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June 25, 2022, 11:15:20 PM
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Well this is something very interesting, and I hope it happens like this, but I think that the main reason why they want the fight to happen is because of the amount of money that is involved there, I don't see that they do it for the pure interest of boxing, I don't think that it be for that, rather the most logical thing is because of the business model, because the big investors are willing to make juicy millionaire bets, and with respect to the trilogy, that Canelo vs. GGG is something that is good is positive, but in my personal opinion I don't see this fight as exciting, because CANELO has faltered a lot, who I see as good for making good fights is the Russian Bivol.

Terence Crawford vs Errol Spence is one of the most awaited fights for several years. It was highly demanded by most boxing fans around the world. Disregarding the money, they will really meet each other no matter what at the end of the line in the Welterweight Division as they are both undefeated. Money is a factor but there's no other way that these fights should not happen. A total of 4 World Titles are at stake here and it's not just about being money.

If this is a non-title match and these two didn't target each other, then it's a money matter fight but it's not. It's even a must-watch for me compared to GGG vs Canelo III where the former is now in his retirement period and the latter just came from an embarrassing loss against Bivol that he even wasn't able to make it a close fight as a heavy favorite to win in that match.
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June 25, 2022, 11:41:02 PM
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Even though we haven't heard any 'official announcement' yet, might be just sometime now as they might have been ironing out few things before going out in public.

And as mentioned, maybe the date and venue is one obstacles that they have to settled. The network will have to come out as the best place for this fight is, and then the date itself.. I think money wise and split, verbally they could have talk it down already. And we are going to be privilege to witnessed another great fight if this happens this year.

I agree with you. I even think this fight is now almost a deal but just a few things are being properly fixed before the official announcement.

In the first place, there's no other boxer that both Terence Crawford and Errol Spence should fight but between the two of them. Even the majority of boxing analysts and known personalities are throwing their respective opinion that the fight should happen no matter what.

This is a fight that has no excuses or reason to delay or what. We will surely see this fight happening this year. There's no doubt about that. Maybe they are not planning to hold it close to the date of one of the biggest fights also this year, the trilogy between Canelo Alvarez and Gennady Golovkin.
Well this is something very interesting, and I hope it happens like this, but I think that the main reason why they want the fight to happen is because of the amount of money that is involved there, I don't see that they do it for the pure interest of boxing, I don't think that it be for that, rather the most logical thing is because of the business model, because the big investors are willing to make juicy millionaire bets, and with respect to the trilogy, that Canelo vs. GGG is something that is good is positive, but in my personal opinion I don't see this fight as exciting, because CANELO has faltered a lot, who I see as good for making good fights is the Russian Bivol.


Money really matters but it's not the only main reason why these 2 want to fight. There's an unsettled business between Crawford and Spence that is working for progress for a long and they need to put an end to it to see who's the best at their division.

This fight is not just a fight that is organized for nothing.

Crawford currently holds the WBO Welterweight titles
Spence currently holds the IBF, WBA and WBC Welterweight titles

In boxing, there's a so-called unification match and that is a big chance for a boxer to become an undisputed champion in that division. Without a big recognition and good boxing credentials, even a boxer wants to fight for money, but that's all useless as they won't able to make a good ticket sales and PPV views that's why this fight is not just about money for these boxers.

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June 25, 2022, 11:46:20 PM
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Well this is something very interesting, and I hope it happens like this, but I think that the main reason why they want the fight to happen is because of the amount of money that is involved there, I don't see that they do it for the pure interest of boxing, I don't think that it be for that, rather the most logical thing is because of the business model, because the big investors are willing to make juicy millionaire bets, and with respect to the trilogy, that Canelo vs. GGG is something that is good is positive, but in my personal opinion I don't see this fight as exciting, because CANELO has faltered a lot, who I see as good for making good fights is the Russian Bivol.

Terence Crawford vs Errol Spence is one of the most awaited fights for several years. It was highly demanded by most boxing fans around the world. Disregarding the money, they will really meet each other no matter what at the end of the line in the Welterweight Division as they are both undefeated. Money is a factor but there's no other way that these fights should not happen. A total of 4 World Titles are at stake here and it's not just about being money.

If this is a non-title match and these two didn't target each other, then it's a money matter fight but it's not. It's even a must-watch for me compared to GGG vs Canelo III where the former is now in his retirement period and the latter just came from an embarrassing loss against Bivol that he even wasn't able to make it a close fight as a heavy favorite to win in that match.

But to get the date of when they will fight - the purse split matters to their respective promoters.
In some cases, the boxers themselves want to fight as soon as possible.
But the delays originate from their promoters, who are not in agreement with their split.
And yes, Crawford vs Spence Jr, this will definitely happen, only the date is yet to be determined.
They will rake huge money, but getting the 4 world titles would be the best to get from this event.
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June 25, 2022, 11:53:58 PM
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But to get the date of when they will fight - the purse split matters to their respective promoters.
In some cases, the boxers themselves want to fight as soon as possible.
But the delays originate from their promoters, who are not in agreement with their split.
And yes, Crawford vs Spence Jr, this will definitely happen, only the date is yet to be determined.
They will rake huge money, but getting the 4 world titles would be the best to get from this event.

Not in rush as I think whether it's not organized yet or not, the possible date will still be in October or November.

The purse split is really an important matter to discuss but I think they are close on the deal. Maybe there are other issues that need to be addressed and not just the purse split like location, venue, and any others.

But one thing is for sure, we can expect this fight this year. I don't see any reason why it should not happen.
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June 26, 2022, 09:20:42 AM
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But to get the date of when they will fight - the purse split matters to their respective promoters.
In some cases, the boxers themselves want to fight as soon as possible.
But the delays originate from their promoters, who are not in agreement with their split.
And yes, Crawford vs Spence Jr, this will definitely happen, only the date is yet to be determined.
They will rake huge money, but getting the 4 world titles would be the best to get from this event.

Not in rush as I think whether it's not organized yet or not, the possible date will still be in October or November.

The purse split is really an important matter to discuss but I think they are close on the deal. Maybe there are other issues that need to be addressed and not just the purse split like location, venue, and any others.

But one thing is for sure, we can expect this fight this year. I don't see any reason why it should not happen.

If there's anything that they need to settle before signing the contract, they will for sure will talk and sit about it.

The fans are waiting and the promoters and both camps are aware of potential money making fights between these two title
holders, aside from the belt but more on the money side.

They know the value of each other and they just need to clean everything, then schedule the fight and start making
those promotions to attract more fans.
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June 26, 2022, 12:19:18 PM
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But to get the date of when they will fight - the purse split matters to their respective promoters.
In some cases, the boxers themselves want to fight as soon as possible.
But the delays originate from their promoters, who are not in agreement with their split.
And yes, Crawford vs Spence Jr, this will definitely happen, only the date is yet to be determined.
They will rake huge money, but getting the 4 world titles would be the best to get from this event.

Not in rush as I think whether it's not organized yet or not, the possible date will still be in October or November.

The purse split is really an important matter to discuss but I think they are close on the deal. Maybe there are other issues that need to be addressed and not just the purse split like location, venue, and any others.

But one thing is for sure, we can expect this fight this year. I don't see any reason why it should not happen.

As much as they want to fight each other the soonest time, they really have to negotiate first specially the magnitude of this fight. And then we have the ego of this two in equation, but maybe Crawford will give in to the 60/40 split just to make this fight happen. I think the location can be settled in as usually the venue have been reserved by major promoters and networks, it's who is going to fight on that said date.

This fight is going to happen this year no doubt about it. We will just have to wait for the announcement and then press conference will kick off and we can see the trash talking start.

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June 26, 2022, 12:51:06 PM
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Well this is something very interesting, and I hope it happens like this, but I think that the main reason why they want the fight to happen is because of the amount of money that is involved there, I don't see that they do it for the pure interest of boxing, I don't think that it be for that, rather the most logical thing is because of the business model, because the big investors are willing to make juicy millionaire bets, and with respect to the trilogy, that Canelo vs. GGG is something that is good is positive, but in my personal opinion I don't see this fight as exciting, because CANELO has faltered a lot, who I see as good for making good fights is the Russian Bivol.

Terence Crawford vs Errol Spence is one of the most awaited fights for several years. It was highly demanded by most boxing fans around the world. Disregarding the money, they will really meet each other no matter what at the end of the line in the Welterweight Division as they are both undefeated. Money is a factor but there's no other way that these fights should not happen. A total of 4 World Titles are at stake here and it's not just about being money.

If this is a non-title match and these two didn't target each other, then it's a money matter fight but it's not. It's even a must-watch for me compared to GGG vs Canelo III where the former is now in his retirement period and the latter just came from an embarrassing loss against Bivol that he even wasn't able to make it a close fight as a heavy favorite to win in that match.

But to get the date of when they will fight - the purse split matters to their respective promoters.
In some cases, the boxers themselves want to fight as soon as possible.
But the delays originate from their promoters, who are not in agreement with their split.
And yes, Crawford vs Spence Jr, this will definitely happen, only the date is yet to be determined.
They will rake huge money, but getting the 4 world titles would be the best to get from this event.

Crawford though doesn't have any promoter as of this time, and he should be representing himself in the trade. Maybe that is the hindrance as they want to make the split in favor of Spence, and as we have been discussing, 60-40. So it depends on how Crawford will look at it. Of course, both have the belts and undefeated and this fight might unification in 147 lbs.

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June 26, 2022, 06:30:21 PM
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Well this is something very interesting, and I hope it happens like this, but I think that the main reason why they want the fight to happen is because of the amount of money that is involved there, I don't see that they do it for the pure interest of boxing,

I have to disagree with this. Terence Crawford is looking forward to fighting Spence for too long and now it happened. On the other hand, Errol Spence holds lots of titles, and the only title he needs to snatch to unify the welterweight division is the one on Crawford.

Obviously and of course, money plays a big factor here but a unification match is necessary between boxers with hold titles.

I can't believe you conclude already that these boxers don't have a pure interest in boxing that's why they will face each other.

Yes indeed, it's not the money they're after that they choose to settle this fight because Crawford has been calling for this match for quite a long time now but Spence was avoiding back that time. This time this fight will materialize for sure as Spence is also showing some interest to Crawford and in fact, both camps are under negotiations for this upcoming fight.

This undisputed fight is anticipated by a lot of fans and the boxing community, money is just a by-product of the clash of these two undefeated boxers in welterweight division.

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June 26, 2022, 11:40:31 PM
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As much as they want to fight each other the soonest time, they really have to negotiate first specially the magnitude of this fight. And then we have the ego of this two in equation, but maybe Crawford will give in to the 60/40 split just to make this fight happen. I think the location can be settled in as usually the venue have been reserved by major promoters and networks, it's who is going to fight on that said date.

I think there's no problem for Terence Crawford accepting the much small split on 60/40. After all, unifying all the titles is much more important as it will establish Crawford as one of the great Welterweight who holds several titles. That will also make him a boxer to beat by those other high names.

The problem is, if Spence wants a much higher share which it's totally not making sense now regardless of his ability to sold-out tickets and generate money on all of his PPV fights. That was just speculation though and I'm sure we are just excited about the official announcement. Smiley

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June 26, 2022, 11:50:35 PM
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But to get the date of when they will fight - the purse split matters to their respective promoters.
In some cases, the boxers themselves want to fight as soon as possible.
But the delays originate from their promoters, who are not in agreement with their split.
And yes, Crawford vs Spence Jr, this will definitely happen, only the date is yet to be determined.
They will rake huge money, but getting the 4 world titles would be the best to get from this event.

Not in rush as I think whether it's not organized yet or not, the possible date will still be in October or November.

The purse split is really an important matter to discuss but I think they are close on the deal. Maybe there are other issues that need to be addressed and not just the purse split like location, venue, and any others.

But one thing is for sure, we can expect this fight this year. I don't see any reason why it should not happen.

As much as they want to fight each other the soonest time, they really have to negotiate first specially the magnitude of this fight. And then we have the ego of this two in equation, but maybe Crawford will give in to the 60/40 split just to make this fight happen. I think the location can be settled in as usually the venue have been reserved by major promoters and networks, it's who is going to fight on that said date.

This fight is going to happen this year no doubt about it. We will just have to wait for the announcement and then press conference will kick off and we can see the trash talking start.

Agree with. This fight has no reason why should it not happen.

Spence already mentioned that he will fight Crawford before deciding to moved-up weight. The same goal also to Crawford before deciding to move-up weight. These boxers have the same goal - to unify the Welterweight division titles and that is something difficult to achieve.

If only these boxers was in the same with Pacquiao, I think they won't even stand a chance to become a unified champion. Smiley
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Agree with. This fight has no reason why should it not happen.

Spence already mentioned that he will fight Crawford before deciding to moved-up weight. The same goal also to Crawford before deciding to move-up weight. These boxers have the same goal - to unify the Welterweight division titles and that is something difficult to achieve.

If only these boxers was in the same with Pacquiao, I think they won't even stand a chance to become a unified champion. Smiley

I hope both parties already agreed on the split of revenue because I read that that's the main problem why this fight might not happen. Spence is trying to get a higher percentage because he has more belts while Crawford wants a 50/50 share, I don't know but if they will not agree then this fight will remain on paper only.
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Agree with. This fight has no reason why should it not happen.

Spence already mentioned that he will fight Crawford before deciding to moved-up weight. The same goal also to Crawford before deciding to move-up weight. These boxers have the same goal - to unify the Welterweight division titles and that is something difficult to achieve.

If only these boxers was in the same with Pacquiao, I think they won't even stand a chance to become a unified champion. Smiley

I hope both parties already agreed on the split of revenue because I read that that's the main problem why this fight might not happen. Spence is trying to get a higher percentage because he has more belts while Crawford wants a 50/50 share, I don't know but if they will not agree then this fight will remain on paper only.

Someone will have to give an inch and I think this will be Crawford so that the fight is going to happen. We don't have to hear so many excuses, Crawford try to eliminate the first hurdle by not signing with Top Rank again and then Spence Jr, holding his move up in weight at 154 lbs and challenge Charlo.

If this fight is not going to happen then it's too bad for us. Probably this fight will not happen if the first negotiations will bog down, Crawford is not getting any younger and should be pursuing big fights like this before he retires.

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If this fight is not going to happen then it's too bad for us. Probably this fight will not happen if the first negotiations will bog down, Crawford is not getting any younger and should be pursuing big fights like this before he retires.

Yes, that's too bad as it was anticipated by most boxing fans in the world. But for me, that will happen.

Lots of time to prepare for this if the supposed target month is October or even on the 1st quarter of 2023 but that was already too long waiting.

If ever the fight won't happen, both will likely meet at the Super Welterweight but there are big names here that they will meet like Jermell Charlo, Brian Castano, Erislandy Lara etc. Charlo is one of Crawford's targets in the future. We should just trust the process as both boxers really gives us hints that this fight will happen for real without anyone standing in their way.

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Agree with. This fight has no reason why should it not happen.

Spence already mentioned that he will fight Crawford before deciding to moved-up weight. The same goal also to Crawford before deciding to move-up weight. These boxers have the same goal - to unify the Welterweight division titles and that is something difficult to achieve.

If only these boxers was in the same with Pacquiao, I think they won't even stand a chance to become a unified champion. Smiley

I hope both parties already agreed on the split of revenue because I read that that's the main problem why this fight might not happen. Spence is trying to get a higher percentage because he has more belts while Crawford wants a 50/50 share, I don't know but if they will not agree then this fight will remain on paper only.

Someone will have to give an inch and I think this will be Crawford so that the fight is going to happen. We don't have to hear so many excuses, Crawford try to eliminate the first hurdle by not signing with Top Rank again and then Spence Jr, holding his move up in weight at 154 lbs and challenge Charlo.

If this fight is not going to happen then it's too bad for us. Probably this fight will not happen if the first negotiations will bog down, Crawford is not getting any younger and should be pursuing big fights like this before he retires.

Agree with you there. Terence Crawford should adjust if it's about the split 60/40. If Spence is asking too much although there's no report about it, then that's a problem. There's no news yet that was released about the progress of this fight so we all left with lots of questions.

July is approaching and hopefully, we can now hear some progressive news about the fight that will be one of the biggest fights this year. Crawford and Spence should now finished their book and we will now witnessed who's the best at the Welterweight.
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If this fight is not going to happen then it's too bad for us. Probably this fight will not happen if the first negotiations will bog down, Crawford is not getting any younger and should be pursuing big fights like this before he retires.

Yes, that's too bad as it was anticipated by most boxing fans in the world. But for me, that will happen.

Lots of time to prepare for this if the supposed target month is October or even on the 1st quarter of 2023 but that was already too long waiting.

If ever the fight won't happen, both will likely meet at the Super Welterweight but there are big names here that they will meet like Jermell Charlo, Brian Castano, Erislandy Lara etc. Charlo is one of Crawford's targets in the future. We should just trust the process as both boxers really gives us hints that this fight will happen for real without anyone standing in their way.

i don't think crawford will pass this one. both, spence & crawford will get their huge paycheck if this will push thru. and i believe, crawford will accept the 60-40 split here, in favour of spence jr. because spence jr has more belts than him. so it is only fair that spence jr will get the bigger share. this will be one of the anticipated boxing fights in the next coming months. so expect some exchange of words between these two. we will also get hints what they are asking for from their tweets or any other social media rants..

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A lot of rumors spreading in the boxing world that these two will fight this October. Hopefully it is true. Crawford should not tolerate Spence avoiding and prolonging this fight because he is already 35. His age is actually ripe and ready to be taken out anytime. Only casuals in boxing won't see how Spence team is trying to play the waiting game ever since. Crawford in October is like inactive for nearly a year and that's another disadvantage. Maybe he should threaten PBC that if the fight with Spence still won't happen this year then he signs with DAZN and activate his option as WBO mandatory on undisputed champion Jermell Charlo. That will force a possible purse bid that is so winnable by the richer DAZN.

And Canelo just said that Bud is the better fighter. But time is really not on Bud's side. Time flies so fast, Crawford is now joining these old but great fighters Usyk, Beterbiev and GGG.

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A lot of rumors spreading in the boxing world that these two will fight this October. Hopefully it is true.

Well since the rumored fight date is Oct, 29th 2022 let's wait till Floyd Mayweather gives a date other than this one. On the other hand, I respect both fighters. Both are very talented. Crawford is my favorite and my money is on him. The way I see it Crawford is going to seriously punish Spence. It will end in one of these two ways, a late stoppage or a KO. No doubt about it. If your money is on Spence you are going to lose, don't say you weren't told.

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A lot of rumors spreading in the boxing world that these two will fight this October. Hopefully it is true.

Well since the rumored fight date is Oct, 29th 2022 let's wait till Floyd Mayweather gives a date other than this one. \

What does Mayweather have to do with this fight? Sorry, I don't follow, is he one of the promoters of this fight?

I also believe that Crawford will win this fight, there's no way the fight will end on the judges' scorecards, one should be KO here or TKO.

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A lot of rumors spreading in the boxing world that these two will fight this October. Hopefully it is true.

Well since the rumored fight date is Oct, 29th 2022 let's wait till Floyd Mayweather gives a date other than this one. \

What does Mayweather have to do with this fight? Sorry, I don't follow, is he one of the promoters of this fight?

I also believe that Crawford will win this fight, there's no way the fight will end on the judges' scorecards, one should be KO here or TKO.

I'm also at lost, neither of the two has something to do with Floyd? Maybe the fight might be in Las Vegas, hometown of Floyd, but it doesn't mean that he has control of the venue in the city?

Anyhow, if there are a lot of rumors, then maybe this fight is going to be made, we will have to wait. October is like 4 months from now, plenty of time for them to sign the contract.

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A lot of rumors spreading in the boxing world that these two will fight this October. Hopefully it is true. Crawford should not tolerate Spence avoiding and prolonging this fight because he is already 35. His age is actually ripe and ready to be taken out anytime. Only casuals in boxing won't see how Spence team is trying to play the waiting game ever since. Crawford in October is like inactive for nearly a year and that's another disadvantage. Maybe he should threaten PBC that if the fight with Spence still won't happen this year then he signs with DAZN and activate his option as WBO mandatory on undisputed champion Jermell Charlo. That will force a possible purse bid that is so winnable by the richer DAZN.

And Canelo just said that Bud is the better fighter. But time is really not on Bud's side. Time flies so fast, Crawford is now joining these old but great fighters Usyk, Beterbiev and GGG.

I hope Spence really does have some plans on fighting against Crawford this year because he can't just give us a ride for nothing and Crawford should have another option to force Spence because he's really seems having Crawford in a waiting game to give himself more advantage, he surely knows to himself that Crawford is really a threat to his record.

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