ESports betting -CS:GO, DOTA 2, LOL, Valorant - discussion thread

[ralle14]

This is the best statement I've read so far lol for real yeah those two teams are the only teams capable of winning so far. It seems we even have the same agreement on this because our answers are the same on BSFL as well lol. We both picked Falcons and BB for the final

Anyway, I think OG is doing pretty good job so far. They are not the best team around but they are still pretty good, so Im taking my chances on -1.5 for them

Those two are like the new unstoppable teams, and we might see them clash more often in future tournaments if they can consistently perform like this.

After OG faced BetBoom, and Falcons in their first two series, it's only looking better for them, but they still can't avoid going through the distance in most of their series. I'm sorry to see your ticket being ruined by Aurora even though they did well in copying the Sven pick from Falcons.

[rdbase]

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I've set up this multi on two of the best teams (Falcons and BetBoom), as they're the only ones i'd trust without checking the drafts.

Gratz on winning this

This is the best statement I've read so far lol for real yeah those two teams are the only teams capable of winning so far. It seems we even have the same agreement on this because our answers are the same on BSFL as well lol. We both picked Falcons and BB for the final

Anyway, I think OG is doing pretty good job so far. They are not the best team around but they are still pretty good, so Im taking my chances on -1.5 for them

After seeing these above bets placed and the results of these teams, it made me decide to place a bet on the BetBoom vs Team Spirit match while it was still in progress for map 1.
Team Spirit looked as if they were on the verge of a comeback but BetBoom had something called Cronos that just destroyed all their players right at the end when it was still 36-23 for the first map.
Not sure what odds they were prematch but the esport bookies still have confidence Team Spirit can still make a game of it.

[boltz]

I feel bad for Aurora being already eliminated from Group Stage 2 but at this point , I really can't figure it out what is wrong with this team because they really have a line up that could beat 90% of current dota 2 pro teams and yet , they fail doing so. Maybe it's the farm management that 23 needs to learn because most of the times he ends up on 1st place on networth but he doesn't go to team fights and that is where they lose a lot of farm across the map , they lose map domination and later they end up losing the game...

[arallmuus]

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 I'm sorry to see your ticket being ruined by Aurora even though they did well in copying the Sven pick from Falcons.

Well kinda expected shitty situation to unfold there. I mean Aurora is already on the brink of not going to get to the playoff stage so totally no pressure on them at all but I didnt expect OG to win after losing 1 map there.

Team Spirit looked as if they were on the verge of a comeback but BetBoom had something called Cronos that just destroyed all their players right at the end when it was still 36-23 for the first map.
Not sure what odds they were prematch but the esport bookies still have confidence Team Spirit can still make a game of it.

So what bet did you ended up taking? Team Spirit won the 2nd and 3rd map though so if you bet on them after they lose the 1st map then I guess you should be getting decent odds from there. Anyway even if BetBoom lose against Team spirit, I dont think it really matters because they will still get the upper bracket if they win against Aurora tomorrow

[passwordnow]

I feel bad for Aurora being already eliminated from Group Stage 2 but at this point , I really can't figure it out what is wrong with this team because they really have a line up that could beat 90% of current dota 2 pro teams and yet , they fail doing so. Maybe it's the farm management that 23 needs to learn because most of the times he ends up on 1st place on networth but he doesn't go to team fights and that is where they lose a lot of farm across the map , they lose map domination and later they end up losing the game...

They have a stand in midlaner and that's one reason why their plays aren't synched. But I think that they did well but this tournament is just full of the greatest teams in the world and there will always be those teams that just can't do against with any of them. With my analysis, we're the same looking at 23savage as the weakest link. He's not the other carry of other teams that can adjust well and even helps during the early games. There's a need for him to upgrade his game and not the farming game because he's no doubt one of the good farmers out there.

But this is a team game, a team fight and that's what he needs to look at. He needs to review the other teams on how they're going on with team fights completely with 5 heroes if they can. But if they can give space to him, at least when he sees his team having to struggle with the clashes, he needs to step up and help the team. It's not always about the farm but the space and team fights that they're winning because after that, farming will be easier for him if he does help. He's still a kid I guess but I hope that he'd listen to the advise especially with their coach sunbhie if ever he sees that weak form of his. Other than that, Falcon is just too strong on these tournaments and they're like the former Tundra Esports that we used to like to watch and considered one of the greatest.

[ralle14]

Well kinda expected shitty situation to unfold there. I mean Aurora is already on the brink of not going to get to the playoff stage so totally no pressure on them at all but I didnt expect OG to win after losing 1 map there.

True, and earlier they're the only team to end Falcon's 10-0 map streak in the groups.  

I used to think the same during their series against Xtreme Gaming, but after that, i've learned it's never over for them until the ancient drops or call GG.

On the final day of the second group stage, these two are what I think is safe enough to take. With Team Spirit taking out the second-best team BetBoom yesterday, beating OG should be an easier task so they could lock one of the two LB playoff spots. BetBoom still needs a win for the second UB playoff spot and I assume the best Aurora can get is a map win.

[rdbase]

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 I'm sorry to see your ticket being ruined by Aurora even though they did well in copying the Sven pick from Falcons.

Well kinda expected shitty situation to unfold there. I mean Aurora is already on the brink of not going to get to the playoff stage so totally no pressure on them at all but I didnt expect OG to win after losing 1 map there.

Team Spirit looked as if they were on the verge of a comeback but BetBoom had something called Cronos that just destroyed all their players right at the end when it was still 36-23 for the first map.
Not sure what odds they were prematch but the esport bookies still have confidence Team Spirit can still make a game of it.

So what bet did you ended up taking? Team Spirit won the 2nd and 3rd map though so if you bet on them after they lose the 1st map then I guess you should be getting decent odds from there. Anyway even if BetBoom lose against Team spirit, I dont think it really matters because they will still get the upper bracket if they win against Aurora tomorrow

Placed my bet on BetBoom but after they lost map 2 (which the score was 17-16 so I guess they lost it because of having their tower taken) cashed out.
What is this move done during the game, think it is called Crono. They engulf all players in a sphere of black to inflict massive damage.
Yeah, so just knew the oddsmaker had Team Spirit as the more dominant team going in. After getting 1-1 the odds flipped to 1.02 BB and 1.82 Spirit.

Just watching Aurora vs BetBoom where they are winning 14-9. Believe it is map 1.

[arallmuus]

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Well I decided to chill for today because I've been losing alot like alot though and its frustating lol. I was so close on taking BetBoom -1.5 as well but I decided not to eventually lol, I would have lost another one if I had taken it

Anyway, the last game for today would be GG vs XG. I cant recall the last time GG missed a playoff so they should be the safe bet for this last game though but the I just checked the odds and it sucks so bad. Its only 1.65 for GG to win and Im not buying it, not even gonna think of taking -1.5 because I might got screwed again lol

What is this move done during the game, think it is called Crono. They engulf all players in a sphere of black to inflict massive damage.

Chronosphere ? yeah it basically stop everyone inside that sphere and the hero that casted it would be able to do damage inside that sphere unless it is interrupted

Just watching Aurora vs BetBoom where they are winning 14-9. Believe it is map 1.

Well instead of the kill score, you might wanna look at the gold difference instead because thats where everything matters. Its on the score tab as well, there should be small print of the gold differences there. Sometimes the other team could have gotten alot more kill but they might not have higher gold overall

[passwordnow]

What is this move done during the game, think it is called Crono. They engulf all players in a sphere of black to inflict massive damage.

That's chronosphere, an ultimate skill of Faceless Void ~ https://www.dotafire.com/dota-2/skill/chronosphere-56

Chronosphere ? yeah it basically stop everyone inside that sphere and the hero that casted it would be able to do damage inside that sphere unless it is interrupted

Yeah, he's the only one that can move inside and another catch here is that when rubick copies that chronosphere then only two of them can move inside of it if Rubick is the one that casted that. Otherwise, it's only Faceless Void at all times can move there and all of his controlled units including illusions.

Where are the OG fans here? They're the next team that's eliminated from this Dreamleague. I'm just confused about this final match and points system, Team Spirit is currently at the 3rd rank with a stats of 9-9, while XG and GG are fighting now (1-0 goes to XG). If XG wins this, is it going to be a triple tie or it is going to be a tie breaker between XG and GG. I am not sure how the calculation goes upon reading this points system for this whole group stages. But if XG wins this, I think that GG is the next team that shall get eliminated. CMIIW.
Or I'll just have to wait and see who's going to win this series.

[sunsilk]

XG at game 1.

And as the game 2 is in progress at 20 minute mark, it seems that this is going to be an XG game again.

Its totally a bullshit. XG dominated map 1 and also dominated map 2 on early of the game which should have gone as expected but yeah they somehow lose the game. Well not that it really matters for me anymore on game 3 but its just frustating to watch that XG had to lose after dominating the early game again. I've said this few times, not really fond of SEA and chinese teams but I have a soft spot for Ame so totally would love to see him on top again to try and win TI

Well, while this game was already done. There's like this the same sickness of SEA and Chinese teams that even when they have been dominating at the early game, during the mid-game to late game, that's where they're choking.

On the other hand, XG was able to get into the playoffs together with the other three remaining team. But XG's bracket is on the lower bracket semifinal and they will be up against Team Spirit. While for the upper bracket, it's going to be BetBoom and Team Falcons.

Four teams remaining and what do you think about this type of formatting? The semis seems to be quicker to end but I like more the group stages because it has 2 phases and we're able to watch more games.

[rdbase]

Just watched this video made a few days ago about how this MOBA came to be from Blizzard who actually didn't even license the game. This saga of how League of Legends & DOTA2 came to be is unreal,
Blizzard Is Worse Than You Thought

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67BFdPVKYjk

[arallmuus]

Anyway, the last game for today would be GG vs XG. I cant recall the last time GG missed a playoff so they should be the safe bet for this last game though but the I just checked the odds and it sucks so bad. Its only 1.65 for GG to win and Im not buying it, not even gonna think of taking -1.5 because I might got screwed again lol

See this is why I should shut my mouth up because everything has been going the opposite of what I wrote / said. My losing streak in dota2 is just unbelievable. Well not really losing streak but I lost like 8 times out of 10 times betting and that sucks. Geez I guess GG is already out of the favourites huh, this is the first time since like the last 1.5 years that they dont make it to the playoff

[boltz]

Anyway, the last game for today would be GG vs XG. I cant recall the last time GG missed a playoff so they should be the safe bet for this last game though but the I just checked the odds and it sucks so bad. Its only 1.65 for GG to win and Im not buying it, not even gonna think of taking -1.5 because I might got screwed again lol

See this is why I should shut my mouth up because everything has been going the opposite of what I wrote / said. My losing streak in dota2 is just unbelievable. Well not really losing streak but I lost like 8 times out of 10 times betting and that sucks. Geez I guess GG is already out of the favourites huh, this is the first time since like the last 1.5 years that they dont make it to the playoff

I feel you. The current patch of Dota 2 really shuffled the power of Dota 2 pro teams right ? The ones who were dominating last year are struggle right now and those who had a decent 2023 are now powerful ( BetBoom is the best example ).

Last night , I was very mad on PA gameplay but not on Dyracho because he had no control over the dagger which went into tormentor and reflected it's dmg back and killed him...because that was the missing buyback when they basically lost the game cause of backdoor protection and a massive duel on PA who at that point had no business being near Ancient when protection kicked in ...but like I said , I consider that move a Valve for that Pa mistake.

[passwordnow]

Just watched this video made a few days ago about how this MOBA came to be from Blizzard who actually didn't even license the game. This saga of how League of Legends & DOTA2 came to be is unreal,
Blizzard Is Worse Than You Thought

MOBA started from there, warcraft and Blizzard too bad that they didn't reinvent the game and instead allowed Valve to make their '2' version for Dota. Anyway, we've got a lot of transfers that just happened this day, MJZ from South America will play for Blacklist International as their position 5. And yuragi, a former position 1 of OG signed to NaVi together with Sanctity of Mongolia whom is also a good player that's giving headache in the SEA. So, both of them will play for NaVi and I think it's a good thing for Sanctity to explore playing outside his country.

And we already have a place and venue where the next The International will happen this September, and it's going to be in Copenhagen, Denmark.
Source: The International 2024 ‘Dota 2’ Tournament Will Be Held In Copenhagen

[ralle14]

Last night , I was very mad on PA gameplay but not on Dyracho because he had no control over the dagger which went into tormentor and reflected it's dmg back and killed him...because that was the missing buyback when they basically lost the game cause of backdoor protection and a massive duel on PA who at that point had no business being near Ancient when protection kicked in ...but like I said , I consider that move a Valve for that Pa mistake.

I also saw a clip of that incident yesterday, it was so unfortunate for Dyrachyo and GG because it could've gone either way if it weren't for that unexpected ult proc.

And yuragi, a former position 1 of OG signed to NaVi together with Sanctity of Mongolia whom is also a good player that's giving headache in the SEA. So, both of them will play for NaVi and I think it's a good thing for Sanctity to explore playing outside his country.

That's a big boost for NaVi, but still, qualifying is tough when there's Spirit, BetBoom, and VP unless they all get a direct invite.

[passwordnow]

And yuragi, a former position 1 of OG signed to NaVi together with Sanctity of Mongolia whom is also a good player that's giving headache in the SEA. So, both of them will play for NaVi and I think it's a good thing for Sanctity to explore playing outside his country.

That's a big boost for NaVi, but still, qualifying is tough when there's Spirit, BetBoom, and VP unless they all get a direct invite.

They've got an edge. I think this is the era when I am optimistic with new transfers and roster changes because you'll never know if the new set of roster will have a better result than the older ones who have ego and management issues. So, here goes the new complete set of Na'Vi

Yuragi   
sanctity
nefrit      
Zayac   
Malady Captain

I am not familiar with nefrit but I guess he's got the biggest role here as told by most of the pro players. It's always the offlaner has the biggest role in early, mid and even in the late game because they are play makers and space maker for their carry.

Also, if you have missed it guys as we wait for the playoffs of DreamLeague, there's now the Elite League (SEA) that's currently happening.

[rdbase]

Anyway, the last game for today would be GG vs XG. I cant recall the last time GG missed a playoff so they should be the safe bet for this last game though but the I just checked the odds and it sucks so bad. Its only 1.65 for GG to win and Im not buying it, not even gonna think of taking -1.5 because I might got screwed again lol

See this is why I should shut my mouth up because everything has been going the opposite of what I wrote / said. My losing streak in dota2 is just unbelievable. Well not really losing streak but I lost like 8 times out of 10 times betting and that sucks. Geez I guess GG is already out of the favourites huh, this is the first time since like the last 1.5 years that they dont make it to the playoff

That tends to happen to me aswell when I am betting on other sports, so it just might work for you with betting on Dota2.
Remember Garmin Gaming winning all their matches last year so it just might be the patch boltz has mentioned just below your post on why your picks have been off is all.
Adjust to what those changes affect the teams. So in other words, observe what those where after the update.
Works for me for the entire overall of CounterStrike.

[boltz]

Ahh , it seems Falcons are indeed the kryptonite of BetBoom because once again they had first map , almost had the 2nd one and lost the 3rd one and the series. Hopefully , tomorrow their drafter will be much more inspired than picking Troll ( a hero who needs urgent remake of that ultimate ) and it will chose a more direct approach towards team fights like Morph or even Void and maybe stop giving Miero it's Lycan if the team is not consent to push and end the game until minute 35ish.

For Falcons ...what can you say ? no matter who you counter in the draft , Ammar , Skitter or Marline , there is always one of them who will have a perfect lane and also always pick great supports like Cr!t and it's SD who basically won game 3 for them. 

[passwordnow]

Ahh , it seems Falcons are indeed the kryptonite of BetBoom because once again they had first map , almost had the 2nd one and lost the 3rd one and the series. Hopefully , tomorrow their drafter will be much more inspired than picking Troll ( a hero who needs urgent remake of that ultimate ) and it will chose a more direct approach towards team fights like Morph or even Void and maybe stop giving Miero it's Lycan if the team is not consent to push and end the game until minute 35ish.

They are now facing each other in the grand finals. Despite BetBoom was sent to the lower bracket after Team Falcons victory on their first match on the playoffs, BetBoom still managed to win against Xtreme Gaming and these two teams are now in the grand finals. But with the current score of this grand finals, it is 2-0 in favor of team Falcons and this is to note that it's only a best of 5 series and one more game as of typing this, they'll be the champions of this Dream League Season 22 just after they've also won the BetBoom Dacha tournament.

As of watching their 3rd match now, Team Falcons is on the lead but the game hasn't ended yet but they are leading the game and likely to get this grand finals for the 3rd game.

For Falcons ...what can you say ? no matter who you counter in the draft , Ammar , Skitter or Marline , there is always one of them who will have a perfect lane and also always pick great supports like Cr!t and it's SD who basically won game 3 for them. 

They're like the typical Tundra that we've known. They are strong and good thing that Ammar and cr1t have found teammates where they can rely on and this is really all about the chemistry that they have. I think that they're having good communication for each of their games because each of their plays and calls are always on point.

[boltz]

Falcons are indeed a great team but owning 2 finals in a row BetBoom with 3-0 is kinda rough for a team like BB to accept and I'm sure this team will bounce back stronger and maybe they will get revenge on ESL Birmingham in a couple of weeks.

Overall , what can I say about this finals besides Ammar making Eye of Skadi in 3rd map on hero Mars who absolutely had a massive impact on health regen on Morph and his ability to moprh intro strength got basically cut in half. That's why I consider Ammar a very IQ talented player who knows how to approach a game and get out of comfort zone when it comes to builds , play-style and many more.