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August 03, 2022, 05:59:43 PM
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As far as the sharing of purses is concerned, the best guess is that Crawford understands that he has no power to demand the greater cut because he ain't have the most food on the table. My opinion about this matter is that Spence is really taking his time to drag the fight more, he wanted this to happen but he thinks that it is yet not the right time.
Yes, of course, he has no power to demand a high cut or even an even cut because Spence is still a better PPV attraction than him and has more achievements in terms of the belts they are currently holding. Crawford should accept the terms of Spence as long as it's reasonable to make this fight happen.

That is right! Although we know somehow that Crawford himself knows that he doesn't have any bargaining power at the table unless his cut will be lower than 40% then I think Crawford and his camp start to reconsider that if that is the case. Apart from that, I don't really know why it takes so long in giving some updates about their fight and Spence is really silent these days.

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August 03, 2022, 06:38:55 PM
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As far as the sharing of purses is concerned, the best guess is that Crawford understands that he has no power to demand the greater cut because he ain't have the most food on the table. My opinion about this matter is that Spence is really taking his time to drag the fight more, he wanted this to happen but he thinks that it is yet not the right time.
Yes, of course, he has no power to demand a high cut or even an even cut because Spence is still a better PPV attraction than him and has more achievements in terms of the belts they are currently holding. Crawford should accept the terms of Spence as long as it's reasonable to make this fight happen.
And beside he really wanted to make this to happen and Spence will make it sure that he will take the big slice

from the potential profits coming from PPV, Crawford should agree and make things to happen. It's been a long waited fight between
these two champs. It's good to see them both inside the same ring and throwing solid punches at one another. It's a desire inside
them to impress the fans and make sure that the worth of their stake is something that will inspire them to win.

Yes, it seems that Crawford is stalling the fight? Or the other way other?

Spence will have the largest slice of the pie so I don't know what keeps him or PBC from not pushing this fight. Are they still looking for more profits? Or the guarantee price is not enough? And both of them have been showing intention to fight many years ago and now that they are negotiating, it seems that there are a lot of issues. And we have heard the date of October, but to be honest, this date might not be satisfied.

That is a kind of question where we cannot really give some speculation as the answer only relies to the both camps because they are the ones who are in the discussions and knows the true deal about this fight. But as for profits concern, I can say that this fight is already sold out even if this fight is still under discussion meaning this will be a blockbuster fight which frankly might be on the list of the fight that generates a lot of revenue along with the likes of Pacquiao, Canelo, and Mayweather.
But to answer your question that if Crawford is the one stalling the fight, I bet he isn't because he doesn't have the time to get this fight dragged as he will be inactive this November and he is not getting any younger as he will add another number to his age this year, September.

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August 03, 2022, 08:19:13 PM
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Yeah, so far it's very hard to really see where this is going. On the other hand, others are very excited, including myself to hear at least a very encouraging news from the head of showtime boxing.

On the other hand, if the fight is at a standstill and no one is willing to give an inch as far as money is concern, then this might never happen. Not sure what will be the best option for Crawford at this point since PBC has the most number of 147 lbs.

One of them needs to adjust to finalize the contract and for the fans to witness who's the best from this division.

Crawford, though, is the one that being pointed for certain adjustment since Spence seems to keep avoiding him, if he's willing
to push the fight adjusting with the pay-cut is the best thing that he can do to push Spence and his camp to sign the contract
for them both to start their real trainings.

The fight won't materialize if this keeps on happening because it's quite clear that Spence is still trying to avoid the fight or make the fight longer after he said that he is coming for Crawford's belt after he won against Ugas recently. Spence is not in a bad situation here because he had a fight recently compared to Crawford that will be inactive for a year this coming months.
Crawford also said that if this fight won't happen this year then he will go for Jermell Charlo in the super welterweight so that he will at least have one fight this year after all the waiting game of Spence.

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August 04, 2022, 06:59:28 AM
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Crawford also said that if this fight won't happen this year then he will go for Jermell Charlo in the super welterweight so that he will at least have one fight this year after all the waiting game of Spence.

That's a great idea, why would he wait for Spence if the champion is afraid of him, fighting Jermell Charlo and beating him will give Crawford another recognition and it will surely make him ahead of Spence in terms of ranking if he is not yet ahead now.
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August 04, 2022, 04:30:00 PM
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Yeah, so far it's very hard to really see where this is going. On the other hand, others are very excited, including myself to hear at least a very encouraging news from the head of showtime boxing.

On the other hand, if the fight is at a standstill and no one is willing to give an inch as far as money is concern, then this might never happen. Not sure what will be the best option for Crawford at this point since PBC has the most number of 147 lbs.

One of them needs to adjust to finalize the contract and for the fans to witness who's the best from this division.

Crawford, though, is the one that being pointed for certain adjustment since Spence seems to keep avoiding him, if he's willing
to push the fight adjusting with the pay-cut is the best thing that he can do to push Spence and his camp to sign the contract
for them both to start their real trainings.

The fight won't materialize if this keeps on happening because it's quite clear that Spence is still trying to avoid the fight or make the fight longer after he said that he is coming for Crawford's belt after he won against Ugas recently. Spence is not in a bad situation here because he had a fight recently compared to Crawford that will be inactive for a year this coming months.
Crawford also said that if this fight won't happen this year then he will go for Jermell Charlo in the super welterweight so that he will at least have one fight this year after all the waiting game of Spence.

Better to move forward if there's nothing to negotiate, if even he tries to call for this fight and is willing to adjust and still

nothing from Spence camp, he can go and find an alternative to keep his fighting composure intact. It's a best decision from him and his
camp to look for another fighter to challenge. It will be an additional recognition in case he is able to beat Charlo, bringing him another
belt to defend and add additional hype to his name and to his fighting value.
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August 04, 2022, 09:14:16 PM
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Yeah, so far it's very hard to really see where this is going. On the other hand, others are very excited, including myself to hear at least a very encouraging news from the head of showtime boxing.

On the other hand, if the fight is at a standstill and no one is willing to give an inch as far as money is concern, then this might never happen. Not sure what will be the best option for Crawford at this point since PBC has the most number of 147 lbs.

One of them needs to adjust to finalize the contract and for the fans to witness who's the best from this division.

Crawford, though, is the one that being pointed for certain adjustment since Spence seems to keep avoiding him, if he's willing
to push the fight adjusting with the pay-cut is the best thing that he can do to push Spence and his camp to sign the contract
for them both to start their real trainings.

The fight won't materialize if this keeps on happening because it's quite clear that Spence is still trying to avoid the fight or make the fight longer after he said that he is coming for Crawford's belt after he won against Ugas recently. Spence is not in a bad situation here because he had a fight recently compared to Crawford that will be inactive for a year this coming months.
Crawford also said that if this fight won't happen this year then he will go for Jermell Charlo in the super welterweight so that he will at least have one fight this year after all the waiting game of Spence.

You got a point but let's be optimistic for now that this undisputed fight will happen this year somewhere before the month of December because it's clear that they are engaged into talks but unfortunately, it's quite longer than we expected because Spence really said that he's coming to get Crawford's belt. We waited enough for this that is why I really hope that this will happen sooner.

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August 04, 2022, 09:31:14 PM
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Crawford also said that if this fight won't happen this year then he will go for Jermell Charlo in the super welterweight so that he will at least have one fight this year after all the waiting game of Spence.

That's a great idea, why would he wait for Spence if the champion is afraid of him, fighting Jermell Charlo and beating him will give Crawford another recognition and it will surely make him ahead of Spence in terms of ranking if he is not yet ahead now.

Right? Why should he stay and be inactive for almost or over a year from a fight that is not yet clear to happen, this might be a big fight because the winner in this fight will be the undisputed boxer in the welterweight division but he cannot force himself if Spence is really playing another game. He should go against Charlo and I reckon that will be a better decision rather than waiting for Spence.

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August 04, 2022, 11:44:49 PM
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Crawford also said that if this fight won't happen this year then he will go for Jermell Charlo in the super welterweight so that he will at least have one fight this year after all the waiting game of Spence.

That's a great idea, why would he wait for Spence if the champion is afraid of him, fighting Jermell Charlo and beating him will give Crawford another recognition and it will surely make him ahead of Spence in terms of ranking if he is not yet ahead now.

Sounds like an easy thing to do hehe.

Spence is not afraid. Come on, give it more time until there's an announcement that the fight now officially won't happen. Why not just chillax and chill while waiting for some updates? For sure, if the negotiations will be a failed one, there is PLAN B for both boxers.

And don't underestimate Jermell Charlo as he's far more dangerous to me compared with Errol Spence.

Saying easily that if Crawford will beat Charlo is something you shouldn't easily say.

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August 04, 2022, 11:53:51 PM
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You got a point but let's be optimistic for now that this undisputed fight will happen this year somewhere before the month of December because it's clear that they are engaged into talks but unfortunately, it's quite longer than we expected because Spence really said that he's coming to get Crawford's belt. We waited enough for this that is why I really hope that this will happen sooner.

Yes and since there's no choice but to wait, we have to wait. They don't have to adjust for us and there's no such thing that they need to throw official information regularly for the satisfaction of the fans. Although we are now approaching the 4Q of this year, we should still say optimistically that there is good progress happening without us knowing it.

I'm sure this fight will commence this year. No excuses or no standing on their way to make it happened.
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August 04, 2022, 11:59:44 PM
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Crawford also said that if this fight won't happen this year then he will go for Jermell Charlo in the super welterweight so that he will at least have one fight this year after all the waiting game of Spence.

That's a great idea, why would he wait for Spence if the champion is afraid of him, fighting Jermell Charlo and beating him will give Crawford another recognition and it will surely make him ahead of Spence in terms of ranking if he is not yet ahead now.

Sounds like an easy thing to do hehe.

Spence is not afraid. Come on, give it more time until there's an announcement that the fight now officially won't happen. Why not just chillax and chill while waiting for some updates? For sure, if the negotiations will be a failed one, there is PLAN B for both boxers.

And don't underestimate Jermell Charlo as he's far more dangerous to me compared with Errol Spence.

Saying easily that if Crawford will beat Charlo is something you shouldn't easily say.

Let's wait further notice or announcement from the facilitator of both sides. This year is the expecting year of fight so let's wait for more announcement but if this fight will not be happen for sure their Plan B is good as we all know that jermell Charlo is not just easy opponent so this is a good match up as well. But the main purpose here is spence vs Crawford and  it's better if this fight will happen.
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August 05, 2022, 03:41:53 AM
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Crawford also said that if this fight won't happen this year then he will go for Jermell Charlo in the super welterweight so that he will at least have one fight this year after all the waiting game of Spence.

That's a great idea, why would he wait for Spence if the champion is afraid of him, fighting Jermell Charlo and beating him will give Crawford another recognition and it will surely make him ahead of Spence in terms of ranking if he is not yet ahead now.

Sounds like an easy thing to do hehe.

Spence is not afraid. Come on, give it more time until there's an announcement that the fight now officially won't happen. Why not just chillax and chill while waiting for some updates? For sure, if the negotiations will be a failed one, there is PLAN B for both boxers.

And don't underestimate Jermell Charlo as he's far more dangerous to me compared with Errol Spence.

Saying easily that if Crawford will beat Charlo is something you shouldn't easily say.

Let's wait further notice or announcement from the facilitator of both sides. This year is the expecting year of fight so let's wait for more announcement but if this fight will not be happen for sure their Plan B is good as we all know that jermell Charlo is not just easy opponent so this is a good match up as well. But the main purpose here is spence vs Crawford and  it's better if this fight will happen.

At least he has a plan B which I'm sure everyone will agree a good fight. With Crawford's plan, it only tells that he is not afraid of fighting anyone as Jermell Charlo is also a great fighter. 35 wins (19 KO), boy, that is something, he should be a good challenge for Crawford.

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You got a point but let's be optimistic for now that this undisputed fight will happen this year somewhere before the month of December because it's clear that they are engaged into talks but unfortunately, it's quite longer than we expected because Spence really said that he's coming to get Crawford's belt. We waited enough for this that is why I really hope that this will happen sooner.

Yes and since there's no choice but to wait, we have to wait. They don't have to adjust for us and there's no such thing that they need to throw official information regularly for the satisfaction of the fans. Although we are now approaching the 4Q of this year, we should still say optimistically that there is good progress happening without us knowing it.

I'm sure this fight will commence this year. No excuses or no standing on their way to make it happened.

For sure both camps are aware about it, fans are trying to hype to push the fight to happen,

but likewise, there is no obligation from both camps to keep providing updates. They are just doing their job in terms
of looking for good terms for both ends, to sign the contract.

What we can do for now is to wait for further update, if there's something interesting for sure the social media world
will be polluted by news about this possible upcoming fights.
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You got a point but let's be optimistic for now that this undisputed fight will happen this year somewhere before the month of December because it's clear that they are engaged into talks but unfortunately, it's quite longer than we expected because Spence really said that he's coming to get Crawford's belt. We waited enough for this that is why I really hope that this will happen sooner.

Yes and since there's no choice but to wait, we have to wait. They don't have to adjust for us and there's no such thing that they need to throw official information regularly for the satisfaction of the fans. Although we are now approaching the 4Q of this year, we should still say optimistically that there is good progress happening without us knowing it.

I'm sure this fight will commence this year. No excuses or no standing on their way to make it happened.

For sure both camps are aware about it, fans are trying to hype to push the fight to happen,

but likewise, there is no obligation from both camps to keep providing updates. They are just doing their job in terms
of looking for good terms for both ends, to sign the contract.

What we can do for now is to wait for further update, if there's something interesting for sure the social media world
will be polluted by news about this possible upcoming fights.
They let us make our own speculation so this fight will get more attention. Until now, we still have no idea if the fight would really push through this year but all of us are optimistic that it will happen. A positive update on the fight will add more on the exciting of waiting the fight, so hopefully that will come soon.
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What we can do for now is to wait for further update, if there's something interesting for sure the social media world
will be polluted by news about this possible upcoming fights.


This is one of the times in the history of boxing that fighters want to fight each other but have a hard time closing the deal, there are too many politics and promoters want the best deal for their promotions, gone are the days when great fighters fight each other for legacy, this deprives the boxing community, they should take the opportunity in three years time they may not be as strong as they are right now.
There are new faces coming into the welterweight division and soon these new faces will just ram these two fighters.

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Yeah if Crawford vs Spence fight did not happen then the Plan B can take it which a fighter who have 35 wins (19kO) charlo can fight and this fight also a good fight against Crawford we all know that charlo is very tough opponent and it's a good fighter to challenge the skill of Crawford. But as I said yesterday all we can do is to stay tuned and wait for more updates if Crawford vs spence still happen or not.
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They let us make our own speculation so this fight will get more attention. Until now, we still have no idea if the fight would really push through this year but all of us are optimistic that it will happen. A positive update on the fight will add more on the exciting of waiting the fight, so hopefully that will come soon.

Still, lots of time to wait if ever the fight is expected to happen this 4Q of the year.

As the early speculation stated, the fight is supposed to be in September right? Therefore since it's now August and no update yet, we can throw that expectation and begin expecting it moving on to October. If there's no update until September, then again, we can throw the speculation that October is not the month.

The worst is that by October and there's still no update, we should not expect this fight to happen this year but move forward now to next year. It's a waste of year if no fight happened between these 2 this year. They should fight other boxers now if, in October, the deal is not yet clear.

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August 05, 2022, 03:21:49 PM
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Even some sports-related websites are concerned if we will see Crawford and Spence bout this year, 2022.

Will we actually see Terence Crawford vs Errol Spence Jr in 2022?

Boxing history is littered with fights that happened too late, but this one is now or never

They have much more legit sources and known insiders compared to all of us here obviously. If they are not also sure since they don't receive any updates then maybe there are really no actions currently taking place now and both sides are just on waiting game status.

This is alarming if we don't hear something good this month up to next month. But again, patience.

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Yeah if Crawford vs Spence fight did not happen then the Plan B can take it which a fighter who have 35 wins (19kO) charlo can fight and this fight also a good fight against Crawford we all know that charlo is very tough opponent and it's a good fighter to challenge the skill of Crawford. But as I said yesterday all we can do is to stay tuned and wait for more updates if Crawford vs spence still happen or not.

I think there's no PLAN B as they are focused on materializing this fight rather than considering the other options. For now, we really need to extend our patience until the very last days of this year before giving up on our expectations that this fight will not happen. As much as doing research, we can't really see anywhere, on any source, about a good status happening on the plan.

But come to think of it, since there is also no bad news or any hints that this fight will be a failed negotiation, we should hope that this fight will really happen.
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Let's skip for now the discussion about the issue of being "delayed" on any information or updates regarding this fight.

What's your input and feedback guys about Danny Garcia's recent statement that Errol Spence Jr. is too strong for Terence Crawford. When we say "too strong" it means he views the fight as a landslide victory in favor of Spence. I respect his view and even though I'm looking forward to Spence winning at this mega-bout, saying Spence is too much for Crawford is like underestimating the latter.

Errol Spence "too strong" for Terence Crawford says Danny Garcia

Well, I don't know, but perhaps García handles a type of information that is very different from what we normally see or handle, but he is referring to having bias because perhaps he has information on how the type of training of both boxers has been, and obviously he leans towards the one with the best preparation and the toughest type of training, but sometimes this type of statement puts the other boxer on notice, and that can change the course of things, because it is sending him a message that It's missing a bit and Garcia may be right for now, but that can all change, and now more than ever.

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Yeah if Crawford vs Spence fight did not happen then the Plan B can take it which a fighter who have 35 wins (19kO) charlo can fight and this fight also a good fight against Crawford we all know that charlo is very tough opponent and it's a good fighter to challenge the skill of Crawford. But as I said yesterday all we can do is to stay tuned and wait for more updates if Crawford vs spence still happen or not.

I think there's no PLAN B as they are focused on materializing this fight rather than considering the other options. For now, we really need to extend our patience until the very last days of this year before giving up on our expectations that this fight will not happen. As much as doing research, we can't really see anywhere, on any source, about a good status happening on the plan.

But come to think of it, since there is also no bad news or any hints that this fight will be a failed negotiation, we should hope that this fight will really happen.

Well, despite the fact that there is no Plan B or something similar, I am completely sure that things can work out in our favor and they do, I don't know, many things may happen but it is very likely that they will take the demands into account, a negotiation regarding this could be unsuccessful, everyone wants and knows that this fight must take place.

From the point of view of the boxers if they need it, in part I know they want it, but they have to work on it. Many speculate that Crawford will sweep Spence, but this is something I would not trust, both fighters know they need to win, losing is not an option for either of them.

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Let's skip for now the discussion about the issue of being "delayed" on any information or updates regarding this fight.

What's your input and feedback guys about Danny Garcia's recent statement that Errol Spence Jr. is too strong for Terence Crawford. When we say "too strong" it means he views the fight as a landslide victory in favor of Spence. I respect his view and even though I'm looking forward to Spence winning at this mega-bout, saying Spence is too much for Crawford is like underestimating the latter.

Errol Spence "too strong" for Terence Crawford says Danny Garcia

Well, I don't know, but perhaps García handles a type of information that is very different from what we normally see or handle, but he is referring to having bias because perhaps he has information on how the type of training of both boxers has been, and obviously he leans towards the one with the best preparation and the toughest type of training, but sometimes this type of statement puts the other boxer on notice, and that can change the course of things, because it is sending him a message that It's missing a bit and Garcia may be right for now, but that can all change, and now more than ever.
Danny Garcia lost to Spence by decision so that's probably the reason why he is crediting Spence a lot. It's like, he is still a force to reckon with because he lost to the best guy in the division. Though I seldom read nor hear any interviews from Danny Garcia and his twat dad, I did follow his career even before he became a world champion. He and especially his dad always feel they are the center of the boxing world.

The better way to listen to or read an analysis IMO is from Kell Brook and Shawn Porter as both fought Spence and Crawford. Timothy Bradley haven't faced Crawford and Spence but I do like his non biased analysis too. I'll bet all these 3 fighters will probably say Crawford is way way better than Spence if asked between the two.

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