Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ?

[montaga]

And just like that it is no longer approved.
https://forum.demed.com/COVID/posts/8QFjH1E9SG2wyvBxlZ0x

3 months before Covid existed the U.S. Department of Defense issued a contract for ‘COVID-19 Research’ in Ukraine.
https://youtu.be/AzmBEELz_E8

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[BADecker]

The question now is, why are more and more government leaders admitting that they were wrong about Covid and the vaxx? And the deeper question is, why are they not resigning in disgrace for all the people they promoted the death of through use of the vaxx? And the deepest question is, why are they not being prosecuted for, at least, manslaughter, and being sent to prison?

Canadian Politician APOLOGIZES To Unvaccinated & Offers Them Jobs - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbWHU-9opIs.


Top Canadian politician apologizes to unvaccinated, “we were wrong…” she makes unprecedented promise…


https://www.revolver.news/2023/06/top-canadian-politician-apologizes-to-unvaccinated-we-were-wrong-she-makes-unprecedented-promise/
Danielle Smith, the current premier of Alberta in Canada, has done something remarkable. She took the bold and unprecedented step of apologizing to unvaccinated Canadians who've faced unfair treatment from the government throughout the "pandemic." But Ms. Smith actually went beyond just issuing an apology, Danielle actually made a promise: anyone who was terminated from their job due to their refusal of the COVID-19 vaccine will be reinstated.

Wow. That's not the type of humility you hear from politicians everyday, is it?

Comedian and conservative podcaster Jimmy Dore was actually blown away by this apology and covered it at length.
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[tvbcof]

Yesterday:  RNA can never integrate with DNA.  Impossible.

Nice strawman. It's been known for decades that endogenous retroviruses exist, and indeed, up to 7 or 8% of the entire human genome is derived from virus RNA or DNA. The argument has always been that the vaccine does not cause reverse transcription and integration, and indeed the study you are quoting only shows that integration can happen with COVID infection, not vaccination.

So if you don't want COVID integration in to your DNA, time to get vaccinated.

It's funny, how they switch between these 'alternative' views on COVID:
1) Just a flu, your immune system can kill it easy peasy - vaccine contains chips and / or modifies your genome and is not needed to kill the virus.
2) COVID = incredibly high-tech engineered bio-weapon, super dangerous stuff, they want to kill us.

The spike protein genetics package has been worked on within the bowels of the 'defence' industry (and much of the elements of the work contracted out) for many years.

Typical for genetics work, once the genetic packages are worked out, pretty much any old carrier can be used to transmit it around.  It would be counter-productive if the carrier (coronavirus, chimp adenovirus, etc) were a big deal.

In the 2020 cornavirus case, the infection was inconsequential and I've seen no credible information one way or another on it's reverse transcription rate.  (Such studies will end careers unless they are doctored to align with the appropriate result.)  It simply offered an excuse to jab people with the real bio-weapon which was the LNP goodie.  That can be seen plain-as-day in the all-cause mortality figures from around the world.

Hundreds of millions of years worth of evolution have created a situation where the body can and does deal effectively with natural viral genetic contamination so the low (if any) death problems associated with the so-called 'covid-19 disease' have been noted.  Numbers were normal for standard influenza.  The excess deaths following deployment of the 'vaccine' bio-weapon, on the other hand, are notable, and that's not even counting the destroyed health instances where the victim has yet to die.

And on vaccines:
1) Just get COVID, it's much safer and more natural way to get immunity and vaccine doesn't even give good immunity.
2) Vaccination kills healthy people by the millions, never ever get the vaccination, they use it for population control and suppression of the population.

Agreed.  And practiced although I have no idea whether I got infected or not.  My estimate is that most people did get infected (within the first quarter or so of the release) and it was so mild for normal people that they didn't even know they had it.  Re-infection seems to be limited mainly to those who became booster-junkies.

On sources:
1) These doctors are all corrupt and brainwashed by the education system; education = scam; we are way better researchers by reading random blogs on the internet all day
2) Look!! This one doctor agrees with us and disagrees with 99.99% of doctors worldwide, but he is clearly qualified to make such claims since he's a doctor! He must be right!
3) (what I call the 'epic fail') This source proves my point... ^{It does not, and shows e.g. that vaccine > infection} => this is what happened with the 'gene integration' topic as you explained..

I only pay much attention to people who will talk science and debate other scientists when there is a disagreement about the science.

Most vax-pushers remain anonymous and are referred to as 'experts' by the corporate media.  The few that do not (e.g., that nasty little twat with the bow-tie) run from real scientists like McCullough, as though their life depended on it.

The standard excuse for the pro-vax cowardice is that 'debates are done through papers'.  One thing I did learn since 2020 is how utterly corrupt the formerly 'respected medical journals' actually are.  They quietly retract embarrassing content by the corporate pay-roll shill 'scientist' when the 'science' they produce is to embarrassingly wrong, and on the other side refuse to even evaluate studies indicating things which their owners clearly won't like to be seen.

[Hewlet]

I have heard a lot of opinions ... many are pro vaccine but also many are against it ...
And some don't even believe there is a real vaccine ... What about you ?

my spirit hasn't accepted the vaccine even from the onset coupled with the fact that they are even making it compulsory for people to take it before you are accepted into a major organization.

I mean, if they made it necessary at the point when COVID was popular and was considered a serious problem, it wouldn't be of serious concern to me but when it comes to forcing people to take a vaccine that you don't even here any rumor of people getting infected, it makes me believe that they have something fishy about the vaccine that they are not telling us.

[montaga]

Sad reality
https://twitter.com/karma44921039/status/1731265827565875423

There Never Was a “New Corona Virus”, There Never Was a Pandemic
https://michelchossudovsky.substack.com/p/never-new-virus-never-pandemic

[BADecker]

We need people to be taking this to court right now for violation of the Constitution and Amendments.


Full-scale medical martial law coming to America in 2024


https://www.naturalnews.com/2023-12-03-full-scale-martial-law-coming-america-2024.html
It has been nearly three years since Operation Warp Speed delivered Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) "vaccines" to the world, and more people than perhaps ever before are sicker than they have ever been. As the situation worsens, the government is readying to unleash full-scale medical martial law on America, likely at some point next year.

Sources are reporting that upwards of 50 percent of people who got jabbed for COVID were sickened by the shots – or are still sick with no end in sight. Eight out of 10 jab recipients, especially including those who got at least one "booster" shot in addition to the primary series, are suffering complications that could end up disabling them.

According to Dr. Peter McCullough, every single person who got even just one COVID jab is now experiencing some kind of problem or series of problems related to the heart – whether they realize it or not. Those who do realize it often discovered it by surprise when they suffered an unexpected cardiac arrest or inflammatory reaction like myocarditis.

As time goes on and the bodies of the fully vaccinated degrade even further, there will likely come a point when a critical mass of sick people creates enough of a public health scare that the infamous "quarantine camps" are opened and filled with the "sick."

New York is said to have its quarantine camps ready and waiting for the political green light to start loading up the boxcars, so to speak, and delivering prisoners to their bunks. Other states are reportedly doing the same, often quietly.

(Related: President Biden has been dropping hints that a second round of medical martial law is coming soon to the United States.)

DeSantis' "no vax" bill for Florida a Trojan Horse: it's actually a forced vax bill

Believe it or not, Florida under Gov. Ron DeSantis is another state where residents face the same forced quarantine situation that New Yorkers do under Gov. Kathy Hochul. DeSantis is a Republican and Hochul is a Democrat, demonstrating once again that tyranny is a bipartisan effort in America.
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[Mate2237]

I don't trust the COVID 19 vaccine. At first an African country produced a vaccine for the virus and people tested it and confirmed that it was good but American businessmen condemned it and they produced their and sent to to all the countries in Africa and others and everyone was compelled to confirm the vaccine to be good when we know that is African native method was the best. When they were given the vaccine free in my locality but I didn't take it because I didn't trust the vaccine.

The virus was created to suffer humanity and to make money and they have achieved their goal so the virus die down on it own.

[Hispo]

Beyond the mistrust people nowadays can have against vaccination, I would not mind if people chose not to get vaccined, but then I take a look at how previously eradicated illnesses like Polio seems to start to reappear in the United States because people have chosen not to get vaccined against it, just by providing an example.

Also, I do not understand much of the logic from not getting vaccinated if most of us were already vaccinated when we were kids or babies. In the case of my country, babies are vaccinated as soon as they can against yellow fever. I am sure it is the same there in The Unidated States and Europe.

Ironically, vaccines could have already saved the life of thousands of anti-vaccine people, just because they were immunized when they were toddlers, thanks to the love and care of their parents.

[tvbcof]

Beyond the mistrust people nowadays can have against vaccination, I would not mind if people chose not to get vaccined, but then I take a look at how previously eradicated illnesses like Polio seems to start to reappear in the United States because people have chosen not to get vaccined against it, just by providing an example.

You might want to find a different example given that pretty much all 'polio' that people have these days is vaccine strain.

Also, I do not understand much of the logic from not getting vaccinated if most of us were already vaccinated when we were kids or babies. In the case of my country, babies are vaccinated as soon as they can against yellow fever. I am sure it is the same there in The Unidated States and Europe.

More and more it seems that the vaccinations are a big part of the reason that people are so fucked up in so many ways these days.  Worse still, it looks like it could be part of an evolving program which dates back a couple of hundred years to mold the masses into a desirable form.  (e.g., stupid, chronically ill, and in need of pharmaceuticals.)
 

Ironically, vaccines could have already saved the life of thousands of anti-vaccine people, just because they were immunized when they were toddlers, thanks to the love and care of their parents.

Or it could be that the damage to the immune system inherent in manipulating it with adjuvants and the like have cost (the typical plebs) way more in terms of life and health than would have been the case if we just dealt with these usually mild diseases at age appropriate times in our lives.

Wyeth (now Pfizer) relies on the property of vaccines as being 'unavoidably unsafe' to get indemnification for damages they cause.  And they win.

[Sanugarid]

To be honest, I didn't trust it but I didn't have a choice at that time because it was required, you can't leave the house until you are vaccinated. Vaccine ID is required for everything before.
Maybe it's because of the vaccine that I always get sick, because I've never been sick like this before. I did see something on social media that too many people died because of the vaccine, so I'm a little nervous right now, including my family.

[montaga]

To be honest, I didn't trust it but I didn't have a choice at that time because it was required, you can't leave the house until you are vaccinated. Vaccine ID is required for everything before.
Maybe it's because of the vaccine that I always get sick, because I've never been sick like this before. I did see something on social media that too many people died because of the vaccine, so I'm a little nervous right now, including my family.

Check how bad your batch lot is. Some are way worse than others. It sure has not been easy, but everyone did have a choice.
https://knollfrank.github.io/HowBadIsMyBatch/HowBadIsMyBatch.html


Statistician Barry Young now arrested because he revealt the truth, 11000 politicians and elites got exemptions from the vaccine, the whistleblower also confirmed the existence of "hot batches" or "bad batches"
https://twitter.com/MJTruthUltra/status/1731497840583512177?t=B6CPPzEd7VsnSAlFK-JY8w&s=19

[tvbcof]

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Statistician Barry Young now arrested because he revealt the truth, 11000 politicians and elites got exemptions from the vaccine, the whistleblower also confirmed the existence of "hot batches" or "bad batches"
https://twitter.com/MJTruthUltra/status/1731497840583512177?t=B6CPPzEd7VsnSAlFK-JY8w&s=19

What needs to happen is as follows:

 - Reverse engineer the super-hot mix than cook up a batch.

 - Round up everyone involved in pushing this de-pop shot, or even just standing by and keeping their mouths shut about it.

 - Give every one of the group a dose (plus boosters.)

 - Give everyone who got an exemption a double-dose.

 - After a few years in confinement, those who are still among the living can start to go to trial and begin severing their sentences.

 - By this time we'll have a pretty good idea of what the sterilization rate of this bio-weapon is.  If it is above zero, the children of the criminal should sterilized as humanely as possible.  They are not responsible and they should not be punished for the sins of their parents, but the human race simply cannot tolerate such behavior resulting in a 'win' in Darwin's game or it will occur over and over again.  These kids are free to live a happy life; it's just that it will have to be a childless one (unless they adopt) same as for a great number of the victims of this de-pop operation.

[BADecker]

^^^ tvbcof, just wondering what you think of the plasmid stuff in this video:

What's Plasmid DNA? Why's the Cabal Putting it in Food, Water, Air & Vaccines?! Dr. Ardis Interview - https://rumble.com/v3xbdzj-whats-plasmid-dna-whys-the-cabal-putting-it-in-food-water-air-and-vaccines-.html

[tvbcof]

^^^ tvbcof, just wondering what you think of the plasmid stuff in this video:

What's Plasmid DNA? Why's the Cabal Putting it in Food, Water, Air & Vaccines?! Dr. Ardis Interview - https://rumble.com/v3xbdzj-whats-plasmid-dna-whys-the-cabal-putting-it-in-food-water-air-and-vaccines-.html

Skimmed it.  In general I find Ardis to be a waste of time, and very possibly it is deliberately so.  He'll talk your ear off, in very general terms, about real issues that others have already discovered and thus 'the cat is out of the bag' so-to-speak.  He'll also have 'novel' ideas like his snake venom shtick which, even if it has some basis in reality, probably doesn't mean very much.

It's no secret that 'plasmids' are in the vaccines, and indeed that is the fundamental method by which the DNA ones (e.g., AstraZenca) work.  What is new is that there are a shit-load of both plasoidal and strand DNA in at least the Pfizer mRNA vaccines as well.  It comes from the manufacturing process.  As usual, the 'vaccine' submitted for authorization was hand-made by a fairly 'clean' process while the one which was injected was a different thing.  That's genuinely alarming since the LNP technology will protect these contaminates such that they will be efficiently delivered to the nucleus.  Normally these contaminants (if they were in, say, food, or even if they were injected) wouldn't have a snowballs chance in hell of getting past the immune system which hates foreign genetic material above almost any other antigen.

To the (very real) degree that I have concerns about GMO foodstuffs, it is mostly that just about any chemical, toxin, etc may be being produced within the food and consumed by unsuspecting plebs.  Such compounds could very easily be designed to sterilize and otherwise interfere with the function of almost any organ system.

At this point I really don't see solid evidence that genetic material via foods, water, air, etc are a big threat.  A much bigger concern on that front would be to distribute communicable disease which would do genetic transfection in much the same way as the adenovirus DNA vaccines did.  In my city they were testing 'inhalable vaccines', and it isn't a big jump from there to have them delivered in an area form spraying and/or a self-spreading form.  They do a lot of this kind of testing in corrupt 'developing world' countries since there is even less risk of the people being able to fight back.

[Miles2006]

Beyond the mistrust people nowadays can have against vaccination, I would not mind if people chose not to get vaccined, but then I take a look at how previously eradicated illnesses like Polio seems to start to reappear in the United States because people have chosen not to get vaccined against it, just by providing an example.

Also, I do not understand much of the logic from not getting vaccinated if most of us were already vaccinated when we were kids or babies. In the case of my country, babies are vaccinated as soon as they can against yellow fever. I am sure it is the same there in The Unidated States and Europe.

Ironically, vaccines could have already saved the life of thousands of anti-vaccine people, just because they were immunized when they were toddlers, thanks to the love and care of their parents.

Talking about trust, I have never trusted the covid 19 vaccine one bit and most people in my locality also didn't trust the vaccine.
We should be careful with the kind of vaccine we take sometimes they can cause some changes in our body system, looking at the type of disease Covid 19 and it takes a lot to fight against covid 19.
Covid is not the same as polio or other Common illness, in comparison polio has been for years and alot of people has tested this vaccine some making review etc but Covid 19 has not even lasted for long and it's very rare seeing someone making a review about the vaccine, in my opinion there's something behind the illness and the vaccine.

[Dunamisx]

I don't trust the COVID 19 vaccine. At first an African country produced a vaccine for the virus and people tested it and confirmed that it was good but American businessmen condemned it and they produced their and sent to to all the countries in Africa and others and everyone was compelled to confirm the vaccine to be good when we know that is African native method was the best. When they were given the vaccine free in my locality but I didn't take it because I didn't trust the vaccine.

The virus was created to suffer humanity and to make money and they have achieved their goal so the virus die down on it own.

The covid pandemic truly exist, but they turned it to be a means of looting out governments financial treasury at the course, then when they realized that it's going to be a means of extortion, they keep giving negative and false report to the world about the covid until now that everything has died down, they were left with no choice than to stop all their lies this time when they have no more trials in them, the pandemic is gone and dealt with even though it's not everyone that was affected.

[BADecker]

^^^ tvbcof, just wondering what you think of the plasmid stuff in this video:

What's Plasmid DNA? Why's the Cabal Putting it in Food, Water, Air & Vaccines?! Dr. Ardis Interview - https://rumble.com/v3xbdzj-whats-plasmid-dna-whys-the-cabal-putting-it-in-food-water-air-and-vaccines-.html

Skimmed it.  In general I find Ardis to be a waste of time, and very possibly it is deliberately so.  He'll talk your ear off, in very general terms, about real issues that others have already discovered and thus 'the cat is out of the bag' so-to-speak.  He'll also have 'novel' ideas like his snake venom shtick which, even if it has some basis in reality, probably doesn't mean very much.

It's no secret that 'plasmids' are in the vaccines, and indeed that is the fundamental method by which the DNA ones (e.g., AstraZenca) work.  What is new is that there are a shit-load of both plasoidal and strand DNA in at least the Pfizer mRNA vaccines as well.  It comes from the manufacturing process.  As usual, the 'vaccine' submitted for authorization was hand-made by a fairly 'clean' process while the one which was injected was a different thing.  That's genuinely alarming since the LNP technology will protect these contaminates such that they will be efficiently delivered to the nucleus.  Normally these contaminants (if they were in, say, food, or even if they were injected) wouldn't have a snowballs chance in hell of getting past the immune system which hates foreign genetic material above almost any other antigen.

To the (very real) degree that I have concerns about GMO foodstuffs, it is mostly that just about any chemical, toxin, etc may be being produced within the food and consumed by unsuspecting plebs.  Such compounds could very easily be designed to sterilize and otherwise interfere with the function of almost any organ system.

At this point I really don't see solid evidence that genetic material via foods, water, air, etc are a big threat.  A much bigger concern on that front would be to distribute communicable disease which would do genetic transfection in much the same way as the adenovirus DNA vaccines did.  In my city they were testing 'inhalable vaccines', and it isn't a big jump from there to have them delivered in an area form spraying and/or a self-spreading form.  They do a lot of this kind of testing in corrupt 'developing world' countries since there is even less risk of the people being able to fight back.

Thank you. I get a similar feeling about Dr. Ardis. But I wonder how much of the plasmid idea he talks about is real and true.

Seems to me that the genetic markers that control turning on or off certain genes, can be influenced by repeated thinking of the same thing over and over... especially if it is done in a deep and serious way.

Proper training in genetic marker thinking might remove all diseases, and even lengthen life or remove death altogether.

[Bushdark]

I don't trust the COVID 19 vaccine. At first an African country produced a vaccine for the virus and people tested it and confirmed that it was good but American businessmen condemned it and they produced their and sent to to all the countries in Africa and others and everyone was compelled to confirm the vaccine to be good when we know that is African native method was the best. When they were given the vaccine free in my locality but I didn't take it because I didn't trust the vaccine.

The virus was created to suffer humanity and to make money and they have achieved their goal so the virus die down on it own.

The covid pandemic truly exist, but they turned it to be a means of looting out governments financial treasury at the course, then when they realized that it's going to be a means of extortion, they keep giving negative and false report to the world about the covid until now that everything has died down, they were left with no choice than to stop all their lies this time when they have no more trials in them, the pandemic is gone and dealt with even though it's not everyone that was affected.

The government was able to make so much money from COVID-19 pandemic when people are suffering for nothing. So many innocent people lost their lives due to the pandemic but the government never cares to reduce the effect but what they could do is to inflict more pains on the poor especially to the people that lost their jobs in the process. We are glad that the pandemic is over now and we'll living a better and refreshed live again after many people had thought that the pandemic would take a longer time to end.

[Mate2237]

I don't trust the COVID 19 vaccine. At first an African country produced a vaccine for the virus and people tested it and confirmed that it was good but American businessmen condemned it and they produced their and sent to to all the countries in Africa and others and everyone was compelled to confirm the vaccine to be good when we know that is African native method was the best. When they were given the vaccine free in my locality but I didn't take it because I didn't trust the vaccine.

The virus was created to suffer humanity and to make money and they have achieved their goal so the virus die down on it own.

The covid pandemic truly exist, but they turned it to be a means of looting out governments financial treasury at the course, then when they realized that it's going to be a means of extortion, they keep giving negative and false report to the world about the covid until now that everything has died down, they were left with no choice than to stop all their lies this time when they have no more trials in them, the pandemic is gone and dealt with even though it's not everyone that was affected.

The government was able to make so much money from COVID-19 pandemic when people are suffering for nothing. So many innocent people lost their lives due to the pandemic but the government never cares to reduce the effect but what they could do is to inflict more pains on the poor especially to the people that lost their jobs in the process. We are glad that the pandemic is over now and we'll living a better and refreshed live again after many people had thought that the pandemic would take a longer time to end.

That virus killed innocent people in the world and that was a drug genocide against humanity. Research shows that the virus was created by scientific scholars and sponsored by world first class businessmen to look for money. And if you understand disease diplomacy from the medical and social science field of study in the international study you will discovered that disease or virus are now parr of the business idea by the world wealthy people.

The dead of humanity is not their business but they only after their money. They always wan to stable their wealth. So every two or three years interval, there must be disease or virus that would destroy the human race for them to get enough money. But time is coming that God will destroy all of them

[BADecker]

We are starting to find out just how good the f***ing Covis vaxxes are. The depopulators of the world think they are the best.


DEATH SENTENCE: 1 Million COVID Vaccinated have died in England compared to just 61k Unvaccinated in 2 years; despite 30% of the Population refusing a single dose of the COVID Injection


https://expose-news.com/2023/12/05/death-sentence-covid-vaccine-1-million-deaths/
Shocking data released by the UK Government shows that over the past two years, the vaccinated population in England have suffered an outrageous number of deaths compared to the unvaccinated population despite the fact approximately 30% of the population has not even had a single dose of the COVID-19 vaccine.

According to the UK Government department known as the UK Health Agency (UKHSA), by 3rd July 2022, 18.9 million people had refused the first dose of the COVID-19 injection, 21.5 million people had refused the 2nd dose of the COVID-19 injection, alongside 2.6 million people who had received the first dose but refused the second, and 30.4 million people had refused the third dose of the Covid-19 injection alongside 8.9 million people who had received the second dose but refused the third. (Source)

According to the UKHSA's figures, 63.4 million people were eligible for vaccination at this point. Therefore, 18.9 million people refused the COVID-19 vaccine in England and remained completely unvaccinated.

But on top of this, a further 2.6 million refused a second dose, meaning 21.5 million people were not double vaccinated, and 8.9 million people refused a third dose, meaning 30.4 million people were not triple vaccinated.

In July 2022, thirty per cent of the population of England remained completely unvaccinated. 34% of the population of England were not double vaccinated, and 50% of the population were not triple vaccinated.

However, as is shown in the following chart, the vaccinated population as a whole accounted for 95% of all COVID-19 deaths between January and May 2023, while the unvaccinated population accounted for just 5%.
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