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Whatever it is, Ronaldo will not have his good days at Manchester United again after he wandered for too long to Real Madrid and Juventus. Ronaldo is the best player, but he didn't come to Manchester United when the team had as good a squad as when he left for Real Madrid. Things have changed and when it comes to issue then I won't decide who deserves the blame.
After all, if Ronaldo stays at Manchester United much longer then I think he's just burdening himself in a lot of ways. Fans demand that he perform well and win lots of games, while the depth of Manchester United's squad never fully supports this desire. Coaches have the ability and capacity, while strategy can determine the direction and strength of a team.
Erik Ten Hag is the main reason behind the exits of the undisputed GOAT from Old Trafford last season, perhapes the coach is trying to amend his mistakes. We are quite aware of the present condition of the team, they're struggling and it's exceptionally not stable for the team. Manchester united will forever miss Ronaldo and his tremendous contributions to the team. He's a different breed and he's currently in Al Nassr were he's busy breaking records. Cristiano Ronaldo is the best player Manchester United produced and that's one of the excellence finish for the Red Devils. Man Utd and Ronaldo enjoyed beautiful moments together when reuniting. Gradually, that relationship faded. They begin to have doubts and feel that they are no longer compatible. Man Utd started to collapse. Erik Ten Hag is the person responsible for reviving the team. Given Ronaldo's age, he is undoubtedly outside this coach's plans. Ten Hag needs young people to accompany him. With the primary factor that Man Utd is absent from the Champions League, it is entirely valid for this superstar to consider breaking up. Regardless, Ronaldo is still great in these statistics, goals, or commercial profits. I can't recall that there were any beautiful moments to be honest. It was packed with anger and public discussions about Ronaldo and his role in the team and his relationship with ten Hag. That was dominating the newspapers from the first till the last day or did I miss something more enjoyable about that reunion of Ronaldo and Manchester United? I don't think so. Ronaldo went back to Manchester believing that he would be received courteously as the reigning King, but I think he went too far with his expectations as his wording and the way he acted in public reflected pretty well what he expected from his second stay at the club. I wasn't surprised that some players were happy when he was gone again.
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November 08, 2023, 10:41:44 PM |
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No matter how good you are as a couch, if you lack good relationship manner with your players you will not succeed in the team because without players, coach did not have anything to do, and the little players Manchester United have Ten Hag relationship with them is becoming an issue since from the time he started with Ronaldo and he succeeded in letting him leave the team, the same thing with Da Gea, now Jordan Sancho. I wanted supporting Ten Hag during Ronald's time, but his continuity in doing such act is my problem with him because this act is making Manchester United lose matches.
There was some kind of relationship that exist between Jadon Sancho and Ronaldo because after the feud between Jadon Sancho and Ten Hag, Ronaldo advise him on the way to reconcile with Eric Ten Hag and all didn’t work out, but that must have been because he didn’t ask him for forgiveness and Ten Hag also is full of pride. There whole issues became very more complicated and they just have to leave an expensive and productive player on the bench. His presence in the field is very important because he adds value to the team more when playing for them. If this continues, players are not to be blamed again but coaches needs to be questioned on their behalf.
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November 08, 2023, 10:43:54 PM |
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Newcastle in the previous two matches managed to beat Manchester United in the EFL Cup with a score of 3-0 and after that, Newcastle managed to beat Arsenal in the Premier League with a score of 1-0 . So ya, I still assume that Newcastle managed to have a good performance at this moment.
Obviously Newcastle United has won many of there matches, however this is the first time I'm seeing Newcastle United this good performance although I'm not disputing the fact that there performance on other season was not good but what I'm trying to say is that this season has been there year of excellent performance. Because with how good in performance Arsenal is I never imagine Newcastle United could win them because there record right from there last season can never be compared with the performance of Newcastle United, so I was surprised with the way Newcastle peak form this season. If you don't know, Newcastle are one of the best sides in the premier league now,they have been excellent since last season.They are aiming to win a trophy this season and with the way they are playing currently,there is no doubt about what they can achieve.They played yesterday in the champions league,and they were beaten by Dortmund because they are the most inform team in their group.I really love what Newcastle have done so far and what they are doing in training everyday. I will wait this season to see where they would end up when the season.Doole
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November 08, 2023, 10:44:26 PM |
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No matter how good you are as a couch, if you lack good relationship manner with your players you will not succeed in the team because without players, coach did not have anything to do, and the little players Manchester United have Ten Hag relationship with them is becoming an issue since from the time he started with Ronaldo and he succeeded in letting him leave the team, the same thing with Da Gea, now Jordan Sancho. I wanted supporting Ten Hag during Ronald's time, but his continuity in doing such act is my problem with him because this act is making Manchester United lose matches.
Maybe what you said is quite right because a breakdown in relationships with players will create quite a bad situation for them in every match. Because the players don't have the full trust of the coach, of course they won't play better to be able to bring the team to victory. I think Erik Ten Hag current position is very extreme, He will be fired if he fails to bring Manchester united through to the round of 16. Because that is one of his hopes of being able to last longer with Manchester United if he succeeds in bringing Manchester united to the round of 16. Yes, regarding harmony within the team, of course it must be maintained as best as possible by all players and coaches and what is happening at Manchester united currently is that harmony between player and coach is quite chaotic. Especially the Sancho problem which has not been resolved until now. Wouldn't something like this disturb the team and Erik Ten Hag has to lower his emotional tension and have to give a lot of confidence to the player to be able to work harder in achieving their target.
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November 08, 2023, 10:51:20 PM |
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I would really like to see Tottenham becoming the champions in the Premier League honestly. The last time they made it was in the 1960/61 season. They achieved two titles those times. It is a really long time and it would be incredible for the history of this team to win another title after all these years. I also really want to see the EPL champion this season from another team that hasn't felt like an EPL champion for a long time. In my opinion, they should be able to get this opportunity provided that as long as no players are injured, they should also be able to challenge Man City this season because currently they are only focused on the EPL and FA Cup so the fatigue factor is not too much of a problem for Tottenham. Napoli finished their longing for the title for 30+ years for example. I would like to see Tottenham achieving a similar success as well. The only difference is that there isn't a team like Manchester City in the Serie A. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) If Totteham win the EPL like Napoli did after a long time, I will remember the player Kane. This is if it is true that Totteham will win the EPL later, Kane will definitely be the object of ridicule from fans "so all this time Tottenham has had difficulty winning because of Kane's bad luck" ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) For the recent six seasons we have only seen Manchester City and Liverpool as the champions. Liverpool did it only once though. Manchester United's domination in the past ended and Manchester City's started after a few seasons. This makes the league more boring to watch honestly. None of the teams should be able to turn this league into like a farmers league. Yeah after Kane left Tottenham started to play better. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) But joking aside of course it isn't related to him. He was doing his best before leaving. He scored even 30 goals in the previous season despite the horrible season his team had. Tottenham were lacking in team effort but now they have what they needed.
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November 08, 2023, 11:00:14 PM |
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I think it's not right to blame Ten Hag for the bad performance in Manchester United because the same coach he saved this team in the last season when they were not in a good situation and now because of the bad performance of Manchester United during the transfer window this team in even weaker than before, changing the goalkeeper and sing Onana for the rest of this season is an example of the bad performance in Macnshter United and I think Ten Hag is not guilty of it.
Who else would take the fall for the bad performance of a team if not the coach? He’s the face of the club and would take the credit for good performance so why not the bad ones as well? It’s perfectly justified in my opinion on blaming the coach for bad performance. He did manage to take the club and qualify for the Champions league cup but supporters are looking to the present and how better can Manchester United’s performance be.
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November 08, 2023, 11:01:59 PM |
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I think it's not right to blame Ten Hag for the bad performance in Manchester United because the same coach he saved this team in the last season when they were not in a good situation and now because of the bad performance of Manchester United during the transfer window this team in even weaker than before, changing the goalkeeper and sing Onana for the rest of this season is an example of the bad performance in Macnshter United and I think Ten Hag is not guilty of it.
When a club is performing poorly, the first person people are going to blame for the club's poor performance is the coach, because they believe the coach is the one who is supposed to make an appropriate lineup. If a player is performing poorly, the coach will still be blamed because they believe the coach can make substitutions. Ten Hag was given the opportunity to sign players, but his signing failed, which is making people complain about him. The goalkeeper that he signed has been performing below everyone’s expectations, and people are blaming him for allowing De Gea to leave the club. The reason everyone is complaining is that Ten Hag was given the opportunity to build the club, but the club is getting worse. If a club is performing poorly, the first person to blame is the coach, before players will be blamed.
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November 08, 2023, 11:15:51 PM |
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Most players in this Newcastle team aren’t used to the UCL and as we all know the UCL requires not just quality players but experience on the competition and that’s what’s lacking in this young Newcastle squad, against Dortmund they tried to play a good game in both pegs conceding not up to 4 legs in both legs shows the level of improvement in this side, probably they’ll look for a way to progress to the Round of 16 else I think they’ll flourish in the Europa League.
Newcastle is indeed a strong club, but as you said, they are newcomers to the UCL. So, you could say their experience and of course their confidence may be different, not as high. But just to be in the UCL, that's a good thing that they should be able to maintain next season. What's more, the first time they were in the UCL, they were in truly the hell group phase, so it's not surprising that they didn't qualify. The opponents were PSG, Milan and Dortmund who have been in the UCL many times and are very experienced. Try if Newcastle were not in that group, maybe he would have a high chance. So, yes, there is no need to be very disappointed with them. Because they have actually tried optimally, but their opponents are really tough.
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November 08, 2023, 11:23:46 PM |
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No matter how good you are as a couch, if you lack good relationship manner with your players you will not succeed in the team because without players, coach did not have anything to do, and the little players Manchester United have Ten Hag relationship with them is becoming an issue since from the time he started with Ronaldo and he succeeded in letting him leave the team, the same thing with Da Gea, now Jordan Sancho. I wanted supporting Ten Hag during Ronald's time, but his continuity in doing such act is my problem with him because this act is making Manchester United lose matches.
Maybe what you said is quite right because a breakdown in relationships with players will create quite a bad situation for them in every match. Because the players don't have the full trust of the coach, of course they won't play better to be able to bring the team to victory. I think Erik Ten Hag current position is very extreme, He will be fired if he fails to bring Manchester united through to the round of 16. Because that is one of his hopes of being able to last longer with Manchester United if he succeeds in bringing Manchester united to the round of 16. Yes, regarding harmony within the team, of course it must be maintained as best as possible by all players and coaches and what is happening at Manchester united currently is that harmony between player and coach is quite chaotic. Especially the Sancho problem which has not been resolved until now. Wouldn't something like this disturb the team and Erik Ten Hag has to lower his emotional tension and have to give a lot of confidence to the player to be able to work harder in achieving their target. Manchester United player's played like they meant to play and wanted to win, aside Erik Ten Hag has not been alone problem in today's game even if he wants, player's like Dalot and Varane also cost what Erik did. The equalizer 3--3 was caused by Dlaot for he didn't do enough. Wan Bisakka has shown strength and support countless times for Manchester United he was really key in solidifying Manchester united defender's. Manchester United played well there's nothing to argue of about, but they have been unlucky yet again in tonight's fixture. Congratulations as they will be back to the Premier League not Europa League.
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November 08, 2023, 11:25:08 PM |
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I have been reading a lot of comments on the bad situation at Manchester United and fans seem to be pointing the finger at Erik Ten Hag. I don’t like ETH but Manchester United’s poor performances cannot be completely blamed on Erik Ten Hag, the board’s decision making in the transfer window has a role to play. Ten Hag is managing the club with the players at his disposal and I feel Manchester United needs to be more technical in their transfer dealings.
The success and fall of a squad will be pointed directly at the coach and then his players. Erik Ten Hag is the manager so he should be blamed for whatever results they get! The manager is good at analysis and picking his first eleven for games, bit you see this season? He has been sentimental in a way and it has affected him negatively. Over the years, since the retirement of Sir Alex Ferguson, Manchester United have signed players who aren't capable of playing for the badge. They need a new sporting director so they can work together to achieve a common goal. The glazers also known as the owners are not capable of handling the club, they should sell the club if possible. Erik Ten Hag should be blamed mostly because of the problems they had in the transfer window. They had a goalkeeper like De Gea who had a good performance but Erik Ten Hag wanted to use Onana because they were working with each other in Ajax and we saw this idea was not working in Manchester United also the other players they bought couldn't help the team. I think the only problem in Manchester United was this weak performance in the summer.
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November 08, 2023, 11:26:21 PM |
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Newcastle is indeed a strong club, but as you said, they are newcomers to the UCL. So, you could say their experience and of course their confidence may be different, not as high. But just to be in the UCL, that's a good thing that they should be able to maintain next season. What's more, the first time they were in the UCL, they were in truly the hell group phase, so it's not surprising that they didn't qualify. The opponents were PSG, Milan and Dortmund who have been in the UCL many times and are very experienced. Try if Newcastle were not in that group, maybe he would have a high chance. So, yes, there is no need to be very disappointed with them. Because they have actually tried optimally, but their opponents are really tough.
Not every team can perform excellence outside EPL just as in the scenario. Eddie Howe have plans to bounce back to the competitive race to qualify for the next phase. The only attributes capable of pushing the Magpies elevated is having good strategy towards their opponents, and Eddie Howe should spot the weaknesses of his team and fixed them. Newcastle is strong enough to face any elite teams in English Premier League but when it comes to UEFA Champions league, they've zero experience, giving their oppositions more advantages for the opponent.
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November 08, 2023, 11:59:24 PM |
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Erik Ten Hag should be blamed mostly because of the problems they had in the transfer window. They had a goalkeeper like De Gea who had a good performance but Erik Ten Hag wanted to use Onana because they were working with each other in Ajax and we saw this idea was not working in Manchester United also the other players they bought couldn't help the team. I think the only problem in Manchester United was this weak performance in the summer.
Sure, Ten Hag has the responsibility of some problems in Man United. De Gea left because Teh Hag wasn't satisfied with De Gea performance. Ronaldo also decided to leave because he has a problem with Ten Hag. And there are also many other drama between Ten Hag and other Man United players. It makes his relationship with Man United players be worse now. The latest issue I heard, Ten Hag has a problem with Jadon Sancho. Yes, some new players bought by Ten Hag can't help much for Man United. Onana, Sergio Reguilón, and Antony are some players who can't play with their best performance. They still didn't prove that they deserve to buy with big money in the previous transfer season. So, we can understand if many fans are disappointed with Ten Hag and those players.
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November 08, 2023, 11:59:48 PM |
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The bad news for Manchester City is about center-back John Stones, it seems this player is not in a good situation he can't play for the team for a long time. John Stones got injured in the game they had in the Champions League against Young Boys and he could continue the match. Manchester City is going to have hard games against teams like Leipzig, Liverpool, Tottenham, and Chelsea and they can't have this player which can make everything harder for Pep Guardiola. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2023%2F11%2F08%2Ft7Pgm.jpeg&t=665&c=N2npijhzi9jM_g)
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November 09, 2023, 02:36:28 AM |
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Erik Ten Hag should be blamed mostly because of the problems they had in the transfer window. They had a goalkeeper like De Gea who had a good performance but Erik Ten Hag wanted to use Onana because they were working with each other in Ajax and we saw this idea was not working in Manchester United also the other players they bought couldn't help the team. I think the only problem in Manchester United was this weak performance in the summer.
I personally also prefer Manchester United to keep De Gea in the transfer market yesterday. Previously, De Gea had even made a new deal with Manchester United even though he had received a salary cut. But then after the initial agreement was made it turned out that Manchester United withdrew the agreement and wanted to cut De Gea's salary again. And this automatically made De Gea leave and not return to this club. But after that it turned out that was his plan. Namely because they were targeting Onana who was wanted by Ten Heg. Then Onana made a bad debut but is now getting better. And now I even think that Manchester United's back line is getting worse. Last season many thought H. Maguire was very bad. But what I see at the moment is that the other defenders are getting worse and Maguire is actually getting better. Now Manchester United is also slumping in the UCL. And I think it's fair for ETH to get the blame. However Manchester United has the players it needs. It's just about how ETH can maximize it and take advantage of every potential that Manchester United players have. And if the squad remains weak. So it's not surprising that now many people underestimate ETH and blame it. Because that's his job.
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November 09, 2023, 02:42:20 AM Last edit: November 13, 2023, 03:43:46 PM by tusandii |
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I was shocked by the outcome of this game because Chelsea's performance has been nothing to write home about or even commend since the beginning of the season. So playing with a squad that hasn't lost a game since the beginning of the season made me lose confidence in their ability to win the game. Most of us were taken aback when Chelsea won this match by four goals to one. I'm not sure, but I doubt Chelsea will be able to maintain this current form for long.
If you watched yesterday match live, maybe you would only be normal when you saw Chelsea performance and would not think was a very strong performance. But I have enough questions to answer all this, which club can survive with only 9 players? Nothing, even it a big club it will definitely lose by a bigger score and that what happened to Tottenham.
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November 09, 2023, 02:54:07 AM |
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The bad news for Manchester City is about center-back John Stones, it seems this player is not in a good situation he can't play for the team for a long time. John Stones got injured in the game they had in the Champions League against Young Boys and he could continue the match.
Manchester City is going to have hard games against teams like Leipzig, Liverpool, Tottenham, and Chelsea and they can't have this player which can make everything harder for Pep Guardiola.
It's not only john stones but manuel akanji has been also reported to face no serious injury but there is still a chance for akanji to play against chelsea. As reported by https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/13003069/john-stones-pep-guardiola-says-man-city-defender-will-be-out-for-a-while-after-injury-in-champions-league-win-over-young-boys#John stones will be out but pep is not tellling the press about exact time needed by john stones to recover from his injury. It's a colossal blow for city caused by john stones was also a very important club. Manchester city will face chelsea in the upcoming game. Pep hopes that all of players are ready to face chelsea. It's caused by winning the match against the blues was very important for the club to remain at the first position of EPL. Beating chelsea meant a tremendous step to go to the EPL trophy. I think that manchester city is still having some good centre back to replace him against chelsea.
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November 09, 2023, 03:26:41 AM |
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Newcastle in the previous two matches managed to beat Manchester United in the EFL Cup with a score of 3-0 and after that, Newcastle managed to beat Arsenal in the Premier League with a score of 1-0 . So ya, I still assume that Newcastle managed to have a good performance at this moment.
Obviously Newcastle United has won many of there matches, however this is the first time I'm seeing Newcastle United this good performance although I'm not disputing the fact that there performance on other season was not good but what I'm trying to say is that this season has been there year of excellent performance. Because with how good in performance Arsenal is I never imagine Newcastle United could win them because there record right from there last season can never be compared with the performance of Newcastle United, so I was surprised with the way Newcastle peak form this season. If you don't know, Newcastle are one of the best sides in the premier league now,they have been excellent since last season.They are aiming to win a trophy this season and with the way they are playing currently,there is no doubt about what they can achieve.They played yesterday in the champions league,and they were beaten by Dortmund because they are the most inform team in their group.I really love what Newcastle have done so far and what they are doing in training everyday. I will wait this season to see where they would end up when the season.Doole If you look at the next match of Newcastle United, I don't think it is going to be wrong to predict that they are going to win the match. The next match is against Bournemouth. And I do not have much doubt about them being able to win this match. But one thing I have doubts about is they not being able to perform consistently. At least in the upcoming few matches. Because they are going to face Chelsea after Bournemouth. And I don't think they will have much problems against Chelsea. And after that, they will face Manchester United, which also should not be a very big problem, in my opinion.
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November 09, 2023, 03:38:38 AM |
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Most players in this Newcastle team aren’t used to the UCL and as we all know the UCL requires not just quality players but experience on the competition and that’s what’s lacking in this young Newcastle squad, against Dortmund they tried to play a good game in both pegs conceding not up to 4 legs in both legs shows the level of improvement in this side, probably they’ll look for a way to progress to the Round of 16 else I think they’ll flourish in the Europa League.
Newcastle is indeed a strong club, but as you said, they are newcomers to the UCL. So, you could say their experience and of course their confidence may be different, not as high. But just to be in the UCL, that's a good thing that they should be able to maintain next season. What's more, the first time they were in the UCL, they were in truly the hell group phase, so it's not surprising that they didn't qualify. The opponents were PSG, Milan and Dortmund who have been in the UCL many times and are very experienced. Try if Newcastle were not in that group, maybe he would have a high chance. So, yes, there is no need to be very disappointed with them. Because they have actually tried optimally, but their opponents are really tough. You are right that Newcastle are unlucky because they have to be in Group F which is filled with clubs who already have much more experience in the UCL. But I was quite surprised when Newcastle was able to beat PSG. Well, in this match Newcastle showed the potential that they can develop in the future. This means they are no less strong than PSG if they are in a strong mental condition. And perhaps Newcastle's real challenge is the players' lack of experience and lack of self-confidence. So you are right that we don't need to be disappointed if Newcastle don't get through the group stage. Because the opponents they face in Group F are really not easy opponents. But the opportunity is still open there, with 2 more matches remaining in the group stage, everything can turn around quickly.
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November 09, 2023, 03:57:29 AM |
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Most players in this Newcastle team aren’t used to the UCL and as we all know the UCL requires not just quality players but experience on the competition and that’s what’s lacking in this young Newcastle squad, against Dortmund they tried to play a good game in both pegs conceding not up to 4 legs in both legs shows the level of improvement in this side, probably they’ll look for a way to progress to the Round of 16 else I think they’ll flourish in the Europa League.
Irrespective of the position Newcastle will finish in the champions league, I will be very proud of them because they performed well above my expectations even as this is their first season in the champions league after many decades, and all players playing currently in the team are just having their first champions league experience. Let us not forget, they won a big team like PSG who have a bunch full of experience in the Champions league and made that group more competitive not to know who will qualify for the next round amongst them. They can still fight for the next round or at worse book a spot in the Europa League after the group stage but it still all depend on their performance in the remaining two matches from now. Suffering 3 consecutive league defeats is a worrisome one for the Newcastle side, but let’s not forget that this side can also keep a long streak of good form and bounce back from these defeats, they have some huge tests against Chelsea in both the league and the EFL Cup, let’s see how far they can go with these tests in the coming week.
Newcastle in the premier league is different from Newcastle in the champions league. They must have lost in their past three matches but that doesn’t change or make me have a different about their performance in the premier league. They will certainly bounce back to continue their good form and the EFL Cup and premier league title is still within their reach for now.
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bayu7adi
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November 09, 2023, 04:12:11 AM |
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But I have enough questions to answer all this, which club can survive with only 9 players? Nothing, even if it's a big club it will definitely lose by a bigger score and that's what happened to Tottenham.
Sept 17, 2020 : PSG win with 9 players newsFebruary 9, 2017 : 9 Players AC Milan defeat Bologna 1-0. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2023%2F11%2F09%2Ft9H8d.jpeg&t=665&c=lVZZMrLJNSWA6A) Football is a game where sometimes luck plays a role, and at times, strategies are crucial. Even with just 9 players, it's not impossible to win, although it's tough to go up against a full 11-player team. What's interesting is that Chelsea also performed better in that match, and Tottenham was too focused on attacking in the final minutes of the second half, neglecting their defense. Big teams , especially top 5 should be cautious of Chelsea... as they gave Arsenal a tough time even though Chelsea's performance hasn't been consistent.
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