[Table] Withdrawal Fees and Withdrawal Amounts on Crypto Casinos

[Pmalek]

Update:

I have removed Chips.gg from the table. The casino operates without a casino license, and I have seen information that points towards Chips.gg locking player accounts to prevent winning players from cashing out. Read the scam accusation below for more information. The evidence isn't public but can be found on 3rd-party sites for those who know where to look. Don't say anything more on that subject please!

How I got scammed by chips.gg with insane proof from their employee

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[3kpk3]

@Pmalek I advise adding some of the most popular betting brokers to the list such as Betinasia, AsianConnect, Vodds, Sportmarket etc since they support multiple crypto payment methods and are pretty useful to many punters.

They are especially useful for American citizens who are usually banned by most crypto gambling sites.

[Pmalek]

@Pmalek I advise adding some of the most popular betting brokers to the list such as Betinasia, AsianConnect, Vodds, Sportmarket etc since they support multiple crypto payment methods and are pretty useful to many punters.

They are especially useful for American citizens who are usually banned by most crypto gambling sites.

While all that may be true, I will not add any online casino unless they have an announcement thread here and are somewhat active on the forum. Potential players should be able to browse Bitcointalk and research the casinos' reputation, thoughts of other players, concerns, etc. Also, the forum's feedback system can be useful for such checks.

[panjul07]

Update from Fortunejack, they have lowered the minimum withdrawal from $150 to $50.

The minimum withdrawal limit has been lowered from $150 to $50, and cashing out your wins is now 3x easier at FortuneJack.

As the consequence, withdrawal fee is charged for withdrawal between $50-$150, fixed $4 fee for btc & eth and $1 for other currencies.
While withdrawal above $150 is still free of withdrawal fee.

[Pmalek]

Update from Fortunejack, they have lowered the minimum withdrawal from $150 to $50.

As the consequence, withdrawal fee is charged for withdrawal between $50-$150, fixed $4 fee for btc & eth and $1 for other currencies.
While withdrawal above $150 is still free of withdrawal fee.

Thanks for the update. The $150 minimum was quite high, which put FortuneJack on the list of crypto casinos with the highest minimum withdrawal amounts. The $50 looks much better now, and puts them further down on the list. Too bad that all withdrawals aren't free of charge, but I understand their decision, especially now when the network fees are crazy high. 

I have read their blog post they linked to in their ANN, but it doesn't explain properly the fixed fee rates you mentioned. I will have to log into my account tomorrow and check it myself just to be 100% sure.

[panjul07]

Update from Fortunejack, they have lowered the minimum withdrawal from $150 to $50.

As the consequence, withdrawal fee is charged for withdrawal between $50-$150, fixed $4 fee for btc & eth and $1 for other currencies.
While withdrawal above $150 is still free of withdrawal fee.

Thanks for the update. The $150 minimum was quite high, which put FortuneJack on the list of crypto casinos with the highest minimum withdrawal amounts. The $50 looks much better now, and puts them further down on the list. Too bad that all withdrawals aren't free of charge, but I understand their decision, especially now when the network fees are crazy high. 

I have read their blog post they linked to in their ANN, but it doesn't explain properly the fixed fee rates you mentioned. I will have to log into my account tomorrow and check it myself just to be 100% sure.

I'm pretty sure that previously I read about fixed fee for btc and eth in their blog, unfortunately I did not quote it or did not take a screenshot.
Just visited the blog again and I see that it is not the same as what I read earlier, seems to be updated already as btc and eth are no longer mentioned in the blog post. 
Not a significant change IMO, the fee is still in the range of $1-$4 depending on the coin to withdraw.

[delfastTions]

@Pmalek I advise adding some of the most popular betting brokers to the list such as Betinasia, AsianConnect, Vodds, Sportmarket etc since they support multiple crypto payment methods and are pretty useful to many punters.

They are especially useful for American citizens who are usually banned by most crypto gambling sites.

While all that may be true, I will not add any online casino unless they have an announcement thread here and are somewhat active on the forum. Potential players should be able to browse Bitcointalk and research the casinos' reputation, thoughts of other players, concerns, etc. Also, the forum's feedback system can be useful for such checks.

This is what makes your table and this topic itself very valuable for users of our forum.  Indeed, players can always clarify some of the nuances of withdrawing money to their account in the casino’s profile topic here in the Gambling section. 
I understand perfectly well how much effort and time you spend on updating this data. 
And it is even more likely that the period of insane commissions and a huge mempool in the Bitcoin network made serious adjustments to these commission data.  Of course you are an expert in these matters, I have no doubt.  But maybe, based on your observations, you can note several casinos that actively change their data in such extreme situations as the latest events related to Ordinals.  These changes may partially and indirectly signal to players about the decreasing reliability of such casinos.
 I think this information would be useful to many players.

[Pmalek]

But maybe, based on your observations, you can note several casinos that actively change their data in such extreme situations as the latest events related to Ordinals.  These changes may partially and indirectly signal to players about the decreasing reliability of such casinos.
 I think this information would be useful to many players.

My last complete check of all the numbers in the table dates back to the end of August. The Ordinals inscriptions were already causing problems back then and it's still ongoing as we all can see. Honestly, I have never thought about which particular casinos make regular changes to their withdrawal fees, for instance. Many crypto casinos have dynamic withdrawal fees, so the numbers change all the time. Obviously, those with fixed sums don't make changes as often. 

[delfastTions]

But maybe, based on your observations, you can note several casinos that actively change their data in such extreme situations as the latest events related to Ordinals.  These changes may partially and indirectly signal to players about the decreasing reliability of such casinos.
 I think this information would be useful to many players.

My last complete check of all the numbers in the table dates back to the end of August. The Ordinals inscriptions were already causing problems back then and it's still ongoing as we all can see. Honestly, I have never thought about which particular casinos make regular changes to their withdrawal fees, for instance. Many crypto casinos have dynamic withdrawal fees, so the numbers change all the time. Obviously, those with fixed sums don't make changes as often. 

It seems to me that after this story with Ordinals, many casino managers will begin to think about whether it is worth leaving the option of paying deposits and, accordingly, winnings in bitcoins at all.
 If we are talking about payments that the player needs to make quickly, then such a state of the BTC mempool and such large commissions automatically cut off the ability of most players to make such transfers.  You will probably have to switch to other Altcoins where there are no such problems. 
This, in a sense, will of course redistribute payments in cryptocurrency towards coins that are much cheaper to maintain.  For example, Tron will win.

[3kpk3]

I might have missed some discussion related to this site in this thread, but I noticed that Nitrobetting isn't part of your list which is odd considering how long they have been around in the crypto sportsbetting realm.

Anyway, they added an extra 0.5 mBtc withdrawal fee for BTC withdrawals thanks to Ordinals crap recently. They also mentioned that they will be adding a LTC withdrawal option soon.

[Pmalek]

I might have missed some discussion related to this site in this thread, but I noticed that Nitrobetting isn't part of your list which is odd considering how long they have been around in the crypto sportsbetting realm.

NitroBetting and NitrogenSports have a bad reputation on Bitcointalk. It's a casino that is negatively tagged by several DT members for various issues. One of my rules is that I don't add casinos and sportsbooks with negative ratings and/or proven cases of scamming Bitcointalk members. So, the age of the platform isn't the reason why it's not on the list.

[shield132]

@Pmalek I advise adding some of the most popular betting brokers to the list such as Betinasia, AsianConnect, Vodds, Sportmarket etc since they support multiple crypto payment methods and are pretty useful to many punters.

They are especially useful for American citizens who are usually banned by most crypto gambling sites.

I think it's a good approach to only add casinos that have announcement threads on Bitcointalk and are active on this forum. The huge benefit of this community is that when something bad happens and someone opens a valid scam accusation thread, we are here to help to push casinos to pay their customer. Also, we can leave negative or positive trust feedback on accounts that represent casinos on this forum. We can't do anything on those who don't promote themselves on this forum and it's not our duty to dig to find them. If they want, you'll come here.

I might have missed some discussion related to this site in this thread, but I noticed that Nitrobetting isn't part of your list which is odd considering how long they have been around in the crypto sportsbetting realm.

NitroBetting and NitrogenSports have a bad reputation on Bitcointalk. It's a casino that is negatively tagged by several DT members for various issues. One of my rules is that I don't add casinos and sportsbooks with negative ratings and/or proven cases of scamming Bitcointalk members. So, the age of the platform isn't the reason why it's not on the list.

Your list is very good. By the way what about new crypto casinos? What are the requirements that they need to fulfil in order to get included in your list?

[Pmalek]

By the way what about new crypto casinos? What are the requirements that they need to fulfil in order to get included in your list?

There are no special requirements. I don't consider new casinos for this list. They must have been around and live for at least a couple of months with no proven records of scams against forum members. Having said that, I am aware that there are many platforms that are missing and could be added to extend the collection. I will consider adding some new names after the holidays. Many users have mentioned several brands they think should be added. So, I will look into those requests first.

[3kpk3]

NitroBetting and NitrogenSports have a bad reputation on Bitcointalk. It's a casino that is negatively tagged by several DT members for various issues. One of my rules is that I don't add casinos and sportsbooks with negative ratings and/or proven cases of scamming Bitcointalk members. So, the age of the platform isn't the reason why it's not on the list.

Interesting. NitrogenSports does have negative feedback and they did engage in some shady shit back in the day, but they seemed to have changed quite a bit after transforming into Nitrobetting which has zero negative feedback currently.

It's understandable why they aren't on your list though I feel like they should be given a second chance thanks to their transformation. Just my 2 cents!

[Pmalek]

Interesting. NitrogenSports does have negative feedback and they did engage in some shady shit back in the day, but they seemed to have changed quite a bit after transforming into Nitrobetting which has zero negative feedback currently.

It's understandable why they aren't on your list though I feel like they should be given a second chance thanks to their transformation. Just my 2 cents!

I appreciate the feedback. However, it's still the same brand but with a slightly different name. NitrogenSports having shady practices and renaming into Nitrobetting or having a sister casino with a different name would be like you scamming people on this forum, and then coming back calling yourself 4kpk4. You are still the same person that was involved in what you shouldn't have been in the past.

Besides, I am not sure what kind of userbase they have here. I can't remember the last time I have heard anyone say they are gambling on Nitrobetting, and I don't see recommendations for their platform among players here.   

[Rating Place]

Interesting. NitrogenSports does have negative feedback and they did engage in some shady shit back in the day, but they seemed to have changed quite a bit after transforming into Nitrobetting which has zero negative feedback currently.

It's understandable why they aren't on your list though I feel like they should be given a second chance thanks to their transformation. Just my 2 cents!

I appreciate the feedback. However, it's still the same brand but with a slightly different name. NitrogenSports having shady practices and renaming into Nitrobetting or having a sister casino with a different name would be like you scamming people on this forum, and then coming back calling yourself 4kpk4. You are still the same person that was involved in what you shouldn't have been in the past.

Besides, I am not sure what kind of userbase they have here. I can't remember the last time I have heard anyone say they are gambling on Nitrobetting, and I don't see recommendations for their platform among players here.    

I don't leave my thread much and we've talked somewhat about this before. I'm jumping in since the topic is brought up again. People keep repeating false things about Nitrobetting.  Respected posters play at Nitrobetting and they are semi-regulars in their ANN thread. There seems to be a smear campaign against Nitrobetting. Other books can get away with misdeeds because they get blind support. Bettors don't speak up about a book when they do things right. When a book is talked about, they are doing something wrong.

Haunebu is a hero member. He plays at Nitrobetting and was in their ANN thread Dec. 21. Ahoybrouse a SR. member was in the thread Dec. 20. 3kpk3 full member plays at Nitrobetting and was in the thread Dec. 22. ralle14 Legendary plays at Nitrobetting and I see him a lot in the thread.

Scam accusations from January 1, 2023 - December 22, 2023

Nitrobetting A+
0 accusations

Betcoin A+ .Betcoin does agree to binding 3rd party aribitration of player's choice.
Betcoin   6/17/2023   $7,700.00   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456682.0   Resolved
Betcoin   4/23/2023   $1,000.00   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5449900.0   Resolved
Betcoin   4/21/2023   .213 BTC   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5449749.0   Arbitration Offered
Betcoin   2/5/2023   $20,000.00   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5438132.0 Resolved thepogg
Betcoin   2/26/2023   ?   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5441329.0   Resolved
Betcoin   2/14/2023   $15,000.00   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5439834.0   Resolved

mBet A-
0 accusations

Stake B
Stake   12/18/2023   ?   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5478418.0
Stake   11/21/2023   $12,500.00  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5474855.0
Stake   9/28/2023  ?     https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468477.0
Stake   9/14/2023   $20,000.00   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5466839.0   
Stake   9/11/2023   $100,000.00   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5466400.0   
Stake   9/8/2023   ?   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5466109.0   Resolved
Stake   9/4/2023   $541.00   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5465677.0   Resolved
Stake   8/11/2023   ?   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5462873.0   Resolved
Stake   8/1/2023   ?   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5461706.0   
Stake   7/24/2023   $75.00   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5460913.0   Resolved
Stake   7/7/2023   ?   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5458920.0   
Stake   7/4/2023   10500 XRP   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5458557.0   
Stake   7/3/2023   ?   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5458456.0   
Stake   6/2/2023   $2,000.00   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5454864.0   
Stake   5/15/23   ?   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5452766.0   
Stake   5/17/2023   0.14892000 BTC   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5453029.0   
Stake   10/11/2023   ?   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5416789.0   
Stake   4/14/2023   ?   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5448883.0   
Stake   2/21/2023   $165,000.00   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5440739.0   
Stake   1/4/2023   ?   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5433046.0   

Bitsler B-
Bitsler   9/19/2023   ?   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5360813.0   

FortuneJack B-
Fortunejack   12/18/2023   ?   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5478417.0
Fortunejack   11/3/2023    $1500.00   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5472748.0
Fortunejack   9/14/2023   $279.60   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5466779.0   Resolved

Betfury C+
Betfury   1/19/2023   ?   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5406841.0   Resolved

Cloudbet C+
Cloudbet   9/10/2023   ?   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5466334.0   
Cloudbet   4/7/2023   1.6 ETH   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5447946.0   Resolved
Cloudbet   3/14/2023   ?   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5444821.0   

Roobet C+
0 accusations

Duelbits C
Duelbits   8/27/2023   ?   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5464671.0   
Duelbits   7/11/2023   $2,000.00   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5459388.0   Resolved
Duelbits   6/1/2023   $500,000.00    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5454703.0   Resolved
Duelbits   4/15/2023   $950.00   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5448936.0   Resolved
Duelbits   4/4/2023   $1,100.00   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5447135.0   
Duelbits   1/9/2023   ?   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5433623.0   

Sportsbet C
Sportsbet  12/3/2023   $14,500.00   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5476415.0
Sportsbet   11/5/2023  ?  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5472884.0 Resolved
Sportsbet    9/29/2023  $5,000  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468447.0
Sportsbet   9/13/2023   $250.00   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5466721.0   Resolved
Sportsbet   8/22/2023   38.32 LTC   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5464122.0   
Sportsbet   8/14/2023   $1,200.00   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5463240.0                   
Sportsbet   4/24/2023   $1,350.00   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5450006.0   Resolved
Sportsbet   3/23/2023   $5,500.00   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5446033.0   
Sportsbet   5/4/2023   ?   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5451223.0   
Sportsbet   4/3/2023   219 mBTC   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5447376.0   Resolved
Sportsbet   2/14/2023   $1,731.00   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5439809.0   
Sportsbet   3/8/2023   $1,700.00   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5443999.0   
Sportsbet   1/17/2023   $250.00   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5435667.0   
Sportsbet   1/5/2023   $6,472.00   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5433051.0   Resolved

MaverickGames C
Maverickgames   6/6/2023   $600.00   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5455433.0   
Maverickgames   6/8/2023   $2,000.00   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5455752.0   

Owl C
0 accusations


TrustDice C
Trustdice   6/18/2023   ?   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456716.0 Fairness is verifiable
Trustdice   3/10/2023   .075 BTC   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5444374.0 Resolved CasinoGuru


ParlayPlus C-
0 accusations

Wolf C-
Wolfbet   11/7/2023   $18.55   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5473231.0  Resolved

Rollbit D+
Rollbit   11/28/2023   $292.00   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5475823.0
Rollbit  11/5/2023  $22,000  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5472882.0
Rollbit  10/23/2023  ?  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5471380.0
Rollbit  10/4/2023 ? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5469212.0
Rollbit   8/31/2023   ?   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5465228.0   
Rollbit   8/21/2023   $30,211.00   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5463996.0   
Rollbit   6/29/2023   $410.00   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5458053.0   Resolved
Rollbit   4/19/2023   $10,200.00   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5449402.0   
Rollbit   6/25/2023   $4,000.00   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5457538.0   Reolved
Rollbit   5/25/2023   $5,000.00   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5454027.0   
Rollbit   4/8/2023   $920.00   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5448076.0   
Rollbit   4/6/2023   $255.00   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5447740.0   
Rollbit   4/3/2023   $350.00   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5447471.0   Resolved
Rollbit   3/7/2023   $12,800.00   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5443932.0   Resolved
Rollbit   2/23/2023   ?   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5441023.0   
Rollbit   2/21/23   $1,497.00   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5440636.0   
Rollbit   1/10/2023   ?   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5433691.0   
Rollbit   1/3/2023   $737.00   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5432854.0   

[3kpk3]

I appreciate the feedback. However, it's still the same brand but with a slightly different name. NitrogenSports having shady practices and renaming into Nitrobetting or having a sister casino with a different name would be like you scamming people on this forum, and then coming back calling yourself 4kpk4. You are still the same person that was involved in what you shouldn't have been in the past.

Besides, I am not sure what kind of userbase they have here. I can't remember the last time I have heard anyone say they are gambling on Nitrobetting, and I don't see recommendations for their platform among players here.   

Perfectly understandable. They weren't really great as NitrogenSports, but they are alright now after changing to Nitrobetting though they take way too long for withdrawals and their BTC withdrawal fee is horrendous.

The only good thing about their site is some really great odds in various markets from time to time though their limits are usually on the lower side.

[Rating Place]

I appreciate the feedback. However, it's still the same brand but with a slightly different name. NitrogenSports having shady practices and renaming into Nitrobetting or having a sister casino with a different name would be like you scamming people on this forum, and then coming back calling yourself 4kpk4. You are still the same person that was involved in what you shouldn't have been in the past.

Besides, I am not sure what kind of userbase they have here. I can't remember the last time I have heard anyone say they are gambling on Nitrobetting, and I don't see recommendations for their platform among players here.    

Perfectly understandable. They weren't really great as NitrogenSports, but they are alright now after changing to Nitrobetting though they take way too long for withdrawals and their BTC withdrawal fee is horrendous.

The only good thing about their site is some really great odds in various markets from time to time though their limits are usually on the lower side.

They are going to add LTC for withdrawals. They do need to bring back the max bet button.

There are 2 newbies in the last page of Nitrobetting's ANN thread complaining. One with 3 posts and the other with 2 posts. Then there are veteran posters Haunebu (2014), Ralle (2015) and 3kpk3 (2017) in the thread. The experienced guys should carry more weight considering those 3 veteran posters in the Nitrobetting thread. We all know and respect them.

[notblox1]

Is Bethash casino Minimum Withdrawal Amount correct or this is some mistake in the table?
Now it shows 0.02 BTC or 874 USD for withdrawal and I dont think this is acceptable for any player on that casino.
I have seen high limits before but nothing like this.

[3kpk3]

Is Bethash casino Minimum Withdrawal Amount correct or this is some mistake in the table?
Now it shows 0.02 BTC or 874 USD for withdrawal and I dont think this is acceptable for any player on that casino.
I have seen high limits before but nothing like this.

Looks like it's completely legit based on my research. As you said, it's completely messed up since the amount is close to a grand implying that they are trying their best not to release customer funds.

Such sites don't deserve to be a part of Pmalek's list if you ask me. Ridiculous stuff!