[Boxing] Crawford vs Spence

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

I share the same view, this fight won't happen this year just like what they first forecasted it because in the first place, if they want to make the fight happen then both camps should've done the right thing and wouldn't make the discussion so long. Maybe it's time for Crawford to face another boxer while their discussion between Spence's camp is blurry.

Crawford might be the first one to fight in super welter because I heard Spence have his mandatory fight if this won't happen.

I read some articles about this and it's interesting to see some ex-boxers talking about it like Bradley said a while ago who said the same thing because they won't be fighting this year.
And I think this is quite reasonable because even though there will definitely be some hype about this that will be raised but when you see that it is now at the end of 2022 then indeed the opportunity to fight for this year is a little difficult and maybe next year it can still happen if one of the camps does not avoid it. again

Actually about this fight my expectations were too high and I had too much hope so that it was destroyed and I personally feel disappointed, but indeed this happened because of my expectations so that when they decided not to fight it was difficult for me to force.

There's not enough time for training anymore, so this fight is not gonna happen this year, however, it would be better if we will know when it will happen so our effort of hyping the fight won't be wasted. As a fan, we like to see this undisputed fight, both fighters are great, so it's definitely a great entertainment for the fans, they just have to agree on the split, or they should not be afraid to risk their undefeated record.

Well they have been teasing us of a November date and this is as early when this thread was open by the OP. And yet, in several months, nothing solid had happen, except like agreement in terms but in seems only verbal. So there is nothing concrete, so they will continue to tease us with this fight. Not sure if the problem is the split, maybe one corner (Spence), doesn't want this fight, in my opinion. Or they will wait till they see Crawford performance is going downhill.

[goinmerry]

There's not enough time for training anymore, so this fight is not gonna happen this year, however, it would be better if we will know when it will happen so our effort of hyping the fight won't be wasted. As a fan, we like to see this undisputed fight, both fighters are great, so it's definitely a great entertainment for the fans, they just have to agree on the split, or they should not be afraid to risk their undefeated record.

They always have enough time to train. It's not that they will just start training once the fight is announced lol.

Even during negotiations or even before, they are now training because later or sooner, that negotiation will be official. And let's say the fight is not pushed anymore, there's always a next plan that's why they won't stop doing their regular training.

As for everyone here, we can now forget this fight happening this year. Doesn't mean though that it won't happened anymore but there's still next year or so.

[Pamadar]

There's not enough time for training anymore, so this fight is not gonna happen this year, however, it would be better if we will know when it will happen so our effort of hyping the fight won't be wasted. As a fan, we like to see this undisputed fight, both fighters are great, so it's definitely a great entertainment for the fans, they just have to agree on the split, or they should not be afraid to risk their undefeated record.

They always have enough time to train. It's not that they will just start training once the fight is announced lol.

Even during negotiations or even before, they are now training because later or sooner, that negotiation will be official. And let's say the fight is not pushed anymore, there's always a next plan that's why they won't stop doing their regular training.

As for everyone here, we can now forget this fight happening this year. Doesn't mean though that it won't happened anymore but there's still next year or so.

If they have that intensions to proceed, then negotiations will continue in between, maybe not for this year or maybe it won't happen.

The reality of these fights will continue to rely on the decisions of both camps. They are the only venue who
can be reliable in providing information if ever they are still willing to move forward and offer this fight for the
fans and for the whole boxing industry.

[Hypnosis00]

There's not enough time for training anymore, so this fight is not gonna happen this year, however, it would be better if we will know when it will happen so our effort of hyping the fight won't be wasted. As a fan, we like to see this undisputed fight, both fighters are great, so it's definitely a great entertainment for the fans, they just have to agree on the split, or they should not be afraid to risk their undefeated record.

They always have enough time to train. It's not that they will just start training once the fight is announced lol.

Even during negotiations or even before, they are now training because later or sooner, that negotiation will be official. And let's say the fight is not pushed anymore, there's always a next plan that's why they won't stop doing their regular training.

As for everyone here, we can now forget this fight happening this year. Doesn't mean though that it won't happened anymore but there's still next year or so.

If they have that intensions to proceed, then negotiations will continue in between, maybe not for this year or maybe it won't happen.

The reality of these fights will continue to rely on the decisions of both camps. They are the only venue who
can be reliable in providing information if ever they are still willing to move forward and offer this fight for the
fans and for the whole boxing industry.

I think negotiation is already happening but it's not over yet, or the negotiation has failed and they just don't want to disappoint us that's why they are not making an official announcement yet. Well, it's really hard to continue to expect when there's no developing good news, so it's better to be more realistic now that still being tied with the hype of this fight.

[freedomgo]

My own realizations to this is Spence and his advisors are not ready for Crawford. What would be the next move for Spence this will not come into fruition? 

I think it's Crawford's camp that questioned the clarity of the contract that is supposed to be done now. They are the ones who requested a clear view of the terms that are not being clear by Spence's side. Even Crawford is building his legacy, never he will allow Spence's camp to just put some terms just in favor of them.

Anyhow, if this fight won't push through, I think both Crawford and Spence have Plan B. If I remember it right, they are vocal about who's their preferred target if this fight won't take place.

Spence and his promoter cannot provide and not willing to provide all the details in order to clarify them. They are delaying everything. Why not just tell Crawford the truth instead of playing tricky games.

I read a comment here Ennis is next for Spence. The kid has an amazing record and majority of his wins by knockouts. A fantastic test for Spence. Crawford can move forward to the next division maybe.

We cannot really verify that information if Spence and his camp are the ones who are trying to delay the fight as much as possible, though we could point out blindly because we can somehow say that they are really behind the delays but as I said, we cannot really verify that claim because Crawford is still hoping to make the fight happen and he probably knows what is the real deal as he is in the discussion. Let's see what will be the development of this fight in the coming few weeks.

[carlisle1]

My own realizations to this is Spence and his advisors are not ready for Crawford. What would be the next move for Spence this will not come into fruition? 

I think it's Crawford's camp that questioned the clarity of the contract that is supposed to be done now. They are the ones who requested a clear view of the terms that are not being clear by Spence's side. Even Crawford is building his legacy, never he will allow Spence's camp to just put some terms just in favor of them.

Anyhow, if this fight won't push through, I think both Crawford and Spence have Plan B. If I remember it right, they are vocal about who's their preferred target if this fight won't take place.

Spence and his promoter cannot provide and not willing to provide all the details in order to clarify them. They are delaying everything. Why not just tell Crawford the truth instead of playing tricky games.

I read a comment here Ennis is next for Spence. The kid has an amazing record and majority of his wins by knockouts. A fantastic test for Spence. Crawford can move forward to the next division maybe.

We cannot really verify that information if Spence and his camp are the ones who are trying to delay the fight as much as possible, though we could point out blindly because we can somehow say that they are really behind the delays but as I said, we cannot really verify that claim because Crawford is still hoping to make the fight happen and he probably knows what is the real deal as he is in the discussion. Let's see what will be the development of this fight in the coming few weeks.

There's no update or any confirmation about that, either Spence itself or his handlers who's making the delay or
there's something deeper behind why the fight still pending.

Maybe they are working on it and both fighters are already in their trainings to make sure that they are prepared
enough once the fight push thru.

Fans are still hoping and who knows they will both agree and they will make things happen still.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

My own realizations to this is Spence and his advisors are not ready for Crawford. What would be the next move for Spence this will not come into fruition? 

I think it's Crawford's camp that questioned the clarity of the contract that is supposed to be done now. They are the ones who requested a clear view of the terms that are not being clear by Spence's side. Even Crawford is building his legacy, never he will allow Spence's camp to just put some terms just in favor of them.

Anyhow, if this fight won't push through, I think both Crawford and Spence have Plan B. If I remember it right, they are vocal about who's their preferred target if this fight won't take place.

Spence and his promoter cannot provide and not willing to provide all the details in order to clarify them. They are delaying everything. Why not just tell Crawford the truth instead of playing tricky games.

I read a comment here Ennis is next for Spence. The kid has an amazing record and majority of his wins by knockouts. A fantastic test for Spence. Crawford can move forward to the next division maybe.

We cannot really verify that information if Spence and his camp are the ones who are trying to delay the fight as much as possible, though we could point out blindly because we can somehow say that they are really behind the delays but as I said, we cannot really verify that claim because Crawford is still hoping to make the fight happen and he probably knows what is the real deal as he is in the discussion. Let's see what will be the development of this fight in the coming few weeks.

Obviously, no one will admit to that fact, whoever is delaying or what. however, as fans, we heard that Spence or at least his camp has difficulty in negotiating because of Top Rank. And now that Top Rank is out of the picture, the fight is still delayed. Which makes us speculate that Spence side is the one holding up this fight. So as for the development, maybe it's better to put this fight aside this year and just not expect it from happening.

[Baofeng]

I share the same view, this fight won't happen this year just like what they first forecasted it because in the first place, if they want to make the fight happen then both camps should've done the right thing and wouldn't make the discussion so long. Maybe it's time for Crawford to face another boxer while their discussion between Spence's camp is blurry.

Crawford might be the first one to fight in super welter because I heard Spence have his mandatory fight if this won't happen.

I read some articles about this and it's interesting to see some ex-boxers talking about it like Bradley said a while ago who said the same thing because they won't be fighting this year.
And I think this is quite reasonable because even though there will definitely be some hype about this that will be raised but when you see that it is now at the end of 2022 then indeed the opportunity to fight for this year is a little difficult and maybe next year it can still happen if one of the camps does not avoid it. again

Bradley though has turned into a boxing analyst for some networks, so obviously he will have to talk about this fight specially that he has campaign in this division. About the hype? yes, obviously it is there even we know that the fight is not going to happen at least for this year.

Actually about this fight my expectations were too high and I had too much hope so that it was destroyed and I personally feel disappointed, but indeed this happened because of my expectations so that when they decided not to fight it was difficult for me to force.

Of course, as boxing fans, our expectations are going to be high for this fight to happen, both are champion and again, prime vs prime. Unfortunately, both sides are not agreeing in some terms that's why at least for this year, the November fight is cancelled.

[agustina2]

Of course, as boxing fans, our expectations are going to be high for this fight to happen, both are champion and again, prime vs prime. Unfortunately, both sides are not agreeing in some terms that's why at least for this year, the November fight is cancelled.

I'm also not expecting this fight to happen this month. But chances to happen maybe next year. Boxing fans should not expect this fight anymore but next year, lots of time to fix the issues of why this fight didn't happen this year.

If next year, the fight still has not happened, they say goodbye forever on their bout. That was unfortunate.

[AmoreJaz]

Of course, as boxing fans, our expectations are going to be high for this fight to happen, both are champion and again, prime vs prime. Unfortunately, both sides are not agreeing in some terms that's why at least for this year, the November fight is cancelled.

I'm also not expecting this fight to happen this month. But chances to happen maybe next year. Boxing fans should not expect this fight anymore but next year, lots of time to fix the issues of why this fight didn't happen this year.

If next year, the fight still has not happened, they say goodbye forever on their bout. That was unfortunate.

not this month, but recent article says it may happen nov 12 or 19. though we all know that it won't happen if both camps didn't reach to their agreements. they may not have reached to their final purse split here. as crawford is seemingly favoured by bookies, crawford's camp may ask more than 40% cut. but we don't know what is their bottleneck here.

[goinmerry]

Of course, as boxing fans, our expectations are going to be high for this fight to happen, both are champion and again, prime vs prime. Unfortunately, both sides are not agreeing in some terms that's why at least for this year, the November fight is cancelled.

I'm also not expecting this fight to happen this month. But chances to happen maybe next year. Boxing fans should not expect this fight anymore but next year, lots of time to fix the issues of why this fight didn't happen this year.

If next year, the fight still has not happened, they say goodbye forever on their bout. That was unfortunate.

not this month, but recent article says it may happen nov 12 or 19. though we all know that it won't happen if both camps didn't reach to their agreements. they may not have reached to their final purse split here. as crawford is seemingly favoured by bookies, crawford's camp may ask more than 40% cut. but we don't know what is their bottleneck here.

Maybe you are outdated. That was the original date but if you looked at some news recently, there's a problem with the terms.

The November bout has a big chance of not happening anymore.

The fight is failed to make officially happened and we can't forget this happening this year.

[Yaunfitda]

Of course, as boxing fans, our expectations are going to be high for this fight to happen, both are champion and again, prime vs prime. Unfortunately, both sides are not agreeing in some terms that's why at least for this year, the November fight is cancelled.

I'm also not expecting this fight to happen this month. But chances to happen maybe next year. Boxing fans should not expect this fight anymore but next year, lots of time to fix the issues of why this fight didn't happen this year.

If next year, the fight still has not happened, they say goodbye forever on their bout. That was unfortunate.

*Sigh*, but true, we should not expect the match to happen anytime soon, there are no media update and seems both boxers might be looking for the next biggest alternative at 147-154 lbs.

Maybe they are going to push it next year, who knows, maybe after they have a separate fight and win against tough opponent, the hype could still be there for us boxing fans. But this year? say goodbye to it.

[harizen]

Pacquiao wants Spence vs. Crawford winner

Manny Pacquiao was asked if he’d be interested in fighting the Errol Spence Jr vs. Terence Crawford winner and his response was "why not if that's possible?".

To make that happen though, he needs to come out from retirement.

not this month, but recent article says it may happen nov 12 or 19. though we all know that it won't happen if both camps didn't reach to their agreements.

The recent articles about the progress of this fight are leading to a failure of the negotiations.

You can refer to what I posted here last week.

[bbc.reporter]

Pacquiao wants Spence vs. Crawford winner

Manny Pacquiao was asked if he’d be interested in fighting the Errol Spence Jr vs. Terence Crawford winner and his response was "why not if that's possible?".

To make that happen though, he needs to come out from retirement.

I like Pacman, I respect what he has done in the sport of boxing, however, I did not know that he is presently a comedian. If he won versus Ugas to hold the WBA welterweight championship, I will think maybe there is an argument for Pacman. However, Ugas was gave a very convincing performance and has shown Pacman's old age.

I honestly have not read the article yet. This might be another sarcastic statement from Pacman and the sports news media are turning it into clickbait hehe.

[Sanitough]

Pacquiao wants Spence vs. Crawford winner

Manny Pacquiao was asked if he’d be interested in fighting the Errol Spence Jr vs. Terence Crawford winner and his response was "why not if that's possible?".

To make that happen though, he needs to come out from retirement.

I like Pacman, I respect what he has done in the sport of boxing, however, I did not know that he is presently a comedian. If he won versus Ugas to hold the WBA welterweight championship, I will think maybe there is an argument for Pacman. However, Ugas was gave a very convincing performance and has shown Pacman's old age.

I honestly have not read the article yet. This might be another sarcastic statement from Pacman and the sports news media are turning it into clickbait hehe.

Pacman is not done yet if he thinks he can still fight, he still has the fans and I think if there was not changes of opponent, there's a chance that he can give Spence a big problem in the fight in case he would still lose. He is a very discipline man, and I think fans would still want to see him, so why not?

[chaser15]

Pacman is not done yet if he thinks he can still fight, he still has the fans and I think if there was not changes of opponent, there's a chance that he can give Spence a big problem in the fight in case he would still lose. He is a very discipline man, and I think fans would still want to see him, so why not?

I also think Pacman can still fight. Just give him a serious focus unlike during the time when he was training in preparation against Spence Jr where aside from boxing, lots of things were on his schedule that's why he ended up losing on Spence's replacement Yordenis Ugas aside from the injury before the fight.

Prior to that Pacman's interest on he's willing to take either Spence or Crawford, the unification fight should happen officially first. But unfortunately at this point, it's nowhere can be happened now and the chances are low of that fight taking place this year.

[agustina2]

I honestly have not read the article yet. This might be another sarcastic statement from Pacman and the sports news media are turning it into clickbait hehe.

It's legit and I think no sarcastic comments or being hyped by the media.

That was during the press conference of Manny Pacquiao's exhibition match against the Korean Youtuber DK Yoo.

Another question asked is if it's possible for him to face Mayweather Jr. again but he responded that the latter is scared of him now lol.

Back to the topic, with Crawford and Spence's active boxing lifestyle, I doubt Pacquiao can still go head-to-head against them.

[Japinat]

Back to the topic, with Crawford and Spence's active boxing lifestyle, I doubt Pacquiao can still go head-to-head against them.

That depends on Pacman's lifestyle during his retirement period, we have to remember also that Spence was into a serious car accident but he was able to come back strong and still win a fight, so it's no different with Pacman's rest in boxing, maybe the only difference is that he is already old now.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Best guess is that both camps are already training because their forecasted date is approaching fast, they only have less than 2 months left to prepare and train. Maybe that's the same reason why they are so silent these days after we received an information that they've already reached a deal.

They will only train if the fight is already official, there's no reason for them to train hard with their team if there's no announcement yet, unless they know it's going to happen and promoters are just waiting for the right time to announce, what I'm saying is, if they start training for nothing, they will just be wasting money.

But this fighters are elite, and they have to stay in shape even at off season. And this is the secret of some of the best of them like Floyd and Manny or even Hopkins during his prime. This boxers keeps themselves in around their fighting weight by maybe doing some like trainings at home. Floyd and Manny loves to play basketball.

And so when the official fight is announced, they will just shift gears and focus 100% on the training itself. So they are not wasting money, they've just trying to get the edge.

The word is already out, we are just waiting for their final approach to make this official. They are aiming for November, it's already safe to say that both camps have already started their respective trainings even if there's no official announcement yet. They are the ones who know the real deal and they won't be wasting this far if a fight between Spence and Crawford is impossible this year, especially the latter. I don't think that Crawford will wait and settle until Spence is ready because he will be inactive for a year this coming November too.

And I agree, even if the fight is not yet settled, training is already part of their routine to keep and maintain their shape especially in times like this that there's only little time left to prepare. This is an undisputed fight, we already know that both fights will really come prepared.

Untrue

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/34696677/errol-spence-jr-terence-crawford-title-fight-risk-dispute-contract-details-sources-say

Looks like contract details aren't coming together.  No way a fight happens in November.  My guess is that Crawford is going to want to get in a fight before this one if this ever happens now.  This fight has to happen wish they would just squash the contract details and meet both half way to make this happen.

This is something ugly if it doesn't happen, for me the one who most wants this fight to happen is Crawford, but in case Spence backs down, this won't even count, then everything that has been speculated, many fans They are waiting for this fight, I was one of those who believed that this fight would take place in November and before the World Cup in Qatar, if this fight does not take place before this date, it will hardly happen later, the bettors and all the attention will go to football without Without a doubt, it is where the money and the sapusetas will move in great quantity, for me this has a core, there is someone very powerful who does not want this fight to take place, I do not know, everything seems very strange to me.

I honestly have not read the article yet. This might be another sarcastic statement from Pacman and the sports news media are turning it into clickbait hehe.

It's legit and I think no sarcastic comments or being hyped by the media.

That was during the press conference of Manny Pacquiao's exhibition match against the Korean Youtuber DK Yoo.

Another question asked is if it's possible for him to face Mayweather Jr. again but he responded that the latter is scared of him now lol.

Back to the topic, with Crawford and Spence's active boxing lifestyle, I doubt Pacquiao can still go head-to-head against them.

Well, these things fill me with joy, because I would like to know if Pacquiao will really fight against the winner of this fight, honestly if Pacquiao returns I don't care if it's with Spence or with Crawford, I just want to see Pacquiao finally fight with great zeal, a fighter like Pacquiao if he returns to the Ring is a reason to have a living legend and that we can enjoy the good that all the veteran of this boxer can show, however between Crawford and Spence I would like Kambosos to win, that it be different history this time, because if it were a Crawford vs. Pacquiao for me it would be the fight of the year, I wouldn't mind another fight.

Back to the topic, with Crawford and Spence's active boxing lifestyle, I doubt Pacquiao can still go head-to-head against them.

That depends on Pacman's lifestyle during his retirement period, we have to remember also that Spence was into a serious car accident but he was able to come back strong and still win a fight, so it's no different with Pacman's rest in boxing, maybe the only difference is that he is already old now.

Well, I know that many people are looking for Pacquiao to lose because many say that age does not help him, but unlike many sports, I believe that age in boxing has very little influence, a boxer with more experience and experience is better, Combiana his experience plus his intelligence and now he has a great advantage over any boxer, for me this is something that can happen and be seen as I said before, the fight of the year, for me it could mean the return of a legend that can mark the guideline, and with respect to Mayweather Jr, I already believe that this is not possible, I sincerely rule it out with respect to Mayweather, besides that the fights are like very tangled, for me there is no emotion.


Here many more incidents:

Manny Pacquiao sensationally claims he wants Errol Spence vs Terence Crawford winner

Pacquiao, who is regarded as one of the best pound-for-pound fighters of his generation, fought well into his older years before deciding to hang up the gloves.

There has been continual suggestion that Pacquiao could get back into the ring to partake in exhibition bouts, but could he make a return to professional boxing at the highest level?

Perhaps. Pacquiao has refused to rule out the possibility of pursuing the winner of Errol Spence vs Terrence Crawford and challenging for world titles once again.

Source: https://www.benchwarmers.ie/pacquiao-wants-spence-crawford-winner/254920/

Big news is what Pacquiao generates. I hope he cheers up and we see him again.

[mirakal]

I share the same view, this fight won't happen this year just like what they first forecasted it because in the first place, if they want to make the fight happen then both camps should've done the right thing and wouldn't make the discussion so long. Maybe it's time for Crawford to face another boxer while their discussion between Spence's camp is blurry.

Crawford might be the first one to fight in super welter because I heard Spence have his mandatory fight if this won't happen.

I read some articles about this and it's interesting to see some ex-boxers talking about it like Bradley said a while ago who said the same thing because they won't be fighting this year.
And I think this is quite reasonable because even though there will definitely be some hype about this that will be raised but when you see that it is now at the end of 2022 then indeed the opportunity to fight for this year is a little difficult and maybe next year it can still happen if one of the camps does not avoid it. again

Actually about this fight my expectations were too high and I had too much hope so that it was destroyed and I personally feel disappointed, but indeed this happened because of my expectations so that when they decided not to fight it was difficult for me to force.

There's not enough time for training anymore, so this fight is not gonna happen this year, however, it would be better if we will know when it will happen so our effort of hyping the fight won't be wasted. As a fan, we like to see this undisputed fight, both fighters are great, so it's definitely a great entertainment for the fans, they just have to agree on the split, or they should not be afraid to risk their undefeated record.

Well they have been teasing us of a November date and this is as early when this thread was open by the OP. And yet, in several months, nothing solid had happen, except like agreement in terms but in seems only verbal. So there is nothing concrete, so they will continue to tease us with this fight. Not sure if the problem is the split, maybe one corner (Spence), doesn't want this fight, in my opinion. Or they will wait till they see Crawford performance is going downhill.

What I'm curious about is why does Crawford still holding on to this fight? It's almost clear that the opposite camp is playing games on him to make their chances on winning go higher, in my opinion, Crawford must fight another opponent while this undisputed fight is not on play.