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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
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December 05, 2022, 12:03:08 PM
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Tuchel would have been the best coach for Chelsea but they missed him by  sacking him. Chelsea does not have patience  , they are always too fast to sack their coach .
You also don't need to judge Chelsea like that because the top officials at the Chelsea club also know how to make the team develop and become better in the hands of their new coach at this time. So just wait and see how the Chelsea team develops in the future because for now Chelsea has to fix everything that is needed so there is no need to judge how things are now. Due to the presence of a new coach into the squad
What is clear is that the team and all Chelsea staff know the truth, so the decision chosen is probably the best.
Outsiders don't know the exact truth, although in my opinion and maybe others Tuchel is a good coach who in my opinion should be given one last chance, but everything has its heyday.
and it's too early for Graham Potter to build Chelsea and we can only see what happens next.
Graham Potter had to act fast to fix everything in Chelsea's body. Everyone knows that Graham Potter came to Chelsea at a time when Chelsea were in a bad situation, that's why Chelsea chose to make the decision to fire Thomas Tuchel.
I hope Graham Potter doesn't suffer the same fate as the previous coach which led to his dismissal. He has to show that Chelsea is not mistaken in appointing him as a replacement for Thomas Tuchel.

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December 05, 2022, 12:20:37 PM
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Tuchel would have been the best coach for Chelsea but they missed him by  sacking him. Chelsea does not have patience  , they are always too fast to sack their coach .
You also don't need to judge Chelsea like that because the top officials at the Chelsea club also know how to make the team develop and become better in the hands of their new coach at this time. So just wait and see how the Chelsea team develops in the future because for now Chelsea has to fix everything that is needed so there is no need to judge how things are now. Due to the presence of a new coach into the squad
The arrival of a new coach will have an impact on the style of play, Chelsea also needs to equip Potter with great players to repeat the success that Tuchel has inscribed. Now is not the time to compare old coaches with new coaches, Potter has just taken charge of Chelsea and he needs time to build a Chelsea squad to get back to competing with elite clubs in the UCL. The presence of several new players is really needed by Potter, Chelsea must move in the transfer market to maintain the chance of surviving in the UCL all the way to the final.

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December 05, 2022, 12:57:54 PM
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I heard an interesting version that one of the reasons Tuchel was fired was that he divorced his wife and started a relationship with a girl who is much younger than him. Thus, he lost the respect of the team and the confidence of the players that Tuchel focused on football. Naturally, this was not the only reason, there is always a complex of different reasons, but at a certain moment this also played a role and shifted the scales towards dismissal.
Being the subject of gossip in dressing room, reportedly a lot more tempting xD but which I know another reason is business that doesn't conformable with Boehly. Chelsea, currently have better players, can look more capable of being a big team threat but the last few games before the break, they performed very badly even against Brighton. Is it possible Potter will be able to make Chelsea successful at least in the top 4 positions?

At the moment, bookmakers are quoting Chelsea's odds of getting into the top 4 as 4.50. In fact, it's only 25% - very little for such a big team, but given the level of competition (including new ones like Newcastle), I agree with the bookmakers. Potter has a very difficult task ahead of him and I'll be interested to see how the management decides if he fails to secure Chelsea a place in the Champions League next year.

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Manchester City has had a great draw with RB Leipzig now. Then Bayern Munich and PSG have a difficult draw against each other. It was also sensational that Benfice finished first in the group, and who would believe that they managed to win by so many goals? Presumably the next round will be the final station for Benfica. And what can we expect from Liverpool - Real Madrid? Last season's final was pretty boring, and Liverpool just couldn't get into their game. Madrid actually won this game quite easily, having been knocked out for 99% 3 games in a row before. Benzema then saved the title.
The match between Real madrid and Liverpool will be an interesting match, because the two teams have met many times and it has always been a defeat for Liverpool. Liverpool will try their best so that the same results as the previous results are not repeated in this match. Real Madrid have a very good record when they meet each time, even though they shouldn't underestimate Liverpool.

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December 05, 2022, 01:09:48 PM
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Graham Potter had to act fast to fix everything in Chelsea's body. Everyone knows that Graham Potter came to Chelsea at a time when Chelsea were in a bad situation, that's why Chelsea chose to make the decision to fire Thomas Tuchel.
I hope Graham Potter doesn't suffer the same fate as the previous coach which led to his dismissal. He has to show that Chelsea is not mistaken in appointing him as a replacement for Thomas Tuchel.
When Potter first entered Chelsea and started his first game as a coach at Chelsea everything looked so promising but slowly Chelsea seemed to be returning to the Tuchel era which was difficult to win, replacing Tuchel with Potter was actually quite surprising because Tuchel had more international experience with several big clubs, maybe Chelsea management sees Potter as having good potential because previously club he coached BHA quite stable in the EPL, we have to wait and see what Potter can do in after World Cup break whether it will bring good changes to Chelsea

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I heard an interesting version that one of the reasons Tuchel was fired was that he divorced his wife and started a relationship with a girl who is much younger than him. Thus, he lost the respect of the team and the confidence of the players that Tuchel focused on football. Naturally, this was not the only reason, there is always a complex of different reasons, but at a certain moment this also played a role and shifted the scales towards dismissal.
I'm not sure if this story is true because if Tuchel actually did something like this it will be serious issue that will be heard in all corners but this stories sounds like a rumor,  if this led to the sack of tuchel I don't think chelsea won't let it  know to the public and fans. The reason tuchel was sacked is because chelsea was not performing very well.
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Chelsea coach Graham Potter is not very experienced. The most renowned club he has coached in his career is Chelsea. So it would be foolish to expect him to bring the Chelsea team to the title, or to improve Chelsea's performance very quickly. We are not sure if Graham Potter will be able to do anything good at all. So I don't have much faith in Graham Potter. Thomas Tuchal was more experienced than Potter. He could not stabilize the team this season. Chelsea need talented players now. I don't think Chelsea's performance will improve if they don't add talented players to the team.
It is understandable that we wouldn't see them succeed on their first year with him, and he didn't even controlled the transfer window neither, he wasn't here, and he was put in charge a lot later which is a proof that Chelsea is not ready to play his style just yet.

However, if given enough time I believe that he could turn the team around and be a lot better, will be a bit difficult to handle but he can totally do that if given the chance. They will have a bit of bad results until they settle, but if given the chance for another year next season, he will do a lot better if you ask me, with all this money it is hard not to be a lot better.
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I heard an interesting version that one of the reasons Tuchel was fired was that he divorced his wife and started a relationship with a girl who is much younger than him. Thus, he lost the respect of the team and the confidence of the players that Tuchel focused on football. Naturally, this was not the only reason, there is always a complex of different reasons, but at a certain moment this also played a role and shifted the scales towards dismissal.
I'm not sure if this story is true because if Tuchel actually did something like this it will be serious issue that will be heard in all corners but this stories sounds like a rumor,  if this led to the sack of tuchel I don't think chelsea won't let it  know to the public and fans. The reason tuchel was sacked is because chelsea was not performing very well.
True, so far I have not heard that Thomas Tuchel did anything that is talked about here. Even if that was the reason, it would be a big mistake for Chelsea to make it public. Because after all it is an internal matter between the Thomas Tuchel family and I don't think Chelsea has the right to speak out about that.
From the start, the reason for Chelsea's dismissal of Thomas Tuchel was because their game was far from satisfactory.

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I want to ask, what do you think. which new coach is suitable for Chelsea, who was able to bring Cheslea to win the Premier League trophy as well as the Champions League in his first season as a coach, with the players available, plus several injuries, and others underperformed.

I think the answer is simple for this. The right manager for Chelsea has always been Thomas Tuchel. Just because of not meeting some criteria of the board Tuchel was sacked. It wasn't for only the bad start to the season in fact. You can't expect any manager to be too consistent every time in the end. Tuchel achieved great successes with Chelsea as you said. He had a bad start in this one maybe but he could have made things right for the team if he was given a little more time. The fans must also be unhappy about this change now.

Tuchel's situation was similar to Klopp. Klopp is also facing bad times with Liverpool in the league this season despite playing solidly in the Champions League. But Liverpool board must be trusting him fully for the sake of his great achievements with the team so far.

My question is a coach other than Thomas Tuchel, who deserves to replace Potter. and you have answered yourself, that Chelsea's current situation and condition is unfavorable with the underperforming performance of its players, plus injured players and that's why Chelsea's performance declined which in the end Tuchel was fired regardless of the club's internal polemic behind it.

like you said, we can't expect any manager to be consistent all the time. even Tuchel himself had a bad season, and you say Tuchel can improve things and it takes time to fix it. So, especially for a new coach. at least, Potter also needs time to be able to recover the performance of his new troop, he needs chemistry with his players, he also needs some experimentation with the available players. so don't expect Chelsea to instantly perform great again with injured players and others underperforming. at least, let's give him time and appreciate the effort to rebuild Chelsea.

even if Potter failed to lead Chelsea to a top four finish, he would be sacked. for Tuchel, he is the past of Chelsea. maybe in the next season, he will coach a new club. in Jurrgen Klopp's case, if he is unable to lead Liverpool to a top-four Premier League finish. it is likely that his career will end, unless Klopp is able to bring the Champions League Trophy to Anfield, Liverpool headquarters.

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December 05, 2022, 04:34:11 PM
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Chelsea coach Graham Potter is not very experienced. The most renowned club he has coached in his career is Chelsea. So it would be foolish to expect him to bring the Chelsea team to the title, or to improve Chelsea's performance very quickly. We are not sure if Graham Potter will be able to do anything good at all. So I don't have much faith in Graham Potter. Thomas Tuchal was more experienced than Potter. He could not stabilize the team this season. Chelsea need talented players now. I don't think Chelsea's performance will improve if they don't add talented players to the team.
It is understandable that we wouldn't see them succeed on their first year with him, and he didn't even controlled the transfer window neither, he wasn't here, and he was put in charge a lot later which is a proof that Chelsea is not ready to play his style just yet.

However, if given enough time I believe that he could turn the team around and be a lot better, will be a bit difficult to handle but he can totally do that if given the chance. They will have a bit of bad results until they settle, but if given the chance for another year next season, he will do a lot better if you ask me, with all this money it is hard not to be a lot better.
The question is, how much time did Graham Potter need to get Chelsea to the title? This is a problem of course, because if it takes too long Chelsea management and fans will get fed up with having to wait long, especially if Graham Potter can't quickly build Chelsea. Like it or not, he had to build Chelsea from scratch, because the squad he had was inherited from their previous coach, Thomas Tuchel.
I hope that if Graham Potter is given longer chances in charge of Chelsea he won't let down those who put the faith in him. Because there are still many coaches who in my opinion are better than him now who are more trustworthy.

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December 05, 2022, 05:20:05 PM
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Chelsea coach Graham Potter is not very experienced. The most renowned club he has coached in his career is Chelsea. So it would be foolish to expect him to bring the Chelsea team to the title, or to improve Chelsea's performance very quickly. We are not sure if Graham Potter will be able to do anything good at all. So I don't have much faith in Graham Potter. Thomas Tuchal was more experienced than Potter. He could not stabilize the team this season. Chelsea need talented players now. I don't think Chelsea's performance will improve if they don't add talented players to the team.
It is understandable that we wouldn't see them succeed on their first year with him, and he didn't even controlled the transfer window neither, he wasn't here, and he was put in charge a lot later which is a proof that Chelsea is not ready to play his style just yet.

However, if given enough time I believe that he could turn the team around and be a lot better, will be a bit difficult to handle but he can totally do that if given the chance. They will have a bit of bad results until they settle, but if given the chance for another year next season, he will do a lot better if you ask me, with all this money it is hard not to be a lot better.
The question is, how much time did Graham Potter need to get Chelsea to the title? This is a problem of course, because if it takes too long Chelsea management and fans will get fed up with having to wait long, especially if Graham Potter can't quickly build Chelsea. Like it or not, he had to build Chelsea from scratch, because the squad he had was inherited from their previous coach, Thomas Tuchel.
I hope that if Graham Potter is given longer chances in charge of Chelsea he won't let down those who put the faith in him. Because there are still many coaches who in my opinion are better than him now who are more trustworthy.

The heads of Chelsea are currently backing Potter
They feel he has enough time to turn Those game's around
But Chelsea seem like a club that will loss to Dortmund

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December 05, 2022, 05:57:39 PM
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I hope that if Graham Potter is given longer chances in charge of Chelsea he won't let down those who put the faith in him. Because there are still many coaches who in my opinion are better than him now who are more trustworthy.
If Chelsea can give Graham sometime I think their will be good result.  Chelsea has never believed to give a coach chance to see if their will be a good result. Chelsea is too quick to sack their coaches when their performance is poor.
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December 05, 2022, 06:11:22 PM
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The question is, how much time did Graham Potter need to get Chelsea to the title? This is a problem of course, because if it takes too long Chelsea management and fans will get fed up with having to wait long, especially if Graham Potter can't quickly build Chelsea. Like it or not, he had to build Chelsea from scratch, because the squad he had was inherited from their previous coach, Thomas Tuchel.
I hope that if Graham Potter is given longer chances in charge of Chelsea he won't let down those who put the faith in him. Because there are still many coaches who in my opinion are better than him now who are more trustworthy.
Graham Potter become Chelsea manager when Primer League running few weeks not problem yet because Chelsea have completed squad with star player, but first time become Chelsea manager on September 9, Graham Potter still make Chelsea in underperformance condition right now. Comparison with experienced have by Graham Potter I think there are still have many favorite manager who have more experienced than him.

Still not closed yet with Graham Potter chance bring back Chelsea success at Champion League this season, actually 16 round drawing most lucky with Dortmund opponent seems not really difficult and I think Chelsea have large opportunity lead to next round.

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December 05, 2022, 06:20:14 PM
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Graham Potter become Chelsea manager when Primer League running few weeks not problem yet because Chelsea have completed squad with star player, but first time become Chelsea manager on September 9, Graham Potter still make Chelsea in underperformance condition right now. Comparison with experienced have by Graham Potter I think there are still have many favorite manager who have more experienced than him.

Still not closed yet with Graham Potter chance bring back Chelsea success at Champion League this season, actually 16 round drawing most lucky with Dortmund opponent seems not really difficult and I think Chelsea have large opportunity lead to next round.


Sorry at this time if Chelsea's performance looks unstable, it is clear that Dortmund has plus points because they have played consistently. And if Chelsea still can't determine which direction in terms of management, whether players or coaches are not fully supported, then Dortmund will easily make Chelsea falter later after this break is over.

Therefore, Chelsea still has time to fix all the internal and external gaps that occur. Chelsea is currently in a fairly indecisive condition.

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December 05, 2022, 07:05:37 PM
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Sorry at this time if Chelsea's performance looks unstable, it is clear that Dortmund has plus points because they have played consistently. And if Chelsea still can't determine which direction in terms of management, whether players or coaches are not fully supported, then Dortmund will easily make Chelsea falter later after this break is over.

Therefore, Chelsea still has time to fix all the internal and external gaps that occur. Chelsea is currently in a fairly indecisive condition.

Graham Potter did great at the start of his managerian role in Chelsea but things have gone sour since then. Both the fans and The Chelsea hierarchy are losing patience. The Chelsea team has an advantage to return early to league match than Dortmund. Although it's  disadvantage because of lack of rest which might cause fatigue at the long run.

Dortmund also aren't doing quite well. They are losing some kinda of matches they aren't supposed to lose. They are currently languishing at 6 position on the bundesliga table. With teams like union Berlin, Freiburg ahead of them.

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Sacking Thomas Tuchel by the club and employing Graham Potter was for a reason and I believe if the reason for employing a new coach which I believe is to restore balance in the squad and drive the team to maintaining consistency and winning games so I wouldn't blame the fans if they begin to panic and ask questions or doubt Potter's capabilities because he was employed to improve the team and win games so if he is not doing so then it surely will raise doubts.
To restore balance in the squad and drive the team to maintaining consistency of winning games?, and Where are those facts since he was sacked ?, Whatever story that may have caused the sacking, I think that was a wrong decision by the owner and the entire Chelsea management board.

They Forgot that in live there ups and down times and same is applicable to coaching, I never sided the sack of Thomas Tuchel one day, that issues should have been resolved with the team or the management of Chelsea and with time everything would move back smoothly for the club entirely.

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December 05, 2022, 10:08:11 PM
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Sacking Thomas Tuchel by the club and employing Graham Potter was for a reason and I believe if the reason for employing a new coach which I believe is to restore balance in the squad and drive the team to maintaining consistency and winning games so I wouldn't blame the fans if they begin to panic and ask questions or doubt Potter's capabilities because he was employed to improve the team and win games so if he is not doing so then it surely will raise doubts.
To restore balance in the squad and drive the team to maintaining consistency of winning games?, and Where are those facts since he was sacked ?, Whatever story that may have caused the sacking, I think that was a wrong decision by the owner and the entire Chelsea management board.

They Forgot that in live there ups and down times and same is applicable to coaching, I never sided the sack of Thomas Tuchel one day, that issues should have been resolved with the team or the management of Chelsea and with time everything would move back smoothly for the club entirely.
Chelsea have now become worst than be, I'm sure  the management of Chelsea  never expected the team to be this way. Tuchel is a better coach , well experienced than Graham.  I'm still wondering where can Graham drive Chelsea to, I can see it is a bit difficult for him.

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I hope that if Graham Potter is given longer chances in charge of Chelsea he won't let down those who put the faith in him. Because there are still many coaches who in my opinion are better than him now who are more trustworthy.
If Chelsea can give Graham sometime I think their will be good result.  Chelsea has never believed to give a coach chance to see if their will be a good result. Chelsea is too quick to sack their coaches when their performance is poor.
I know that it did not take Graham Potter unaware for him to sign for Chelsea. everyone in the land of football including Chelsea themselves knows  how unfaithful Chelsea Football Club used to be with their coaches.
Everyone knows how they criticize their coach even if he wins five matches, draws two and lose one.
Since he knows all this and still decides to sign for Chelsea he has a plan as he has decided to take the risk to push his career in Chelsea.

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December 05, 2022, 10:38:50 PM
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I hope that if Graham Potter is given longer chances in charge of Chelsea he won't let down those who put the faith in him. Because there are still many coaches who in my opinion are better than him now who are more trustworthy.
If Chelsea can give Graham sometime I think their will be good result.  Chelsea has never believed to give a coach chance to see if their will be a good result. Chelsea is too quick to sack their coaches when their performance is poor.
All of decision will be on todd's hand. Todd is the main reason why tuchel got sacked easily. I think that chelsea management will not be sacking the coach like that and give him another chance but that's different with todd caused by todd was thinking if he was playing a foot ball manager game. That being said that if the result from chelsea was so bad caused by it needs the transition. There are rumours about potter will be sacked again but i hope if that will not true at all.
Chelsea needs to slowly rebuild its team again. it needs more time to make it happen. Todd must not become an impatience owner.

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December 05, 2022, 10:42:18 PM
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Chelsea have now become worst than be, I'm sure  the management of Chelsea  never expected the team to be this way. Tuchel is a better coach , well experienced than Graham.  I'm still wondering where can Graham drive Chelsea to, I can see it is a bit difficult for him.
Mereka butuh perombakan besar baik di timnya dan juga manajemen. Potter is actually a professional football coach, but here, this seems like he cannot do his best because of many problems inside. Chelsea had a serious problem previously. And now, they are struggling to reach better competitors, but can not. Even Potter was an excellent coach in Brighton, but they cannot make Chelsea much better. Actually, Chelsea exactly needs some replacements for their squads, moreover their defenders, this is the worst. But their midfielders and also attacking lines are also not as strong as others, they are ordinary. So, I think that Chelsea really needs stronger squads again to manage their team much better again.  

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