Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]

[bangjoe]

China is supplying Iran, India and China are buying Ruzzian oil at a marverllous discount, Ruzzia transfered missile tech to Iran (even experts in nuclear weapons went into Iran). China passed both nuclear and missile technology to North Korea as the perfect "proxy" to use nukes against Japan or even others without getting officially involved...

Any regime that feels threatened by the US simply groups together. Except perhaps India and - to a point China = that simply take advantage of the stupidity of others (e.g. Putin is stupid enough to get his oil sanctioned, we will buy it at 50% discount to market).

The problem is too complex, all of that is done so as not to always revolve around the US and its allies, and no matter how to continue to follow the US there will be another war, they always make propaganda to divide, none other than the arms business must run, they get money from there. LOL
China is wild, but it takes advantage of the narrowness to maintain the stubbornness of others, this is clever, and therefore China is projected to replace the US as world leader.

Here it smells of interests to achieve their own version of sovereignty, the weak and stupid will be eaten, and today Iran has become an open stage.

Kind of yes. But one must say that Iran has made all the wrong choices - not even from a moral perspective, but from a practical one. It is very clear to absolutely anyone that Israel will not allow Iran to get a nuke and will use whatever means required to avoid it. That includes bringing the US into the war.

Another of those mistakes was to take part in favour or Ruzzia without asking for a good bunch of Ruzzian air defences and material - before the Ukraine war of course, Ruzzia now is not even serving long standing customers.

For the discussion of Nuclear, there have been 5 meetings with mediators from the US to negotiate this and when approaching the 6th meeting Israel carried out unilateral bombings even Trump said that he was not involved with Netanyahu's actions, and the attack left wounds, because not only civilians were victims but high-ranking Iranian officials and Iranian nuclear scientists were victims, the attack was the same as Israel declaring war at the beginning, and Iran responded to it with the same action, is that wrong? okay if your nation is attacked unilaterally where the problem is still in the negotiation stage will you tolerate it? of course not
On the other hand, Israel is also believed to have Nuclear weapons, why can't other countries have them? is this a joke, if you have firearms but you forbid others to have them.

Okay I got news that Russia will invest in my country and they are also willing to teach the use of nuclear technology, will Israel attack us too? what standards should be understood here.

Unfortunately Iran is bold and Putin said that he has not received a request for help from Iran, but they are ready to do it if asked, Iran is the only proxy of Russia in the middle east, if the US gets involved then it will be the biggest mistake they have taken, their domestic situation is unstable, many protesters are against what Trump is doing.

Today when the west is focused on Israel on the other side the Russian invasion is getting bigger in Ukraine, Zelensky should count himself to fight Russia before believing Nato will support him.

[Branko]

China is supplying Iran, India and China are buying Ruzzian oil at a marverllous discount, Ruzzia transfered missile tech to Iran (even experts in nuclear weapons went into Iran). China passed both nuclear and missile technology to North Korea as the perfect "proxy" to use nukes against Japan or even others without getting officially involved...

Any regime that feels threatened by the US simply groups together. Except perhaps India and - to a point China = that simply take advantage of the stupidity of others (e.g. Putin is stupid enough to get his oil sanctioned, we will buy it at 50% discount to market).

The problem is too complex, all of that is done so as not to always revolve around the US and its allies, and no matter how to continue to follow the US there will be another war, they always make propaganda to divide, none other than the arms business must run, they get money from there. LOL
China is wild, but it takes advantage of the narrowness to maintain the stubbornness of others, this is clever, and therefore China is projected to replace the US as world leader.

Here it smells of interests to achieve their own version of sovereignty, the weak and stupid will be eaten, and today Iran has become an open stage.

Kind of yes. But one must say that Iran has made all the wrong choices - not even from a moral perspective, but from a practical one. It is very clear to absolutely anyone that Israel will not allow Iran to get a nuke and will use whatever means required to avoid it. That includes bringing the US into the war.

Another of those mistakes was to take part in favour or Ruzzia without asking for a good bunch of Ruzzian air defences and material - before the Ukraine war of course, Ruzzia now is not even serving long standing customers.

For the discussion of Nuclear, there have been 5 meetings with mediators from the US to negotiate this and when approaching the 6th meeting Israel carried out unilateral bombings even Trump said that he was not involved with Netanyahu's actions, and the attack left wounds, because not only civilians were victims but high-ranking Iranian officials and Iranian nuclear scientists were victims, the attack was the same as Israel declaring war at the beginning, and Iran responded to it with the same action, is that wrong? okay if your nation is attacked unilaterally where the problem is still in the negotiation stage will you tolerate it? of course not
On the other hand, Israel is also believed to have Nuclear weapons, why can't other countries have them? is this a joke, if you have firearms but you forbid others to have them.

Okay I got news that Russia will invest in my country and they are also willing to teach the use of nuclear technology, will Israel attack us too? what standards should be understood here.

Unfortunately Iran is bold and Putin said that he has not received a request for help from Iran, but they are ready to do it if asked, Iran is the only proxy of Russia in the middle east, if the US gets involved then it will be the biggest mistake they have taken, their domestic situation is unstable, many protesters are against what Trump is doing.

Today when the west is focused on Israel on the other side the Russian invasion is getting bigger in Ukraine, Zelensky should count himself to fight Russia before believing Nato will support him.

That is so called "rules based order" where some countries think they can impose rules on others, and others are there to obey them

[DaRude]

Ukraine Changes Law on Dual Citizenship
Today, the government estimates the population has fallen further to about 32 million, with a diaspora of roughly 25 million, according to Reuters.
...
Now in its its fourth year, the war has driven more than 5 million Ukrainians to Europe and claimed tens of thousands of lives.

Great news! Looks like Ukraine is finally preparing for elections, and want diaspora to decide the vote. But you might think, how can they make sure that only "proper" diaspora votes, after all, the largest Ukrainian diaspora with millions live in Russia. Don't worry there's a truly democratic solution to that

The Ukrainian government will come up with a list of countries whose citizens are eligible for dual citizenship with Ukraine.

I am sure that the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe, will see nothing wrong with such truly democratic elections

I can't decide which quote is more appropriate here "All Animals Are Equal but Some Animals Are More Equal Than Others" or "It's not the people who vote that count, it's the people who count the votes."

Waiting for paxmao to come with "democratic" explanation.

3...2....1...

I find so cute that all the sudden you care about Democracy that I am going to cry.

There is no explanation, there is a war. Stop the war, go back to Ruzzia, pay reparations, return the children and renounce to violence as a means of solving a conflict, they you will have deserved some explanation. While you consider bombing Ukranian cities as part of any solution, any "explanation" will be lost on you.

"There is no explanation...any "explanation" will be lost on you." those are mutually exclusive, so which one is it? It's not so much me caring about Democracy in Ukraine (lol) but just underlining the double standards and hypocrisy in the EU's selective application of rules and standards. They close their eyes on this but somehow we're supposed to believe what they have to say about elections in Belarus or Russia?

"For my friends, everything; for my enemies, the law"

[BADecker]

Seems that Russia has stopped their advance on the ground toward Kharkiv. They are waiting for the 5,000 N. Korean troops, who will probably drone-proof supply lines for the Russians, much faster than Ukraine can drone-proof supply lines for themselves.

It is worthwhile noting that Russia is making significant further advances on the ground in other areas of Ukraine.

So far, Russia has not used nukes. It is waiting for US to start this in Iran, which the US probably won't do. The US knows that if they start using nukes, Russia just might start doing the same.

It's similar with the idea of bomb killing of leaders. If the US allow Israel to kill Iranian leaders with bombs, then Russia will hunt and assassinate Zelensky and other Ukrainian leaders. Note that Zelensky has tried to assassinate Putin in the past, so we can see that Zelensky is a terrorist for not following general, honorable rules.

[paxmao]

China is supplying Iran, India and China are buying Ruzzian oil at a marverllous discount, Ruzzia transfered missile tech to Iran (even experts in nuclear weapons went into Iran). China passed both nuclear and missile technology to North Korea as the perfect "proxy" to use nukes against Japan or even others without getting officially involved...

Any regime that feels threatened by the US simply groups together. Except perhaps India and - to a point China = that simply take advantage of the stupidity of others (e.g. Putin is stupid enough to get his oil sanctioned, we will buy it at 50% discount to market).

The problem is too complex, all of that is done so as not to always revolve around the US and its allies, and no matter how to continue to follow the US there will be another war, they always make propaganda to divide, none other than the arms business must run, they get money from there. LOL
China is wild, but it takes advantage of the narrowness to maintain the stubbornness of others, this is clever, and therefore China is projected to replace the US as world leader.

Here it smells of interests to achieve their own version of sovereignty, the weak and stupid will be eaten, and today Iran has become an open stage.

Kind of yes. But one must say that Iran has made all the wrong choices - not even from a moral perspective, but from a practical one. It is very clear to absolutely anyone that Israel will not allow Iran to get a nuke and will use whatever means required to avoid it. That includes bringing the US into the war.

Another of those mistakes was to take part in favour or Ruzzia without asking for a good bunch of Ruzzian air defences and material - before the Ukraine war of course, Ruzzia now is not even serving long standing customers.

For the discussion of Nuclear, there have been 5 meetings with mediators from the US to negotiate this and when approaching the 6th meeting Israel carried out unilateral bombings even Trump said that he was not involved with Netanyahu's actions, and the attack left wounds, because not only civilians were victims but high-ranking Iranian officials and Iranian nuclear scientists were victims, the attack was the same as Israel declaring war at the beginning, and Iran responded to it with the same action, is that wrong? okay if your nation is attacked unilaterally where the problem is still in the negotiation stage will you tolerate it? of course not
On the other hand, Israel is also believed to have Nuclear weapons, why can't other countries have them? is this a joke, if you have firearms but you forbid others to have them.

Okay I got news that Russia will invest in my country and they are also willing to teach the use of nuclear technology, will Israel attack us too? what standards should be understood here.

Unfortunately Iran is bold and Putin said that he has not received a request for help from Iran, but they are ready to do it if asked, Iran is the only proxy of Russia in the middle east, if the US gets involved then it will be the biggest mistake they have taken, their domestic situation is unstable, many protesters are against what Trump is doing.

Today when the west is focused on Israel on the other side the Russian invasion is getting bigger in Ukraine, Zelensky should count himself to fight Russia before believing Nato will support him.

That is so called "rules based order" where some countries think they can impose rules on others, and others are there to obey them

Since when Ruzzia or you care about the "rules based order"? Ruzzia has broken every single treaty and is still on the mindset of a colonial superpower.

Again, I find really cute you argument about rules, etc... when Ruzzia is invading Ukraine and shelling cities with missiles.

[BADecker]

^^^ Of course Russia has broken every rules based treaty. But that isn't the point.The point is basically one of two things:
1. There was insufficient understanding of the wording of a treaty, or;
2. Other countries broke the treaties first, thereby nullifying them before Russia.

Of course, we are talking about the Russia after the collapse of the USSR. After all, it was the US and Western Europe people who financed the Bolshevik Revolution in the first place. So you would have to go all the way back to that time to see if the Bolsheviks were really interested in strengthening Russia, or if they were really an arm of the West, trying to take over Russian lands.

Just because most of us are part of the West, and only listen to Western propaganda, doesn't mean that what might be called Russian propaganda by our governments, is not the way of life for the Russians.

The 2022 invasion of Ukraine by Russia, was prompted by the Ukraine invasion of Russia starting before 2014. Western propaganda media didn't explain this part to us. And most of us don't speak Russian to listen to the Russian side. And we don't have time, anyway. So we live with a biased-against-Russia mindset that is wrong, if not entirely wrong.

[paxmao]

^^^ Of course Russia has broken every rules based treaty. But that isn't the point.The point is basically one of two things:
1. There was insufficient understanding of the wording of a treaty, or;
2. Other countries broke the treaties first, thereby nullifying them before Russia.

Of course, we are talking about the Russia after the collapse of the USSR. After all, it was the US and Western Europe people who financed the Bolshevik Revolution in the first place. So you would have to go all the way back to that time to see if the Bolsheviks were really interested in strengthening Russia, or if they were really an arm of the West, trying to take over Russian lands.

Just because most of us are part of the West, and only listen to Western propaganda, doesn't mean that what might be called Russian propaganda by our governments, is not the way of life for the Russians.

The 2022 invasion of Ukraine by Russia, was prompted by the Ukraine invasion of Russia starting before 2014. Western propaganda media didn't explain this part to us. And most of us don't speak Russian to listen to the Russian side. And we don't have time, anyway. So we live with a biased-against-Russia mindset that is wrong, if not entirely wrong.

It may not be the point to you, but it is the point for those people who instead of being posting stupid walltext in this section are actually having to live under the Ruzzian sistematic attack on civils - with no military value whatsoever.

And then you get the trolls here complaining about "rules".

[BADecker]

^^^ Of course Russia has broken every rules based treaty. But that isn't the point.The point is basically one of two things:
1. There was insufficient understanding of the wording of a treaty, or;
2. Other countries broke the treaties first, thereby nullifying them before Russia.

Of course, we are talking about the Russia after the collapse of the USSR. After all, it was the US and Western Europe people who financed the Bolshevik Revolution in the first place. So you would have to go all the way back to that time to see if the Bolsheviks were really interested in strengthening Russia, or if they were really an arm of the West, trying to take over Russian lands.

Just because most of us are part of the West, and only listen to Western propaganda, doesn't mean that what might be called Russian propaganda by our governments, is not the way of life for the Russians.

The 2022 invasion of Ukraine by Russia, was prompted by the Ukraine invasion of Russia starting before 2014. Western propaganda media didn't explain this part to us. And most of us don't speak Russian to listen to the Russian side. And we don't have time, anyway. So we live with a biased-against-Russia mindset that is wrong, if not entirely wrong.

It may not be the point to you, but it is the point for those people who instead of being posting stupid walltext in this section are actually having to live under the Ruzzian sistematic attack on civils - with no military value whatsoever.

And then you get the trolls here complaining about "rules".

You are finally getting it a little. Russia was just protecting itself and its people from attacks by the Ukraine government... attacks that were formulated by the Western banking system using Ukraine to do it to Russia.

This has been going on for so long that if you fail to see it, you are among those who want to steal Russian lands. I'll remind you again, simply search on who financed the Bolshevik Revolution. When the BR failed, the West simply kept on trying in other ways. Many Russian people are happy to live in Russia.

[paxmao]

Hey BA, here goes your "Black Sea Corridor" theory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtSfrERlNL4

^^^ Of course Russia has broken every rules based treaty. But that isn't the point.The point is basically one of two things:
1. There was insufficient understanding of the wording of a treaty, or;
2. Other countries broke the treaties first, thereby nullifying them before Russia.

Of course, we are talking about the Russia after the collapse of the USSR. After all, it was the US and Western Europe people who financed the Bolshevik Revolution in the first place. So you would have to go all the way back to that time to see if the Bolsheviks were really interested in strengthening Russia, or if they were really an arm of the West, trying to take over Russian lands.

Just because most of us are part of the West, and only listen to Western propaganda, doesn't mean that what might be called Russian propaganda by our governments, is not the way of life for the Russians.

The 2022 invasion of Ukraine by Russia, was prompted by the Ukraine invasion of Russia starting before 2014. Western propaganda media didn't explain this part to us. And most of us don't speak Russian to listen to the Russian side. And we don't have time, anyway. So we live with a biased-against-Russia mindset that is wrong, if not entirely wrong.

It may not be the point to you, but it is the point for those people who instead of being posting stupid walltext in this section are actually having to live under the Ruzzian sistematic attack on civils - with no military value whatsoever.

And then you get the trolls here complaining about "rules".

You are finally getting it a little. Russia was just protecting itself and its people from attacks by the Ukraine government... attacks that were formulated by the Western banking system using Ukraine to do it to Russia.

This has been going on for so long that if you fail to see it, you are among those who want to steal Russian lands. I'll remind you again, simply search on who financed the Bolshevik Revolution. When the BR failed, the West simply kept on trying in other ways. Many Russian people are happy to live in Russia.

[BADecker]

Hey BA, here goes your "Black Sea Corridor" theory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtSfrERlNL4

^^^ Of course Russia has broken every rules based treaty. But that isn't the point.The point is basically one of two things:
1. There was insufficient understanding of the wording of a treaty, or;
2. Other countries broke the treaties first, thereby nullifying them before Russia.

Of course, we are talking about the Russia after the collapse of the USSR. After all, it was the US and Western Europe people who financed the Bolshevik Revolution in the first place. So you would have to go all the way back to that time to see if the Bolsheviks were really interested in strengthening Russia, or if they were really an arm of the West, trying to take over Russian lands.

Just because most of us are part of the West, and only listen to Western propaganda, doesn't mean that what might be called Russian propaganda by our governments, is not the way of life for the Russians.

The 2022 invasion of Ukraine by Russia, was prompted by the Ukraine invasion of Russia starting before 2014. Western propaganda media didn't explain this part to us. And most of us don't speak Russian to listen to the Russian side. And we don't have time, anyway. So we live with a biased-against-Russia mindset that is wrong, if not entirely wrong.

It may not be the point to you, but it is the point for those people who instead of being posting stupid walltext in this section are actually having to live under the Ruzzian sistematic attack on civils - with no military value whatsoever.

And then you get the trolls here complaining about "rules".

You are finally getting it a little. Russia was just protecting itself and its people from attacks by the Ukraine government... attacks that were formulated by the Western banking system using Ukraine to do it to Russia.

This has been going on for so long that if you fail to see it, you are among those who want to steal Russian lands. I'll remind you again, simply search on who financed the Bolshevik Revolution. When the BR failed, the West simply kept on trying in other ways. Many Russian people are happy to live in Russia.

As usual, you pick on some Ukrainian strike that will be over in no time. Zelensky is doing it to try to convince Trump and NATO that all they need is a little more money and armament to take Russia down. Once the need to impress Trump and NATO is over, Zelensky's ambitions will collapse. Also, you ignore the fact that Russia is making advances in many other directions.

As is with war, you win some and you lose some. Russia has not started to really fight. Note that they have not used Oreshnik... but they easily could.

I understand. The pain of losing your hopes for Ukraine, and your talk in this forum, makes you want to focus on every little glimmer of hope that you are able to. What you need to do is relax (relapse?) and recognize that this is all simply collapsing the power of the Western banking systems, and that soon you will have to stand on your own two feet rather than sucking off the teat of the American people.

[paxmao]

Hey BA, here goes your "Black Sea Corridor" theory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtSfrERlNL4

^^^ Of course Russia has broken every rules based treaty. But that isn't the point.The point is basically one of two things:
1. There was insufficient understanding of the wording of a treaty, or;
2. Other countries broke the treaties first, thereby nullifying them before Russia.

Of course, we are talking about the Russia after the collapse of the USSR. After all, it was the US and Western Europe people who financed the Bolshevik Revolution in the first place. So you would have to go all the way back to that time to see if the Bolsheviks were really interested in strengthening Russia, or if they were really an arm of the West, trying to take over Russian lands.

Just because most of us are part of the West, and only listen to Western propaganda, doesn't mean that what might be called Russian propaganda by our governments, is not the way of life for the Russians.

The 2022 invasion of Ukraine by Russia, was prompted by the Ukraine invasion of Russia starting before 2014. Western propaganda media didn't explain this part to us. And most of us don't speak Russian to listen to the Russian side. And we don't have time, anyway. So we live with a biased-against-Russia mindset that is wrong, if not entirely wrong.

It may not be the point to you, but it is the point for those people who instead of being posting stupid walltext in this section are actually having to live under the Ruzzian sistematic attack on civils - with no military value whatsoever.

And then you get the trolls here complaining about "rules".

You are finally getting it a little. Russia was just protecting itself and its people from attacks by the Ukraine government... attacks that were formulated by the Western banking system using Ukraine to do it to Russia.

This has been going on for so long that if you fail to see it, you are among those who want to steal Russian lands. I'll remind you again, simply search on who financed the Bolshevik Revolution. When the BR failed, the West simply kept on trying in other ways. Many Russian people are happy to live in Russia.

As usual, you pick on some Ukrainian strike that will be over in no time. Zelensky is doing it to try to convince Trump and NATO that all they need is a little more money and armament to take Russia down. Once the need to impress Trump and NATO is over, Zelensky's ambitions will collapse. Also, you ignore the fact that Russia is making advances in many other directions.

As is with war, you win some and you lose some. Russia has not started to really fight. Note that they have not used Oreshnik... but they easily could.

I understand. The pain of losing your hopes for Ukraine, and your talk in this forum, makes you want to focus on every little glimmer of hope that you are able to. What you need to do is relax (relapse?) and recognize that this is all simply collapsing the power of the Western banking systems, and that soon you will have to stand on your own two feet rather than sucking off the teat of the American people.

Don't be stupid BA, you are the last in your class and you have been all your life. All people get it early and better than you.

As far as I am concern, Iran has been lucky and will continue to help Ruzzia. Curious how petroestates tend to spend the money in buying weapons and keeping their own people quite - there must be some universal law for which this happens written out there in the Olympus.

Trump had a meeting with Zelensky during the NATO sumit. There seems to be a clear posibility of stablishing further aid to Ukraine as Trump finally found out that this war is not an easy thing to solve - Mostly because Putin is not yet willing to make any concession and getting Ruzzia to that point will require one or two more years at least.

[BADecker]

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As usual, you pick on some Ukrainian strike that will be over in no time. Zelensky is doing it to try to convince Trump and NATO that all they need is a little more money and armament to take Russia down. Once the need to impress Trump and NATO is over, Zelensky's ambitions will collapse. Also, you ignore the fact that Russia is making advances in many other directions.

As is with war, you win some and you lose some. Russia has not started to really fight. Note that they have not used Oreshnik... but they easily could.

I understand. The pain of losing your hopes for Ukraine, and your talk in this forum, makes you want to focus on every little glimmer of hope that you are able to. What you need to do is relax (relapse?) and recognize that this is all simply collapsing the power of the Western banking systems, and that soon you will have to stand on your own two feet rather than sucking off the teat of the American people.

Don't be stupid BA, you are the last in your class and you have been all your life. All people get it early and better than you.

As far as I am concern, Iran has been lucky and will continue to help Ruzzia. Curious how petroestates tend to spend the money in buying weapons and keeping their own people quite - there must be some universal law for which this happens written out there in the Olympus.

Trump had a meeting with Zelensky during the NATO sumit. There seems to be a clear posibility of stablishing further aid to Ukraine as Trump finally found out that this war is not an easy thing to solve - Mostly because Putin is not yet willing to make any concession and getting Ruzzia to that point will require one or two more years at least.

Remember one basic thing, paxmao. Jesus says that the last will be first, and the first, last. As long as you reject Jesus, you will remain among the last... always... even if you seem to be first for a little while.

None of us really knows what is going on in this little fight between Russia and the West. But Jesus was raised "higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe," Ephesians 4:10 - https://biblehub.com/niv/ephesians/4.htm. Jesus knows it all and is acting to save as many people for eternal life as He can. The war is an attempt to save people for Heaven and eternal life with God.

Jesus "in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge," Colossians 2:3 - https://biblehub.com/colossians/2-3.htm.

Turn to Jesus while you still have the chance.

[paxmao]

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As usual, you pick on some Ukrainian strike that will be over in no time. Zelensky is doing it to try to convince Trump and NATO that all they need is a little more money and armament to take Russia down. Once the need to impress Trump and NATO is over, Zelensky's ambitions will collapse. Also, you ignore the fact that Russia is making advances in many other directions.

As is with war, you win some and you lose some. Russia has not started to really fight. Note that they have not used Oreshnik... but they easily could.

I understand. The pain of losing your hopes for Ukraine, and your talk in this forum, makes you want to focus on every little glimmer of hope that you are able to. What you need to do is relax (relapse?) and recognize that this is all simply collapsing the power of the Western banking systems, and that soon you will have to stand on your own two feet rather than sucking off the teat of the American people.

Don't be stupid BA, you are the last in your class and you have been all your life. All people get it early and better than you.

As far as I am concern, Iran has been lucky and will continue to help Ruzzia. Curious how petroestates tend to spend the money in buying weapons and keeping their own people quite - there must be some universal law for which this happens written out there in the Olympus.

Trump had a meeting with Zelensky during the NATO sumit. There seems to be a clear posibility of stablishing further aid to Ukraine as Trump finally found out that this war is not an easy thing to solve - Mostly because Putin is not yet willing to make any concession and getting Ruzzia to that point will require one or two more years at least.

Remember one basic thing, paxmao. Jesus says that the last will be first, and the first, last. As long as you reject Jesus, you will remain among the last... always... even if you seem to be first for a little while.

None of us really knows what is going on in this little fight between Russia and the West. But Jesus was raised "higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe," Ephesians 4:10 - https://biblehub.com/niv/ephesians/4.htm. Jesus knows it all and is acting to save as many people for eternal life as He can. The war is an attempt to save people for Heaven and eternal life with God.

Jesus "in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge," Colossians 2:3 - https://biblehub.com/colossians/2-3.htm.

Turn to Jesus while you still have the chance.

BA, create a thread on Jesus and the Christian myths or Budha or my own personal favourite Zeus... or whoever you prefer, here we are more into earthly things - meaning things that are actually there. You should not be mixing what you believe out of faith with what you eyes can see. Even from a Christian perspective is just arrogant from you to go around lecturing.

Niabulina as usual has given what is possibly the only realistic information about the Ruzzian economy - it is streched to the max. The nation's sovereing fund is quite depleted, workforce used up in the useless miitary effort.

[BADecker]

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Remember one basic thing, paxmao. Jesus says that the last will be first, and the first, last. As long as you reject Jesus, you will remain among the last... always... even if you seem to be first for a little while.

None of us really knows what is going on in this little fight between Russia and the West. But Jesus was raised "higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe," Ephesians 4:10 - https://biblehub.com/niv/ephesians/4.htm. Jesus knows it all and is acting to save as many people for eternal life as He can. The war is an attempt to save people for Heaven and eternal life with God.

Jesus "in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge," Colossians 2:3 - https://biblehub.com/colossians/2-3.htm.

Turn to Jesus while you still have the chance.

BA, create a thread on Jesus and the Christian myths or Budha or my own personal favourite Zeus... or whoever you prefer, here we are more into earthly things - meaning things that are actually there. You should not be mixing what you believe out of faith with what you eyes can see. Even from a Christian perspective is just arrogant from you to go around lecturing.

Niabulina as usual has given what is possibly the only realistic information about the Ruzzian economy - it is streched to the max. The nation's sovereing fund is quite depleted, workforce used up in the useless miitary effort.

All you are indicating is that Russia and China will need to support Iran so that Iran can keep on building drones for Russia.

Note that the financial stability of the West will snap when the people realize that it is their banking systems that are stealing from them. Russia and China understand this. It is why they formed BRICS, BRICS which keeps on adding member countries all the time. The West banking system is beyond snapping right now. Only the people are holding it together, sort of.

The whole thing is moving out of a Ukraine/Russia conflict into a world money conflict.

Note that the everything that goes on in the world is tied to Jesus. Nobody can start a non-Jesus thread, since Jesus, along with the Father, created everything, and holds it all together.

[montaga]

All countries are companies, Government the managers, population are stock and the wars are tools for system change and population management.
Putin will just as happy manage the population as Zelenskyy does.
The Covid war was a good indicator of worthy places, some presidents to not make it.

[paxmao]

It seems that Ukranians managed to again strike Ruzzian airplanes in the ground. This is now becoming a trend and seems that Ruzzias security is just not there.

The production of these jets is extremely limited, even if there are not sanctions in place, so these SU 34 are gone for good and they are a few of many to go. I also saw another video of S400 being taken by drones in Crimea... you are going to need to air-defend your air defence.

https://youtu.be/T7XanZ8AJK0?t=11

[betterthanSNnBTC]

Anyone care to tell me when the war started why 1000's of Rabbi's in at least 3 videos I seen were dancing with both flags?

I know at weddings they sometimes dance with both flags, but all 3 of these videos surfaced at the start of that war and they were like stomping on the russian flag, don't think the bride or groom would like that.

You will not find them on youtube anymore they been scrubbed but on some other sites you can still probably find them like world truth or goyim d.

Could it be because they got Whites to kill Whites?

Pssssst Putin
https://www.bitchute.com/video/qnuGl5uc4G2K/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TwWrmMYqy7k
https://vimeo.com/758348950?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Nevermind I am sure he is aware
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OIzqVv9Xn_A
It is funny because he is the entire reason he is there.

There was another crazy one, where they were doing like weird war gestures with both flags cant find it anymore.

Strange people, get off on people dieing.

It is nice all these dum dums meet up every year in person so the drones can lock on their heartbeats.

[BADecker]

It seems that Ukranians managed to again strike Ruzzian airplanes in the ground. This is now becoming a trend and seems that Ruzzias security is just not there.

The production of these jets is extremely limited, even if there are not sanctions in place, so these SU 34 are gone for good and they are a few of many to go. I also saw another video of S400 being taken by drones in Crimea... you are going to need to air-defend your air defence.

https://youtu.be/T7XanZ8AJK0?t=11

This is part of the reason that Russia attacks all over Ukraine with loads of missiles and drones. And they haven't even had to use Oreshnik, yet.

When will the West and Zelensky realize that Ukraine is destroyed, and the only way to save the little that remains is, for Z to step down, and for the new guy who takes his place to surrender.

With hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian guys dead, now is a good time to find yourself a Ukrainian wife... if that's what you want. These women are fed up with war, and are moving out of Ukraine in droves. I wonder what that means for the future of Ukraine.

[paxmao]

It seems that Ukranians managed to again strike Ruzzian airplanes in the ground. This is now becoming a trend and seems that Ruzzias security is just not there.

The production of these jets is extremely limited, even if there are not sanctions in place, so these SU 34 are gone for good and they are a few of many to go. I also saw another video of S400 being taken by drones in Crimea... you are going to need to air-defend your air defence.

https://youtu.be/T7XanZ8AJK0?t=11

This is part of the reason that Russia attacks all over Ukraine with loads of missiles and drones. And they haven't even had to use Oreshnik, yet.

When will the West and Zelensky realize that Ukraine is destroyed, and the only way to save the little that remains is, for Z to step down, and for the new guy who takes his place to surrender.

With hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian guys dead, now is a good time to find yourself a Ukrainian wife... if that's what you want. These women are fed up with war, and are moving out of Ukraine in droves. I wonder what that means for the future of Ukraine.

Pretty much the opposite, Ruzzia was not "attacked and then invaded", Ruzzia invaded in 2014 and now and then Ukraine is defending itself, very effectively I must say. And more effective each day.

Some day in the distant future, there will be a line, an artifical line drawn by some absurd treaty. East of that line you will have a country friendly with EU and the western developed countries. On the other side of that line, you will have a region under the rule of Moscow - a Moscow with a well sunken economy and a well damaged diplomacy.

Of these two, I am sure were would I like to be, but if I had any doubt I would call the Eastern Berliners of the past.

[BADecker]

It seems that Ukranians managed to again strike Ruzzian airplanes in the ground. This is now becoming a trend and seems that Ruzzias security is just not there.

The production of these jets is extremely limited, even if there are not sanctions in place, so these SU 34 are gone for good and they are a few of many to go. I also saw another video of S400 being taken by drones in Crimea... you are going to need to air-defend your air defence.

https://youtu.be/T7XanZ8AJK0?t=11

This is part of the reason that Russia attacks all over Ukraine with loads of missiles and drones. And they haven't even had to use Oreshnik, yet.

When will the West and Zelensky realize that Ukraine is destroyed, and the only way to save the little that remains is, for Z to step down, and for the new guy who takes his place to surrender.

With hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian guys dead, now is a good time to find yourself a Ukrainian wife... if that's what you want. These women are fed up with war, and are moving out of Ukraine in droves. I wonder what that means for the future of Ukraine.

Pretty much the opposite, Ruzzia was not "attacked and then invaded", Ruzzia invaded in 2014 and now and then Ukraine is defending itself, very effectively I must say. And more effective each day.

Some day in the distant future, there will be a line, an artifical line drawn by some absurd treaty. East of that line you will have a country friendly with EU and the western developed countries. On the other side of that line, you will have a region under the rule of Moscow - a Moscow with a well sunken economy and a well damaged diplomacy.

Of these two, I am sure were would I like to be, but if I had any doubt I would call the Eastern Berliners of the past.

You talk so silly. The Contract Clause in the US Constitution has been adjudicated to mean that ANYBODY who contracts 'in', has the right to contract 'out'. Russia has found this out the hard way... by the West breaking its treaties whenever they feel like it.

Russia is only interested in protecting its own. This means that the "artificial line drawn by some absurd treaty" will only happen when the whole West has become Russian States. This will get rid of the lying adjudication of the US Contract Clause.

Russia isn't really interested in doing something like this. But if the West continues to mess with them, they just might feel that it is necessary.