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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 87 (46%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.4%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.6%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.7%)
Manchester United - 13 (6.9%)
Totenham - 7 (3.7%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
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November 01, 2023, 12:46:35 PM
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Yeah that's right, Chelsea have done their best by recruiting some expensive players and replaced several coaches but the results did not match expectations so I agree Chelsea just need time to adjust everything and find the strategy and rhythm of the game. We know Pochettino has ability but currently he cannot implement the strategy well for several reasons basically he still has time until the end of the season.
Chelsea has spent a lot of money to recruit several player this season but in fact Chelsea performanced this season is not much different from last season, Pochettino has not made any significant changes to this clubs, I wonder why Chelsea is not as consistentcy as this after successfully hold Arsenal to a draw In the previous match, I thought Chelsea had started to recover and would play better than before, but it turned out that Chelsea lost when they hosted Brentford and Chelsea couldn't even score a goal in that match, so Chelsea was forced to lose points in that match.

True, Todd was willing to spend a lot of money for the good and progress of his squad, the amount of funds he spent was not playing, it was very large, and with the amount of large expenditures it made us or Todd himself initially optimistic that there would be significant progress at Chelsea with the amount of new ammunition that had been brought in. But apparently what happened was, yes there was absolutely no progress at all from this club, I don't understand what the core of the problem is, if we look at Pochettino I think he is one of the coaches who should be able to make changes to a team that is slumping with his myriad experiences in the Premier League, but yes maybe it's too early to say that, maybe Pochettino needs a lot of time to make significant changes to Chelsea, whether it will happen next season or even the next few seasons, we'll just wait.

Yes it is true, in the previous match Chelsea were able to hold the match to a draw against Arsenal, I also quite agree with you, maybe we can consider this result by concluding that maybe there has been a slight change from Chelsea by holding a draw against Arteta's squad. I think this is really a surprising thing because it is quite difficult to get a draw against Arsenal, and yes it turns out I was wrong, because as you said in the next match against Brenford there was absolutely no good result from Chelsea, with this then maybe I will conclude that the results they achieved against Arsenal were nothing more than luck.

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November 01, 2023, 12:52:46 PM
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Sometimes these coaches need to explain to the fans why they take some certain decisions, because is some how annoying with the fans asking why is this happening in the first place.
Arteta's decision on starting a goalkeeper that's playing for the club on loan ahead of his first choice who has been their for the club, giving his all just to see the Gunners become unstoppable and also doing his best to keep a good record while on goal.
Ramsdale is far way better than Raya, and it still shock me to see that despite all the crazy errors Raya has been making Arteta still prefers him to be on goalpost ahead of the Englishman.
What's really the main issue? This is becoming disturbing to always see Raya on every game while Ramsdale isn't injured, and he can still play even if he's the new dad in town. What's happening to Arteta? Does he want to cause conflict in a team that he has built and are United (not Man UTD)?
I think it's all about perspective and the club's internal view. The coach can choose whoever they believe is fit to guard Arsenal's goal, and the audience and fans don't necessarily need to understand the coach's decisions. Yes, the coach's game strategy doesn't have to be publicly disclosed because it involves secrets that can win matches according to the coach's plan.

It's similar to the situation with Maguire. While many viewers and fans wanted Maguire out of Man United, statistically, Maguire's performance is actually the best compared to other defenders. We've all seen his fair share of blunders, but what's shown on TV shouldn't be the sole basis for player selection; statistics can speak volumes.

Ramsdale might appear to be in better form, but Arteta might be considering other factors to field Raya more often. I find that quite normal in football, even though it's a topic of much discussion.
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November 01, 2023, 01:06:36 PM
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Erik Ten Hag have another opportunity to make it right for his club after humiliating defeats against ManchesterCity at Old Trafford, I hope he's fully ready to take on Eddie Howe tonight. We know the high probability of the Magpies winning the Red Devils in today's game. Forecasting a draw match, I don't think is the right thing to do, rather play odds on the number of goals to be score. Manchester united versus Newcastle will take place tonight. What are the actions we expects from both sides and who will qualify for the next stage?
What is certain is that this match will be exciting because in the Red Devils' match against The Magpies, many things will be at stake, especially Erik Tag, whether he is still worthy of being Man United's coach. Apart from that, these two teams have both had problems with inconsistency in the last few matches.

I will bet on the Magpies to win this match. The reason is because the Red Devils currently have a lot of players injured, and their front line is also not performing well. Apart from that, it seems like Erik ten Hag has not been able to improve his midfield so that it appears stronger. So I think if Newcastle can take advantage of Man United's current weakness they should be able to qualify for the next stage.
This is a home game for Manchester United and I honestly doubt them in this one. Eddie Howe's men are a strong side and although they will be playing an away game, they have the ability to win this one.
Manchester United are in a good place right now, especially after they lost at home in the derby game to Mamchester City, they lost in a bad way. I mean they lost the game and they lost the score to their city rivals.
I wouldn't expect them to do anything extraordinary, not that I'm underestimating them, but I think it's in the back of everyone's mind when you look at their current form.

While the Magpeis have had 2 poor gmes, they lost the Champions league mtch, and they have to accept the reality after they had to draw against Wolves FC. But they are still much better than Manchester United.

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November 01, 2023, 01:15:58 PM
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so I wonder why Chelsea is not as consistent as this after successfully hold Arsenal to a draw In the previous match, I thought Chelsea had started to recover and would play better than before, but it turned out that Chelsea lost when they hosted Brentford and Chelsea couldn't even score a goal in that match, so Chelsea was forced to lose points in that match.
I kind of wondered too and I was short of words when I saw Chelsea had that humiliating home defeat against Brentford after they had an entertaining draw in their last game with Arsenal.

Chelsea has spent a lot of money to recruit several players this season but in fact, Chelsea's performance this season is not much different from last season, Pochettino has not made any significant changes to this club,
Coach Pochettino has not shown any sign of capacity of taking Chelsea out of the mess that they are and to the right position of Chelsea in the league where they are supposed to be,  However, I don't want to start concluding this early, since it just only one game that they have lost since after their series of wake up victories, So let's watch the performance of the team henceforth if things will get worse from here or get even better with Chelsea.

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November 01, 2023, 01:20:08 PM
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Chelsea don't deserve any trust to bet on them from now on. They really made me believe in them for once previously and I decided to bet on them against Brentford. However they made me really annoyed after that performance. How can you be this clumsy while you can find numerous chances to score in the first half?

I really don't understand this team. They are still the same as the previous season. There is literally no change despite spending around 500 million euros before this season as well. This team deserve to be managed way better.

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November 01, 2023, 01:21:54 PM
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I think Arsenal's victory against Sheffield is not enough to be used as a reference because the levels of Sheffield and Newcastle are very different. Sheffield is a promoted team this season and currently they are in the relegation zone and even without Gabriel Jesus, of course Arsenal will still win whatever the score. But when facing Newcastle, whose level since last season has been quite equal, it is not an easy matter for Arsenal to overcome.

Even if it can't be used as a reference but it is precisely with that that we know that Arsenal will get a very good injection of enthusiasm because after a narrow win against Manchester City, a draw against Chelsea and a big win against Sheffield United they clearly get good motivation that they need to keep.

Newcastle is one of the clubs to watch out for now especially with a crazy buzz last season as well as a performance that is still good until now clearly indicates they are one of the clubs that are difficult to beat but Arsenal also have the same good conditions even now when compared in terms of experience and the condition of Arsenal's strength still wins.
It's just that the Home match for Newcastle will also put great pressure but I think Arsenal are still able to overcome that.

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November 01, 2023, 01:23:01 PM
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Ten Hague's team has problems in almost all lines. MU can't still find their game, and it became obvious after the defeat from Man City 0:3. Newcastle on the contrary have stability in their games this EPL season. The Magpies have been winning despite a large number of injured players. I think the Red Devils will not be able to play consistently against Newcastle this time too. So, for me it is obvious to bet on Newcastle's victory.
If you look at the current condition of the two teams, it is quite realistic for us to bet on Newcastle winning this match because it is quite possible.
Manchester United have not found their best performance to date due to the many injuries to their players, and this is in contrast to Newcastle, where they have slowly continued to make progress in every match since the start of the season, so I don't have the slightest doubt that they will win. won by Newcastle in this match.

True, Todd was willing to spend a lot of money for the good and progress of his squad, the amount of funds he spent was not playing, it was very large, and with the amount of large expenditures it made us or Todd himself initially optimistic that there would be significant progress at Chelsea with the amount of new ammunition that had been brought in. But apparently what happened was, yes there was absolutely no progress at all from this club, I don't understand what the core of the problem is, if we look at Pochettino I think he is one of the coaches who should be able to make changes to a team that is slumping with his myriad experiences in the Premier League, but yes maybe it's too early to say that, maybe Pochettino needs a lot of time to make significant changes to Chelsea, whether it will happen next season or even the next few seasons, we'll just wait.
It is not easy to build a team that has made a major overhaul of the players in its squad, it is true that Chelsea has spent a lot of money to buy players, and I am not saying that the players Chelsea bought do not have good quality but all these new players need time to develop. create chemistry between players and also with the tactics of the coach.
Pochettino is a good coach and in my opinion Chelsea must be patient and go through the process consistently to be able to improve the team's performance and that takes a long time.
Nothing is instant in football, everything has to be a process.
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November 01, 2023, 01:32:32 PM
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I think Arsenal's victory against Sheffield is not enough to be used as a reference because the levels of Sheffield and Newcastle are very different. Sheffield is a promoted team this season and currently they are in the relegation zone and even without Gabriel Jesus, of course Arsenal will still win whatever the score. But when facing Newcastle, whose level since last season has been quite equal, it is not an easy matter for Arsenal to overcome.

These two teams both have good coaches, namely Mikel Arteta and Eddie Howie, of course we will wait for these two coaches to clash with each other's strategies on the field. Apart from all that, currently Newcastle has lost one of its key players, namely Sandro Tonali, who is banned from playing for a very long time due to a previous case and Arsenal also lost their spearhead Gabriel Jesus due to injury, so this will be a very tense three-point battle.
It is a little difficult to predict the match between Newcastle who will host Arsenal while these two teams have almost the same performance and looking at the odds given by the bookie, there is only a slight difference between Newcastle with odds @2.90 while Arsenal @2.50
betting on the match will be very profitable if we have the right prediction because both teams get pretty good odds but in my opinion from the temporary prediction Arsenal have a slightly bigger chance of winning but still I will consider a draw.

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November 01, 2023, 01:33:41 PM
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Chelsea don't deserve any trust to bet on them from now on. They really made me believe in them for once previously and I decided to bet on them against Brentford. However they made me really annoyed after that performance. How can you be this clumsy while you can find numerous chances to score in the first half?

I really don't understand this team. They are still the same as the previous season. There is literally no change despite spending around 500 million euros before this season as well. This team deserve to be managed way better.
I dont think the players are the problem, it is the ones who run the management. I dont think they can motivate them. I think Chelsea will have no chance to win anything in the premier league this season, so they have to win against Blackburn in the League Cup today. With so much money in the club, the must win a title. The Premier League, the FA Cup and the Champions League are no longer possible - what remains is the League Cup.

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November 01, 2023, 01:40:32 PM
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Chelsea don't deserve any trust to bet on them from now on. They really made me believe in them for once previously and I decided to bet on them against Brentford. However they made me really annoyed after that performance. How can you be this clumsy while you can find numerous chances to score in the first half?

I really don't understand this team. They are still the same as the previous season. There is literally no change despite spending around 500 million euros before this season as well. This team deserve to be managed way better.
Yeah that's why you can advantage by betting against them since Chelsea mostly become favorite due to their popularity despite they have a poor performance.

Chelsea actually only spend 400 Million Euros, the 100 Million Euros is a donation for Ukraine to save Mudryk from war. If Mudryk joined a war against Russian, he might be death. Mudryk need to thank Chelsea by saving him, that's why since he know he's not good in football, he create many videos as a brand ambassador.

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November 01, 2023, 01:47:41 PM
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There is a really lovely competition among Tottenham, Arsenal, Manchester City and Liverpool respectively in the standings. Aston Villa are also trying to keep up with these four teams and they have done pretty good about that so far. Emery is managing Aston Villa really great and I don't actually remember him having a poor season with any team for a long time.

However they are having struggles in big away games so far. They actually beat Chelsea but Chelsea were having a really hard time back then. Liverpool and Newcastle destroyed Aston Villa. However if they keep up a consistent form in general -just as they are doing now- they can be competitive for top 5 at worst.

Yeah the point race still continues it's just that we did not expect that Tottenham was leading because before we thought Tottenham was unable to compete even out of the top 5 but what we think is wrong, whereas Arsenal and Manchester City have been the main competitors since the last 2 seasons so it's not surprised if they are there. Regarding Aston Villa, this team looks more aggressive they are the team with the most goals 26 goals in 10 matches means 2.6 goals in each match but strangely we did not see one of the Aston Villa players on the top score list, really strange right Cheesy their weakness is in defense when fighting a strong team they conceded more often.

Aston Villa don't have any specific striker or player who carries the goal load of the team this season. It is evenly divided among their players that's why we don't see any such player stepping forward. They are playing a really impressive game as a team which is many thanks to Emery.  Smiley

Tottenham are indeed the most surprising team so far. After Kane left the team and they replaced their manager I had bigger doubts about them. Because Kane's departure was already a significant blood loss for the team and we didn't know how Ange Postecoglou would manage the team. But here we are now.

So, did you think that if ollie watkins's contribution was still nothing to the club? Aston villa has mad 26 goals till this time in EPL while watkins has been also contributing around 1/5 from the total GF of aston villa till this time.
Aston villa was working together in scoring a lot of goals i think that ollie still become a guy with most contribution to the aston villa at this moment. His performance is also good enough.

Emery has changed the club a lot with his hands. That's why this guy has a very good reputation among all of football fans. Aston villa has changed a lot after it was signing emery as a new coach. It seems like villa can climb up even higher.
The only thing that makes villa a bit different compared with some strong clubs were quality of players.
The club like arsenal or manchester city have better players on its line up. I think that aston villa is performing so excellently after being able to stay at the top 5.

It's performing even better compared with newcastle and brighton at this moment. No doubt if people called him as a great coach.

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November 01, 2023, 01:52:16 PM
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Chelsea don't deserve any trust to bet on them from now on. They really made me believe in them for once previously and I decided to bet on them against Brentford. However they made me really annoyed after that performance. How can you be this clumsy while you can find numerous chances to score in the first half?

I really don't understand this team. They are still the same as the previous season. There is literally no change despite spending around 500 million euros before this season as well. This team deserve to be managed way better.
I dont think the players are the problem, it is the ones who run the management. I dont think they can motivate them. I think Chelsea will have no chance to win anything in the premier league this season, so they have to win against Blackburn in the League Cup today. With so much money in the club, the must win a title. The Premier League, the FA Cup and the Champions League are no longer possible - what remains is the League Cup.
With the huge expenditure they have spent on building the squad this season, Chelsea are not favorites in the three competitions UCL, EPL and FA Cup, I don't know how the management and club officials think about keeping Pochettino as head coach. It is clear that this expenditure figure is not comparable to the League Cup trophy, which cannot necessarily be achieved due to continuous inconsistency. I think it is very appropriate to no longer trust them to place bets, because it will make us lose.

By being absent from European competition, the Blues should have focused more on securing full points in the EPL, and it seems they failed to do so considering that in ten matches they were only able to collect 12 points and occupy 11th place in the standings. I think this season is their worst period in the last decade.

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Ten Hag may need a few more years in the Premier League until a final judgment can be made, but I think that the league is one level too high for both of them.
Do you think giving him more years can make him the next Alex Ferguson? I doubt that though because the guy lacks what it takes to be a good manager. Let's draw back to the issue with Jadon Sancho, where he has decided that the player is not fit to play in a club like Man UTD simply because he (Ten Haag) feels he's not training enough and I begin to ask myself how he managed to come to the conclusion. Is it that the winger's not  performing how you want him or is there a personal beef he has with the guy? Let's take the issue of Marcus Rashford who partied hard after the 3-0 thrashing by their neighbors, Man City on Sunday. It's not like I'm saying the guy should not have a life but is this not something he should worry about, considering as that might affect Rashford performance in training? With how lenient he was with Rashford, would he have done same if it were Sancho?
 The thing I'm trying to point out here is Haag has difficulties with rapporting with his players and also decision making and as such it won't matter if he stays 5 years at the club, they will still be weak.

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Ten Hag may need a few more years in the Premier League until a final judgment can be made, but I think that the league is one level too high for both of them.
Do you think giving him more years can make him the next Alex Ferguson? I doubt that though because the guy lacks what it takes to be a good manager. Let's draw back to the issue with Jadon Sancho, where he has decided that the player is not fit to play in a club like Man UTD simply because he (Ten Haag) feels he's not training enough and I begin to ask myself how he managed to come to the conclusion. Is it that the winger's not  performing how you want him or is there a personal beef he has with the guy? Let's take the issue of Marcus Rashford who partied hard after the 3-0 thrashing by their neighbors, Man City on Sunday. It's not like I'm saying the guy should not have a life but is this not something he should worry about, considering as that might affect Rashford performance in training? With how lenient he was with Rashford, would he have done same if it were Sancho?
 The thing I'm trying to point out here is Haag has difficulties with rapporting with his players and also decision making and as such it won't matter if he stays 5 years at the club, they will still be weak.

No, ten Hag is absolutely not going to be the next Alex Ferguson. I agree with you and I was more referring to a final judgment about ten Hag's career and that is why I said that I also believe that the Premier League might not be the place where someone with his character can prevail. At Ajax Amsterdam he had lots of players who were not stars yet and I think they get along better with arrogant and highly authoritarian coaches like him. Ten Hag doesn't seem to have great connections to his players. He wants to demonstrate power with force. Alex Ferguson certainly was a person that demanded a lot of respect from the players, but I think he still had a knack for his players and their problems. The example you gave with Sancho is perfect as it's exactly what I think ten Hag doesn't understand as a coach.

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November 01, 2023, 02:13:28 PM
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Arsenal's match against Newcastle is quite difficult to predict and Arsenal are much more favorites because so far they have not been defeated in the Premier League. Arteta needs to be careful because they will visit Newcastle's headquarters so it will not be easy for them to get full points because Newcastle also does not want to accept defeat at home.

Arsenal's match against Newcastle will be close, but I am confident that Arsenal will give it their all and defeat Newcastle at home because Arteta will not make the same mistakes that led to Manchester City overtaking them and winning the league last season. As you can see, Tottenham, Manchester City, Arsenal, and Liverpool are all vying for the trophy this season, and any team that loses a match now will find it difficult to compete with others and win because this season Tottenham and Arsenal are leading and doing well, and they both desperately need this trophy, especially Tottenhamwho has never won it before and has the possibility to win the league this season if they continue performing well without losing matches.

Tottenham will face Chelsea at Hotspur Stadium next week, and I am confident they will defeat Chelsea, because they are in serious trouble this season, and I don't know when they will find their form, because even if they are scoring goal in a match and leading the opponent if the referee have not blow the final whistle I won't not believe they can win the match, because when they play against Arsenal I believe Chelsea will win because they are leading Arsenal by two goals, Later they play a draw with them, and I am confident that if Arsenal is leading Chelsea by two goals they will lose the game.

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November 01, 2023, 02:22:09 PM
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A tough task is indeed being faced by Pochettino. At the beginning of this season he did not experience many good transfers. In addition, Pochettino started the season with many injuries. One of them is Nkunku, it looks like he is Pochettino's project but he has a knee injury and has not played the first game. Though Pochettino expects him to be a source of goals for Chelsea. Against Brentford, he was without Mudryk and Enzo, so the defeat seems to have been due to injuries.

In as much as I feel for Chelsea, I don't want to believe he didn't have much players in the transfer period. They had more than 10 outgoing players and the same time had good inflow of players as well, you can read on this article to see for yourself. Now, with this resources what does he need again to win a trophy for Chelsea? His excuse are the old players weren't signed by him and I'm like what of other managers that are killing shows with their own teams, Pochettino need to do better.

Pertaining to nkuku with injury, he can't say that boy is his only hope to had goals. If he keep using that to justify his failure, then I will say he doesn't know ball, he was there to his position not by performance but either by bribe, or by trickery.

Newcastle United is still in a favorable condition to provide a tough match even though they are playing at home to Man United, because Old Trafford is now not too scary for guests to play there. So I would be interested in betting on Newcastle winning. This can be put to good use by Eddie Howe, Man United condition is difficult to predict in which direction they will go after being beaten several times at home. I think Newcastle can get the full 3 points in today's Carabao Cup competition.

Last season, Newcastle and Manchester United met twice and the two teams displayed commitment in their home matches. The first leg when Manchester United host Newcastle in Old Trafford, the red devils did a clean sheet and won Newcastle and when it was Newcastle turn to host Manchester City, they did made clean sheet as well. The two teams are strong but this season, I'm not sure about that because the last time they challenge eachother, the two teams were sitting on top 4 but now, Newcastle is fair but Manchester United is worse and I think Manchester United might lose.

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November 01, 2023, 02:23:00 PM
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Chelsea don't deserve any trust to bet on them from now on. They really made me believe in them for once previously and I decided to bet on them against Brentford.
Yeah what you said is true, adding Chelsea to our betting slip is risky because even me, when I saw that they seem to be a bit in a good form considering few of there matches they won so I decided to give it a try by adding them to my slip and at last all the game a played entered but however it was only Chelsea that made me not win the bet.

Also even Manchester United I use to be very scared using them for a bet, because Manchester United and Chelsea always have a similar ways of winning and losing matches so based on that you could hardly know what there outcome will be on every of there matches so predicting them will be very difficult.


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November 01, 2023, 02:23:44 PM
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Chelsea don't deserve any trust to bet on them from now on. They really made me believe in them for once previously and I decided to bet on them against Brentford. However they made me really annoyed after that performance. How can you be this clumsy while you can find numerous chances to score in the first half?

After losing to Brentford last week it was true that there was a bit of hesitation in betting on Chelsea. It's very unlikely that they will have difficulty scoring goals and continuously concede goals even though their players are above average. I see that Chelsea lacks players who can finish. Their development is good, actually there is progress, the midfield is full of gems, but in the front line they are the problem. This is Poch's big task to continue to hone the front line players and the next opening against Blackburn.

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I really don't understand this team. They are still the same as the previous season. There is literally no change despite spending around 500 million euros before this season as well. This team deserve to be managed way better.

Because Coach Poch doesn't understand modern football methods. Actually, Chelsea has no excuse for their poor performance if you look at the players they have. They have all the ball speed, movement and passing. It's just that Poch has to be clever at placing players and has to be the main focus during training.

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November 01, 2023, 02:24:11 PM
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Chelsea don't deserve any trust to bet on them from now on. They really made me believe in them for once previously and I decided to bet on them against Brentford. However they made me really annoyed after that performance. How can you be this clumsy while you can find numerous chances to score in the first half?

I really don't understand this team. They are still the same as the previous season. There is literally no change despite spending around 500 million euros before this season as well. This team deserve to be managed way better.
That's why I often miss betting on every Chelsea match. Because since last season I have always been disappointed when betting on them. What makes us even more disappointed is that they even lost in front of their own supporters. But I'm still waiting for this team to get better. It's just that I still don't understand what's wrong with this club. They have changed coaches several times. They have already spent money in the transfer market. But they haven't gotten any results so far. It's just that the Chelsea players seem to have lost their confidence. Because actually if Chelsea were in their best condition with the squad they currently have then they should be better than this. It has been 2 seasons since Brentford managed to beat Chelsea. Well this is quite sad.

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November 01, 2023, 02:30:21 PM
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Chelsea don't deserve any trust to bet on them from now on. They really made me believe in them for once previously and I decided to bet on them against Brentford. However they made me really annoyed after that performance. How can you be this clumsy while you can find numerous chances to score in the first half?

I really don't understand this team. They are still the same as the previous season. There is literally no change despite spending around 500 million euros before this season as well. This team deserve to be managed way better.
I think placing a bet on Chelsea to win that match was very risky judging by their dismal performance against Arsenal penultimate weekend a team that was two goals up and consequently conceded those two goals towards the end of the match is not a team that is really worth betting on, I also placed some bets in last week premier league matches but on Aston Villa to win against Luton and Liverpool to win against Nothingham Forest both bet win instead of betting on Chelsea to win against Brentford, honestly the problem of the club with regards to their dismal performance should be on both the players and the manager despite the massive investment on signing new expensive players yet the club continue to struggle in winning matches.

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