Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]

[paxmao]

And now there is big drone attack onnPskov airport, there is reports about 4 damaged Il-76 transport planes
https://t.me/shot_shot/56299
Interesting part that Pskov isn't somehwere close to Ukraine, but nearby to Russian border with Latvia and Estonia.

Z-tards noticed that and started making shit up about NATO attacking them:

However, there is a nuance - the Baltic countries are much closer. And these countries are part of NATO. Have you really decided to be so bold?

Can't wait for our resident kremlinists to parse that one out.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-military-repelling-drone-attack-pskov-four-planes-damaged-officials-2023-08-29/

This is a very peculiar attack, firstly because it occurs far from the front, second because it has to be done from either inside Ruzzia or from the nearby border (I cannot discard that operatives could use NATO territory to launch the attack to be honest).

However, what I find more interesting is the target, the ILUs - just the transport version. I can only guess that is an economic hit of around $50 million per unit for a total of 200 million using low-tech drones?. Ruzzia has around 100 of these, it is not really scarce, but may be difficult to replace under sanctions.

[TwitchySeal]

We have gone through that argument many times: A vote without free international observers, under recent military occupation, with testimonies of people being "persuaded" with little green men with guns is a joke. I do get that you may have a cynic vision of people's choice, my guess is that nobody ever asked you what would you like to do with your government and if they ever did you would probably pee your pants.

Already next year, Zelensky will have to show the whole world how to properly conduct free democratic elections in wartime.

Wartime?
You mean it's not just a special military operation anymore?

Ukrainians will be fighting Russian aggressors to death.

Well, that means they'll die.

Yes, Captain Obvious, aggressors will die. That's the whole point.

In Kyiv on May 9 2022, a traditional parade will be held in honor of the victory of the USSR over Nazi Germany. It is naive and foolish to doubt it.

What happened?

[LTU_btc]

This is a very peculiar attack, firstly because it occurs far from the front, second because it has to be done from either inside Ruzzia or from the nearby border (I cannot discard that operatives could use NATO territory to launch the attack to be honest).

However, what I find more interesting is the target, the ILUs - just the transport version. I can only guess that is an economic hit of around $50 million per unit for a total of 200 million using low-tech drones?. Ruzzia has around 100 of these, it is not really scarce, but may be difficult to replace under sanctions.

Yeah, Russia have over 100 such planes. But I read that they're capable to produce just few such planes per year, so such loses just in one attack is painful. Offcourse, it would be more fun if it would be some fighter jets damaged, but still, it's more effective than hitting some ''Moscow City'' skyscrappers . And most important thing that this attack shows that Ukraine is capable to reach targets which are very far away from front line, so, Russians can't feel safe there.
Oleksiy Danilov said that with development of their long range missiles and drones, hitting targets even at 1500 km distance is no longer a problem.

[tvbcof]

Me, the Ukrainian military, and the one area that the Ukrainians seem to be still trying to attack into:  You know, the area with suspiciously weak defenses leading to Tokmak.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l7-V5RSqZs&t=84s

[Branko]

What happened?

Nazis got unexpected help from USA and UK?

[be.open]

What happened?

Nazis got unexpected help from USA and UK?

Our Ukrainian friend prefers not to remember that in April 2022, negotiations between Ukraine and Russia were already at the final stage, until Boris Johnson flew from London to Kiev on an unannounced urgent visit and ordered Zelensky to curtail negotiations and fight with Russia to the last Ukrainian.

[BADecker]

What happened?

Nazis got unexpected help from USA and UK?

Our Ukrainian friend prefers not to remember that in April 2022, negotiations between Ukraine and Russia were already at the final stage, until Boris Johnson flew from London to Kiev on an unannounced urgent visit and ordered Zelensky to curtail negotiations and fight with Russia to the last Ukrainian.

Probably the depopulation people are getting rid of the smartest part of the Ukrainian population. But like Hitler got rid of the smart Poles in WW2, they have come back with an intellectual vengeance lately. Do you think it will be the same for the Ukrainians in the future?


America's Domestic Party Politics Fuel the Ukraine Catastrophe


https://www.lewrockwell.com/2023/09/phil-giraldi/americas-domestic-party-politics-fuel-the-ukraine-catastrophe/
I am surely not the only one who has noticed that the defensive propaganda lines that are flowing out the Democratic Administration have become more than ordinarily ridiculous of late. One is astonished at the melding of fact and fiction to create narratives that depict the White House and all that pertains to it as forging a new and more wonderful country. Wasn't "Build Back Better" the battle cry, whatever that is supposed to mean? And the spin is endless, even when a clueless Joe Biden belatedly winds up in Maui to relate to the tragedy in which at least 1,000 died, only to be greeted by surviving local residents saluting the president with their middle fingers upraised.

As the president looked out over the destruction of an entire city by fire he reminisced by recalling his long ago "almost" encounter with a fire in his kitchen. Locals who were screaming for help from government were, in fact, getting almost nothing while the nation's Chief Executive was in the Oval Office gloating over sending another $23 billion to the arch crook Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine, money to fight a war that Biden encouraged and has blithely entered into.
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[paxmao]

What happened?

Nazis got unexpected help from USA and UK?

Our Ukrainian friend prefers not to remember that in April 2022, negotiations between Ukraine and Russia were already at the final stage, until Boris Johnson flew from London to Kiev on an unannounced urgent visit and ordered Zelensky to curtail negotiations and fight with Russia to the last Ukrainian.

Nope, I do recall the UK supporting Ukraine in whatever Ukraine would decide. The UK cannot force Ukraine into a war simply because there is not leverage to do so even in the case that this would be in UKs interest.

Ukraine is not fighting anything like a "desperate war to the last Ukrainian", they are fighting a war that is clearly possible to win to the point in which Ruzzia will think twice before trying another land-grabbing in a few years. Next time, whoever is in power will know what is the cost of attacking the neighbour and very particularly, how trustable are their sources of information when they told the old Putler dude that Ukraine would not resist and that Europe would not respond (that was an epic blunder).

[BADecker]

What happened?

Nazis got unexpected help from USA and UK?

Our Ukrainian friend prefers not to remember that in April 2022, negotiations between Ukraine and Russia were already at the final stage, until Boris Johnson flew from London to Kiev on an unannounced urgent visit and ordered Zelensky to curtail negotiations and fight with Russia to the last Ukrainian.

Nope, I do recall the UK supporting Ukraine in whatever Ukraine would decide. The UK cannot force Ukraine into a war simply because there is not leverage to do so even in the case that this would be in UKs interest.

Ukraine is not fighting anything like a "desperate war to the last Ukrainian", they are fighting a war that is clearly possible to win to the point in which Ruzzia will think twice before trying another land-grabbing in a few years. Next time, whoever is in power will know what is the cost of attacking the neighbour and very particularly, how trustable are their sources of information when they told the old Putler dude that Ukraine would not resist and that Europe would not respond (that was an epic blunder).

Of course it's not a "desperate war to the last Ukrainian." They're volunteering for the benefit of the necessity of depopulation, because out of love they know that the whole world is suffering from over-population. Lol.

I don't think that Biden will be able to force a draft on Americans. And the Nato countries don't like the idea at all. This means that outside of a few strays that go to fight for Ukraine, all Russia has to do is keep on killing Ukraine soldiers. The problem for Russia is, when all the Ukrainians are dead, there won't be anybody left to surrender.

Consider Dresden in Germany in WW2. They thought they were safe, being rather far from Berlin, and near the Czechoslovakian border. But they got bombed right off the map, and now Czechoslovakia is even gone.

[af_newbie]

What happened?

Nazis got unexpected help from USA and UK?

Our Ukrainian friend prefers not to remember that in April 2022, negotiations between Ukraine and Russia were already at the final stage, until Boris Johnson flew from London to Kiev on an unannounced urgent visit and ordered Zelensky to curtail negotiations and fight with Russia to the last Ukrainian.

Nope, I do recall the UK supporting Ukraine in whatever Ukraine would decide. The UK cannot force Ukraine into a war simply because there is not leverage to do so even in the case that this would be in UKs interest.

Ukraine is not fighting anything like a "desperate war to the last Ukrainian", they are fighting a war that is clearly possible to win to the point in which Ruzzia will think twice before trying another land-grabbing in a few years. Next time, whoever is in power will know what is the cost of attacking the neighbour and very particularly, how trustable are their sources of information when they told the old Putler dude that Ukraine would not resist and that Europe would not respond (that was an epic blunder).

Of course it's not a "desperate war to the last Ukrainian." They're volunteering for the benefit of the necessity of depopulation, because out of love they know that the whole world is suffering from over-population. Lol.

I don't think that Biden will be able to force a draft on Americans. And the Nato countries don't like the idea at all. This means that outside of a few strays that go to fight for Ukraine, all Russia has to do is keep on killing Ukraine soldiers. The problem for Russia is, when all the Ukrainians are dead, there won't be anybody left to surrender.

Consider Dresden in Germany in WW2. They thought they were safe, being rather far from Berlin, and near the Czechoslovakian border. But they got bombed right off the map, and now Czechoslovakia is even gone.

Actually, it is simpler than that.

If Ukrainians stop fighting, there will be no Ukraine.

If Russians stop fighting, there will be no Putin.

This war will continue until Putin and all Putiniatkas are eliminated.

In the end, there will be only one winner.

PS. Russians can stop this war today by refusing to go to fight in Ukraine. Ukrainians don't have this luxury.

[Pingrapole]

We know that Ukraine is an independent country but still they do not enjoy full sovereignty because it is surrounded by Russia. Russia does not want Ukraine to be against it.That's why Russia continues military operations, they are increasing the rate of attacks one after another, the goal is not to make any relationship with the West, especially the important places in Ukraine.There Russia is always attacking their important nuclear facilities, and they are threatening to attack one after another Russia occupied the Crimea in 2014 we may now be thinking that Ukraine wants to join the drama, so Russia attacked but not really the year of the start of war should be 2014 because since 2014 one after another These actions continue and when Ukraine is unable to accept they are considering joining NATO to build a strong presence against them.And Russia's weak point is Ukraine, that's why when Ukraine is in danger, the Western world countries have seized the opportunity, and they are helping Ukraine with various tools.Russia is fueling the Ukraine war to keep the war going and weaken Russia's position
I don't think that the current leader of Ukraine is a qualified leader because every policy he has taken in the past year has been wrong, and he has not completed a single policy As a result, the policy has increased the danger and the aggression of Russia is increasing and the way Russia is launching missile attacks one after the other, destroying the critical facilities of Ukraine and destroying them.The economic condition of Ukraine is suffering due to the way civilians are being killed, and they are going to see a terrible day of danger in the coming days No one will help when it comes
Russia is continuing their aggression in one phase after another, they have destroyed important places like Don Bus Kaj Setu etc. Now they are moving towards the capital. And Russia should remember Ukraine But they are one of the strongest and largest country in the world, so it won't be so easy to deal with them, so they should negotiate peace with them and avoid Russian aggression.
One area Russia fears is that the countries around Ukraine are all NATO members, so Russia does not want Ukraine to act independently and if Ukraine joins By joining NATO, they pose a serious threat to Russia. If the Western world continues to surround Ukraine with its energy and military equipment, it poses a serious threat to Russia.I don't fully agree that Russia is invading Ukraine because aggression only happens when the other side is very weak.Bombs Missiles and other military equipment NATO countries are constantly increasing the scale of war as a result of war Russia's aggression is increasing on them, as a result of this aggression, their economic condition, infrastructure, past terrible damage, social family disaster, acute food shortage, etc. have reached extreme levels and this aggression To stop the western world should be flexible and Russia should be flexible and take a decision through planned discussions so that people are not deprived of their basic rights.And the human rights guaranteed by the United Nations can be fully enjoyed by all citizens

A small kitten like Ukraine can't do anything to a powerful military like Russia and a nuclear-capable state, so Ukraine should get out of its wrong foreign policy and get right To protect the nation in one's own country The President of Russia is now a dictator who has turned his country into a state of injustice through various unjust actions which have made the common man helpless reached the stage
Finally I can tell Ukraine to come out of their wrong actions through constructive dialogue with their country people and Russia should give peace to the common people of Ukraine from their behavior and this aggression is very bad Stop it  I personally think this aggression is not allowed to continue, and it is a scandal and unpleasant and intolerable.

[Branko]

We know that Ukraine is an independent country but still they do not enjoy full sovereignty because it is surrounded by Russia. Russia does not want Ukraine to be against it.That's why Russia continues military operations, they are increasing the rate of attacks one after another, the goal is not to make any relationship with the West, especially the important places in Ukraine.There Russia is always attacking their important nuclear facilities, and they are threatening to attack one after another Russia occupied the Crimea in 2014 we may now be thinking that Ukraine wants to join the drama, so Russia attacked but not really the year of the start of war should be 2014 because since 2014 one after another These actions continue and when Ukraine is unable to accept they are considering joining NATO to build a strong presence against them.And Russia's weak point is Ukraine, that's why when Ukraine is in danger, the Western world countries have seized the opportunity, and they are helping Ukraine with various tools.Russia is fueling the Ukraine war to keep the war going and weaken Russia's position
I don't think that the current leader of Ukraine is a qualified leader because every policy he has taken in the past year has been wrong, and he has not completed a single policy As a result, the policy has increased the danger and the aggression of Russia is increasing and the way Russia is launching missile attacks one after the other, destroying the critical facilities of Ukraine and destroying them.The economic condition of Ukraine is suffering due to the way civilians are being killed, and they are going to see a terrible day of danger in the coming days No one will help when it comes
Russia is continuing their aggression in one phase after another, they have destroyed important places like Don Bus Kaj Setu etc. Now they are moving towards the capital. And Russia should remember Ukraine But they are one of the strongest and largest country in the world, so it won't be so easy to deal with them, so they should negotiate peace with them and avoid Russian aggression.
One area Russia fears is that the countries around Ukraine are all NATO members, so Russia does not want Ukraine to act independently and if Ukraine joins By joining NATO, they pose a serious threat to Russia. If the Western world continues to surround Ukraine with its energy and military equipment, it poses a serious threat to Russia.I don't fully agree that Russia is invading Ukraine because aggression only happens when the other side is very weak.Bombs Missiles and other military equipment NATO countries are constantly increasing the scale of war as a result of war Russia's aggression is increasing on them, as a result of this aggression, their economic condition, infrastructure, past terrible damage, social family disaster, acute food shortage, etc. have reached extreme levels and this aggression To stop the western world should be flexible and Russia should be flexible and take a decision through planned discussions so that people are not deprived of their basic rights.And the human rights guaranteed by the United Nations can be fully enjoyed by all citizens

A small kitten like Ukraine can't do anything to a powerful military like Russia and a nuclear-capable state, so Ukraine should get out of its wrong foreign policy and get right To protect the nation in one's own country The President of Russia is now a dictator who has turned his country into a state of injustice through various unjust actions which have made the common man helpless reached the stage
Finally I can tell Ukraine to come out of their wrong actions through constructive dialogue with their country people and Russia should give peace to the common people of Ukraine from their behavior and this aggression is very bad Stop it  I personally think this aggression is not allowed to continue, and it is a scandal and unpleasant and intolerable.

peace agreement was already settled, but UK and USA prevented it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQIqOB8PVLU

[TwitchySeal]

What happened?

Nazis got unexpected help from USA and UK?

peace agreement was already settled, but UK and USA prevented it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQIqOB8PVLU

Do you really think Putin didn't expect help from UK and USA after they blocked a peace deal that he signed?  

Use your brain and get your fantasies in order man - you're embarrassing mother Russia.

[paxmao]

What happened?

Nazis got unexpected help from USA and UK?

Our Ukrainian friend prefers not to remember that in April 2022, negotiations between Ukraine and Russia were already at the final stage, until Boris Johnson flew from London to Kiev on an unannounced urgent visit and ordered Zelensky to curtail negotiations and fight with Russia to the last Ukrainian.

Nope, I do recall the UK supporting Ukraine in whatever Ukraine would decide. The UK cannot force Ukraine into a war simply because there is not leverage to do so even in the case that this would be in UKs interest.

Ukraine is not fighting anything like a "desperate war to the last Ukrainian", they are fighting a war that is clearly possible to win to the point in which Ruzzia will think twice before trying another land-grabbing in a few years. Next time, whoever is in power will know what is the cost of attacking the neighbour and very particularly, how trustable are their sources of information when they told the old Putler dude that Ukraine would not resist and that Europe would not respond (that was an epic blunder).

Of course it's not a "desperate war to the last Ukrainian." They're volunteering for the benefit of the necessity of depopulation, because out of love they know that the whole world is suffering from over-population. Lol.

I don't think that Biden will be able to force a draft on Americans. And the Nato countries don't like the idea at all. This means that outside of a few strays that go to fight for Ukraine, all Russia has to do is keep on killing Ukraine soldiers. The problem for Russia is, when all the Ukrainians are dead, there won't be anybody left to surrender.

Consider Dresden in Germany in WW2. They thought they were safe, being rather far from Berlin, and near the Czechoslovakian border. But they got bombed right off the map, and now Czechoslovakia is even gone.

1. Ukrainians fight for a variety of reasons. These include patriotism, money, their land, their families, their freedom and many other as good or as bad.
2. US is unlikely to send soldiers to Ukraine but certainly would not ever send conscripts. You are spreading fake information and trying to scare people - I guess some of them are stupid enough to believe such a thing.
3. Considering Germany after WW II is precisely why Ruzzia needs to be stopped here and now, to avoid them spreading their influence over half of Europe. Cold war was extremely costly, only a fool would want to repeat it. The cheap and smart alternative is to drive Ruzzia back to their borders while it demilitarises and destroys its economy itself in the way so that the do not come back for more.

And, again providing biased information. Czechoslovakia is not "gone" it is two states Czechia and Slovakia, which by the way have very good industrial bases, an educated population and growing economies in the context of the European Union. You know why? Because they are free from Ruzzia stealing from them and governing from Moscow - does this ring a bell to you???

[BADecker]

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Of course it's not a "desperate war to the last Ukrainian." They're volunteering for the benefit of the necessity of depopulation, because out of love they know that the whole world is suffering from over-population. Lol.

I don't think that Biden will be able to force a draft on Americans. And the Nato countries don't like the idea at all. This means that outside of a few strays that go to fight for Ukraine, all Russia has to do is keep on killing Ukraine soldiers. The problem for Russia is, when all the Ukrainians are dead, there won't be anybody left to surrender.

Consider Dresden in Germany in WW2. They thought they were safe, being rather far from Berlin, and near the Czechoslovakian border. But they got bombed right off the map, and now Czechoslovakia is even gone.

1. Ukrainians fight for a variety of reasons. These include patriotism, money, their land, their families, their freedom and many other as good or as bad.
2. US is unlikely to send soldiers to Ukraine but certainly would not ever send conscripts. You are spreading fake information and trying to scare people - I guess some of them are stupid enough to believe such a thing.
3. Considering Germany after WW II is precisely why Ruzzia needs to be stopped here and now, to avoid them spreading their influence over half of Europe. Cold war was extremely costly, only a fool would want to repeat it. The cheap and smart alternative is to drive Ruzzia back to their borders while it demilitarises and destroys its economy itself in the way so that the do not come back for more.

And, again providing biased information. Czechoslovakia is not "gone" it is two states Czechia and Slovakia, which by the way have very good industrial bases, an educated population and growing economies in the context of the European Union. You know why? Because they are free from Ruzzia stealing from them and governing from Moscow - does this ring a bell to you???

You forgot the biggest reason why Ukrainians fight.

4. They are stupidly believing that they have a chance, just like Americans listening to THEIR government and media about Ukraine think Ukraine is winning. Dying futilely for "patriotism, money, their land, their families, their freedom and many other as good or as bad" aren't good reasons to die. I mean, nobody will be there to take care of their families once they are dead. And they certainly won't take their land and wealth into the grave with themselves. Zelensky certainly won't help. He'll be just as gone as they are.

[LTU_btc]

Russia is continuing their aggression in one phase after another, they have destroyed important places like Don Bus Kaj Setu etc. Now they are moving towards the capital.

You wrote lot of text, but too bad that most part of it is nonsense. I'm not even sure that it was written by real human or some broken AI.
First of all, could you tell what the hell is Don Bus Kaj Setu? Don Bus sounds similar to Donbas, but I have no idea what is Kaj Setu. And in what alternative reality Russia is moving towards the capital?

A small kitten like Ukraine can't do anything to a powerful military like Russia and a nuclear-capable state, so Ukraine should get out of its wrong foreign policy and get right To protect the nation in one's own country

What you're offering Ukraine to do? Sign act of capitulation?

[be.open]

What you're offering Ukraine to do? Sign act of capitulation?

How many more Ukrainians must die before this thought ceases to seem unacceptable to you? I think no one will accuse the Ukrainians of cowardice, they have been fighting bravely for a year and a half against a rival many times superior in strength, without the slightest chance of success. Maybe it's time to listen to the voice of reason and to the banal instinct of self-preservation? As before, Russia does not require anything supernatural from Ukraine - only to respect the interests of Russian-speaking citizens and observe strategic neutrality. Is it really worth dying for?

[Branko]

Do you really think Putin didn't expect help from UK and USA after they blocked a peace deal that he signed?  

Use your brain and get your fantasies in order man - you're embarrassing mother Russia.

They got help way before March...you should do homework, you're embarrassing mother Ukraine

[af_newbie]

What you're offering Ukraine to do? Sign act of capitulation?

How many more Ukrainians must die before this thought ceases to seem unacceptable to you? I think no one will accuse the Ukrainians of cowardice, they have been fighting bravely for a year and a half against a rival many times superior in strength, without the slightest chance of success. Maybe it's time to listen to the voice of reason and to the banal instinct of self-preservation? As before, Russia does not require anything supernatural from Ukraine - only to respect the interests of Russian-speaking citizens and observe strategic neutrality. Is it really worth dying for?

How many? Four times less than Russians.

[Branko]

1. Ukrainians fight for a variety of reasons. These include patriotism, money, their land, their families, their freedom and many other as good or as bad.
2. US is unlikely to send soldiers to Ukraine but certainly would not ever send conscripts. You are spreading fake information and trying to scare people - I guess some of them are stupid enough to believe such a thing.
3. Considering Germany after WW II is precisely why Ruzzia needs to be stopped here and now, to avoid them spreading their influence over half of Europe. Cold war was extremely costly, only a fool would want to repeat it. The cheap and smart alternative is to drive Ruzzia back to their borders while it demilitarises and destroys its economy itself in the way so that the do not come back for more.

And, again providing biased information. Czechoslovakia is not "gone" it is two states Czechia and Slovakia, which by the way have very good industrial bases, an educated population and growing economies in the context of the European Union. You know why? Because they are free from Ruzzia stealing from them and governing from Moscow - does this ring a bell to you???

Czechia also became center of EU porno industry, and I doubt girls on legalporno are doing what they're doing out of their free will...
so "democracy" brought a lot of bad shit there
I won't even go into what can be bought out of Ukraine on Dark Web and demand is mostly from Benelux countries and UK