Eredivisie 23/24 - discussion thread

[Ludmilla_rose1995]

congrats to Dutch teams, Feyenoord and PSV will continue in Europa league, AZ will continue in Conference league
only Ajax left CL, to join Europa league as well, will be a quality addition to the competition

with the drop of ajax to UEL, added to the tight competition between the Dutch teams there. Feyenoord and PSV performed very well at UEL, so I doubt that ajax will be able to compete with them at UEL, ajax's performance at UCL is very bad.

NEC managed to win 1-0 from Cambuur through a goal made by Schone in the 44th minute, Cambuur did not manage to get out of the relegation zone.

[Zackgeno96]

Sparta has really had a dream year so far. Were around 8th place and now seem to easily win at Vitesse with a 0-2 lead. It's only 5 minutes to play. Last year, Sparta actually played against relegation all the time, something that is actually unthinkable now. Tomorrow we have the top match Ajax - PSV on the program, with the note that the supporters of PSV are not allowed to join. They have been sanctioned. Ajax individually has more quality, but that doesn't count in these kinds of matches. I can remember that last year it was even 0-4 for the cup.

[LTU_btc]

Ajax - PSV today. Ajax ended their Champions league campaign this week, which despite wins against Rangers were disappointing. But they moving to Europa league. PSV doing much better in Europa league.Ajax is favoured by bookmakers, despite that PSV won last 2 games against them - Cup and Super Cup finals.
Teams from chasing group - Feyenoord, Twente and AZ also have games today. Maybe it's worth to put bet on AZ win, while single bets for Twente and Feyenoord isn't worth.

[Ludmilla_rose1995]

The final result of today's match

FC Emmen 1 vs 0 Fortuna Sittard
both teams played with almost equal strength but in the 58th minute, zivkovic managed to score a goal with an assist from veendorp.

Excelsior 0 vs 1 Heerenveen
excelsio almost scored a goal in the first half but luckily it didn't happen, Heerenveen won with a pretty hard fight.

Utrecht 2 vs 1 Groningen
groningen did dominate the match in the first half but in the second half they seemed to lose their defense and utrecht managed to score 2 goals in the second half.

just waiting for the final result between Feyenoord vs Volendam and ajax vs PSV.

[BitcoinAccepted]

PSV is currently leading 0-2 in the match against Ajax in Amsterdam. Ajax seems to have problems with PSV more often. I can remember that recently there was also a 0-4 result in favor of PSV. Ajax still has some time to change the score, but that will be a difficult job against this PSV. Ajax has not been in good shape for a while and the results lately have not been great. It is good for the tension that PSV wins this match, otherwise Ajax would be no less than 7 points ahead of Ajax.

[swogerino]

PSV took the lead of the Eredivisie after they win in Ajax home field.I didn't see it coming as in the last games Ajax have been winning by scoring 5,7 and 4 goals on each game showing a really perfect form.On the other side PSV had even a lost game against a weaker team and they lost 4-2 or something like that which for me shows they are not as consistent as Ajax.This year is one of those years where the top three PSV,Ajax and Feyeenoord will fight till the very end of the season for the title.I would love personally to see Feyeenord back on winning the title,I have only good memories from them,many won bets while PSV and Ajax have sometimes made me lose bets.

[LTU_btc]

Feyenoord had relatively easy win against Volendam 0:2, Twente ended game with G. A. Eagles 1:1. AZ dropped to 5th place after loss against Walwijk. It's their 3rd loss in 4 recent games.

PSV took the lead of the Eredivisie after they win in Ajax home field.I didn't see it coming as in the last games Ajax have been winning by scoring 5,7 and 4 goals on each game showing a really perfect form.On the other side PSV had even a lost game against a weaker team and they lost 4-2 or something like that which for me shows they are not as consistent as Ajax.This year is one of those years where the top three PSV,Ajax and Feyeenoord will fight till the very end of the season for the title.I would love personally to see Feyeenord back on winning the title,I have only good memories from them,many won bets while PSV and Ajax have sometimes made me lose bets.

If you look at things just in Eredivisie context, yeah, Ajax looked more stable, but as we saw in Champions league, they had nothing to offer against Napoli and Liverpool. Didn't saw whole 90 minutes of game, but from what I saw, Ajax had posession and attacked more, while PSV tried to play on counter attacks. That moment when they made score 0:2 and made Johan Cruyff Arena silent was strong.

[Minor Miner]

Ajax 1-2 PSV

PSV won 2-1 against Ajax. PSV needed 3 points in this match to stay in the title fight. And PSV players are successful in this match. But in this match, we saw the dominance of Ajax players. Ajax attacked a lot. PSV on the other hand was tactical in this match. They tried to counterattack and wanted to score from the counterattack. And in the 23rd minute of the first half, PSV took the lead with de Jong's goal. At the beginning of the second half, Gutierrez's goal led PSV 2-0. And Ajax never returned to the truck. Because PSV kept their defense strong. PSV will need to continue this streak if they want to win the title. If not, they will soon lose the top spot in the table.

[wiss19]

Ajax 1-2 PSV

PSV won 2-1 against Ajax. PSV needed 3 points in this match to stay in the title fight. And PSV players are successful in this match. But in this match, we saw the dominance of Ajax players. Ajax attacked a lot. PSV on the other hand was tactical in this match. They tried to counterattack and wanted to score from the counterattack. And in the 23rd minute of the first half, PSV took the lead with de Jong's goal. At the beginning of the second half, Gutierrez's goal led PSV 2-0. And Ajax never returned to the truck. Because PSV kept their defense strong. PSV will need to continue this streak if they want to win the title. If not, they will soon lose the top spot in the table.

As must win game for the visitors, and they have done good job specially in second half when Ajax done their best for coming level in score, but they fail and just have one goal which was not enough for them to have any positive end of this match now with this win PSV is leaders for few days on 10 November Ajax is going to have another match against Vitesse which will give them their top rank back and after this match we have last match before World Cup break after these things are going to be interesting as Feyenoord is also doing good job and trying to reduce gape which will be created good contest for the title between these three teams.

AZ Alkmaar which was leading the table now suddenly have poor form in last four matches they lost three which bring them down to fifth place with now they are going to face PSV in next match which is surely another test match for them if they want alive their hopes for good end of this season they have to do improve their performance.

[Ludmilla_rose1995]

feyenoord 2 vs 0 volendam
brilliant performances from danilo and szymanski put feyenoord ahead in the first half, and in the second half they made a lot of goal attempts but no other goals were added until the game was finished.

ajax 1 vs 2 PSV
ajax's performance in this match was actually very good and dominant, only PSV had an effective attack against ajax. de jong and Gutierrez help PSV bring home the win.

[Koal-84]

feyenoord 2 vs 0 volendam
brilliant performances from danilo and szymanski put feyenoord ahead in the first half, and in the second half they made a lot of goal attempts but no other goals were added until the game was finished.

ajax 1 vs 2 PSV
ajax's performance in this match was actually very good and dominant, only PSV had an effective attack against ajax. de jong and Gutierrez help PSV bring home the win.

A somewhat surprising but not entirely undeserved victory for PSV over Ajax. Ajax was better according to the statistics (possession, etc.) but PSV simply had the better chance and also use this. So not completely undeserved, should Ajax and Feyenoord now win their supplementary games, it could become a three-way fight, as it seems that AZ and Twente are losing the connection a bit.

[Slow death]

this defeat of ajax was something unexpected for me, i was very convinced that ajax would win this game without having too many difficulties, but i am surprised by this result, PSV with this victory have a good chance of being champions if they maintain good consistency in each game and avoid a lot of mistakes and loss of points, ajax has the advantage that they hardly lose points when playing against other teams, but PSV has disadvantage that they lose points when playing against other teams. I hope that this season PSV can win the league

[Ludmilla_rose1995]

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A somewhat surprising but not entirely undeserved victory for PSV over Ajax. Ajax was better according to the statistics (possession, etc.) but PSV simply had the better chance and also use this. So not completely undeserved, should Ajax and Feyenoord now win their supplementary games, it could become a three-way fight, as it seems that AZ and Twente are losing the connection a bit.

the competition in the top 5 is very tight and interesting imo. each team has only a small difference in points. next week PSV will face Alkmaar and Twente will face Rotterdam. if PSV loses this match then ajax or Feyenoord will shift their position. ajax will face Emmen and Feyenoord against excelsior and this is sure to be an easy match for ajax and Feyenoord.

[Koal-84]

the competition in the top 5 is very tight and interesting imo. each team has only a small difference in points. next week PSV will face Alkmaar and Twente will face Rotterdam. if PSV loses this match then ajax or Feyenoord will shift their position. ajax will face Emmen and Feyenoord against excelsior and this is sure to be an easy match for ajax and Feyenoord.

I think AZ and Twente will not be able to keep up the performance of the top 3, I am also curious about Feyenoord, but I hope they can fight for the title until the end of the season for the sake of suspense. I also have to be honest and say that it's a good thing that Ajax gave away a lot of key players in the summer, otherwise it would have been a rather boring season this year. I don't think that the other teams have gained so much quality, but that Ajax has lost some quality with the departures.

[casperBGD]

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I think AZ and Twente will not be able to keep up the performance of the top 3

AZ and Twente are not same class as Feyenoord, and Ajax, PSV are class above Feyenoord at the moment
have to say that PSV win is somewhat surprising, but it brings competition back to Dutch league, with a win Ajax would gone a bit too far from competitors

nevertheless, AZ is playing good in Europe as well, and they will probably secure position 4 in the end

[blue Snow]

I think AZ and Twente will not be able to keep up the performance of the top 3

AZ and Twente are not same class as Feyenoord, and Ajax, PSV are class above Feyenoord at the moment

AZ looks to lose confidence when meet Waalwijk where not enough better than AZ. I don't know what happens to the team after fast goal Jesper in minute 9 next, that goal should be motivated to create more and more goal. but they won't able, seem like frustrate maybe because Waalwijk uses 5 defender on the same time. That perfect posse ever seen when they able also to counterattack AZ defender.

[Koal-84]

AZ and Twente are not same class as Feyenoord, and Ajax, PSV are class above Feyenoord at the moment
have to say that PSV win is somewhat surprising, but it brings competition back to Dutch league, with a win Ajax would gone a bit too far from competitors

nevertheless, AZ is playing good in Europe as well, and they will probably secure position 4 in the end

I think for us the current performance of Feyenoord, AZ and Twente is all surprising, but we've already had the theme from a few pages that the 3 probably can't keep up the pace of PSV and Ajax in the long run.

For the tension it is very good that Ajax has lost some quality, but there is enough money at Ajax to upgrade here and there in the winter. For Feyenoord, I hope they can still keep up with PSV and Ajax in the spring.

[Koal-84]

Vitesse is defending very well, Ajax is the better team but still lacks at least one goal.

Would be the next very surprising result from Ajax in a short time, but Ajax still has 15 minutes and Ajax is always good for a goal, whether Ajax can still turn the game around and win is rather difficult.

Exit:

Ajax have now equalised with 10 minutes left.

[Zackgeno96]

Ajax played 2-2 against Vitesse and Ajax also played at home. They were even 1-2 behind. Ajax is hopelessly out of shape, I think the cause lies with the trainer who does not let his team function properly. I fear for him that it will soon be the end of the story. If they had won against PSV they would have been 7 points ahead, now they are 2nd and they even have 1 point less than PSV. PSV is currently much stronger than Ajax, which has completely lost its way. I wonder when Ajax's management will intervene before the title battle has been decided soon.

[Koal-84]

Ajax played 2-2 against Vitesse and Ajax also played at home. They were even 1-2 behind. Ajax is hopelessly out of shape, I think the cause lies with the trainer who does not let his team function properly. I fear for him that it will soon be the end of the story. If they had won against PSV they would have been 7 points ahead, now they are 2nd and they even have 1 point less than PSV. PSV is currently much stronger than Ajax, which has completely lost its way. I wonder when Ajax's management will intervene before the title battle has been decided soon.

In any case, PSV is on a par with Ajax at the moment, I think it's also due to Ajax's last-minute departures in the summer, when Ajax was able to earn a lot of money but couldn't react. I assume that Ajax will make one or two purchases in the winter, especially in defence (where Ajax was very strong last year), and possibly also in attack. So i think the management will act.

Today Feyenoord should win and then everything will slide together again .