Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ?

[mindrust]

Frankly we do not have any option but to trust them,

Why is that? I do have that option and that means, you should too.

...we cannot stay without taking vaccine because it is much more riskier so i would advice to take your vaccines.

Nope. Actually the latest studies say the delta variant (which is the dominant variant now they say) is more effective at killing the vaccinated people and the natural immunity works better than getting vaccinated.

Israel is probably the most vaxxed country and still the number of deaths are as high as the pre-vaccine period.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/

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[tvbcof]

Nope. Actually the latest studies say the delta variant (which is the dominant variant now they say) is more effective at killing the vaccinated people and the natural immunity works better than getting vaccinated.

Israel is probably the most vaxxed country and still the number of deaths are as high as the pre-vaccine period.
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They'll say that they made a slight tweak to the code to correct for 'delta', but the overall gene therapy 'platform' remains the same so the 'approval' still stands.  They need to set the precedent to code for any protein they like without further tests and trials and I have zero doubt that they will.

The so-called useless eaters have no understanding of this stuff and no ability to do so even if they tried apparently.  Darwin strikes again I suppose.

[Cnut237]

Israel is probably the most vaxxed country and still the number of deaths are as high as the pre-vaccine period.

And would be considerably higher if people weren't vaccinated. The vaccine confers protection* against the delta variant, as the data show.

Nope. Actually the latest studies say the delta variant (which is the dominant variant now they say) is more effective at killing the vaccinated people and the natural immunity works better than getting vaccinated.

Nope. That that's not what the data tell us at all. If you have inferred that, then your logic is flawed.




https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-unvaccinated-booster-65-serious-covid-19-cases-death-delta-1.10208784




* Not 100%, but some is better than none, right?

[BADecker]

Israel is probably the most vaxxed country and still the number of deaths are as high as the pre-vaccine period.

And would be considerably higher if people weren't vaccinated. The vaccine confers protection* against the delta variant, as the data show.

Nope. Actually the latest studies say the delta variant (which is the dominant variant now they say) is more effective at killing the vaccinated people and the natural immunity works better than getting vaccinated.

Nope. That that's not what the data tell us at all. If you have inferred that, then your logic is flawed.




https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-unvaccinated-booster-65-serious-covid-19-cases-death-delta-1.10208784




* Not 100%, but some is better than none, right?

Of course government people are going to make things look good. Nobody wants to show the world how stupid they are.

Check the article for links and emphasis, and watch the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPLLdLzept4.


Political Commentator Kim Iversen Unpacks 'Alarming and Shocking' COVID Data From Israel

09/17/21

Political Commentator Kim Iversen Unpacks 'Alarming and Shocking' COVID Data From Israel

Political talk show host Kim Iversen, who has been closely following COVID vaccine data in multiple countries, walks viewers through the data from Israel suggesting the vaccines are failing.



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Political talk show host Kim Iversen, on a segment of the Kim Iversen Show Wednesday, called the latest COVID data coming out of Israel "alarming and shocking."

Iversen reminded viewers that Israel was nearly fully vaccinated by February, after striking a deal with Pfizer to make its citizens "essentially … a giant study group."

"They have very high vaccination rates in the country," Iversen said. "Kids are still not vaccinated. There are some super ultra-Orthodox holdouts, but otherwise everybody in Israel banded together and they took the Pfizer vaccine — two doses."

But by summer, Iversen said, Israel health officials determined the vaccine had worn off. "They saw skyrocketing numbers of cases, even after they'd hit this so-called herd immunity threshold of 70%."

At first, Iversen said, it looked as though the vaccines might at least be protecting against more severe symptoms, because for the most part, only the unvaccinated were having to be hospitalized.

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"But then as time went on … the hospitals started to fill up with fully vaccinated people," Iversen said, "and they saw more and more cases among the fully vaccinated, and more and more of them becoming very severe to the point where the majority of their cases in the hospitals and in the ICU and those dying were fully vaccinated people."

Iversen has been tracking data in multiple countries besides Israel, including Iceland, Chile, Seychelles, Uruguay and others.

"I have a whole list of countries that I've been monitoring on this," she said. "And it was really clear early on that the vaccine was not stopping the spread, but it did seem to keep people out of the hospital for a period of time."

But then Israel found the vaccine was wearing off — so they told everybody they would need a third, booster shot, "in order to participate in society," Iversen said.

That seemed to work for awhile — but now cases are rising again.

"I don't know what to make of that, "Iversen said. "And I'm not going to speculate. I'm just going to share the data and I'm going to keep watching that data. And we're going to see what happens. I mean, at this point, that's all we can do. All we can do is see what happens now."

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[Tash]

Now add this
https://web.archive.org/web/20210920055811/https://www.wfla.com/news/national/vaccines-in-your-salad-scientists-growing-medicine-filled-plants-to-replace-injections/
to this study
https://www.htu.edu.cn/_upload/article/files/64/62/b903e2d24a8ea16936960e1369d2/a03f3bcb-90c3-480b-b640-6b4632e62284.pdf

amoungs other issues you end up with "rusty" organs.

[bakasabo]

Did you guy notice, that after having already several vaccine manufactures and the shouts as "we have beaten the virus", after millions of people being forced to take a vaccine or doing it on their own will, the number of cases began to increase. I'm judging it by daily statistics in my country. Most of the population is vaccinated, but the number of cases from 10-20 daily, has increased to 200-400. Whole situation looks as it was in 2020 - low number of cases in summer, followed by a sharp increase in autumn. This lead to a lockdown in 2020. Whole story has started to repeat. The seed of "vaccine isnt working" can start to grow any time now.

[mindrust]

Did you guy notice, that after having already several vaccine manufactures and the shouts as "we have beaten the virus", after millions of people being forced to take a vaccine or doing it on their own will, the number of cases began to increase. I'm judging it by daily statistics in my country. Most of the population is vaccinated, but the number of cases from 10-20 daily, has increased to 200-400. Whole situation looks as it was in 2020 - low number of cases in summer, followed by a sharp increase in autumn. This lead to a lockdown in 2020. Whole story has started to repeat. The seed of "vaccine isnt working" can start to grow any time now.

You'll hate me for this but... we told you so.

Conspiracy theorists(!) won again.

I am just going to grab some more popcorn and now specifically a good time especially when China is about to go bankrupt.

[Tash]

Unvaccinated females will be even more of a challange to find. Looks department will have to move back in priorities.

[bakasabo]

Did you guy notice, that after having already several vaccine manufactures and the shouts as "we have beaten the virus", after millions of people being forced to take a vaccine or doing it on their own will, the number of cases began to increase. I'm judging it by daily statistics in my country. Most of the population is vaccinated, but the number of cases from 10-20 daily, has increased to 200-400. Whole situation looks as it was in 2020 - low number of cases in summer, followed by a sharp increase in autumn. This lead to a lockdown in 2020. Whole story has started to repeat. The seed of "vaccine isnt working" can start to grow any time now.

You'll hate me for this but... we told you so.

Conspiracy theorists(!) won again.

I am just going to grab some more popcorn and now specifically a good time especially when China is about to go bankrupt.

Grab some soda also, because this vaccine drama is going to be long. It is really hard not to lose trust, when it was told that two vaccine doses are enough, and articles Covid-19: How effective is a third vaccine dose? appear here and there. In addition, in our country bums were receiving only one doze. Next year will be offered a fourth doze and in few years we will have a Everybody's got a dealer on speed dial.

[tvbcof]

Unvaccinated females will be even more of a challange to find. Looks department will have to move back in priorities.

Buyer beware:  One doesn't need to have had the jab in order to have had one's germ cells 'augmented' with the superior genetic material of Jeff Epstein and his chosen celebrity-scientist friends and associates.  There are other methods of inducing augmentation and they are becoming more well developed by the day.

As for females, one who can have kids at all will be as rare as hens teeth.  Handmaid's Tale.  Still might be impossible to find one without some germ cell augmentation.  Period.

It's been a long term dream of the technocrats to do away with natural childbirth completely.  If you want a baby, and are certified to have one, you might be able to get one from the corp/gov state.  But you will always have to handle it under authorized protocols, and it will always be state property.

[Tash]

Unvaccinated females will be even more of a challange to find. Looks department will have to move back in priorities.

Buyer beware:  One doesn't need to have had the jab in order to have had one's germ cells 'augmented' with the superior genetic material of Jeff Epstein and his chosen celebrity-scientist friends and associates.  There are other methods of inducing augmentation and they are becoming more well developed by the day.

As for females, one who can have kids at all will be as rare as hens teeth.  Handmaid's Tale.  Still might be impossible to find one without some germ cell augmentation.  Period.

It's been a long term dream of the technocrats to do away with natural childbirth completely.  If you want a baby, and are certified to have one, you might be able to get one from the corp/gov state.  But you will always have to handle it under authorized protocols, and it will always be state property.

Million of questions arising, bu iIt seems the hocus-pocus winding down now. Read some guy traveled from Luxembourg to Croatia and not one country checked vaccination or test status. ‘The fishermen is satisfied with the catch and heading home.’
As it stands the world is once again divided not so much by physical country border but by the vaccinated slaves with the patent injections and the free roaming purebloods.

Time for the next crises
https://mobile.twitter.com/Jkylebass/status/1439908927370633217

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[Natsuu]

Israel is probably the most vaxxed country and still the number of deaths are as high as the pre-vaccine period.

And would be considerably higher if people weren't vaccinated. The vaccine confers protection* against the delta variant, as the data show.

Nope. Actually the latest studies say the delta variant (which is the dominant variant now they say) is more effective at killing the vaccinated people and the natural immunity works better than getting vaccinated.

Nope. That that's not what the data tell us at all. If you have inferred that, then your logic is flawed.




https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-unvaccinated-booster-65-serious-covid-19-cases-death-delta-1.10208784




* Not 100%, but some is better than none, right?

Of course government people are going to make things look good. Nobody wants to show the world how stupid they are.

Check the article for links and emphasis, and watch the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPLLdLzept4.


Political Commentator Kim Iversen Unpacks 'Alarming and Shocking' COVID Data From Israel
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Replaced with it with any name, and you will believe it

The data shows the FACTS, and you ignored it, and place your belief in a "POLITICAL COMMENTATOR"

It's not the government whose lying in this kind of scenario, it is the one who make the assumption and wrong interpretation of the data gathered.

[Gyfts]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/20/health/covid-children-vaccine-pfizer.html

FDA says children, ages 5-11 can take Pfizer's Covid vaccine in low doses.

I also can't imagine being dumb enough to give a child a Covid vaccine for which they are at virtually no risk. The idea of inoculating hundreds of millions of kids all over the world over a virus that poses almost no risk to them just so the adults can feel safe is paranoia and fear taken to another level. Being afraid of a small child, what a world we live in.

[BADecker]

Since the Covid virus hasn't been isolated - show us the report and the notebook and the video - nobody knows for sure what the vaxx exists for. People just don't think when they go out and get a vaxx for something that they know nothing about.

[Tash]

This scamdemic is done
President of Croatia
https://youtu.be/cXTGgup_Yto

[bakasabo]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/20/health/covid-children-vaccine-pfizer.html

FDA says children, ages 5-11 can take Pfizer's Covid vaccine in low doses.

I also can't imagine being dumb enough to give a child a Covid vaccine for which they are at virtually no risk. The idea of inoculating hundreds of millions of kids all over the world over a virus that poses almost no risk to them just so the adults can feel safe is paranoia and fear taken to another level. Being afraid of a small child, what a world we live in.

I might be paranoiac, but since at schools they start to run tests and kids get positive results, I can not agree with "virtually no risk".

I assume that this is just mass media making things worse or someone else, but here is how situation looks in my country. It was mentioned that children at the age younger than 12 years should not take vaccine. Now, when the school starts, they run daily/weekly tests. They dont take samples from nose, instead they all spit in a plastic can. In mass media it is mentioned, that almost every school class parallel has one student that is tested positive. Colleagues at work start to work from home because their kids got sick and has high temperature + cough. By looking from the side, someone can make a conclusion that new wave that infect only children has started.

P.S. I am against vaccinating kids. After I have taken second doze, I felt nearly completely destroyed for 2 days with almost 40°c temp. Dont want any kid to go through this.

[Natsuu]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/20/health/covid-children-vaccine-pfizer.html

FDA says children, ages 5-11 can take Pfizer's Covid vaccine in low doses.

I also can't imagine being dumb enough to give a child a Covid vaccine for which they are at virtually no risk. The idea of inoculating hundreds of millions of kids all over the world over a virus that poses almost no risk to them just so the adults can feel safe is paranoia and fear taken to another level. Being afraid of a small child, what a world we live in.

I might be paranoiac, but since at schools they start to run tests and kids get positive results, I can not agree with "virtually no risk".

I assume that this is just mass media making things worse or someone else, but here is how situation looks in my country. It was mentioned that children at the age younger than 12 years should not take vaccine. Now, when the school starts, they run daily/weekly tests. They dont take samples from nose, instead they all spit in a plastic can. In mass media it is mentioned, that almost every school class parallel has one student that is tested positive. Colleagues at work start to work from home because their kids got sick and has high temperature + cough. By looking from the side, someone can make a conclusion that new wave that infect only children has started.

P.S. I am against vaccinating kids. After I have taken second doze, I felt nearly completely destroyed for 2 days with almost 40°c temp. Dont want any kid to go through this.

In other words;

1. The Covid is not a joke
2. Kids can be infected by covid
3. Children has low immune system making them candidates to acquire major symptoms
4. Less research has been conducted for childrens with regards to covid so many unforeseen events may occur

Trust the experts everyone, they didn't study years of no sleep for nothing.

[Gyfts]

In other words;

1. The Covid is not a joke
2. Kids can be infected by covid
3. Children has low immune system making them candidates to acquire major symptoms
4. Less research has been conducted for childrens with regards to covid so many unforeseen events may occur

Trust the experts everyone, they didn't study years of no sleep for nothing.

Children are not overly susceptible to Covid, their immune systems are not part of the equation. The death rate over 1.5 years for Covid is lower than the flu for children, so tell me what the risk actually is? How far would you like to go, because if we are using the average flu season as a measure, there wasn't a lot of paranoia and fear dominating media headlines.

Less vaccination studies have been conducted on children too, but we have the data for child deaths pertaining to Covid, and the average kid has a higher chance of dying in a car wreck than dying from Covid.

And surely we do not strap helmets to children every time we take them for a car ride.

[franky1]

Children are not overly susceptible to Covid, their immune systems are not part of the equation. The death rate over 1.5 years for Covid is lower than the flu for children, so tell me what the risk actually is? How far would you like to go, because if we are using the average flu season as a measure, there wasn't a lot of paranoia and fear dominating media headlines.

Less vaccination studies have been conducted on children too, but we have the data for child deaths pertaining to Covid, and the average kid has a higher chance of dying in a car wreck than dying from Covid.

And surely we do not strap helmets to children every time we take them for a car ride.

for kids its not about death rate..
the understanding of vaccinating kids is more about preventing high viral load/spread.

meaning instead of kids still going school because they are fit enough, but then breathing on others in high load amounts to then pass it around. a vaccination lowers the viral load so less passes around and thus less then spreads around the community.

while you are concerned about say kids dying in car accidents. though the death rate is low, you have to understand this rate is low because they dont allow kids to drive until they are 16.
so there are actually restrictions to prevent death related to car accidents that you are not thinking about.

in this instance using your comparison. a vaccination is comparable to the driving permit age limit. not to save kids from dying. but to save other pedestrians and other road users from getting hit due to the actions of a kid

[Tash]

No shit
"reports from Israel suggest INCREASED RISK OF SEVERE DISEASE amongst those vaccinated early".
https://twitter.com/i/status/1440288590521516042

Apparently there is a damning report from a German Pathological institute on its way.


Dead after million cuts