Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ?

[TwitchySeal]

Millions died because a insane (Hitler) made it compulsory to fight the enemy and exchange the warm bed with cold dirty hole in the ground.
What followed, utter misery and many more deaths for the victor, USSR
This days enemy is so small no one has seen it or found it.
Bitcoin is pro financial, medical liberty, none Bitcoiners aka none libertarians see just red, red..


Heroes of humanity
https://rumble.com/vhsr01-dr.-simone-gold-from-americas-frontline-doctors-talks-about-vaccines-and-li.html

Libertarians don't run around spreading misinformation though.

I agree that any obligations to take a medicine do not comply with a Bitcoiner's mindset. Everyone should be free to take whatever they want.

As a Bitcoiner, you should be campaigning for freedom, science and for truth. Instead, you're fighting against scientifically proven breakthroughs with bogus, false information. You want to prevent people from taking a vaccine instead of wanting them to have the freedom to take whatever they want.

You want misinformation? You want freedom? How about that:

Here is the president of all misinformation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMvEsn4Vf9o

"There is so much misinformation... you know it is about freedom it is about this it is about that... when you got a shot for the measles it is not about freedom."

He don't sound exactly like a freedom fighter to me.

Getting a measles vaccine isn't about freedom, it's about keeping measles from becoming a problem again.

[tvbcof]

Getting a measles vaccine isn't about freedom, it's about keeping measles from becoming a problem again.

To the extent that it ever was a problem, it ceased being so long before the 'vaccine' by way of better sanitation and nutrition mainly.

  

Vaccines are mostly snake-oil which they roll out only when they can take advantage of a natural trend that they can then label 'scientific proof' of efficacy.  The more people who get neurological damage from the vax, the easier it is to keep the game going.

[tvbcof]

I would take Sinovac if it was the only option around. Mainly because I'm not a colossal pussy.

Wow, 'brave' enough to follow the herd and the instructions of the Globalists!  Join the 95% club and have fun pinning 'bravery award' stickers on one another's chests...and tieing tags onto the toes of you fallen comrades.

I will say that it is genuinely 'brave' to take a gene therapy from a eugenicist who thinks you are a useless eater that is better off dead, but only if you are aware of these dynamics.  It's also down-right 'brave' to be a suicide bomber.  At least in some ways of evaluating the word.

From a socio-biological point of view, human populations do tend to expressing a high percentage of 'brave' people.  This mainly because of tribal warfare, where tribes which didn't have enough 'brave' people to throw spears at 'brave' people from the other side, would lead to the extinction of the tribe.  They need a few 'meek' people to perform the roles of planning (leadership) though.

[o_e_l_e_o]

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Oh dear. You are going to have to find some new lunatics to watch on twatchute or whatever your conspiracy vlog of the month is. I already debunked this nonsense graph months ago - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5339046.msg57090153#msg57090153

[tvbcof]

To the extent that it [measles] ever was a problem, it ceased being so long before the 'vaccine' by way of better sanitation and nutrition mainly.

 

Vaccines are mostly snake-oil which they roll out only when they can take advantage of a natural trend that they can then label 'scientific proof' of efficacy.  The more people who get neurological damage from the vax, the easier it is to keep the game going.

Oh dear. You are going to have to find some new lunatics to watch on twatchute or whatever your conspiracy vlog of the month is. I already debunked this nonsense graph months ago - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5339046.msg57090153#msg57090153

And I already pounded your balls flat on that one and you ran away with your tail between your legs.

[o_e_l_e_o]

You linked to a bunch of stats you didn't understand which actually supported my arguments, not yours, but nice try.

[Tash]

And that is just the beginning, years of missery for some "Yes siree!!" to come
https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/military-members-are-dying-and-suffering-crippling-effects-from-covid-vaccinations/

That is what you get when trusting the biggest crook in existence.

[tvbcof]

You linked to a bunch of stats you didn't understand which actually supported my arguments, not yours, but nice try.

You snipped it.  Perhaps you didn't notice that I added it back before spouting your standard 'no citations' lame-ass pseudo-argument?

[BADecker]

Millions died because a insane (Hitler) made it compulsory to fight the enemy and exchange the warm bed with cold dirty hole in the ground.
What followed, utter misery and many more deaths for the victor, USSR
This days enemy is so small no one has seen it or found it.
Bitcoin is pro financial, medical liberty, none Bitcoiners aka none libertarians see just red, red..
https://i.ibb.co/cvbHqQy/temp.jpg

Heroes of humanity
https://rumble.com/vhsr01-dr.-simone-gold-from-americas-frontline-doctors-talks-about-vaccines-and-li.html

Libertarians don't run around spreading misinformation though.

I agree that any obligations to take a medicine do not comply with a Bitcoiner's mindset. Everyone should be free to take whatever they want.

As a Bitcoiner, you should be campaigning for freedom, science and for truth. Instead, you're fighting against scientifically proven breakthroughs with bogus, false information. You want to prevent people from taking a vaccine instead of wanting them to have the freedom to take whatever they want.

You want misinformation? You want freedom? How about that:

Here is the president of all misinformation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMvEsn4Vf9o

"There is so much misinformation... you know it is about freedom it is about this it is about that... when you got a shot for the measles it is not about freedom."

He don't sound exactly like a freedom fighter to me.

Getting a measles vaccine isn't about freedom, it's about keeping measles from becoming a problem again.

Getting a measles vaccine isn't about keeping measles from becoming a problem again. Rather, getting a measles vaxx is about trust.

The vaxxed person trusts his doctor. The doctor trusts the people who gave him the info about the vaxx. Those people trust the heads of the CDC or WHO, etc.  Nobody can even find the scientific notebooks of the people who isolated the measles virus, to say nothing about the people themselves.

All researchers who do any official research, have a notebook wherein they record every step that they take in the research. The notebook is bound in such a way that makes it difficult to remove and replace pages. The pages are numbered so that it is difficult to go over a page to change what was originally written thereon.

The steps done in the research are recorded clearly on the pages in chronological order. The date and possibly the time are recorded as new info is added to each page, as the research process is being carried out. The pages are signed by the researcher. In  modern days, video of the whole process is taken with explanation of what is being done at every step.

If nobody asks for the notebook and video prior to being vaxxed, the vaxx is a trust thing, not a disease problem thing. If they ask for the notebook and video but aren't given these things and still get the vaxx, it remains a trust thing, not a disease problem removal thing. If they are given the notebook and/or video, and have contacted the researcher who signed the notebook, it becomes closer to a real thing. But they still need second and third researchers who did the same thing with the same results.

The doctor might say that these things have been done... because somebody told him that they were done, or because he just couldn't believe that the medical was that evil at its core, but now we are back to trust.

So, the whole medical thing is a trust thing these days. The proof that the trust is untrustworthy is in the medical lawsuits flying around, and the fact that there is malpractice insurance, and worse, by the fact that people are dying without anybody getting to the core truth.

If any doctor wanted to be really professional, he would have copies of the notebooks and videos for review by the patient, including where the patient could go to verify the notebooks. But I am willing to bet that there aren't any doctors that have such. If there are, they are few and far between.

Medicine is a trust thing, and nobody knows if the people at the top of the trust are trustworthy. We are finding that Dr. Fauci isn't trustworthy... now that we have unredacted copies of his emails to Wuhan and wherever. Get your copies from Del Bigtree at The Highwire https://thehighwire.com/.

[o_e_l_e_o]

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If I didn't see the username, I'd say this post was written specifically to caricature the stupidity of anti-vaxxers. This is beyond parody.

[BADecker]

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If I didn't see the username, I'd say this post was written specifically to caricature the stupidity of anti-vaxxers. This is beyond parody.

All you had to say was that you are a very trusting fellow.

Any serious researcher can re-isolate any common virus if he wants. Let's see it done over a couple dozen times, to see if even two of the researchers come up with the same results.

[tvbcof]

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If I didn't see the username, I'd say this post was written specifically to caricature the stupidity of anti-vaxxers. This is beyond parody.

Funny how we keep being right and you keep being wrong as everything you say about your 'vaccine' falls apart and they are already planning the 4th shot in some places.  I said maybe a year ago that after they started injecting people 'covid' would actually become a problem because they were just going to call all the adverse events, damage, and death 'covid'.  There would be actual sick people for a change instead of just fake lamestream news stories about the overloaded hospitals.  Sure enough, things went exactly as I and other so-called 'anti-vaxxers' said it would.

Same thing with the vaccine passports.  That was supposed to be a paranoid fantasy, and still is to the most insulated among us.  We who had been paying attention knew from day one that this is what they were going to do.  We knew that TPTB developed and tested their totalitarian population management systems in China and needed a way to get them to the so-called 'Western Democracies'.  Any fool could see that what the plandemic is all about.  They need the system for the new global monetary system they've been cooking up and talking relatively openly about if anyone cared to listen.  Most idiots are petrified of being labeled a 'conspiracy theorist' so if they accidentally heard or saw something, they would shut their mind to it.  Their mistake...and one of their last mistakes in a lot of cases unfortunately.

[Tash]

The vaccine must be tops when the Red Cross does not want the convalescent plasma from the vaccineted
https://twitter.com/i/status/1431967143004975112
The comming winter will be something

[hornetsnest]

While the bedwetters hide under the bed from the virus hoping the government will protect them from the unclean unvaccinated while the same government write cheques the bedwetters will never be able to cover to enrich the corporations and hidden interests the politicans wittingly or unwittingly serve there is an even greater crisis looming that the bedwetters have been distracted from and that is the real threat of global warfare and actual starvation in some parts of western civilisations that has been brought about by the very men the bedwetters seek protection from through their blind obedience to the international cartel who now own earth incorporated. The same cartel responsible for the deaths of millions over the last 20 years of conflict in the middle east will not protect them but enslave them and lead them to destruction while the bedwetters queue to be pricked and tagged so they can watch the ball game without those nasty unvaxxed extremists being a threat to them. The bedwetters and their ilk took your freedom because it wouldn't have been possile without their cooperation. Thank you and have a nice day  

[Tash]

Governor of West Virginia 
Does he sniff trouble right at start?
https://twitter.com/i/status/1435041677425709056

[adeyemirichard71]

I fully support the use of vaccines, but I worry about possible long-term side effects with the new vaccines. How can anyone say with any confidence there will be no long-term consequences with vaccines that have been developed so rapidly.

[n0nce]

I fully support the use of vaccines, but I worry about possible long-term side effects with the new vaccines. How can anyone say with any confidence there will be no long-term consequences with vaccines that have been developed so rapidly.

Well because what it does in your body is very logical and basically the same as with traditional vaccines: your body produces antibodies, stores info in memory B cells and destroys the mRNA. The mRNA is then gone within hours so it can’t cause any effect in the future. The only effects that it will cause will be few hours after the shot. After that it‘s just gone.
Antibodies and memory B cells are created upon detecting the newly created (and later destroyed) spike proteins just the same way as in a traditional vaccine, so there‘s no added risk there. We know exactly how the antibodies and memory cells behave since they are created in the same fashion as always. Just a reaction to new unknown spike proteins.

[Tash]

I fully support the use of vaccines, but I worry about possible long-term side effects with the new vaccines. How can anyone say with any confidence there will be no long-term consequences with vaccines that have been developed so rapidly.

Lab rats normaly used to see if the can life years with it. All rats died instand so that stage was skiped and went straight to the new variety of "lab rats"

Anyway scientist are not very optimistic with long term survival.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5349296.msg57466608#msg57466608


Dr. Christina Parks testimony for Michigan HB4471 on 8/19/21
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Jktvh6k0qys&feature=share

[tvbcof]

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Lab rats normaly used to see if the can life years with it. All rats died instand so that stage was skiped and went straight to the new variety of "lab rats"
...

The lab rodents exercised their informed consent rights.  They are waiting to see what happens to the idiot humans before they allow injection of that shit into their bodies.

Someone posted a pretty funny cartoon about that from whence I stole the idea.  You?  Maybe Hornetsnest.

Just to make a slight correction from how I understand the phenomenon, initially everything looked pretty good with the gene therapy vaccine experiments.  The lab animals were fine and had 'good antibody readings.'  It's worth note that the way the big pharma gets paid for human 'vaccines' is 'antibody levels' and not much else.  The problem came when they exposed the animals to the disease they were supposed to be vaccinated for.  That is, an emulation of the next wild strain epidemic.  They call it 'challenge', and it is to figure out what the vaccine actually did.  When they did that the animals died in alarming numbers from a freaky immune response.  This 'Antibody Dependant Enhancement' phenomenon occurs with only a minority of infections.  Coronavirus, RSV, and Dengue are a few examples.

Anyway, it's very clear why the plandemic was designed in such a way as to skip the 'animal' trials.

[Tash]

"I’m willing to take my NATURAL COVID IMMUNITY case to the US Supreme Court"
https://youtu.be/aU7uBmLUiiY

Well there is this case
https://nclalegal.org/zywicki-v-gmu/
Law professor WINS lawsuit against university vaccine mandate, gets granted medical exemption on the basis of natural immunity