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June 03, 2024, 05:58:58 PM
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Dismissing all sources from reputable news agencies as false opinions only to post about your own visions  Roll Eyes do tell what else do you see in your dreams, so we can completely switch to just shitposts.

Funny how you briefly mentioned R37 It is designed to shoot down tankers, AWACS and other C4ISTAR aircraft[1] while keeping the launch platform out of range of any fighters that might be protecting the target. According to Janes there are two variants, the R-37 and the R-37M; the latter conceived as having a jettisonable rocket booster that increases the range to "300–400 km" (160–220 nm). and make sure to totally ignore the range of S-400 with some missiles going to 400km and don't think about what already happened to most of UA air force planes, and try to evade the fact that Russia can hit any target in UA while planes need active runways to land at. Other than that, your dreams of few old planes being yet another game-changing weapons system which this time will surely tip the balance, makes a good morale booster for unsophisticated reader.

Yet the people who are providing the F-16s and the AWACS know of the R-37 and the s400 (claimed) capabilities. does this tell you anything? do you think they are simply making a mistake? I would encourage you to understand how planes have to fight in an unsafe / contested airspace, what are the requirements for an R-37 to reach the claimed range and why the Meteor does not have that limitation.

In any case, Ukraine form having a few legacy non-updated Mig-29, who were not good enough even two decades ago, is now going to have a proper Airforce, to a size that is enough to cause many many problems for Ruzzia.

It would be quite helpful too to have a load of Iris-T or Sidewinders for the Cruise missiles... it is cheaper than Patriot.

Hmm deja vu, oh right, you mean just like those previous deliveries of Leopards and Abrams that they were pushing for? How did that turn out? But guess at this point anything just to keep morale from a total collapse, so this could be dragged out for a bit longer.




Tanks are what they are as anything else, they have their use case and their weak points. I think Ukraine tried to see if the Ruzzian defences were as "good" as the ones they found west of the dnipro and followed tactics inspired by armies that do have air forces.

 Bradleys are still seen in the field quite often doing all the stuff they are supposed to do (e.g. killing an in theory superior T90). An there are sooo many Bradleys out there... endless supply. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khXMVPpxdxg

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Bradley fighting vehicle is plentiful. The United States owns just under 7,000 Bradley vehicles, but it only fields 4,000 of these vehicles, approximately 2800 have been relegated to storage — deemed useless to the Pentagon.

 In the past, Ukraine should have simply waited to use the tanks in the right environment, which is not charging head-on without air support. Now I think the tactic is becoming more adaptive.

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June 03, 2024, 07:37:03 PM
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^^^ Play around, play around. Play with words because it's fun, and you can.

Ukrainian people are getting the message, more and more, of how badly they are losing. The only question is, how long will it take for them to turn on Zelensky? Get caught, and die at the hands of Zelensky, or join with Z and die at the front. What a choice!

The other choice is, individually surrender to Russian forces, and then join them to fight Z. After all, Zelensky is not Ukraine. Look at what he has done to his own country. Hundreds of thousands of his own people dead, and the country in shambles.

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Yet the people who are providing the F-16s and the AWACS know of the R-37 and the s400 (claimed) capabilities. does this tell you anything? do you think they are simply making a mistake? I would encourage you to understand how planes have to fight in an unsafe / contested airspace, what are the requirements for an R-37 to reach the claimed range and why the Meteor does not have that limitation.

In any case, Ukraine form having a few legacy non-updated Mig-29, who were not good enough even two decades ago, is now going to have a proper Airforce, to a size that is enough to cause many many problems for Ruzzia.

It would be quite helpful too to have a load of Iris-T or Sidewinders for the Cruise missiles... it is cheaper than Patriot.

Ukrainians already say UK and USA tanks are crap, why would planes be any different?
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Yet the people who are providing the F-16s and the AWACS know of the R-37 and the s400 (claimed) capabilities. does this tell you anything? do you think they are simply making a mistake? I would encourage you to understand how planes have to fight in an unsafe / contested airspace, what are the requirements for an R-37 to reach the claimed range and why the Meteor does not have that limitation.

In any case, Ukraine form having a few legacy non-updated Mig-29, who were not good enough even two decades ago, is now going to have a proper Airforce, to a size that is enough to cause many many problems for Ruzzia.

It would be quite helpful too to have a load of Iris-T or Sidewinders for the Cruise missiles... it is cheaper than Patriot.

Ukrainians already say UK and USA tanks are crap, why would planes be any different?

I am not sure what Ukrainian think about western tanks, but about planes... you will not be able to ask the Ruzzian pilots if you are wrong. What I am sure is that the f16 is well battle tested (6 million of combat hours) so  good or bad, it is not unknown. I am wondering how much of an edge will the block d modifications will be.

It seems that the Ruzzians went all happy in setting bases and unhidden equipment and columns in Belgorod, to then not being informed that the ban r to hit their positions inside Ruzzia was removed. The results have been what you could expect. The S300 that were being used in ground attack mode for terror operations in Kharkiv are being consistently struck by those weapons that "do not work" along with supply convoys caught ridiculously traveling together in the open. Look like a repetition of the convoys of 2022.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4g2r-Gb6YY

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/06/03/ukraine-russia-war-latest-news7/


Welcome to being in range.


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June 04, 2024, 08:31:43 PM
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Instead of reposting PR articles, how about you find some serious source and share it with us, like for example

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk7D_TliAuE
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Instead of reposting PR articles, how about you find some serious source and share it with us, like for example

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk7D_TliAuE

Branko, you have used this same source and daRude as well. Is it only PR when it says something you do not want to hear?

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Branko, you have used this same source and daRude as well. Is it only PR when it says something you do not want to hear?

No...for example, this is PR:

single Russian tank destroyed whole Ukrainian armored column

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lseoSSShVys

So, Russians managed to make tank out of "washing machine chips" and "shovels"
and win in fight where they were outmanned 10:1...against "invincible western weapons"
and "modern western technology"


Sorry for copying your style
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Branko, you have used this same source and daRude as well. Is it only PR when it says something you do not want to hear?

No...for example, this is PR:

single Russian tank destroyed whole Ukrainian armored column

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lseoSSShVys

So, Russians managed to make tank out of "washing machine chips" and "shovels"
and win in fight where they were outmanned 10:1...against "invincible western weapons"
and "modern western technology"


Sorry for copying your style

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/S1-ROw6qp-k?feature=share

You are pardoned, whoever programmed you did a masterful job.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qWlMYzjbG_o?feature=share

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/F4nXF_nJdWU?feature=share

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June 05, 2024, 02:48:53 PM
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You outdid yourself by posting that witch trash.
I mean, really, wtf, lol
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-g0J3-VtoCw?feature=share

Is easier than having to write pretty much the same thing but with much worse style than her. BTW, look at you firsts post of this thread. Have you forgotten that you basically used to link videos?

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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-g0J3-VtoCw?feature=share

Is easier than having to write pretty much the same thing but with much worse style than her. BTW, look at you firsts post of this thread. Have you forgotten that you basically used to link videos?

Russia DID great under Putin...that's reason you rooineks and yankees were disappointed with him,
you wanted early 1990s back, with your oligarchs plundering weak Russia

But you miscalculated, and now China fast-forwarded like 10 years and will surpass USA even faster

Btw, if Russia could do much with money spent on war, ask her what could USA do with 2000 000 millions USD
spent in Afghanistan...last I heard USA has even worse public services than Russia

https://www.rbth.com/lifestyle/326529-new-york-versus-moscow

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June 05, 2024, 06:00:57 PM
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Time to kill off the last of the Ukrainians.

The best thing the new recruits can do is, play the game, get sent to the front lines, and when it is obvious that they are going to die anyway, turn on their commanders and die killing them. At least they will have died to save what is left of the real Ukraine... not the Zelensky puppet Ukraine.


Ukraine Officers Say Recruits Arrive At Front Lines Pathetically Undertrained



https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraine-officers-say-recruits-sent-front-line-pathetically-undertrained
In the latest harbinger of Ukraine's inevitable defeat, combat commanders say newly-mobilized soldiers are arriving at the front lines so poorly-trained and clueless that they can't even disassemble their weapons, according to the Washington Post.

One soldier described his basic training as "complete nonsense...everything is learned on the spot [at the front lines]." An officer who'd trained recruits said their rifle training was limited to just 20 rounds per soldier.

In most armies, that would barely be considered "familiarization fire." Consider that, as of 2018, the US Army's basic combat training called for shooting 600 rounds in a 92-hour curriculum. Rifle ammo isn't the only limiting factor: The Ukrainian officer also noted that that "there are no grenades for throwing in training centers, and there are no grenade launcher rounds in the training center."
...



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June 05, 2024, 07:14:39 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-g0J3-VtoCw?feature=share

Is easier than having to write pretty much the same thing but with much worse style than her. BTW, look at you firsts post of this thread. Have you forgotten that you basically used to link videos?

Russia DID great under Putin...that's reason you rooineks and yankees were disappointed with him,
you wanted early 1990s back, with your oligarchs plundering weak Russia

But you miscalculated, and now China fast-forwarded like 10 years and will surpass USA even faster

Btw, if Russia could do much with money spent on war, ask her what could USA do with 2000 000 millions USD
spent in Afghanistan...last I heard USA has even worse public services than Russia

https://www.rbth.com/lifestyle/326529-new-york-versus-moscow



Russia did (past tense) well under Putin for some people and it should have been doing better, so guess who made a mistake? Hint: there has only been one leader in Ruzzia for decades, at least in democracies you can blame the other guy.

I cannot thank you enough for making the point for me: I have no doubt that Moscow Metro is faring fantastically, the problem is the rest of the "Ruzzian World":

Meanwhile Ruzzian toilet (outside Moscow, of course)



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30,000,000 people in Russia are not connected to centralized sewage systems –despite living in the digital age and in an allegedly developed country.In a special project, our partner outlet Novaya Gazeta reveals how about a fifth of the Russian population gets by without access to indoor plumbing and the devastating impact this has on the environment.
https://hromadske.ua/en/posts/russia-is-struggling-with-a-shitty-problem-literally

I guess they should go and poo in Moscow's Metro.

See, people are very confused in America, they are ok with the New York metro, even the toilets. Why are they not going to Moscow?

People risking their lives to get INTO the US:



People risking their lives to get OUT OF Ruzzia:



Now to back to what matters:

- French instructors will be working in Ukraine.
- US likely to give the go ahead to the use of ATACAMS inside Ruzzian territory. Lost of new military target to be "welcome to be in range" at any moment.
- The number of Ruzzian soldiers put out of action has been consistently superior to 1000 a day for the last weeks, with nearly nothing to show as progress nor any particular change of the strategic situation. This is throwing 100 dollar bills to the fire for heating.

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 The Ukrainian officer also noted that that "there are no grenades for throwing in training centers, and there are no grenade launcher rounds in the training center."
[...]

Training with grenades does not require live munition.

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June 05, 2024, 07:22:53 PM
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^^^ Thank you for making the point. What is the point? That you are failing in your observations, so you have to distract from the point that Ukraine is gone, and that the war between Russia and the US and Nato is finally heating up and out into the open.

Soon China will follow suit with a two million man army to support Russia... because the US will simply not accept that their control of the world is slipping away.


The Reckless Brinkmanship With Russia Just Keeps On Escalating



https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/the-reckless-brinkmanship-with-russia?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2
In response to the frightening steps that NATO has been taking to allow western-supplied weapons to be used by Ukraine to strike Russian territory, Vladimir Putin warned last week that these escalations can lead to "serious consequences".

"This constant escalation can lead to serious consequences," Putin said. "If these serious consequences occur in Europe, how will the US behave, bearing in mind our parity in the field of strategic weapons? Hard to say. Do they want global conflict?"

We can get a more concrete idea of what Putin was talking about from the blatant threat Moscow formally made to the UK last month, saying that Ukraine using any British weapons to attack Russian territory could result in direct Russian attacks on British military targets in Ukraine "and beyond", which would place Russia in a profoundly dangerous state of hot warfare with NATO forces.
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June 05, 2024, 07:26:38 PM
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^^^ Thank you for making the point. What is the point? That you are failing in your observations, so you have to distract from the point that Ukraine is gone, and that the war between Russia and the US and Nato is finally heating up and out into the open.

Soon China will follow suit with a two million man army to support Russia... because the US will simply not accept that their control of the world is slipping away.

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dumBAss, would you like to put your bitcoin where your mouth is? If China provides two million soldiers or more to fight for Ruzzia against Ukraine in the next 6 months I will give you 10 usd in bitcoin.. If it does not... you stop posting for a week of my choice.

deal?

Branko help me made the point of the Ruzzian Federation being a Moscovian Empire - pure kleptocracy. Thanks again. I would rather be talking about how Ukraine is burning through the Ruzzian's soviet stock of weapons with admirable efficacy, The number of Ruzzian equipment and the value of it are beyond even the wildest dreams of Ukraine.

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^^^ Thank you for making the point. What is the point? That you are failing in your observations, so you have to distract from the point that Ukraine is gone, and that the war between Russia and the US and Nato is finally heating up and out into the open.

Soon China will follow suit with a two million man army to support Russia... because the US will simply not accept that their control of the world is slipping away.

Cool

dumBAss, would you like to put your bitcoin where your mouth is? If China provides two million soldiers or more to fight for Ruzzia against Ukraine in the next 6 months I will give you 10 usd in bitcoin.. If it does not... you stop posting for a week of my choice.

deal?

Branko help me made the point of the Ruzzian Federation being a Moscovian Empire - pure kleptocracy. Thanks again. I would rather be talking about how Ukraine is burning through the Ruzzian's soviet stock of weapons with admirable efficacy, The number of Ruzzian equipment and the value of it are beyond even the wildest dreams of Ukraine.

Since the Russian stock of weapons is essentially limitless, let Ukraine destroy itself while burning through a few Russian weapons.

I'm for freedom. I wouldn't want to stop the Ukrainian war, because they are doing it freely. If you can't stop suicide, the only thing left to do is to agree with it.

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^^^ Thank you for making the point. What is the point? That you are failing in your observations, so you have to distract from the point that Ukraine is gone, and that the war between Russia and the US and Nato is finally heating up and out into the open.

Soon China will follow suit with a two million man army to support Russia... because the US will simply not accept that their control of the world is slipping away.

Cool

dumBAss, would you like to put your bitcoin where your mouth is? If China provides two million soldiers or more to fight for Ruzzia against Ukraine in the next 6 months I will give you 10 usd in bitcoin.. If it does not... you stop posting for a week of my choice.

deal?

Branko help me made the point of the Ruzzian Federation being a Moscovian Empire - pure kleptocracy. Thanks again. I would rather be talking about how Ukraine is burning through the Ruzzian's soviet stock of weapons with admirable efficacy, The number of Ruzzian equipment and the value of it are beyond even the wildest dreams of Ukraine.

Since the Russian stock of weapons is essentially limitless, let Ukraine destroy itself while burning through a few Russian weapons.

I'm for freedom. I wouldn't want to stop the Ukrainian war, because they are doing it freely. If you can't stop suicide, the only thing left to do is to agree with it.

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So... are you betting on China providing 2 million soldiers? You just said is going to happen... are not sure?

Would you like a bet on Texas becoming independent in the next year? You also said that could happen.

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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-g0J3-VtoCw?feature=share

Is easier than having to write pretty much the same thing but with much worse style than her. BTW, look at you firsts post of this thread. Have you forgotten that you basically used to link videos?

Russia DID great under Putin...that's reason you rooineks and yankees were disappointed with him,
you wanted early 1990s back, with your oligarchs plundering weak Russia

But you miscalculated, and now China fast-forwarded like 10 years and will surpass USA even faster

Btw, if Russia could do much with money spent on war, ask her what could USA do with 2000 000 millions USD
spent in Afghanistan...last I heard USA has even worse public services than Russia

https://www.rbth.com/lifestyle/326529-new-york-versus-moscow



Russia did (past tense) well under Putin for some people and it should have been doing better, so guess who made a mistake? Hint: there has only been one leader in Ruzzia for decades, at least in democracies you can blame the other guy.

I cannot thank you enough for making the point for me: I have no doubt that Moscow Metro is faring fantastically, the problem is the rest of the "Ruzzian World":

Meanwhile Ruzzian toilet (outside Moscow, of course)



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30,000,000 people in Russia are not connected to centralized sewage systems –despite living in the digital age and in an allegedly developed country.In a special project, our partner outlet Novaya Gazeta reveals how about a fifth of the Russian population gets by without access to indoor plumbing and the devastating impact this has on the environment.
https://hromadske.ua/en/posts/russia-is-struggling-with-a-shitty-problem-literally

I guess they should go and poo in Moscow's Metro.

See, people are very confused in America, they are ok with the New York metro, even the toilets. Why are they not going to Moscow?

People risking their lives to get INTO the US:



People risking their lives to get OUT OF Ruzzia:



Now to back to what matters:

- French instructors will be working in Ukraine.
- US likely to give the go ahead to the use of ATACAMS inside Ruzzian territory. Lost of new military target to be "welcome to be in range" at any moment.
- The number of Ruzzian soldiers put out of action has been consistently superior to 1000 a day for the last weeks, with nearly nothing to show as progress nor any particular change of the strategic situation. This is throwing 100 dollar bills to the fire for heating.

[...]

 The Ukrainian officer also noted that that "there are no grenades for throwing in training centers, and there are no grenade launcher rounds in the training center."
[...]

Training with grenades does not require live munition.



At least they have toilet, unlike 300 000 people in San Francisco shitting on streets each day, so much that they
had to develop application to track all those huge piles of shit:

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/View/index.html?appid=b6fab720912642b6aedafdb02a76d2a4

What country has 12.5% people on food stamps? Is that somewhere in Africa?

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/07/19/what-the-data-says-about-food-stamps-in-the-u-s/

paxmao, thank you for making my point:



Poor France:

https://www.politico.eu/article/france-africa-russia-emmanuel-macron-vladimir-putin-mali-central-african-republic-burkina-faso/
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^^^^^How can you tell that this is propaganda and where it comes from? Just notice it says "The Ukrainian Crisis". There is no "Ukrainian Crisis", there is an "Invasion of Ukraine by Ruzzia".

The rest is as good as the tittle. But it is irrelevant for the discourse of the war.

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-casualties-tanks-apvs-vehicles-lost-artillery-systems-ukraine-1907814

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Russian forces lost nearly 1,300 fighters, more than 100 vehicles of various types and 65 artillery systems in the past day, according to Ukraine, shortly after Kyiv reported the highest number of monthly Russian casualties and artillery losses in the war-torn country.

And this is not a one-off, it is has been like this since Ruzzia started the invasion of Karkhiv Oblast. Or like you would be like it to call it "the Crisis in Karkhiv" or the "special military operation".

This is what means "to be in range" and there is going to be much more equipment "in range".

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Since the Russian stock of weapons is essentially limitless, let Ukraine destroy itself while burning through a few Russian weapons.

I'm for freedom. I wouldn't want to stop the Ukrainian war, because they are doing it freely. If you can't stop suicide, the only thing left to do is to agree with it.

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So... are you betting on China providing 2 million soldiers? You just said is going to happen... are not sure?

Would you like a bet on Texas becoming independent in the next year? You also said that could happen.

Since you would continue to support death for thousands by supporting more funds to Ukraine, if I were right in my predictions, you wouldn't agree, anyway. I mean, when you support murdering thousands or millions, my little predictions won't mean anything to you until it starts to hurt you personally. So, what does this have to do with anything?

Revelation 9:16:
The number of the mounted troops was twice ten thousand times ten thousand. I heard their number.

These troops will pounce on the ME, and will take the pressure off Russia, thereby.

Also, since you seem interested in how many people of Texas want to secede, consider https://duckduckgo.com/?q=chart+of+percent+of+people+in+the+uS+want+secession&iax=images&ia=images.

If Texas secedes, the US will find it much harder to find funds to send to Ukraine.

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