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First of all, if you want to complain, you must always provide proof, e.g., date, chat screenshot, bet slip, etc. Just like we don't trust casinos at face value, we don't trust users who complain at face value as well, especially from users whose post history is only about problems on casinos. That's not normal.
@BK8.Official kindly provide a detailed explanation about what this case is, so we can hear from both sides.
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November 28, 2023, 12:45:02 PM |
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First of all, if you want to complain, you must always provide proof, e.g., date, chat screenshot, bet slip, etc. Just like we don't trust casinos at face value, we don't trust users who complain at face value as well, especially from users whose post history is only about problems on casinos. That's not normal.
@BK8.Official kindly provide a detailed explanation about what this case is, so we can hear from both sides.
The facts are here. Their site states that the OTP can be received by email or by phone but their official Telegram customer service told me "Not in all the cases". So, I'm being targeted. On chat BK8 told me that they accept players from all the world as you can see from the screenshots, but they have to find a Malaysian number to receive otp. I found one, there are many sites that provides this kind of service, and provided them the number, but BK8 (only for me) want a screenshot of the credit of the same number. I can't provide that for sure. I wonder how many of their customers have been asked that?!.... So I have to conclude that this site is doing everything in order to keep me awat of my money. I have exactly 481 usd on BK8. Ther rules are different for me alone. https://imgur.com/a/k2zlGso
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November 28, 2023, 10:52:43 PM |
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Hello vitsport
I have forwarded to our team, we will resolve your issue Please be patient.
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I have been pacient but in fact your site just offered only the deposits and not around 300 usd of winnings. I'm not interested in that because I feel betrayed and targeted. You have just closed my account and kept the money. Big Bravo to BK8... The official representative have already addressed you that your case has been forwarded to the right area in which What i do believe is to wait for while till the team addressed your case here, it wont hurt you to wait a little more and extend your complaining if you are not contented to what is the result , but for now better to wait it up . This is a normal practice for them. They close the account, steal the money and that. They don't respond to mediators. This applies to all sites that use this provider. They are on the grab and run pattern. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) well this happens in some scam site and we cannot deny that fact , but I think about the issue filed here? can be resolved or at least will have a proper answer from the team sooner and like what said , a little wait wont hurt everyone .
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November 29, 2023, 03:42:29 AM |
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I don't see what they told you. They accept all around the world, there are some restrictions countries. You can check on the terms & condition, if not wrong BK8 have a different website/mirror link and the website depends on which country. Example for UK player, there has some specifiq website for UK because of their policy.
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November 29, 2023, 05:26:59 AM |
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Good day, everyone,
Upon review with our team, the decision to block user withdrawals stems from the following reasons: 1. Multiple accounts: The user's initial account was suspended in April 2023. 2. Engagement in arbitrage betting using both the first and subsequent accounts.
Contrary to the user's statement, the withholding of withdrawals is not related to OTP/phone number authentication.
Here is the chronological sequence of events: The user initially registered their account under the username "elonam," which was flagged by the sportsbook provider BTI due to arbitrage activity —deemed high risk— leading to the suspension of the account in April 2023. The official reason for the suspension was abnormal betting behavior identified by BTI. Despite this, the user managed to withdraw all funds.
Subsequently, the same user who successfully attempted to withdraw funds from BK8, re-register using the username "elonushe". However, shortly after placing bets, the provider flagged the account again for the same reason. As a result, the winnings were voided due to the breach of both BK8's and the provider's Terms of Service.
In the end, BK8 is willing to refund the player's deposit, totaling MYR 549.21. However, the user refuses to accept this refund and insists on being paid in full, including the voided bet amount.
Evidence supporting these actions includes: 1. KYC documents from both accounts, which, due to confidentiality policies, cannot be shared. 2. Notification/flagging emails from BTI, available for review by trusted third parties. 3. Chat records, are also open for review by trusted third parties.
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November 29, 2023, 06:04:07 AM |
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Good day, everyone,
Evidence supporting these actions includes: 1. KYC documents from both accounts, which, due to confidentiality policies, cannot be shared. 2. Notification/flagging emails from BTI, available for review by trusted third parties. 3. Chat records, are also open for review by trusted third parties.
Make sense now , as the team willing to show the records of chat and Flagging emails from BTI with all of those I think that now the accuser must show also concrete proof to detract this proofs from the team , if all have been serve then this shows transparency from the side of the team. and offering to send back the deposit amount knowing that you are guilty of something breaking the rules is enough to consider .
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November 29, 2023, 07:34:36 AM |
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No wonder. I always think any issue is always on (sportsbook) user. It's always based on how the activity: - Multi account - Try to avoided a limit casino, by multi account - Arbitrage
At least BK8 have some policy to return the initial deposit, in other casino they have a worst things (not refunded anything and just closed or blocked user account without any refund).
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November 29, 2023, 05:17:06 PM |
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Upon review with our team, the decision to block user withdrawals stems from the following reasons: 1. Multiple accounts: The user's initial account was suspended in April 2023.
If this is the truth, then the statement from the user who said he had just registered is a lie who is that idiot that keep screenshots of the chats before even registering? I was curious about BK8 and I registered weeks later.
2. Notification/flagging emails from BTI, available for review by trusted third parties. 3. Chat records, are also open for review by trusted third parties.
Most platforms do not provide proof from the Provider as it is an NDA. This weakness is exploited by cheating players to complain on forums, but if BK8 can provide this proof to the 3rd party (DT or Moderator) on the forum that can be trusted then that is a good way to resolve the problem.
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I believe what happened here is that the casino blocked the user's withdrawal (due to an arbitrage flag, as mentioned), pushing the user to submit their KYC and bam! All the facts, including the previous ones, were revealed! If there were no shady activities involved, BK8 wouldn't complicate matters, even regarding withdrawals IMO. This also explains why the user in question faked his/her phone number... At least BK8 have some policy to return the initial deposit, in other casino they have a worst things (not refunded anything and just closed or blocked user account without any refund).
True, the policy is too lenient for abusers, but at the same time, they don't want to "steal" the user's deposits, even though it's just a marginal thing.
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First of all, if you want to complain, you must always provide proof, e.g., date, chat screenshot, bet slip, etc. Just like we don't trust casinos at face value, we don't trust users who complain at face value as well, especially from users whose post history is only about problems on casinos. That's not normal.
@BK8.Official kindly provide a detailed explanation about what this case is, so we can hear from both sides.
And what is the problem of reporting issues of bookmakers, which are listed here? How can it affect the fact of excess of authority by closing acccounts and deleting the winnings unilaterally? That should be none of your business, in which threads the user shows his activity. That thread starting to look like ole7 thread, which had the same engine and absolutely same problems. Those bookies will only be glad to users who loose, and those minors who win are just getting eliminated or robbed. Shame on you man for the answer you provided as official person of this site.
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November 30, 2023, 09:16:57 AM |
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Shame on you man for the answer you provided as official person of this site.
I'm officially representing myself, my own opinion, not on behalf of any parties. But how come you see me as the "official person of this site" ?! I'm merely asking for the complainer to publish the proof and context, as this is also the informal rule in this community. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260073.0And what is the problem of reporting issues of bookmakers, which are listed here? How can it affect the fact of excess of authority by closing acccounts and deleting the winnings unilaterally? That should be none of your business, in which threads the user shows his activity.
People who make their comments public and seek public support should accept public criticism as well. I count at least four gamblers (including myself) who comment on this page alone, and none of them have serious problems with BK8. And then, newbies accounts with multiple accusations on various casinos start making an accusation without proof. Whose opinion do you think I would take more seriously? You should be glad that people here pressing the BK8 official rep to give an explanation, even making them willing to disclose records for the mediator.
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December 02, 2023, 11:39:30 AM |
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In the end, BK8 is willing to refund the player's deposit, totaling MYR 549.21. However, the user refuses to accept this refund and insists on being paid in full, including the voided bet amount.
This is a better ending and decision rather than confiscating or freezing the fund. I guess this is a standard operation for most casinos and so for BK8 and the user should just accept the consequence which was a good one on his end since he's got caught. You're in their platform and they've got evidence to what's been investigated so, if he don't want to accept the refund, there's nothing much to do on it until he changes his mind.
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December 02, 2023, 12:45:08 PM |
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First of all, if you want to complain, you must always provide proof, e.g., date, chat screenshot, bet slip, etc. Just like we don't trust casinos at face value, we don't trust users who complain at face value as well, especially from users whose post history is only about problems on casinos. That's not normal.
@BK8.Official kindly provide a detailed explanation about what this case is, so we can hear from both sides.
And what is the problem of reporting issues of bookmakers, which are listed here? How can it affect the fact of excess of authority by closing acccounts and deleting the winnings unilaterally? That should be none of your business, in which threads the user shows his activity. That thread starting to look like ole7 thread, which had the same engine and absolutely same problems. Those bookies will only be glad to users who loose, and those minors who win are just getting eliminated or robbed. Shame on you man for the answer you provided as official person of this site. This is true, but the number of literate players in this forum is less than 1 percent.from a legal point of view, the user has the right to make arbitrage or whatever bets he wants. and in this case the site should be sanctioned at least with a fine, but no one. these sites exist in nothing.
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December 06, 2023, 11:25:20 AM |
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I just checked the lucky wheel on BK8, and i see the rewards for the lucky wheel seem to be getting more challenging. because I see that currently very few people are getting IDR5. However, the prize that most members often get is 20 activity points. If someone wants to pin, don't be surprised if you get activity points instead of IDR 5.
Do you think this lucky wheel will end this December and there will be no promotion extension? Or is the promotion still continuing, but the majority of prizes are activity points like current rewards?
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Yes, it's boring now for the wheels game. They change it to (Point) meanwhile is already hard to get comparing the first time they launch. Not really see on the recent win people are win some cash or special prize, in the begining i see a lot. I think is gonna to keep continue, it's just like promotion to keep player playing.
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masulum
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December 07, 2023, 01:14:40 PM |
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Yes, it's boring now for the wheels game.
They change it to (Point) meanwhile is already hard to get comparing the first time they launch. Not really see on the recent win people are win some cash or special prize, in the begining i see a lot.
It seems like our complaints have a response from the team, if you look at the current activity, the majority of winners have returned to IDR5, so at least this can be another chance for players to play again, even if it's only a bet of IDR200. If we are lucky, we can still win with this prize. I remember after I won the raffle, I deposited into my account, and claimed every day, there was one time from just IDR5, I could withdraw 200K. Unfortunately the local raffle is not very popular and the campaign is no longer available. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I think is gonna to keep continue, it's just like promotion to keep player playing. Sounds good for active members if this campaign available for a long time.
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ryzaadit
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December 07, 2023, 10:37:30 PM |
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Well. I hope they remove these (Point) things from (wheels). It's just really annoying from me, better with the old wheels while we see all-prize even is only 5 IDR. Imagine, you're spining by collecting points from deposit and cost 50 Point/1 Spin. Then you got (20-Point) sound like annoying for me.
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masulum
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hmph..
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December 08, 2023, 10:46:09 AM |
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Well. I hope they remove these (Point) things from (wheels).
It's just really annoying from me, better with the old wheels while we see all-prize even is only 5 IDR. Imagine, you're spining by collecting points from deposit and cost 50 Point/1 Spin.
Then you got (20-Point) sound like annoying for me.
it would be better if team removed points from Wheels, at least we will get any prize from here, even 99,99% we will only get IDR5. I have an idea, how if each bet gets points, but it may be made based on the bet made by players. For example, if we bet with IDR200, then each bet will get 0.2 activity points. Or it can be based on the number of bets, for every 10x bet you will get 1 point. So players who are very active in playing will get prizes with spins. Of course maybe only get IDR5 for most of them, at least it can attract more people to play, so they get a chance for another spins not just from deposits.
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panjul07
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December 08, 2023, 02:17:58 PM |
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it would be better if team removed points from Wheels, at least we will get any prize from here, even 99,99% we will only get IDR5. I have an idea, how if each bet gets points, but it may be made based on the bet made by players. For example, if we bet with IDR200, then each bet will get 0.2 activity points. Or it can be based on the number of bets, for every 10x bet you will get 1 point. So players who are very active in playing will get prizes with spins. Of course maybe only get IDR5 for most of them, at least it can attract more people to play, so they get a chance for another spins not just from deposits. Honestly, this is the first time I heard about activity points in bk8 so I dont really understand what is it and what is the benefits of this activity points. Is it points that can be collected only from the wheels or there are some other ways to earn this points, then is this activity point something that can be converted into real money? Is there a separate page in bk8 where we can read the information related to this activity points?
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December 09, 2023, 03:21:01 PM |
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it would be better if team removed points from Wheels, at least we will get any prize from here, even 99,99% we will only get IDR5. I have an idea, how if each bet gets points, but it may be made based on the bet made by players. For example, if we bet with IDR200, then each bet will get 0.2 activity points. Or it can be based on the number of bets, for every 10x bet you will get 1 point. So players who are very active in playing will get prizes with spins. Of course maybe only get IDR5 for most of them, at least it can attract more people to play, so they get a chance for another spins not just from deposits. Honestly, this is the first time I heard about activity points in bk8 so I dont really understand what is it and what is the benefits of this activity points. Is it points that can be collected only from the wheels or there are some other ways to earn this points, then is this activity point something that can be converted into real money? Is there a separate page in bk8 where we can read the information related to this activity points? as far as I'm concerned only 1 point can be earned in 24 hours (1 time in 1 day) to get points you must deposit at least 100k IDR in a week to qualify, you can read it at the bottom of the spin
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