 1 goal against bottom teams like Burnley and Sheffield United, what was even worse, they lost at home against Crystal Palace, which is actually a mid-table team.

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November 02, 2023, 03:05:07 PM
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Manchester United are a really shitty team for losing to Newcastle.
The quality of the MU team today is not like 5 or 10 seasons ago. this is what we see in the MU team currently. the performance shown by the Ten Hag team could not be consistent. they still have too much difficulty facing a team that is stronger than them. Let's just say that currently, Newcastle is a better team than MU this season. Maybe some fans won't accept it, but we can reassess what the MU team has shown at this time. fans may have to admit and accept what happened to the MU team. They will still find it difficult to compete, so MU will be very far from a trophy this season.

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Nothing worst than manchester united at this moment. Playing at home without even scoring a single goal against newcastle. The level of manchester united has been degrading so much. Does ten hag aware about this?
He keeps try to blame his players as the main problems of the teams instead of taking responsibility as a coach who was managing its club. I don't even like the way of ten hag was always making excuses for his fault.
Manchester united needs to get the fuck him out of the club. Ten hag is only destroying manchester united this time.

Someone in the management needs to tell glazer to signing a better coach than him. MU shall not forever be trapped into this shitty position. It's losing against everything.
Chelsea probably becomes the upcoming victim from newcastle.

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There's a rumor concerning Manchester united considering sacking Erik Ten Hag and appointing an interim manager, well I think that's one of the worst decision they'll take cause they'll keep repeating same mistakes they've made in the past that didn't work out, Manchester United would do fine again under Erik Ten Hag it's just  matter of time, I think instead of the coach leaving, there are some players that needs to leave the team.

 There's something their former interim coach Ragnick said while he was at the club, he,said that, for the team to go back to their glory days, they'll need an open heart surgery, which means it's very necessary that they overhaul the squad and introduce new players with a different mentality to help them get better,  Erik ten Hag might have his own share of the blame but hes not really the problem at the club currently.
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November 02, 2023, 03:07:25 PM
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]I can't guess for sure Ten Hag's purpose in rotating several players when facing Newcastle. Is the strategy used by Ten Hag to provide opportunities for players who have not had a chance to play so far or is he not too interested in the EFL Cup competition. I don't think Ten Hag underestimates Newcastle, because he knows how strong Newcastle is this season.
Maybe he doesn't want to take risks in the EFL Cup, Ten Hag is more focused on the UCL and EPL this season. In the UCL they are limping, there is still a lot of work that Ten Hag needs to do to bring Manchester United through to the round of 16. Meanwhile in the EPL Manchester United is in an unfavorable position.
I would agree with that he may not be interested in the EFL and is focused on the UCL and premier league only if he has been performing really good in the premier league and the UCL but it is sad that they are not doing so well in any of these leagues so it doesn't look like it.

Ten hag's team isn't even sure of the UCL yet because their performance there hasn't been such that will give them such hope and confidence for the fans, back home in the premier league they have been inconsistent struggling to climb up the table to be amongst the top four, so I don't think ten hag wasn't interested it looked more to me that the rotation tactics was a trial and error kind of tactics he was hoping will work but it turned out it isn't working, ten hag needs develop a solid tactics and not this trial and error he is doing.

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