Eredivisie 23/24 - discussion thread

[casperBGD]

We will see the race between them, of course, if Ajax is still unstable with coordination.

ajax has already recovered, look at their results from the last 2 games. they won and are at the top, of course they will be champions

Seem yes, I just compare Ajax with team on Champions League that got a big lost with the same team, Napoli.
~snip

one simply cannot compare Ajax in Dutch league and Ajax in CL, CL competition is fierce and Napoli would easily win Dutch championship, probably without a draw
nevertheless, AZ proved they do not have what it takes to be within top3, and Feyenoord seems as obvious choice for third spot, while PSV will chase Ajax till the end, doubtfully, Ajax will probably reach the finish line as first and take the title

[Ludmilla_rose1995]

one simply cannot compare Ajax in Dutch league and Ajax in CL, CL competition is fierce and Napoli would easily win Dutch championship, probably without a draw
nevertheless, AZ proved they do not have what it takes to be within top3, and Feyenoord seems as obvious choice for third spot, while PSV will chase Ajax till the end, doubtfully, Ajax will probably reach the finish line as first and take the title

ajax may still be a great team, hopefully with ten hag leaving the team, they will still dominate the dutch league. schreuder doesn't really have a good strategy for ajax, unlike ten hag, it's also proven in UCL, ajax performs badly. I personally still doubt whether ajax this season will defend its title in the Dutch league or even PSV or Feyenoord which again shifts the dominance of ajax. tomorrow ajax will face waalwijk, this is an opportunity for them to increase points.

[casperBGD]

Feyenoord is facing Fortuna today, and Ajax is playing away match against RKC
everything except their wins will be a big surprise, but odds for betting are way to small, even for goals, and those should not be taken for granted, since RKC is a tough team, and Feyenoord is not scoring more then 3 to often at home

Vittesse has a shitty season, fighting to avoid relegation at the moment, but win over Emmen should be a value pick

[shogun47]

Very successful weekend for Ajax Amsterdam without a doubt. They themselves brought home three points solidly and all the closest three contenders failed with Alkmaar closing that race for the weekend with a loss also.

Now there is a gap for the first time this season between the second and the first I believe and gaps in Eredivisie mean something. Ajax Amsterdam being ahead with four points can also play within a certain comfort zone as they can even afford to lose a game or perhaps two. Not to forget that PSV gave the game away against Groningen, which is a rather weak team and a must win game. Certainly a bit of a tipping point here in the Eredivisie for now. Everyone knows that they shouldn't let this snowball over the coming weeks and allow Ajax to distance themselves significantly. That would almost be decisive for the rest of the season.

[Koal-84]

Very successful weekend for Ajax Amsterdam without a doubt. They themselves brought home three points solidly and all the closest three contenders failed with Alkmaar closing that race for the weekend with a loss also.

An important round for Ajax, all other leaders have bounced this round only Ajax won their game confidently. PSV and AZ lost, but Feyenoord saved a draw.

Ajax now have 3 very difficult games ahead of them, first 2 Champions League games and then the game against PSV.

[BitcoinAccepted]

Ajax is the big winner this weekend. All competitors have suffered a significant loss of points and Ajax a simple victory. The PSV match in particular was bizarre. Of the 90 minutes, I think PSV was the better match for 85 minutes and should have scored a goal or 7 for sure. That's not how it went and Groningen was 3-0 in 5 minutes and 3-1 1 minute later. When they went into halftime with that score, there was still hope for PSV. The 3-2 fell in minute 75, then you also have time on the 3-3 or even 3-4. PSV wasted one chance after another and then you get the bill after 90 minutes. Feyenoord played weak and was unable to beat Fortuna Sittard at home, which is doing very well with their new trainer and striker Yilmaz.

[lixer]

Very successful weekend for Ajax Amsterdam without a doubt. They themselves brought home three points solidly and all the closest three contenders failed with Alkmaar closing that race for the weekend with a loss also.

An important round for Ajax, all other leaders have bounced this round only Ajax won their game confidently. PSV and AZ lost, but Feyenoord saved a draw.

Ajax now have 3 very difficult games ahead of them, first 2 Champions League games and then the game against PSV.

Ajax widening gape from second spot team PSV and now have lead of four points which is good after winning their match on road against Waalwijk and PSV have their third defeat of this season and all happening on road matches and with lost against Arsenal in UEFA Europa Cup this is fourth defeat which is not good indication for them because there are aiming for having spot in Champions League for this they have to improve performance and quality which give them better results in all conditions.

Feyenoord ended in a draw at home against Sittard which is also playing good and able to steal points against team like Feyenoord which is not third in league table with some points of PSV but goals difference is bringing them down hopefully they could be also better in coming days and AZ Alkmaar now dropped from top to fourth after losing second match in a row.

[Koal-84]

Ajax is the big winner this weekend. All competitors have suffered a significant loss of points and Ajax a simple victory. The PSV match in particular was bizarre. Of the 90 minutes, I think PSV was the better match for 85 minutes and should have scored a goal or 7 for sure. That's not how it went and Groningen was 3-0 in 5 minutes and 3-1 1 minute later. When they went into halftime with that score, there was still hope for PSV. The 3-2 fell in minute 75, then you also have time on the 3-3 or even 3-4. PSV wasted one chance after another and then you get the bill after 90 minutes. Feyenoord played weak and was unable to beat Fortuna Sittard at home, which is doing very well with their new trainer and striker Yilmaz.

Correct this round was Ajax's round, but PSV can make up the points in Ajax's next league game, only they have to win against Ajax for once. Only Ajax now have 2 very difficult Champions League games they have to win, is that the reason why Ajax don't play or postpone the next league game?

[Slow death]

We will see the race between them, of course, if Ajax is still unstable with coordination.

ajax has already recovered, look at their results from the last 2 games. they won and are at the top, of course they will be champions

Seem yes, I just compare Ajax with team on Champions League that got a big lost with the same team, Napoli.
~snip

one simply cannot compare Ajax in Dutch league and Ajax in CL, CL competition is fierce and Napoli would easily win Dutch championship, probably without a draw
nevertheless, AZ proved they do not have what it takes to be within top3, and Feyenoord seems as obvious choice for third spot, while PSV will chase Ajax till the end, doubtfully, Ajax will probably reach the finish line as first and take the title

the results of the last games show how sure I was that ajax will be champions without having many difficulties, PSV lost against groningen, honestly it even made me laugh a lot because groningen is a team that came to this game with consecutive defeats, but at the same time playing against PSV they won and still managed to score 4 goals, when you look at these numbers of goals and the position of groningen I can't stop laughing at PSV, honestly this PSV has no chance of being champion, they are a joke. about AZ, another team that made me laugh a lot, because they also lost against a team that wasn't very strong, ajax will be champions even if they don't try very hard

Correct this round was Ajax's round, but PSV can make up the points in Ajax's next league game, only they have to win against Ajax for once. Only Ajax now have 2 very difficult Champions League games they have to win, is that the reason why Ajax don't play or postpone the next league game?

ajax will play the two champions league games and only after playing the 2 champions league games will they play against PSV, but I believe that ajax will beat PSV, I just wouldn't bet on them in the champions league games, maybe they can even have a chance to win against the ranger and they can get a draw against liverpool that is not well in the premier league

[casperBGD]

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Ajax now have 3 very difficult games ahead of them, first 2 Champions League games and then the game against PSV.

these are CL games, but Ajax is almost certain for Europa league, so they will probably lack motivation for matches against Liverpool and Rangers
it would be highly unpredictable for them to win both, and for Liverpool to lose both matches in last two rounds

and Rangers showed nothing so far, so I do not think they can overcome Ajax

nevertheless, great round for them in Dutch league, all other contenders failed to win

[Koal-84]

these are CL games, but Ajax is almost certain for Europa league, so they will probably lack motivation for matches against Liverpool and Rangers
it would be highly unpredictable for them to win both, and for Liverpool to lose both matches in last two rounds

and Rangers showed nothing so far, so I do not think they can overcome Ajax

nevertheless, great round for them in Dutch league, all other contenders failed to win

That's true as you write but you shouldn't take the two games lightly, a qualification for the Champions League I also think is out of the question, but Rangers can still play themselves into 3rd place with a lucky run, it's not impossible. Just wait and see how motivated Liverpool are in the Champions League game, they have a game against Leeds 3 days later and they are as good as qualified for the Champions League, so nothing will go wrong.

[Ludmilla_rose1995]

Correct this round was Ajax's round, but PSV can make up the points in Ajax's next league game, only they have to win against Ajax for once. Only Ajax now have 2 very difficult Champions League games they have to win, is that the reason why Ajax don't play or postpone the next league game?

ajax will play the two champions league games and only after playing the 2 champions league games will they play against PSV, but I believe that ajax will beat PSV, I just wouldn't bet on them in the champions league games, maybe they can even have a chance to win against the ranger and they can get a draw against liverpool that is not well in the premier league

PSV will definitely find it difficult to beat ajax in the follow-up match next month, but ajax performance in the UCL is what I'm really worried about. ajax is currently in third place in group A, their chance to qualify for the next round is impossible, they have to face Liverpool (my prediction is that ajax will lose by a narrow score) and face rangers (this is definitely a match that can be won by ajax). In the UCL this season, ajax is not a strong team, but in the national league, they are still very strong.

[Pulsar77]

Ajax are just not like in the previous season when it comes to the Champions League. There is an obvious lack of concentration among the players and they are most likely to join the Europa League. I expect them to care about the Liverpool match actually because it is their last chance. They have to win that match. If they don't then I assume the manager would rotate the squad in the Rangers match. Hence they would be ready for facing PSV then because they wouldn't deal with any fatigue problem.

Ajax wouldn't care about winning the Europa League title also I guess. They would fully focus on the Eredivisie championship then. They are already 4 points ahead of PSV and this duel vs PSV is going to be very important for them.

[shogun47]

Correct this round was Ajax's round, but PSV can make up the points in Ajax's next league game, only they have to win against Ajax for once. Only Ajax now have 2 very difficult Champions League games they have to win, is that the reason why Ajax don't play or postpone the next league game?

ajax will play the two champions league games and only after playing the 2 champions league games will they play against PSV, but I believe that ajax will beat PSV, I just wouldn't bet on them in the champions league games, maybe they can even have a chance to win against the ranger and they can get a draw against liverpool that is not well in the premier league

PSV will definitely find it difficult to beat ajax in the follow-up match next month, but ajax performance in the UCL is what I'm really worried about. ajax is currently in third place in group A, their chance to qualify for the next round is impossible, they have to face Liverpool (my prediction is that ajax will lose by a narrow score) and face rangers (this is definitely a match that can be won by ajax). In the UCL this season, ajax is not a strong team, but in the national league, they are still very strong.

These games between the top three teams will be really important showdowns, and I don't expect Ajax to win those games like they do in many other games. The clash between PSV and Ajax is probably a quite close one. Not to mention how important it might potentially be when Ajax can even manage to extend their lead in the table by a bit. If they then meet each other it is almost like a first little final in the Eredivisie. Having a significant lead is so valuable especially in leagues where it is hardly expected that top teams lose games and that is definitely the case for this league.

[blue Snow]

Ajax wouldn't care about winning the Europa League title also I guess. They would fully focus on the Eredivisie championship then. They are already 4 points ahead of PSV and this duel vs PSV is going to be very important for them.

Seem, Ajax will not face any problem next when we look at PSV's performance in the last match. Cody Gakpo who has a top score and assists can't show his best performance when got a ball from the center, In fact, PSV has better ball possession, but can't stop the counterattack from Groningen. this weakness can be used by Ajax to widen different points.

[shogun47]

Ajax wouldn't care about winning the Europa League title also I guess. They would fully focus on the Eredivisie championship then. They are already 4 points ahead of PSV and this duel vs PSV is going to be very important for them.

Seem, Ajax will not face any problem next when we look at PSV's performance in the last match. Cody Gakpo who has a top score and assists can't show his best performance when got a ball from the center, In fact, PSV has better ball possession, but can't stop the counterattack from Groningen. this weakness can be used by Ajax to widen different points.

Saying that there is a decision yet is way too early I think, but as I mentioned before you can't lose games easily without getting punished hard by your contenders in the Eredivisie at the top of the table. Losing a game means a lot as the probability is quite low that Ajax Amsterdam will also lose some games. They might drop a point every couple of weeks, but they usually win their games.

PSV still has all chances though. It is not like everyday will go perfect for Ajax. But for now PSV can certainly not afford anymore losses against opponents that are not from the upper third of the table.

[BitcoinAccepted]

Ajax is suddenly 4 points ahead of the rest of the teams. Together with PSV they are a lot stronger than the rest. But we have seen strange things in the past, Ajax was also a whole lot of points ahead last season and that lead has almost completely evaporated. I think Ajax will become champions, but PSV did beat Arsenal in the Europa League tonight. 4 points is still easy to bridge. Twente is also having a good season and the relegation worries of a few years ago are a thing of the past. Sparta is also doing very well, last year they played at the bottom of the lowest teams for almost the entire year.

[dezoel]

Ajax is suddenly 4 points ahead of the rest of the teams. Together with PSV they are a lot stronger than the rest. But we have seen strange things in the past, Ajax was also a whole lot of points ahead last season and that lead has almost completely evaporated. I think Ajax will become champions, but PSV did beat Arsenal in the Europa League tonight. 4 points is still easy to bridge. Twente is also having a good season and the relegation worries of a few years ago are a thing of the past. Sparta is also doing very well, last year they played at the bottom of the lowest teams for almost the entire year.

Right now top five teams all in competition and have chance to going top because Ajax is having six points difference from Twente, and they are also doing good job even Ajax and PSV are superior in quality and squad strength.

But things are surely giving good favour to other teams are as well because they are doing good work for improving quality and having better results after few poor results now Feyenoord are also at their best and can give good challenge to both teams and AZ Alkmaar which was also on good touch now suddenly after losing two matches drop in league table but still capable of having fight back and improve their rank mostly things will be clear after world cup which team is going to stay at the top for title challenge.

[blue Snow]

PSV still has all chances though. It is not like everyday will go perfect for Ajax. But for now PSV can certainly not afford anymore losses against opponents that are not from the upper third of the table.

Yes, PSV still has many chances to beat Ajax, their competition is possible to continue in the Europa league also. After beating Arsenal 2-0 yesterday, PSV has a ticket to continue to the next round. I believe 1 of them will create an achievement between Eredivisie and Europa league, with the provision of a strong focus, they will make a surprise as champions, but if the squad still completes without moving or transferring to an outside club.

[S A KHAIR]

PSV still has all chances though. It is not like everyday will go perfect for Ajax. But for now PSV can certainly not afford anymore losses against opponents that are not from the upper third of the table.

Yes, PSV still has many chances to beat Ajax, their competition is possible to continue in the Europa league also. After beating Arsenal 2-0 yesterday, PSV has a ticket to continue to the next round. I believe 1 of them will create an achievement between Eredivisie and Europa league, with the provision of a strong focus, they will make a surprise as champions, but if the squad still completes without moving or transferring to an outside club.

Eredivisie's title looks more likely for Ajax to win. They are four points ahead of second-placed PSV in the points table. Ajax is a very strong team in Eredivisie. We don't see them drop points in very few matches. Closing the gap to four points will be very difficult for PSV. Ajax is still favorites to win the title as they continue to perform well.
PSV's aim is to focus more on the Europa League. Yesterday they played very well against Arsenal. If they can continue like this, they can qualify for the semi-finals.