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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 90 (46.4%)
Liverpool - 32 (16.5%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.1%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.6%)
Manchester United - 14 (7.2%)
Totenham - 7 (3.6%)
Newcastle - 2 (1%)
Other - 3 (1.5%)
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January 05, 2024, 07:53:04 PM

Last season Chelsea had 29 points after 20 games and this season they have 28 points after 20 games. The worst part about this is that nothing, absolutely nothing changed and they even got 1 point less. All the things they have done, the hundreds of millions invested and the changes in the coaching position, nothing helped them to get out of that hole. It is getting worse.

I think it will take a long time for Chelsea to rebuild their squad. This can start by bringing in a coach who is ready to build a team in the long term and also hundreds of millions of money to bring in several players that the coach wants. What is happening at Chelsea right now is really bad and I think they have to build their team from scratch. They cannot expect a miracle like next season they will be able to finish in the top four or top five. They must really focus on long-term targets.

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January 05, 2024, 07:55:26 PM

Manchester is a team that are in big problems, they have been in big problems for a very long time now and I am now thinking it's more than coaching problem. Manchester United may also have some internal problems from the owners and this can cause a drop in form as we have seen .
I think a lot of improvement needs to be made and it starts now. Manchester United can't continue going to every season with this problem, they have lost the pedigree of a big team and this has affected their mentality.

Manchester United's performance has been poor for the past few seasons. And the management has changed coaches several times to no avail. Manchester United's current coach Erik Ten Hag cannot be called inexperienced. Even then I would say he has completely failed to stabilize the United team. Manchester United probably need a more experienced coach. United management may consider Mourinho to coach United. Moreover, if an experienced coach like Zidane takes over United's responsibility, Manchester United may become a strong team again. However, the Manchester United team is not benefiting from keeping Ten Hag as a coach.

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January 05, 2024, 08:03:24 PM

Manchester United's performances have been erratic but they have a strong squad. And if the players in the squad are confident and play well, Manchester United have the ability to win against any team.

Manchester United's performance in home matches is comparatively better. Manchester United have achieved 18 points in 10 home matches and 13 points in 10 away matches. Manchester United will play at home against Tottenham in the next match. With United performing the way they are now, their chances of winning against Tottenham are slim. Even then I wouldn't bet on this match, because Manchester United can surprise everyone and win at any time.

It's true that United's performance has really declined, especially compared to last season. however, this situation did not just happen, it suddenly hit The Red Devil. Man United's appearance is uncertain, because they have problems both within the camp and externally. and what really affected it was that United was hit by a storm of injured players. in the end, this team seemed to have lost direction in terms of the rhythm of their game. moreover, Casemiro is usually the player who motivates his teammates' mentality more. since he suffered an injury, Erik Ten Hag's squad became even more chaotic. and not only in terms of self-confidence, but in fact every player must prioritize teamwork, especially in the midfield and front line. apart from that, the absence of mainstay player Ten Hag in defense adds to United's problems.

Well, I'm trying to find some information regarding injured United players. some reports, if Lisando Martines, Mason Mount, Malacia, Casemiro, have the same schedule they will rejoin on January 15th. at least, Ten Hag has another option with the recovery of several injured players. and if in the end the United players recover from their injuries, I am sure Ten Hag can return his squad to normal. I mean, they could potentially be back on track.
Talking about the match against Tottenham which will be held on January 14, Ten Hag can actually maximize his squad, especially in the title match at Old Trafford. at least by having a break, Ten Hag made good use of it to evaluate his squad. and based on temporary odds, United is more favored by the betting market. theoretically, that means United has a chance to overthrow Spurs. so, to be sure, let's just wait first. in fact, we can watch United play their match in the FA Cup first.

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January 05, 2024, 08:07:34 PM

Boehly isn't good at doing his work in my opinion. This team deserve a much better owner such as Abramovich. You know how Abramovich's times were. Chelsea were in much better condition than this.
Todd Boehly doesn't know so much about football, he is just signing players left, right and center, their transfer policy under Todd Boehly is somewhat flawed. Having said that, all the problems Chelsea has isn't the fault of the owner Todd, the players and manager are also culpable, quite a lot of these players were bought with a lot of money and their salaries are also pretty high; thus they ought to deliver more for the club than they are doing now. Chelsea are in a transition period, and the fans must understand that it will take sometime before they get back to their previous elite levels.

Todd Boehly is a good investor and good businessman with lots of money in his pocket but he is not a person with any knowledge about football or football management and we saw that in Chelsea when he made wrong decisions over and over. Todd Boehly spent a lot of money for Chelsea and he tried to improve the team but it seems he got the tool for improvement but he had no idea about how to use this tool to get the team improved.
In fact, the bad days for Chelsea started when Todd Boehly started his business there and before Todd Boehly they had a much better situation.


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January 05, 2024, 08:08:08 PM

Manchester is a team that are in big problems, they have been in big problems for a very long time now and I am now thinking it's more than coaching problem. Manchester United may also have some internal problems from the owners and this can cause a drop in form as we have seen .
I think a lot of improvement needs to be made and it starts now. Manchester United can't continue going to every season with this problem, they have lost the pedigree of a big team and this has affected their mentality.

Manchester United's performance has been poor for the past few seasons. And the management has changed coaches several times to no avail. Manchester United's current coach Erik Ten Hag cannot be called inexperienced. Even then I would say he has completely failed to stabilize the United team. Manchester United probably need a more experienced coach. United management may consider Mourinho to coach United. Moreover, if an experienced coach like Zidane takes over United's responsibility, Manchester United may become a strong team again. However, the Manchester United team is not benefiting from keeping Ten Hag as a coach.

Not only are they not benefiting but they are also damaging themselves by keeping Ten Haag as a coach.I am not saying he is a bad coach but at Manchester unless they are planning on keeping him as long as Sir Fergusson they should definitely fire him as a coach as they risk big with him.He did not well in a group stage with weak teams in Champions League,he is not doing well in the Premier League either and things are definitely not looking good for the remaining part of the season if Manchester keeps playing they way they have done so far.I would call a wise move if the management of United change the coach at these moments.

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January 05, 2024, 08:09:06 PM

Manchester is a team that are in big problems, they have been in big problems for a very long time now and I am now thinking it's more than coaching problem. Manchester United may also have some internal problems from the owners and this can cause a drop in form as we have seen .
I think a lot of improvement needs to be made and it starts now. Manchester United can't continue going to every season with this problem, they have lost the pedigree of a big team and this has affected their mentality.

I agree with you on this firstly as a Manchester United fan and secondly as someone who has been a lover of football. There are some many issues going on in the Manchester United team which is yet to be revealed but it's crystal clear to us now because first the club was to be sold out all of a sudden the news stopped popping up again because the current owners refuse to accept the offer that was made, secondly I think United coach Erik Ten hag is having some internal issues with his players wevsaw what happened between him and CR7, Jodan Sancho, Harry Maguire and others, that alone can affect the performance of the team because the players won't be playing with good heart since the coach is not good terms with some of their team mates.

For a change to take effect in the team there should be introduction of some new players and the team should let go of some players which are no longer contributing something good to the growth of the team. Manchester United has lost the old glory the team is not longer feared by the other teams because they have always been in poor form I think they only solution is either to change the coach or change most of the players.

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January 05, 2024, 08:09:51 PM

Manchester is a team that are in big problems, they have been in big problems for a very long time now and I am now thinking it's more than coaching problem. Manchester United may also have some internal problems from the owners and this can cause a drop in form as we have seen .
I think a lot of improvement needs to be made and it starts now. Manchester United can't continue going to every season with this problem, they have lost the pedigree of a big team and this has affected their mentality.
I'm not trying to doubt you than there are no internal crises at Manchester United which have resulted to the club's poor performance since the start of the season but I must categorically say that Manchester United's current poor form is majorly caused by the managerial inabilities of Erik ten Hag. He is currently clueless on what to do to restore the club back to where they belong and if the club's management do not sack and replace him anytime soon, I wouldn't be surprised to see them finish at the bottom half of the English Premier League table.

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I think it will take a long time for Chelsea to rebuild their squad. This can start by bringing in a coach who is ready to build a team in the long term and also hundreds of millions of money to bring in several players that the coach wants. What is happening at Chelsea right now is really bad and I think they have to build their team from scratch. They cannot expect a miracle like next season they will be able to finish in the top four or top five. They must really focus on long-term targets.
Chelsea football team was really messed up after Abramovich was forced to sell the club to new bidders and the new owners couldn't maintain the top level it was until now. I've watch Chelsea crumbled all these years and they're keeping all hope alive and I don't think they would be able to make stellar performance this season. I'm tired of hearing Chelsea building their club, I'm not seeing any progress at the current scenario.  Chelsea coach, Mauricio Pochettino is making plans to set up his team to become formidable but it will take lengthy time.

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I’m looking at how Tottenham will fare in the absence of Son when they host Manchester United next weekend. I haven’t seen any Tottenham game without Son because he’s always been present for them and he’s a top player who turns up in almost every game for them.

Since Kane moved to Bayern Munich, Son has started to become a goal machine and a mainstay for Tottenham in the front line at this time, Son absence is certainly quite painful for Tottenham considering that currently they are trying to climb to the top standing and apart from Son, Tottenham also lost Pape Sarr who They also have to play for Senegal in the 2024 African Cup, Losing two mainstays will of course make Tottenham performance quite lame especially when they have to face Manchester United later, but before that Tottenham have to face Burnley who are relatively weaker in the FA Cup and this could be an opportunity for Ange Postecoglou to formulate an effective strategy without the two main players before facing Manchester United.

Losing these key players now would be enough for Manchester United to win at Old Trafford when they meet next week Sunday.  Son leading the attack and Sarr a very important player for the midfielder's in Tottenham Hotspur.

Meanwhile, Manchester United have seen almost all of their Injured players back from Injury as theyss be preparing for the Fa Cup Competition fixtures before that of the Premier League. They could find their way back to the top of the league since they're not involved in any major European Competitions again.

Against Burnley, Tottenham Hotspur should emerged from winners and move to the next round!

To be honest, I think they will be okay against Burnley. As for Manchester United, I think they will be okay as well but I am not as sure as the Burnley match. It sucks for the clubs and players to leave their club duty behind to play for the national team. I think the Premier League and other clubs should do something about this.

Richarlison is doing fine these days. So I think he can compensate for something in the matches Son won’t be playing. But to be honest I am scared for them. The FA Cup is a playoff match and losing would mean you are eliminated. I don’t want that to happen. Since Kane left Spurs, there is not really a reliable source of attack for them other than Son.

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Which recovery phase?, If you see a team that is playing for performance improvement you would know, Manchester United is very far away from playing to recover. Last season's performance that gave them the opportunity to qualify for the Champions League competition is even much better than their performance this very season. With Erik ten Hag as still the Man Utd's head coach, nothing would change even now or in the future.

This is a very bold statement which I don’t agree with. From your statement that last season’s performance weren’t bad so that means Ten Hag and his team has a thing in their sleeves. If we analyze it properly all Manchester United appointed mangers have actually have a very poor second season at the club after a very good first one. This means that the problem isn’t entirely base on the manager alone but also the club hierarchy too. They have failed to support each manager with the signings that they require and this can actually affect the manager plans.

With the injuries surrounding this team currently I will trust Ten Hag till at least the end of the season. If he can actually get them a trophy in his first season and qualify them to the champions league them I will say he can actually make them bounce back again

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I agree with you that Liverpool will play their possible best to make sure that they win Newcastle in this match for them to be on top of the table. However, it wouldn't be an easy match because we should not underestimate Newcastle afyer they lost their last match Luton. Newcastle might decide not to accept defeat because it will affect their position on the table but I know that if worst cone to worst it might be a draw game. I don't think that Liverpool will love the game to end up in a draw because they will be out to win all three points to themselves to put them on a better side of other clubs competing for the trophy this season.

Liverpool got a good moment this week after the main competitor was defeated in 2 consecutive matches if Liverpool do not make the same mistakes then they are 3 points in front of the competitor therefore I do not hesitate Liverpool will win this match especially Newcastle is not confident in their last defeat so Liverpool have a great chance to win. This month Liverpool have a new competitor, Manchester City will take over Arsenal's position as Liverpool's competitor, competing with Manchester City is certainly more difficult than Arsenal then Liverpool must be able to take advantage of every opportunity.

It's not just because of Liverpool getting good results in the premier league, but I think the main reason for Liverpool to be at the top of the league is mostly because of the other teams having weak performances.
For example, Manchester City is far from the good form we saw from them in the past and Liverpool is using this chance, even the other teams like Arsenal are not in the good form and I don't know why but they are not in a good mental situation.

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Manchester is a team that are in big problems, they have been in big problems for a very long time now and I am now thinking it's more than coaching problem. Manchester United may also have some internal problems from the owners and this can cause a drop in form as we have seen .
I think a lot of improvement needs to be made and it starts now. Manchester United can't continue going to every season with this problem, they have lost the pedigree of a big team and this has affected their mentality.

Serious problems and misunderstandings between the higher management and the players started just after the arrival of the new coach, there is no point in denying that. And I doubt that the owners have serious problems with anything, the only one is that they can't remove Ten Hag for some reason.

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Manchester is a team that are in big problems, they have been in big problems for a very long time now and I am now thinking it's more than coaching problem. Manchester United may also have some internal problems from the owners and this can cause a drop in form as we have seen .
I think a lot of improvement needs to be made and it starts now. Manchester United can't continue going to every season with this problem, they have lost the pedigree of a big team and this has affected their mentality.

United have become a breeding ground for talent long before this season and there has been no talk of any champion mentality for a long time. Maybe it’s just time to come to terms with the fact that others have taken its place and now in order to even just return to the top 4 (stable and not randomly like last season) infrastructure changes are required (the need for which, by the way, Ronaldo spoke about in his famous interview). United has partially changed its owner, maybe we will see some serious changes, but I think they will happen by the summer.

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Last season Chelsea had 29 points after 20 games and this season they have 28 points after 20 games. The worst part about this is that nothing, absolutely nothing changed and they even got 1 point less. All the things they have done, the hundreds of millions invested and the changes in the coaching position, nothing helped them to get out of that hole. It is getting worse.

I think it will take a long time for Chelsea to rebuild their squad. This can start by bringing in a coach who is ready to build a team in the long term and also hundreds of millions of money to bring in several players that the coach wants. What is happening at Chelsea right now is really bad and I think they have to build their team from scratch. They cannot expect a miracle like next season they will be able to finish in the top four or top five. They must really focus on long-term targets.

No it is not the solution what you are talking about. What you are saying is exactly what they have been doing for a few years now. They need a capable coach who understands the potential of every single player they have at the moment and then he needs to figure out which players available in the market would represent smart additions to the existing squad. So far Chelsea has bought everything and everyone they could get and it led them nowhere. Pochettino was the next big fail, but I couldn't care less. It seems there are people who think Pochettino is a world class coach.

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I understand that lately Manchester United often suffered defeat but the defeat when playing away while when playing at home they can be relied upon that's why I say sometimes Manchester United can surprise to away team, I still remember how Manchester United made a comeback against Aston Villa no one thought when they were 2 goals behind but in the end Manchester won 3-2 and we know that Tottenham is at the same level as Aston Villa so there is a chance for Manchester United to repeat it again. My prediction is not only based on feeling but also based on the betting market because until now Manchester is still favored by the market.

Manchester United's performances have been erratic but they have a strong squad. And if the players in the squad are confident and play well, Manchester United have the ability to win against any team.

Manchester United's performance in home matches is comparatively better. Manchester United have achieved 18 points in 10 home matches and 13 points in 10 away matches. Manchester United will play at home against Tottenham in the next match. With United performing the way they are now, their chances of winning against Tottenham are slim. Even then I wouldn't bet on this match, because Manchester United can surprise everyone and win at any time.
Every time they play, they are unpredictable, sometimes playing a good game, sometimes they are not reliable at all. I personally would strongly avoid betting on when they play, yes at least that's for now when their performance is not predictable at all. Many times when I bet on multibet they always fail me, either because they win, or because they lose.
I miss the Manchester United of old during their golden days, especially when Ferguson was still their coach. I wonder if their golden age will be repeated or not, even if it will be repeated it seems like it will take a very long time to see them become a scary club in the Premier League or in Europe.
I agree with you, it will take several seasons for Man United to appear impressive again and repeat its glory like the Ferguson era. However, there are many things that must be addressed by club officials in the future, starting from managing academy players, recruiting coaches who are in line with club culture, and of course recruiting new players who are not haphazard.

We can see now that almost all of United new recruits at exorbitant prices have minimal contribution, and key players who have played for The Red Devils for several seasons also appear far from standard, although not all of them are like that. So it is very reasonable that now most people avoid betting on their winnings because it is not very convincing at all.

It is very likely that The Red Devils will end the season without any trophies, and what will hurt most is failing to finish in the UCL zone at the end of the season. However, in terms of a decline in performance, United was fortunate that they were not alone, Chelsea, who also has status as an elite EPL club, also experienced the same thing, even Pochettino squad had an even more tragic fate.

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I agree with you, it will take several seasons for Man United to appear impressive again and repeat its glory like the Ferguson era. However, there are many things that must be addressed by club officials in the future, starting from managing academy players, recruiting coaches who are in line with club culture, and of course recruiting new players who are not haphazard.

We can see now that almost all of United new recruits at exorbitant prices have minimal contribution, and key players who have played for The Red Devils for several seasons also appear far from standard, although not all of them are like that. So it is very reasonable that now most people avoid betting on their winnings because it is not very convincing at all.

It is very likely that The Red Devils will end the season without any trophies, and what will hurt most is failing to finish in the UCL zone at the end of the season. However, in terms of a decline in performance, United was fortunate that they were not alone, Chelsea, who also has status as an elite EPL club, also experienced the same thing, even Pochettino squad had an even more tragic fate.
During the two seasons Manchester United was coached by Erik Ten Hag, there were no significant changes, but in his first season, Erik succeeded in bringing Manchester United to finish in 3rd place in the standings and qualify for the Champions League. But in his second season, Erik Ten Hag was unable to maintain Manchester United performance because until week 20, or to be precise, they had played 20 matches but they were still stuck in 8th place in the standings. I think Erik Ten Hag is not a coach who will be able to bring Manchester United to success like the Ferguson era. He often makes trouble with his players, such as his incident with Ronaldo and Sancho. so that the coach incompatibility with the players will make it quite difficult to see that they can achieve their targets.

Not only that is a big problem but also the recruitment made by Erik Ten Hag is also not able to shine well under his coaching. This season it is possible that Manchester United will finish outside the top 4 which will most likely have a bad impact on Erik coaching career because he could be fired again if that is the reason management writes a letter of dismissal to Erik Ten Hag.

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January 05, 2024, 09:25:04 PM

Manchester is a team that are in big problems, they have been in big problems for a very long time now and I am now thinking it's more than coaching problem. Manchester United may also have some internal problems from the owners and this can cause a drop in form as we have seen .
I think a lot of improvement needs to be made and it starts now. Manchester United can't continue going to every season with this problem, they have lost the pedigree of a big team and this has affected their mentality.

United have become a breeding ground for talent long before this season and there has been no talk of any champion mentality for a long time. Maybe it’s just time to come to terms with the fact that others have taken its place and now in order to even just return to the top 4 (stable and not randomly like last season) infrastructure changes are required (the need for which, by the way, Ronaldo spoke about in his famous interview). United has partially changed its owner, maybe we will see some serious changes, but I think they will happen by the summer.
It is unfortunate that Manchester United has become the talk in football and not only this season but from like several seasons after Alex Faguson left the club. The coach that would have taken Manchester United higher is José Mourinho. But he was neglected because the expectations of the management and Manchester United fans were very high, such that his achievements of winning the Europa League and ending 2nd in the English premier League was nothing to Manchester United.
Today, no coach has ever beat his record and the big Manchester United we used to know is now struggling to restore their lost glory which is not as easy as they are approaching it.
Manchester United and her fans needs to realise and understand that Manchester United is no longer the excellent club we used to know and used to be proud of those days. Things have changed and they need to realign. Let's see the impact of the change in management can cause.

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I don't think the game will end in a draw because neither team plays at the same level. I understand that Manchester United takes tough opponents seriously, but in this particular match, I don't think Manchester United can defeat Tottenham. Keep in mind that we are talking about a team that is playing well, and based on their previous performances, we will know that they are in good enough shape to defeat Manchester United. Tottenham's struggles when some of their best players are injured are the reason they are still in fifth place in the league table; however, since some of them have returned, the team's performance has improved.

Manchester United's performance shows no signs of being able to defeat Tottenham. After losing to a small team in their most recent match, we are now believing that Manchester United can play and defeat Tottenham. However, we must also keep in mind that Tottenham has a strong striker in Richarlison, who can score goals and even humiliate Onanna. I believe Richarlison can score against Manchester United as well.
Tottenham vs Manchester United is one big match to be on the look out for especially this season based on both teams rankings. Well I don’t think Manchester United with their current squad will be able to match this Tottenham side. Yes, this Tottenham side could be struggling but I think they’re better off Manchester United because they’ve a serious chase at heart, the Top 4 spot.

 Not like Man United isn’t serious but I think they’re mot ready to get anywhere this season, they win some and loose more and that’s one reason Tottenham will come hurting them in this fixture. Richarlison is one hungry striker who’s ready to make his mark and his name and with United shaky defense, I don’t think they stand any chance against this sweet Tottenham’s attack, well their only hope would be if Lisandro  Martinez would be fit for the match since he's back in training.
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January 05, 2024, 09:32:11 PM

Manchester is a team that are in big problems, they have been in big problems for a very long time now and I am now thinking it's more than coaching problem. Manchester United may also have some internal problems from the owners and this can cause a drop in form as we have seen .
I think a lot of improvement needs to be made and it starts now. Manchester United can't continue going to every season with this problem, they have lost the pedigree of a big team and this has affected their mentality.
Even if what you say is true but after the SAF era which was almost a decade ago ended, Manchester United have always had problems with performance and at the moment there are some situations that are difficult to explain about management but I think for the current coaching problem is also a big problem for them.
Ten Hag is one of the coaches who is still fairly good actually it's just that the problem is that he is too authoritarian in coaching which makes the players uncomfortable. In addition, there are some things that happen in management, especially about the transfer of power of the Glazer Family, which is still hampered, making the pace of Manhchester United also disturbed in this regard.
It is difficult indeed to make a difference in conditions like this because after all they have to improve structural management from above and in this case of course from ownership whose problems must be resolved immediately.

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January 05, 2024, 09:51:36 PM

Which recovery phase?, If you see a team that is playing for performance improvement you would know, Manchester United is very far away from playing to recover. Last season's performance that gave them the opportunity to qualify for the Champions League competition is even much better than their performance this very season. With Erik ten Hag as still the Man Utd's head coach, nothing would change even now or in the future.

This is a very bold statement which I don’t agree with. From your statement that last season’s performance weren’t bad so that means Ten Hag and his team has a thing in their sleeves. If we analyze it properly all Manchester United appointed mangers have actually have a very poor second season at the club after a very good first one. This means that the problem isn’t entirely base on the manager alone but also the club hierarchy too. They have failed to support each manager with the signings that they require and this can actually affect the manager plans.

With the injuries surrounding this team currently I will trust Ten Hag till at least the end of the season. If he can actually get them a trophy in his first season and qualify them to the champions league them I will say he can actually make them bounce back again
Let's be Frank, Ten Hag is just too overhyped aside Jose Mourinho and Van Gaal I can't remember any top tier coach United has signed since Fergusen left, just overhyped coach who fails to meet team expectations though Mourinho was better than the other.
Which player did Ten Hag requested for that He didn't get or try to get for him?
Who requested for Onana, Mount, Rasmund and others.

Last season He had issues with Ronaldo, this season Sancho next season we don't know
Aside from injury crisis in which they also struggle to win even when they are fit Ten Hag has no excuse.

The fact is Ten Hag should know his place and let go of some pride so that he will be respected by team while the players needs to have their trophy winning mentality which they have lost for over a decade now, I don't really think Ten Hag can help in this area but Man United can give a shot and see how the perform next season.

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