Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ?

[Eclipse33]

No shit
"reports from Israel suggest INCREASED RISK OF SEVERE DISEASE amongst those vaccinated early".
https://twitter.com/i/status/1440288590521516042

Apparently there is a damning report from a German Pathological institute on its way.


Dead after million cuts

Sign me up!

[BADecker]

^^^ Sign you up to what? To get more vaccines?     

[n0nce]

Anyway, I already pinned 50% of doctors as being the Grim Reaper in disguise before the plandemic.  Now it's up around 90%.  So I'll just do my own work...

The only time the white coat to ever see me ever again is some kind of serious accident.

You guys are very confusing. First, you say most doctors are indoctrinated. Then you quote doctors that say the pandemic is fake, so those are somehow not indoctrinated even though they had the same 'indoctrinating' education. And lastly, you do want to trust a doctor with your life when you have a serious accident, so they're not so bad after all? You do know what kind of medicines and 'chemicals' get 'injeccted' into your precious, brittle little bodies that can't move for 10 minutes after an injection, when you're lying on an operation table after a serious accident?

[KingsDen]

Before the issue of trust is raised, my major concerns are below;
1. Can one still be affected even after being vaccinated?
2. Are there extreme side effects of the vaccination?
3. Is there any conspiracy behind the vaccination?
4. Are the vaccines tested extensively and proven good?
5. Do you trust the government?
In number 5, there are some holy books that said subjects should obey the leaders. So, if we do not trust the government or maybe suspecting they will kill us all, it's very bad.
6. Covid-19 is not country base, if there be a conspiracy it should be an international conspiracy. To what end then? Trusting the vaccine will depend largely on your answers above.

[n0nce]

6. Covid-19 is not country base, if there be a conspiracy it should be an international conspiracy. To what end then? Trusting the vaccine will depend largely on your answers above.

This point is very interesting and common in most conspiracies, like 'chemtrails', 'fake global warming' etc.
They give politicians and influential people of the world way too much credit They really expect everybody to collaborate - from communist to capitalist countries, between countries in freaking war, every last scientist collecting data independently etc., without anyone slipping and revealing the 'master plan' to the 'sheeples' that are all of us ^^
Man, even the EU isn't able to work out things together and it's less than 20 states, and they don't have to keep everything secret while doing it..

[Tash]

Bam
Why a Doctor in Alberta with a masters from harvard refuses to be shot death with the mRNA toxin injection.
https://www.jccf.ca/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Sep-15-FINAL-PAYNE-CPSA-letter.pdf

Natural immunity from SARS-CoV-2 is more durable and robust than the partial immunity achieved from the current mRNA vaccines

[Lordhermes]

I have not been vaccinated,but I have the belief that the Vaccine is good enough to cure anyone sick of the dreaded disease called covid19.Government cannot bring out or produce a drugs that will not totally cure a sickness,and tell the whole world that the cure is gotten.I believe before showing the world about it,it must have been tested and verified that it is good to go.So it is trusted by me.

[Hamich124D]

Damn the misinformation being thrown around here is insane ! well its a bitcoin forum after all dunno what i expected.

I have not been vaccinated,but I have the belief that the Vaccine is good enough to cure anyone sick of the dreaded disease called covid19.Government cannot bring out or produce a drugs that will not totally cure a sickness,and tell the whole world that the cure is gotten.I believe before showing the world about it,it must have been tested and verified that it is good to go.So it is trusted by me.

Vaccines don't cure anything,it's a prevention measure you take the vaccin before getting sick so when you get the actual virus your body will be much more prepared against it
im sure you know that...right ?

Bam
Why a Doctor in Alberta with a masters from harvard refuses to be shot death with the mRNA toxin injection.
https://www.jccf.ca/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Sep-15-FINAL-PAYNE-CPSA-letter.pdf

Natural immunity from SARS-CoV-2 is more durable and robust than the partial immunity achieved from the current mRNA vaccines

What about all the other doctors and scientists around the world who actually took the vaccin ? why are just chosing to focus on this one ?

1. Can one still be affected even after being vaccinated?

Yes.

2. Are there extreme side effects of the vaccination?

No.The possible side effects are what you would expect from any vaccin (Tiredness,Headache,Muscle pain,Chills,Fever,Nausea....)

4. Are the vaccines tested extensively and proven good?

Read people read

3. Is there any conspiracy behind the vaccination?
5. Do you trust the government?
6. Covid-19 is not country base, if there be a conspiracy it should be an international conspiracy. To what end then? Trusting the vaccine will depend largely on your answers above.

Uhhhhhh

[Tash]

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What about all the other doctors and scientists around the world who actually took the vaccin ? why are just chosing to focus on this one ?

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You mean the scientist in the sig (Scientists and vaccines)?

[BADecker]

Damn the misinformation being thrown around here is insane ! well its a bitcoin forum after all dunno what i expected.

I have not been vaccinated,but I have the belief that the Vaccine is good enough to cure anyone sick of the dreaded disease called covid19.Government cannot bring out or produce a drugs that will not totally cure a sickness,and tell the whole world that the cure is gotten.I believe before showing the world about it,it must have been tested and verified that it is good to go.So it is trusted by me.

Vaccines don't cure anything,it's a prevention measure you take the vaccin before getting sick so when you get the actual virus your body will be much more prepared against it
im sure you know that...right ?

Actually, all the vaxxes do is make the people think that they are healed or protected. Their protection comes from what they believe, a form of placebo effect.

Bam
Why a Doctor in Alberta with a masters from harvard refuses to be shot death with the mRNA toxin injection.
https://www.jccf.ca/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Sep-15-FINAL-PAYNE-CPSA-letter.pdf

Natural immunity from SARS-CoV-2 is more durable and robust than the partial immunity achieved from the current mRNA vaccines

What about all the other doctors and scientists around the world who actually took the vaccin ? why are just chosing to focus on this one ?

I don't think we can get links about all the other doctors. But go thru all these videos - https://www.bitchute.com/channel/okiFK5CwQrZS/ - to see what a bunch of doctors from around the world think.

1. Can one still be affected even after being vaccinated?

Yes.

It's kinda like those people who haven't been vaxxed, and still can't be infected... without being vaxxed.

Does anybody have a study where test subjects (people) were injected with pure Covid and got sick from it?

2. Are there extreme side effects of the vaccination?

No.The possible side effects are what you would expect from any vaccin (Tiredness,Headache,Muscle pain,Chills,Fever,Nausea....)

4. Are the vaccines tested extensively and proven good?

Read people read

But VAERS shows death in loads of vaxx cases - https://openvaers.com/, https://openvaers.com/covid-data, https://openvaers.com/images/r18hs017045-lazarus-final-report-20116.pdf.

3. Is there any conspiracy behind the vaccination?
5. Do you trust the government?
6. Covid-19 is not country base, if there be a conspiracy it should be an international conspiracy. To what end then? Trusting the vaccine will depend largely on your answers above.

Uhhhhhh

It IS an international conspiracy. The groundwork for it has been being laid for over 100 years.

[Tash]

Myocarditis increased hundred fold after the "vaccine"
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.09.13.21262182v1.full

[Hamich124D]

Actually, all the vaxxes do is make the people think that they are healed or protected.

Are you talking about vaccines in general or just the covid ones ?

Their protection comes from what they believe, a form of placebo effect.

This study and many more others clinical trials will disagree

[Tash]

The same people who think they healthy after vaccination, think they are rich after having a loan approved.

[BADecker]

Actually, all the vaxxes do is make the people think that they are healed or protected.

Are you talking about vaccines in general or just the covid ones ?

Their protection comes from what they believe, a form of placebo effect.

This study and many more others clinical trials will disagree

Studies only do one thing. They prove that the universe works in the ways that those who believe, believe it does.

[Hamich124D]

Actually, all the vaxxes do is make the people think that they are healed or protected.

Are you talking about vaccines in general or just the covid ones ?

Their protection comes from what they believe, a form of placebo effect.

This study and many more others clinical trials will disagree

Studies only do one thing. They prove that the universe works in the ways that those who believe, believe it does.

You should've probably told me that you dont believe in studies/science  in the first place, Our debate would've been much shorter.

[BADecker]

Actually, all the vaxxes do is make the people think that they are healed or protected.

Are you talking about vaccines in general or just the covid ones ?

Their protection comes from what they believe, a form of placebo effect.

This study and many more others clinical trials will disagree

Studies only do one thing. They prove that the universe works in the ways that those who believe, believe it does.

You should've probably told me that you dont believe in studies/science  in the first place, Our debate would've been much shorter.

But I DO believe that some of science works. I have to, because it was the faith of some scientists that caused some of it to happen. Now that I know that it works, it is very difficult to believe it out of existence, especially in the face of all those others who believe it right along with me.

For example. A point in space is simply the place where all the points around it meet. It doesn't really exist, itself. But now some scientists have math that suggests that a point in space can have tons of material in it. They call it a black hole.

The funny thing about black hole science is, that while some of the math says that it can exist this way, other math says that it is impossible for it to exist this way. So, it is published to exist, and many people believe that it does. At some point the faith of the believers will be enough to bring it into existence, and the missing piece of math for black holes will be "found," and people will think black holes were always there. They won't realize that they were simply believed into existence.



Take a ship for example. A modern pleasure cruise ship has all kinds of science built into it. Most units in the ship are made using more than one science - electricity, metallurgy, electronics, glass, buoyancy, etc.  You can't take placebo effect (personal, automatic, natural metaphysics) out of modern medicine, and expect anything to work perfectly.

And more important, you can't take God out of the equation at all. People who have God in their hearts have way more power at their fingertips than they realize. If they use it, they can overcome both Covid, and the way more dangerous Covid vaxx.

[af_newbie]

Actually, all the vaxxes do is make the people think that they are healed or protected.

Are you talking about vaccines in general or just the covid ones ?

Their protection comes from what they believe, a form of placebo effect.

This study and many more others clinical trials will disagree

Studies only do one thing. They prove that the universe works in the ways that those who believe, believe it does.

You should've probably told me that you dont believe in studies/science  in the first place, Our debate would've been much shorter.

But I DO believe that some of science works. I have to, because it was the faith of some scientists that caused some of it to happen. Now that I know that it works, it is very difficult to believe it out of existence, especially in the face of all those others who believe it right along with me.

For example. A point in space is simply the place where all the points around it meet. It doesn't really exist, itself. But now some scientists have math that suggests that a point in space can have tons of material in it. They call it a black hole.

The funny thing about black hole science is, that while some of the math says that it can exist this way, other math says that it is impossible for it to exist this way. So, it is published to exist, and many people believe that it does. At some point the faith of the believers will be enough to bring it into existence, and the missing piece of math for black holes will be "found," and people will think black holes were always there. They won't realize that they were simply believed into existence.



Take a ship for example. A modern pleasure cruise ship has all kinds of science built into it. Most units in the ship are made using more than one science - electricity, metallurgy, electronics, glass, buoyancy, etc.  You can't take placebo effect (personal, automatic, natural metaphysics) out of modern medicine, and expect anything to work perfectly.

And more important, you can't take God out of the equation at all. People who have God in their hearts have way more power at their fingertips than they realize. If they use it, they can overcome both Covid, and the way more dangerous Covid vaxx.

How many Christian preachers died from covid?  How many religious people died from covid?

[BADecker]

How many Christian preachers died from covid?  How many religious people died from covid?

I have similar questions. I guess we will simply have to wait until the Judgement Day, and ask God.

[KingsDen]

1. Can one still be affected even after being vaccinated?

Yes.

Thanks for this link: However, I was thinking it is baseless to take the vaccine if you would still have the chances of being infected even after vaccination.
But I was clarified that no vaccination is 100% efficient. It was said that even if you are vaccinated, you should still obey the Covid-19 rules. But if you are vaccinated and still contacts Covid-19, the severity will be less.
For our safety and the safety of the man beside us, let's accept the vaccination.

[Tash]

The results of the autopsies of eight people who died after COVID19 vaccination is presented (also in Deutsch | Italiano | Español)
The fine tissue analyses were performed by pathologists Prof. Dr. Arne Burkhardt and peer-reviewed by Prof. Dr. Walter Lang.
The findings confirm Prof. Dr. Peter Schirmacher's finding that among more than 40 corpses he autopsied who had died within two weeks of COVID19 vaccination, approximately one-third of those deaths were caused by the vaccination.
https://pathologie-konferenz.de/en/
Spaceship (at ~1:30), chips and all kind of junk (UFO's, unidentified floating objects)  in vaccines.