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July 23, 2021, 07:42:59 AM
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In addition, taking into account that the number of infections are increasing but the deaths are decreasing (yesterday I was surprised and happy to know that in my province nobody has died in the last two weeks from covid) this authoritarianism makes even less sense.

Compare the infection and death rate of the vaccinated to the unvaccinated. 

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July 23, 2021, 08:02:22 AM
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In addition, taking into account that the number of infections are increasing but the deaths are decreasing (yesterday I was surprised and happy to know that in my province nobody has died in the last two weeks from covid) this authoritarianism makes even less sense.

Compare the infection and death rate of the vaccinated to the unvaccinated. 

Looks like:

 - relatively few people of any stripe are dying, or being labeled as dying any more.

 - 'vaccinated' are getting 'covid' at the same rate as people who are not 'vaccinated' and do not have natural immunity.

 - people who had a SARS-cov-2 infection in the last year and a half (natural immunity) are almost never getting any 'variant' again.

 - a large pool of people seem to be immune from SARS-cov-2 or any so far seen 'variant' of it.  Period.  Probably many/most people who had a cornavirus common cold in the last number of years.

And, exactly as predicted, adverse reactions from the experimental gene therapy which they re-named a 'vaccine' are being falsely called 'covid' which both gets the perps off the hook, and helps ramp up the public fear by bolstering the numbers used in the phony 'statistics' distributed by the corporate media propagandists.


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July 23, 2021, 02:17:48 PM
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Personally, I do not believe in the vaccine considering how soon or how fast it was made. If we'll take a look back at the history, there are a lot of illnesses wherein a vaccine hasn't been developed up until now. While we're here, being forced to believe in a vaccine that was made for a virus that just showed up very recently. I think it is just a scheme to cover up the government's failure as well as their way of manipulating people to believe that ones you get vaccinated, you should not fear the virus anymore. Its effectiveness is yet to be considered and it will show off as years passes by.
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July 23, 2021, 02:47:48 PM
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https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1418562940458967046

Maybe members of the media are the reason why there's so much vaccine hesitancy? The US develops one of the first Covid shots that is safe and effective, but because orange cheeto and his Hitlerian antics, we were not allowed to trust the vaccine. I notice the script happen to produce a 180 the moment Joe Biden got elected, but for reasons unbeknownst to me, I don't believe the media will apologize for their vaccine misinformation campaign.
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July 23, 2021, 09:50:54 PM
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We still do not have a 100% Covid19 vaccine. But do not be afraid to get vaccinated, my sister has already received the Chinese Sinopharm vaccine and did not feel any side effects to regret. I have not yet received my vaccine but I plan to get vaccinated. Covid19 will apparently be with us for a long time. We have just seen the opening of the Tokyo 2020 Olympic games and there have been athetas who will not compete because they are infected with covid19.
I admire the courage and dedication of the organizers to making the event possible. There we have our brave young people fulfilling their golden dream of participating, reaching new marks in the rating, competing and winning. My message is "Yes" to the Covid19 vaccine.

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July 24, 2021, 01:31:18 AM
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5100 vaccinated individuals get Covid after jab, 80 have died: https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/more-than-5100-breakthrough-covid-cases-reported-in-mass-at-least-80-have-died/2435719/

Tells you more about the PCR tests they use for Covid,  blood titers confirm the high level antibody presence for the spike proteins in double vaccinated individuals, so they might come in contact with the virus and have a mild form. But, if they were to get tested, the virus would still be present within their system, and recognized in a PCR test. Seems almost useless to test a vaxxed person unless they're extremely ill and in the hospital, and that is incredibly rare.
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July 24, 2021, 03:15:38 AM
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Personally, I do not believe in the vaccine considering how soon or how fast it was made. If we'll take a look back at the history, there are a lot of illnesses wherein a vaccine hasn't been developed up until now. While we're here, being forced to believe in a vaccine that was made for a virus that just showed up very recently. I think it is just a scheme to cover up the government's failure as well as their way of manipulating people to believe that ones you get vaccinated, you should not fear the virus anymore. Its effectiveness is yet to be considered and it will show off as years passes by.

There are different kind of viruses and different way to approach them. I think you are referring to HIV/AIDS or Cancer when you said about undeveloped vaccines. But the thing is, there are a lot of studies runned through the same process done with the COVID vaccine, but the efficacy is not that great to be called a vaccine for the HIV/AIDS, that is the reason why.

And as much as your concern, you are comparing the past from the present where advancements and innovations of science have already occurred. Plus as much as there are few boss level virus where science are yet to conquer, there are a lot like small pox that already had been eradicated through the vaccines  Wink

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July 24, 2021, 04:32:39 AM
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The only thing the so called Covid-19 vaccine does is to harm the central nervous system, immune system and cardiovasular system

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July 24, 2021, 04:08:30 PM
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The only thing the so called Covid-19 vaccine does is to harm the central nervous system, immune system and cardiovasular system

I can do better than that

The Covid-19 Vaccine do make you a mutant that has the power to attract metal elements in your surrounding. Thus making your body organs weak and pale Sad

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July 24, 2021, 04:56:32 PM
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5100 vaccinated individuals get Covid after jab, 80 have died: https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/more-than-5100-breakthrough-covid-cases-reported-in-mass-at-least-80-have-died/2435719/

Tells you more about the PCR tests they use for Covid,  blood titers confirm the high level antibody presence for the spike proteins in double vaccinated individuals, so they might come in contact with the virus and have a mild form. But, if they were to get tested, the virus would still be present within their system, and recognized in a PCR test. Seems almost useless to test a vaxxed person unless they're extremely ill and in the hospital, and that is incredibly rare.

The exact argument goes for non-vaccinated people as well you know.  We 'conspiracy theorists' have been shouting this from the roof-tops, and so would the guy who won the Nobel prize for developing PCR if he had not died of 'pneumonia' a few months before this plandemic started.  The only use for the PCR test is to pump up the numbers and terrify the scientifically illiterate dolts.

The reason for not testing vaccinated people is to save face since it is obvious that the so-called 'vaccine' doesn't do shit except cause adverse reactions (and probably some other yet-to-be disclosed thing), and it's looking more and more like they may neutralize what antibodies a naturally immune person has allowing them to become re-infected.

Note that vaccine strain polio was defined as something other than polio ('acute flaccid paralysis' IIRC) in India where 50,000 or so kids are limping around on crutches (and doubtless a lot more killed) thanks to Gates and the WHO.  What this does is allow the count for 'polio' to be labeled and near zero and thus a 'success' for the polio campaign.  Westerners buy it; Indians not so much.  Anyway, they are obviously working on a similar trick for 'covid'.


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July 24, 2021, 05:10:17 PM
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It is a scam to start with...
https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html

Any test above 34 cycles has 0% accuracy

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July 24, 2021, 06:29:58 PM
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My point is strictly about the inflated case numbers (inflated being people tested that don't really need to be tested), because the only metric that matters are COVID deaths, not cases. I’m not saying they are lying about the case counts, only alarmist hyperbolic propaganda being pushed by those that would say the pandemic is not over, even in the age of vaccination, by falsely attributing breakthrough cases with a need to mask up and lockdown. I know it’s coming, hell, it’s already here.
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July 24, 2021, 07:50:54 PM
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I didn't read the story, but I will say that I've heard 'Dr. Ruby' and the 'Stew Peters show' mention this.  I have to say that it smells strongly of bullshit:

The 'doctor' seems to be taking a ratio of presumed nucleic acid to presumed graphene and saying 99%.  This is worse than untrue because it would mean nothing.  The volume of genetic material would be tiny and something like 'volume' (or even something like mol weight) is utterly meaningless for this kind of biological science without a bunch of other information.

It should be fairly obvious logic that 'graphene oxide' is NOT '99%' of 'the shot'.  Claiming that it is, or even using phraseology which could be construed as such, is trivial to 'debunk'.  And that _could_ be the very goal of a psyop here.

We are in an informational and psychological battlefield with multiple levels.  People who are doing things which are almost certain to end up as strong negatives (to the so-called 'anti-vax' side) don't get much of a second chance with me, and when they are a fixture of a show like 'Stew Peters' (which I had never heard of before) it paints that information source in a bad light as well.  By extension, the potential taint of that show rubs off on anyone who appears on it.  Even, say, Del Bigtree.

The video has english subtitle
This is an objective scientific report from the Public University of Almeria.
It is a preliminary report of real clinical analysis of a viral sample deliverd by military police.
The profossor in charge of the research.
https://es.linkedin.com/in/prof-dr-pablo-campra-madrid-9350b458

I smelt a rat on this study.  One of those '6th sense' things I guess.  There were various red-flags though.

Whitney Webb shreds this study, and (unbeknownst to me until now) has very fortuitious qualifications to do it.

  https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/whitney-webb-interview-is-there-graphene-oxide-in-the-covid-19-injections/

This kind of work (detailed, precise, accurate, and especially _backed up with links_) is EXACTLY why TLAV was booted from jootube and etc a while ago and just had PayPal steal all the money which they had in their PayPal account.  Heavy attack.


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In addition, taking into account that the number of infections are increasing but the deaths are decreasing (yesterday I was surprised and happy to know that in my province nobody has died in the last two weeks from covid) this authoritarianism makes even less sense.

Compare the infection and death rate of the vaccinated to the unvaccinated.  

Looks like:

 - relatively few people of any stripe are dying, or being labeled as dying any more.

 - 'vaccinated' are getting 'covid' at the same rate as people who are not 'vaccinated' and do not have natural immunity.

 - people who had a SARS-cov-2 infection in the last year and a half (natural immunity) are almost never getting any 'variant' again.

 - a large pool of people seem to be immune from SARS-cov-2 or any so far seen 'variant' of it.  Period.  Probably many/most people who had a cornavirus common cold in the last number of years.

And, exactly as predicted, adverse reactions from the experimental gene therapy which they re-named a 'vaccine' are being falsely called 'covid' which both gets the perps off the hook, and helps ramp up the public fear by bolstering the numbers used in the phony 'statistics' distributed by the corporate media propagandists.


The above is a perfect example of misinformation that is not even supported by anything.

- relatively few people of any stripe are dying, or being labeled as dying any more.
Scarry numbers of people die every day. You can check by date and region using the sources below.
Sources:
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/ (Johns Hopkins University)
https://covid19.who.int/ (WHO Coronavirus (COVID-19) Dashboard)

- 'vaccinated' are getting 'covid' at the same rate as people who are not 'vaccinated' and do not have natural immunity.
Vaccinated people don't get sick nor die. Virtually all new Covid deaths and hospitalizations are among unvaccinated people.
Sources:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/07/21/1018872469/worried-about-breakthrough-covid-cases-heres-what-to-know
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/vaccinated-people-singapore-make-up-three-quarters-recent-covid-19-cases-2021-07-23/
https://scdhec.gov/news-releases/dhec-analysis-more-90-percent-covid-19-cases-deaths-june-were-among-unvaccinated
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2021/07/01/995-of-people-killed-by-covid-in-last-6-months-were-unvaccinated-data-suggests/?sh=476c3653493d

- people who had a SARS-cov-2 infection in the last year and a half (natural immunity) are almost never getting any 'variant' again.
If they don't die or ruin their internal organs by the sickness.

- a large pool of people seem to be immune from SARS-cov-2 or any so far seen 'variant' of it.  Period.  Probably many/most people who had a cornavirus common cold in the last number of years.
The numbers on this are inconsistent and are from iffy sources. Even so, this doesn't negate anything about the need to vaccinate the population.
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July 24, 2021, 08:37:52 PM
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For those who think that mRNA covid vaccines were developed too quickly - please have a look at this video.

Although the video is old, it is well made and explains that the technology is not new and how mRNA vaccines work.

Why It Actually Took 50 Years to Make COVID mRNA Vaccines - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPeeCyJReZw&ab_channel=SciShow
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July 24, 2021, 11:59:05 PM
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No as for me, I don't trust it, before the onset of covid 19 people die on an account of daily basis either through one or two sicknesses while accident has the highest  rate of people's death in Africa, the idea is that covid only sought out for the over age people with low immunity system and attack, its rear for a young and vibrant youth or adolescent to die of covid and a person that is always engaged on a busy daily activities, hustling in the day time and sweating can never be perforated for covid 19 Penetration, which is one of the reason in UK many died of covid during the harmattan (winter) season when theirs excessive cold but covid can't survive our busy day hot environmental temperature. In fact some still believe covid doesn't exist, but as for me, I negate the administration of covid 19 vaccine as a young adult (youth).
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July 25, 2021, 02:38:30 AM
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I'm sure the vaccine isn't hiding anything crazy that is going to magnetize people or any other said nonsense.  I don't believe people do things maliciously just to be evil for the most part.  I'm more concerned about the president it sets going forward.  We went from locking down so hospitals wouldn't be overwhelmed to wanting people to get special passports to walk around outside.  Not to mention we're probably going to create superbugs that really will kill people and will get around vaccinations through mutations or some other way.

In short...  I'm not worried about the vaccine and I'm sure it can be trusted to do what it says it does.  I am terrified my government will hold me prisoner if I refuse to receive a vaccine.  I'm also worried all these people getting vaccinated are going to create a superbug that might kill me someday.  The shot's contents and effects though, that's not a big concern for me.

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July 25, 2021, 02:51:20 AM
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I'm sure the vaccine isn't hiding anything crazy that is going to magnetize people or any other said nonsense.  I don't believe people do things maliciously just to be evil for the most part.  I'm more concerned about the president it sets going forward.  We went from locking down so hospitals wouldn't be overwhelmed to wanting people to get special passports to walk around outside.  Not to mention we're probably going to create superbugs that really will kill people and will get around vaccinations through mutations or some other way.

In short...  I'm not worried about the vaccine and I'm sure it can be trusted to do what it says it does.  I am terrified my government will hold me prisoner if I refuse to receive a vaccine.  I'm also worried all these people getting vaccinated are going to create a superbug that might kill me someday.  The shot's contents and effects though, that's not a big concern for me.

It is normal to over react, to over think, and subconsciously think of non-existent scenarios that may happen as we are already engaged in different sci-fi movies in our younger age. Human are exceptional in that case as we just not go with our instincts, and make a logical reasoning behind everything, and That's good.

The only thing I can't stand is spreading misinformation and claiming it as the true out of all the data's and informations in the system.

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July 25, 2021, 05:19:18 AM
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For those who think that mRNA covid vaccines were developed too quickly - please have a look at this video.

Although the video is old, it is well made and explains that the technology is not new and how mRNA vaccines work.

Why It Actually Took 50 Years to Make COVID mRNA Vaccines - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPeeCyJReZw&ab_channel=SciShow


well.. it is actually around 100 years that food coloring is used in foods so..yeah keep eating them, how long are humans eating it? around a 100 years.

that mRNA..how long have we been injecting it to humans? 50 years? lol..

if i am staying away from food coloring that is FDA approved and being eaten by humans, imagine how much i would stay away from mRNA vaccine?

remember you cannot unvaxx yourself Wink
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