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November 09, 2023, 11:06:57 PM
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Ten Hag seems to have really failed to overcome the problems his team has experienced this season. He will probably be sacked instead of getting much time and trust if this season fails to take Manchester United to the last 16 of the Champions League. Manchester United also appear inconsistent in the Premier League and it is increasingly worrying that they will be able to secure a place in the Champions League zone next season.
That's what I see is that Erik Ten Hag is a failure who still can't overcome his problems on all fronts, including defense.
Regarding the dismissal, there is still doubt, will Man United take firm action if Erik Ten Hag fails to qualify for the last 16 of the UCL? Likewise, securing the Champions League zone still seems difficult because Man United often loses in matches where they don't perform well.

During this season Man United has no changes, I can say last season was much better and now much worse.
The main factor is because many players are injured.

All failures on the field should be attributed to Captain Ten Hag. Ten Hag still needs to be able to help his students. He should stop criticizing them and focus on doing his job well. Right before the Copenhagen match in the European Cup, coach Erik Ten Hag criticized the referee team. He never really accepted his responsibility. Every excuse is that it's someone else's fault. He should reflect on himself.
Man United management will continue to keep Ten Hag because, after all, his start at Man United was quite good. And the current situation still does not have a coach excellent enough to solve the mess at Man United. Ten Hag still has time to prove his talent.

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November 09, 2023, 11:36:42 PM
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Chelsea and Manchester United this season have been in their poorest forms, finding it hard to secure a point not to even mention a solid 3 points, these slow pace and inconsistent game scorelines though makes for their difficulty in attaining better positions on the league table, Unlike other big teams who are doing efficiently, it'll be difficult for the former two teams to finish in a good stand this season.
The both teams has gone from bad to worst, they have not win any 4 straight matches back to back, this season has been the worst season for them because irrespective of there poor performance last season we can never compare there last season with what they are playing in this season, losing so many of there matches they had upper chances of winning.

Chelsea and Manchester United has the same pattern and you could hardly predict there match because when you will feel is the time for them to win they showed you the opposite.

You are right that Chelsea and Manchester United can be called unstable teams when we believed they could win when playing at home but the opposite happened it's really hard to predict, I still remember when Chelsea beat Tottenham of course no one thought Chelsea would win moreover Tottenham still holds an unbeaten record but after 2 red cards the situation changed drastically Chelsea took control and scored 4 goals, I never forget this moment and I call it a bookie's trap because previously the odds for Tottenham to win were only @ 2.00 normally it's @1.6 because Tottenham is in a positive trend and playing at home so it doesn't make sense if the odds are high.

In the last 5 matches, Chelsea and Manchester have both recorded 3 wins yeah it's better than last month and if Manchester is eliminated from the Champions League then they can focus more on the Premier League at least hunt for European League tickets lol. Meanwhile, Chelsea will close the season without a target maybe they will focus on team observations.

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November 09, 2023, 11:59:23 PM
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Ten Hag's only option right now, in my opinion, to keep Manchester United's defense solid is to hope that the club doesn't fire him before January when they will need to acquire new defenders to cover their goalposts. Apparently, Onana needs a strong defense that would make it difficult for other teams to score him easily. He is not to accomplish it on his own without the help of Manchester United
I'm not sure if Ten Hag can solve the problem on Man United defense although he will buy new defenders in January transfer window. Ten Hag isn't a typical coach who can choose proper defenders. Many of the the defenders he bought, played underperformance. He also didn't want to sell Maguire even if he knows Maguire is one of the problem in Man United defense. I don't know what Ten Hag thinks to solve Man United problem. He seems have a different view than common managers. Anyway, I assume Man United management also need to evaluate their scouts. Man United scouts look not working very well in the last few years.

Not only strengthen the defenders, Onana also needs to improve his performance and avoid unnecessary mistakes. I think Onana also still didn't play consistently, he probably still adapts with Man United players and tactics. But he must adapt quickly because it will bring big impact for Man United if he fail to adapt well. He must be aware that he is Man United main goalkeeper now.



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November 10, 2023, 03:26:40 AM
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I'm not sure if Ten Hag can solve the problem on Man United defense although he will buy new defenders in January transfer window.
A winter transfer season is not a good one to buy players. Big clubs will not let their best players to move in the winter transfer window so it's nearly impossible to buy best players for a club in this window. Even you can buy a good player, a new player will not have enough time to adapt to a new club, new team mates or even a new league. It is a big difference compares to a summer transfer season because players will have pre-season training to better adapt to a new club.

Cost to buy good player in a winter transfer season usually is more expensive than in the summer too. If it is not like an emergent situation, no need to join the winter transfer.

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Ten Hag isn't a typical coach who can choose proper defenders. Many of the the defenders he bought, played underperformance. He also didn't want to sell Maguire even if he knows Maguire is one of the problem in Man United defense. I don't know what Ten Hag thinks to solve Man United problem. He seems have a different view than common managers. Anyway, I assume Man United management also need to evaluate their scouts. Man United scouts look not working very well in the last few years.
Maguire plays better with his national team and we can take it to reconsider about Manchester United defense system. It is a system that is contributed by many players, from defenders to even midfielders and it's unfair to say Maguire is a root cause of all strength or weakness in their defense system. In the match with Copenhagen, it reveals weakness of their system as their midfielders failed to create enough pressure on Copenhagen players. If Copenhagen players can make better distant shots, they even can create more dangerous situations and find goals too.

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Not only strengthen the defenders, Onana also needs to improve his performance and avoid unnecessary mistakes. I think Onana also still didn't play consistently, he probably still adapts with Man United players and tactics. But he must adapt quickly because it will bring big impact for Man United if he fail to adapt well. He must be aware that he is Man United main goalkeeper now.
Onana has poor debut for Manchester United but again he is only one player in the squad and defense system. Other players must cover Onana better as no goalkeeper can block all shots from opponents.

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November 10, 2023, 03:40:01 AM
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All failures on the field should be attributed to Captain Ten Hag. Ten Hag still needs to be able to help his students. He should stop criticizing them and focus on doing his job well. Right before the Copenhagen match in the European Cup, coach Erik Ten Hag criticized the referee team. He never really accepted his responsibility. Every excuse is that it's someone else's fault. He should reflect on himself.
Man United management will continue to keep Ten Hag because, after all, his start at Man United was quite good. And the current situation still does not have a coach excellent enough to solve the mess at Man United. Ten Hag still has time to prove his talent.
Lol. Please don't say he's the captain, he's a coach.  Cheesy

We know that there are always internal problems at this club, coaches and players are at odds, making it difficult for Erik Ten Hag to give solid direction, as well as Erik Ten Hag with a strict upbringing on players if no one is disciplined then they will be sanctioned, so that may be the cause of their game being hampered, or even from poor stretagi, it could also be from some injured players, so this problem is a bit complex.

About criticizing the referee in the match it is natural because it is full of tension, so whatever the result is it has already happened, and the criticism from Erik Ten Hag maybe he is a little disappointed with the result.

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November 10, 2023, 03:47:32 AM
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Onana has poor debut for Manchester United but again he is only one player in the squad and defense system. Other players must cover Onana better as no goalkeeper can block all shots from opponents.

when Onana and Maguire are played in the squad, it is the best chance for United's opponents to win. Ten Hag had to admit how his current team was very bad. they scored 12 goals, but they conceded 16 times.
I'm sure Ten Hag as a manager knows where his team's weaknesses come from. I don't know what he did to make the fans dissatisfied. on social media, we can see how fans condemn several players, even Ten Hag is not free from fans' blasphemy. they don't just want to see their team win against weak teams. but they want to see how United shows improved play.

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November 10, 2023, 03:51:05 AM
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I'm not sure if Ten Hag can solve the problem on Man United defense although he will buy new defenders in January transfer window. Ten Hag isn't a typical coach who can choose proper defenders. Many of the the defenders he bought, played underperformance. He also didn't want to sell Maguire even if he knows Maguire is one of the problem in Man United defense. I don't know what Ten Hag thinks to solve Man United problem. He seems have a different view than common managers. Anyway, I assume Man United management also need to evaluate their scouts. Man United scouts look not working very well in the last few years.

Not only strengthen the defenders, Onana also needs to improve his performance and avoid unnecessary mistakes. I think Onana also still didn't play consistently, he probably still adapts with Man United players and tactics. But he must adapt quickly because it will bring big impact for Man United if he fail to adapt well. He must be aware that he is Man United main goalkeeper now.
And what is very surprising is that Maguire, who was planning to be sold in the transfer market, has now shown his best performance and is quite helpful for Manchester United's defense line.
all the players that Manchester United is currently recruiting are his wishes, but in fact the players he is recruiting do not fit into his strategic scheme, that is very, very strange.
The problem with the Manchester United team is not only in the defense line, but in all lines, so the team's poor play makes it very easy for opponents to launch attacks on the Manchester United team's defense line.
I don't know how Ten Hag can improve a team that has fallen so badly, and I'm pessimistic that he can do it.

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November 10, 2023, 04:11:27 AM
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Ten Hag's only option right now, in my opinion, to keep Manchester United's defense solid is to hope that the club doesn't fire him before January when they will need to acquire new defenders to cover their goalposts. Apparently, Onana needs a strong defense that would make it difficult for other teams to score him easily. He is not to accomplish it on his own without the help of Manchester United
I'm not sure if Ten Hag can solve the problem on Man United defense although he will buy new defenders in January transfer window. Ten Hag isn't a typical coach who can choose proper defenders. Many of the the defenders he bought, played underperformance. He also didn't want to sell Maguire even if he knows Maguire is one of the problem in Man United defense. I don't know what Ten Hag thinks to solve Man United problem. He seems have a different view than common managers. Anyway, I assume Man United management also need to evaluate their scouts. Man United scouts look not working very well in the last few years.

Not only strengthen the defenders, Onana also needs to improve his performance and avoid unnecessary mistakes. I think Onana also still didn't play consistently, he probably still adapts with Man United players and tactics. But he must adapt quickly because it will bring big impact for Man United if he fail to adapt well. He must be aware that he is Man United main goalkeeper now.




There is always solutions to every problem the defense have seen all of their good defenders put and injured the last game saw another injured and it affected how they played also. Ten Hag needs all the support you can give him to change  the conditions of the club. The club and fans have past glory so they want to pressure until they see the club at the position they have always been in the past. Onana has been trying not enough but has given heart and mind for Man United .
Jim Radcliffe will support him with the basic necessary support to take Man United to the top. Some signings are not meant to play for united.

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November 10, 2023, 04:21:53 AM
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Arsenal have suffered some injury crisis of recent,and it has hampared their performances this season.They are without Odegard,Partey,Timber and Gabriel Jesus.These are players who have important and significant impact on and off the pitch.Partey is the engine room to Arsenal's midfield,and when ever they play without him,it seems that midfield doesn't have a good shape.Last night was one of their best games ever because they showed class through out the game.They are leading in their group with 9 points now.It won't be a surprise if Arsenal get to the final or semi final in this Champions league because they are playing beautiful football that can make them to bigger stages in the competition.

Arsenal's injuries have impact on how they play on the pitch, but it's still not right to say that it's a crisis. among all players who are injured, it's only odegaard the one who has impact to the team. in midfield without Partey, they still have Declan rice, Jorginho, Fábio Vieira, etc. and their front line, they still have strong front line to win games.

Arsenal are still favorite to compete mancity at title race this season, because, other than mancity, they have the most complete squad in the league where they have quality backup players at every position. they only need to maintain their good form throughout the season.
That means you don't really get what I mean,if we are talking about players who have impact on the field,you cannot mention any other name without mentioning Partey.If you aren't an Arsenal fan,you won't know what I'm saying because maybe you don't watch Arsenal games.
Partey is the ingene room to arsenal's midfield,that was why when Partey wanted to leave the club to Juventus,Arteta begged him to stay because he knows that the player is very important to Arsenal,and if he is fit to play with Declan Rice,there is no midfield in England that will be able to stand Arsenal.I am not saying Jorginho is not good,but you can't compare him to Partey in terms of solidity and midfield control.

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November 10, 2023, 04:43:18 AM
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Onana has poor debut for Manchester United but again he is only one player in the squad and defense system. Other players must cover Onana better as no goalkeeper can block all shots from opponents.

when Onana and Maguire are played in the squad, it is the best chance for United's opponents to win. Ten Hag had to admit how his current team was very bad. they scored 12 goals, but they conceded 16 times.
I'm sure Ten Hag as a manager knows where his team's weaknesses come from. I don't know what he did to make the fans dissatisfied. on social media, we can see how fans condemn several players, even Ten Hag is not free from fans' blasphemy. they don't just want to see their team win against weak teams. but they want to see how United shows improved play.

If Ten Hag really want to improve Manchester united in the remaining matches, he should start benching any player that do anyhow in their training or inside the match, so that those forming oldest players in the team will learn their lesson by benching them like two matches for them to know their offence. Based on the way Manchester united coach was preparing his team in this season, many people thoughts that those new players plus goalkeeper will make Manchester united to withstand any team to embrace victory until when the tournament start and Manchester united player begin to struggle with some small teams to defeat at the moment that made people to believed that Manchester united will not end well in this season. Ten Hag made a big mistakes by allowed their formal goalkeeper to leave, because this new keeper Onana doesn't look like someone that will help the team to survive this season.

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November 10, 2023, 04:54:44 AM
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There is always solutions to every problem the defense have seen all of their good defenders put and injured the last game saw another injured and it affected how they played also. Ten Hag needs all the support you can give him to change  the conditions of the club. The club and fans have past glory so they want to pressure until they see the club at the position they have always been in the past. Onana has been trying not enough but has given heart and mind for Man United .
Jim Radcliffe will support him with the basic necessary support to take Man United to the top. Some signings are not meant to play for united.
sure. not only at Man United but other teams that have bad things in several lines still have the opportunity to improve it. on one hand, there is still a very long game time remaining this season and in january the transfer market will reopen which will give Ten Hag and the Chelsea coach the opportunity Pochettino needs to improve his line up to have better performance and the opportunity for january will be the last chance of the season and if he can not take advantage of it well, its possible that Man United and Chelsea will only be the same as they are now.

Indeed, a team needs support from fans but they must give each other their best efforts as fans will always provide support and the team must provide evidence of good improvement because in the EPL the competition is getting closer to the end of the season and the competition becomes more difficult.

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November 10, 2023, 04:59:42 AM
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If Ten Hag really want to improve Manchester united in the remaining matches, he should start benching any player that do anyhow in their training or inside the match, so that those forming oldest players in the team will learn their lesson by benching them like two matches for them to know their offence.
You sounds like Manchester United have other quality players in bench.

In keeper position they have: Onana, Heaton and Bayindir, Heaton only play 3 match in 3 years while Bayindir is a new goalkeeper from Fernebahce which has a difference in terms of competitiveness.

In defender position they have (not injured): Evans, Varane, Maguire, Lindelof, Reguilon, Dalot and Bissaka. Only both Varane and Dalot are good defenders, while the other are forced to play since Ten Hag don't have any option.

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Onana has poor debut for Manchester United but again he is only one player in the squad and defense system. Other players must cover Onana better as no goalkeeper can block all shots from opponents.

when Onana and Maguire are played in the squad, it is the best chance for United's opponents to win. Ten Hag had to admit how his current team was very bad. they scored 12 goals, but they conceded 16 times.
I'm sure Ten Hag as a manager knows where his team's weaknesses come from. I don't know what he did to make the fans dissatisfied. on social media, we can see how fans condemn several players, even Ten Hag is not free from fans' blasphemy. they don't just want to see their team win against weak teams. but they want to see how United shows improved play.
Yes, I admit that the performance of the Manchester United team is very bad at the moment, Manchester United has experienced 9 defeats so far in 17 matches, although there is a lot of pressure from a number of Man Utd fans. However, this does not seem to dampen Ten Hag enthusiasm to continue to improve the performance of his players to continue coaching Manchester United and I heard rumors circulating that if Sir Alex Ferguson, the former Manchester United coach, still supports Ten Hag to continue coaching this club.
Manchester United must do more be patient and enjoy the current process by changing coaches, it seems like it would be the same if Manchester United lacked qualified players because what I see seems to be Ten Hag having difficulty building cooperation with the current players so Manchester Utd continues to experience decline, but I hope Ten Hag moves Hurry to immediately improve the quality of the current players because Ten Hag still has a long time to improve the club performance.
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Chelsea again gained momentum to bounce back, after the momentum was able to hold Arsenal to a draw but failed in the next match, now the momentum came when they managed to beat Tottenham even though the victory was due to the fact that their opponents played with only 9 players which gave Chelsea a big advantage.
Facing Manchester City at Stamford Bridge, Chelsea will again face a quite difficult match, they are not the favorite team even though they are playing at home because the victory over Tottenham cannot be used as a benchmark that Chelsea has improved, it's just that there is an opportunity for them to make a surprise even if it doesn't win the match but being able to get just one point would be a good thing for Chelsea because Manchester City is a very consistent team after the two consecutive defeats they experienced City managed to recover quickly, so even though there is a chance for Chelsea to beat City, it is very small.

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Onana has poor debut for Manchester United but again he is only one player in the squad and defense system. Other players must cover Onana better as no goalkeeper can block all shots from opponents.

when Onana and Maguire are played in the squad, it is the best chance for United's opponents to win. Ten Hag had to admit how his current team was very bad. they scored 12 goals, but they conceded 16 times.
I'm sure Ten Hag as a manager knows where his team's weaknesses come from. I don't know what he did to make the fans dissatisfied. on social media, we can see how fans condemn several players, even Ten Hag is not free from fans' blasphemy. they don't just want to see their team win against weak teams. but they want to see how United shows improved play.
I think that currently, it's not just Onana or Maguire who often make mistakes. Because I see other players are now starting to do the same thing. I think this squad's teamwork has really gotten worse. It's as if they want to be individual players who stand out. In the back line, it's not just Maguire who is getting worse but the others are the same. Maybe it's true that Maguire often makes mistakes, be it because of hand balls or whatever. But I actually saw that another mistake made by Manchester United's defenders was that they were not smart enough in controlling and stopping opposing players. Often opposing players can move freely in areas that should be closely guarded by Manchester United defenders. It's as if the Manchester United players don't know what to do. This squad's attacking line players are also sometimes too selfish. Yes, sometimes they push themselves too hard even in a difficult position. I don't know what ETH did to make it difficult for this squad to build good cooperation. Because individually I know the quality of Manchester United players is very good. But they are currently bad at building cooperation in the Manchester United squad. And whatever the reason, it is natural that Ten Heg will be the one who will be most pressured and criticized. His position could even be threatened if this squad does not improve in the middle of the season.

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November 10, 2023, 08:14:41 AM
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Well looks like this upcoming weekend have a lot of beautiful games to parlay together like Tottenham,Arsenal,Man.Utd and Newcastle which would make a nice odd in general,I doubt any of these teams will lose although I never exclude surprise results from happening in the Premier League,in fact surprise results are the most distinguishing factor for this league,anyway it does not hurt to try and parlay together all these games of the Saturday.

Also on Sunday we can have somewhat some more difficult games that can be parlayed together too but let's see how Saturday ends up and then think about Sunday.

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November 10, 2023, 08:18:14 AM
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Onana has poor debut for Manchester United but again he is only one player in the squad and defense system. Other players must cover Onana better as no goalkeeper can block all shots from opponents.

when Onana and Maguire are played in the squad, it is the best chance for United's opponents to win. Ten Hag had to admit how his current team was very bad. they scored 12 goals, but they conceded 16 times.
I'm sure Ten Hag as a manager knows where his team's weaknesses come from. I don't know what he did to make the fans dissatisfied. on social media, we can see how fans condemn several players, even Ten Hag is not free from fans' blasphemy. they don't just want to see their team win against weak teams. but they want to see how United shows improved play.
It is only natural that some fans criticize and criticize and even do something that should not be done because they see their beloved club at a point where it is very disappointing. Surprisingly, when the players made so many mistakes, Erik Ten Hag still gave a lot of trust to his players. I understand he may not have many options, but he should be able to trust and rotate players more fully. I also know it's not the right time to do that, but with what they're showing at the moment, there's nothing wrong with them trying to do it, even though experimenting also carries a huge risk.

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November 10, 2023, 08:29:29 AM
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Well looks like this upcoming weekend have a lot of beautiful games to parlay together like Tottenham,Arsenal,Man.Utd and Newcastle which would make a nice odd in general,I doubt any of these teams will lose although I never exclude surprise results from happening in the Premier League,in fact surprise results are the most distinguishing factor for this league,anyway it does not hurt to try and parlay together all these games of the Saturday.

Also on Sunday we can have somewhat some more difficult games that can be parlayed together too but let's see how Saturday ends up and then think about Sunday.
The game between Totthenham Hurtspur and Wolves is a game that will be very tough because Totthenham have a lot of injury worries and problems,and according to rumours,Maddison is doubtful for that game due to injury,and it may affect their performances on the pitch.However,I still believe they will have a way of grinding out a win despite the injury and the red card given to one of their player.While the Arsenal game will be a workover for the gunners after their excellent display against Sevilla in champions league group stage.
They still have that energy and mumentum to get a good result and bounce back from the defeat they had in premier league against Newcastle.

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November 10, 2023, 08:32:40 AM
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Well looks like this upcoming weekend have a lot of beautiful games to parlay together like Tottenham,Arsenal,Man.Utd and Newcastle which would make a nice odd in general,I doubt any of these teams will lose although I never exclude surprise results from happening in the Premier League,in fact surprise results are the most distinguishing factor for this league,anyway it does not hurt to try and parlay together all these games of the Saturday.

Also on Sunday we can have somewhat some more difficult games that can be parlayed together too but let's see how Saturday ends up and then think about Sunday.
The game between Totthenham Hurtspur and Wolves is a game that will be very tough because Totthenham have a lot of injury worries and problems,and according to rumours,Maddison is doubtful for that game due to injury,and it may affect their performances on the pitch.However,I still believe they will have a way of grinding out a win despite the injury and the red card given to one of their player.While the Arsenal game will be a workover for the gunners after their excellent display against Sevilla in champions league group stage.
They still have that energy and mumentum to get a good result and bounce back from the defeat they had in premier league against Newcastle.

I also think that out of these 4 games Tottenham is the most difficult one and the odd should be near 2 for them because of that horrible display in front of their home fans this last Monday against Chelsea.It needs a really huge psychological motivation to come back with a strong win after such defeat yet the team they are playing against is not one of the strongest and they were also not able to win against one of the bottom standings team last week so overall there should be no really big problems getting a win for Tottenham.

Arsenal impressed everyone on this midweek game as they totally dominated the game despite only scoring 2 goals.

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November 10, 2023, 08:33:35 AM
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Yes, I admit that the performance of the Manchester United team is very bad at the moment, Manchester United has experienced 9 defeats so far in 17 matches, although there is a lot of pressure from a number of Man Utd fans. However, this does not seem to dampen Ten Hag enthusiasm to continue to improve the performance of his players to continue coaching Manchester United and I heard rumors circulating that if Sir Alex Ferguson, the former Manchester United coach, still supports Ten Hag to continue coaching this club.
But if I may ask do you think Manchester United still have the chance to peak form this season?,  because what I'm seeing in this season concerning there performance is not encouraging at all, there losing is even more higher than there winnings, I could remember those days when they are in a good form and they always maintain first or second position on the premier League table every season do to there good performance.

Well Manchester United should just try and think things through to know were there failure is coming from and how to improve on that area to enable them come back to the next season with a good performance.

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