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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
Total Voters: 147

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January 20, 2023, 11:51:17 PM
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The way I see how the match is going to play at, I think Chelsea will likely win at Dortmund home while Dortmund will try to get a draw at least but that won't be possible. Chelsea has the highest chance of winning at the Stanford bridge because they are going to be playing in front of their fans and they won't want to disappoint them. People thinking Chelsea is going to be terrible has to realized that this isn't the premier League, this is the Champions League so things might likely play at differently.

The bookmarkers don't always get their prediction right and don't forget that something they might be doing this kind of rating on purpose to attract betters. They on purpose give out bad rating to the favorite team, for instance, the game between Liverpool and Real Madrid is having Liverpool as the favorite when we all know, Real Madrid are by far superior.
I have to agree with the assumption that the Champions League has different interests than every team there is. Chelsea are indeed in a disadvantageous condition in the Premier League, but it looks like they are not allowing conditions to be as bad in the Champions League against Dortmund.

The chance will be equal for both teams, but Chelsea are the favorites over Dortmund in the Champions League. If Haaland was still in Dortmund, then I think Dortmund would be the favourites. I like Chelsea to reach the quarter-finals, but Dortmund for whatever reason will definitely try to give their best to win it. I just don't want to say Chelsea are better, but they are an experienced team in the Champions League

chelsea made many good signings this january, but many players are still adapting to the team, but the champions league games are even further away from happening, which will allow chelsea players to get used to the team and manage to bring a good result mainly because will be playing against an opponent that is not as strong as in past seasons

we all know that Dortmund prioritize selling players over winning titles, although they have come far in the champions league they are undoubtedly more interested in selling their best players so chelsea will be playing Dortmund without their good players, I don't even know to what extent dortmund already sold players this january but i'm guessing they sold their best players

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January 21, 2023, 02:23:04 AM
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we all know that Dortmund prioritize selling players over winning titles, although they have come far in the champions league they are undoubtedly more interested in selling their best players so chelsea will be playing Dortmund without their good players, I don't even know to what extent dortmund already sold players this january but i'm guessing they sold their best players

Despite Dortmund selling their best players, their performances are still quite good. However, they are not consistently performing well. But Dortmund's players have the ability to beat a big team like Chelsea. Moreover, Chelsea is perhaps a renowned team. But this season their performance is not stable. The Chelsea team is now in the 10th place in the Premier League points table. And so it would be foolish to think that Chelsea can easily win against Dortmund. It will be challenging for Chelsea to win this match as well.

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January 21, 2023, 03:02:29 AM
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Saying Madrid is not in the favorites I agree but when saying Madrid is weak I don't really agree with that.
As for the actual Favorites in recent seasons it has remained the same and Manchester City has obviously always been at the forefront but the problem is as you said not all predictions are right especially for the Champions League. It's not impossible that this season there will be some surprises even though for those who are in the final it's clear that only the top teams will be there.
It's okay to say Real Madrid are not the favorites in the Champions League and maybe that's just for some people, because last season there were those who said so too. But there are a lot of people who already know who won the Champions League last season and I don't think you forget that either. And it doesn't rule out that this season could be repeated again for Real Madrid, even though at this time the Real Madrid team looks a little lethargic and not convincing to win in the Champions League.
People didn't realize the fact if real madrid was a club that was always winning UCL so many times. I kinda feel weird to see that if people keep saying madrid was bad. Where are they when madrid become champions so many times. These people can't accept the truth and they keep being delusional by thinking madrid was a weak team. I guess that if those people were using their internet for something else rather than try to get reliable news related to the madrid and ucl. Madrid has known as king of ucl. it's caused by so many achievements achieved by madrid.
Maadrid is still remain a king in UCL with 14 trophies. Manchester city and PSG have none.

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January 21, 2023, 03:37:42 AM
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It's okay to say Real Madrid are not the favorites in the Champions League and maybe that's just for some people, because last season there were those who said so too. But there are a lot of people who already know who won the Champions League last season and I don't think you forget that either. And it doesn't rule out that this season could be repeated again for Real Madrid, even though at this time the Real Madrid team looks a little lethargic and not convincing to win in the Champions League.
People didn't realize the fact if real madrid was a club that was always winning UCL so many times. I kinda feel weird to see that if people keep saying madrid was bad. Where are they when madrid become champions so many times. These people can't accept the truth and they keep being delusional by thinking madrid was a weak team. I guess that if those people were using their internet for something else rather than try to get reliable news related to the madrid and ucl. Madrid has known as king of ucl. it's caused by so many achievements achieved by madrid.
Maadrid is still remain a king in UCL with 14 trophies. Manchester city and PSG have none.
We must never forget that when it comes to sports some fans love hating on the clubs which have been the most dominant, and when it comes to the champions league there is little doubt Real Madrid is the best with twice as many titles as the second place and winning their 14th title just last year, so if someone says that they believe there are other teams which are better than Real Madrid at the moment then this could be true, but someone which says Real Madrid is a bad team is simply exaggerating.
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January 21, 2023, 06:03:02 AM
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If compared to Dortmund, the Chelsea team can be said to be strong. Chelsea will be favorite in this match. However, the performance of both the teams here is now weak. Their performance has decreased. The performance of Chelsea's attacking players is not good enough. And so it is very difficult for Chelsea to win against Dortmund. Since the first match is Chelsea's home match, Chelsea players will be a bit more confident. And confidence is very important to win these matches.
Among both the team - that is for sure Chelsea did perform the well.
But that is correct both team needs to give time to their performance. Confidence is important but so is consistency and struggle and hard work - this surly brings the team to the higher pedestal

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January 21, 2023, 06:21:47 AM
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Despite Dortmund selling their best players, their performances are still quite good. However, they are not consistently performing well. But Dortmund's players have the ability to beat a big team like Chelsea. Moreover, Chelsea is perhaps a renowned team. But this season their performance is not stable. The Chelsea team is now in the 10th place in the Premier League points table. And so it would be foolish to think that Chelsea can easily win against Dortmund. It will be challenging for Chelsea to win this match as well.

a fairly similar situation also seems to be experienced by Dortmund. he has also been unstable this season. so their meeting against Chelsea I think is quite fair with the condition of the two of them which is not like last season.
anything can happen in European competitions. those who don't perform well in the league can be very attractive when playing for the Champions League. I can't predict this fight, but both of them will perform optimally for a very decisive match.



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January 21, 2023, 06:47:51 AM
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The way I see how the match is going to play at, I think Chelsea will likely win at Dortmund home while Dortmund will try to get a draw at least but that won't be possible. Chelsea has the highest chance of winning at the Stanford bridge because they are going to be playing in front of their fans and they won't want to disappoint them. People thinking Chelsea is going to be terrible has to realized that this isn't the premier League, this is the Champions League so things might likely play at differently.

The bookmarkers don't always get their prediction right and don't forget that something they might be doing this kind of rating on purpose to attract betters. They on purpose give out bad rating to the favorite team, for instance, the game between Liverpool and Real Madrid is having Liverpool as the favorite when we all know, Real Madrid are by far superior.
When you compare both teams Chelsea have a better squad than Dortmund. With the recent additions to the Chelsea squad I think they will be even stronger and better by the time this match will take place I think Chelsea have a better chance of winning and progressing past this stage of the Champions league knockout stages. Hopefully Chelsea will play better in the Champions league than they are currently performing in the EPL.

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January 21, 2023, 07:41:23 AM
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Milan are seen as the closest team to the win in their Tottenham match in San Siro. There is a quite big gap between their odds as well.

Normally I would have expected Tottenham to be better than this in the Champions League. Because after seeing their start to this season I had bigger expectations. Conte's system was working like a clockwork. However things started to change not much time later. It reflected on their performance in this tournament as well. They had quite big difficulties in some matches in the group stage. Milan seemed weak against Chelsea but they are given more chance against Tottenham now. There are still a few weeks until the match though. We will see if Tottenham will make improvement. Milan also should do this in their defense.
I guess, Tottenham will surely make improvement in their next game since their coach is still doing some things that will make them improve like the way they are improving in the premier league competition. Tottenham have a good defenders but their midfielders always let their strength to reduce in the second half some time, which are part of things their coach need to impact his players before their next game. Milan defense was so strong from the beginning of this tournament but their defense started reducing few months ago which their coach can still do something about it before the end of the season.

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January 21, 2023, 08:04:29 AM
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If Haaland was still in Dortmund, then I think Dortmund would be the favourites. I like Chelsea to reach the quarter-finals, but Dortmund for whatever reason will definitely try to give their best to win it. I just don't want to say Chelsea are better, but they are an experienced team in the Champions League.

Please even with Haaland at the club they still won't have been the favorite. Haaland with all the talents at Manchester city that he has at his service can't still perform against Chelsea. I'm not talking about the team entirely but just the individual performance by Haaland. For Manchester city to even destroy us they had to bench Haaland. A typical number 9 is easier to defend against then a false 9. Last year tournament Chelsea were right there up to the round of 16 but we're eliminated by the team that went on to win the tournament which we still defeated at the second leg.

Chelsea are definitely a force at the champions League level, we have been making name for ourselves recently and that have earn up two trophies. It mightn't be much in numbers but when it comes to the champion league, that's definitely a big flex. What has Dortmund gotten, they're a small club and one who Chelsea doesn't have to stress themselves against to win them.

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So far this season, Chelsea's performance has proven that Things isn't working for Chelsea for a very long time now, that they went into overestimated transfer deals and bought players in prizes they ought not to have, and I see this to be a preparatory measure against the upcoming matches awaiting them. But looking at Borussia Dortmund, I don't see any preparatory measures they have taken, upon their poor performance in the domestic leagues so I don't think it's wrong for one to consider Dortmund the worst.
Thinking that according to the facts that have been seen is not wrong at all, but I just haven't seen how Dortmund played after the world cup break so some people can only conclude based on Dortmund's game before the world cup break. So I'll wait and see how Dortmund perform tomorrow at home against Augsburg in the Bundesliga. After that I will try to make a comparison with Chelsea who will compete today at home to Liverpool.

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January 21, 2023, 11:37:04 AM
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When you compare both teams Chelsea have a better squad than Dortmund. With the recent additions to the Chelsea squad I think they will be even stronger and better by the time this match will take place I think Chelsea have a better chance of winning and progressing past this stage of the Champions league knockout stages. Hopefully Chelsea will play better in the Champions league than they are currently performing in the EPL.

If we compare it from the depths the players of these two teams. yes, Chelsea is better than Dortmund. however, we don't know whether Chelsea will be able to defeat Dortmund in the round of 16 match later. The reason is, even though Chelsea have recruited several newcomers, it is not certain that these newcomers will be able to immediately adapt well to their new team. also, several of Chelsea's core players have not yet been confirmed to have recovered from their injuries. even so, if Chelsea's players return to full fitness from injury, plus the new arrivals, Chelsea has the complete depth of players to become a competitor in this competition. even so, we'll see if Potter is able to bring Chelsea much better, or.

As for Dortmund, if we refer to some of the trial matches that Dotmund played. even though the opponents are not equal teams, at least Edin Terzic's troops are quite ready to carry out their second round of matches this season in the Bundesliga. plus, the return of Sabastien Haller might be a differentiator for the Dortmund squad to carry out their matches and also be ready to face Chelsea in the round of 16 later. but for sure, we will find out later after this match is held.

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January 21, 2023, 11:55:44 AM
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The way I see how the match is going to play at, I think Chelsea will likely win at Dortmund home while Dortmund will try to get a draw at least but that won't be possible. Chelsea has the highest chance of winning at the Stanford bridge because they are going to be playing in front of their fans and they won't want to disappoint them. People thinking Chelsea is going to be terrible has to realized that this isn't the premier League, this is the Champions League so things might likely play at differently.

The bookmarkers don't always get their prediction right and don't forget that something they might be doing this kind of rating on purpose to attract betters. They on purpose give out bad rating to the favorite team, for instance, the game between Liverpool and Real Madrid is having Liverpool as the favorite when we all know, Real Madrid are by far superior.
I have to agree with the assumption that the Champions League has different interests than every team there is. Chelsea are indeed in a disadvantageous condition in the Premier League, but it looks like they are not allowing conditions to be as bad in the Champions League against Dortmund.

The chance will be equal for both teams, but Chelsea are the favorites over Dortmund in the Champions League. If Haaland was still in Dortmund, then I think Dortmund would be the favourites. I like Chelsea to reach the quarter-finals, but Dortmund for whatever reason will definitely try to give their best to win it. I just don't want to say Chelsea are better, but they are an experienced team in the Champions League.
The match between Chelsea and Dortmund looks more likely, as Chelsea's current performance is not very good. In other words, Dortmund is ahead of Chelsea in terms of performance. Hope this match will be very competitive.

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January 21, 2023, 12:01:47 PM
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So far this season, Chelsea's performance has proven that Things isn't working for Chelsea for a very long time now, that they went into overestimated transfer deals and bought players in prizes they ought not to have, and I see this to be a preparatory measure against the upcoming matches awaiting them. But looking at Borussia Dortmund, I don't see any preparatory measures they have taken, upon their poor performance in the domestic leagues so I don't think it's wrong for one to consider Dortmund the worst.
Thinking that according to the facts that have been seen is not wrong at all, but I just haven't seen how Dortmund played after the world cup break so some people can only conclude based on Dortmund's game before the world cup break. So I'll wait and see how Dortmund perform tomorrow at home against Augsburg in the Bundesliga. After that I will try to make a comparison with Chelsea who will compete today at home to Liverpool.
Dortmund are currently not performing so well. When Haaland was in the team, the team progressed at a great pace. Holland's lack of place in the team at present is acutely understood.

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January 21, 2023, 12:05:51 PM
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The bookmarkers don't always get their prediction right and don't forget that something they might be doing this kind of rating on purpose to attract betters. They on purpose give out bad rating to the favorite team, for instance, the game between Liverpool and Real Madrid is having Liverpool as the favorite when we all know, Real Madrid are by far superior.
Agree with you about not all sports bookmarkers not always right in their predicting about which team will qualify to next round or favorite become the winner in UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season. I remember last season with Real Madrid is weakness team and not favorite by all sportsbook after bigger odds given when Real Madrid match against from PSG, Chelsea, Manchester City until final faced with Liverpool.

I don't care about sportsbook if not favorite Real Madrid to win against Liverpool on 16 round but I am optimistic with Madrid will get chance qualify to next round.
Saying Madrid is not in the favorites I agree but when saying Madrid is weak I don't really agree with that.
As for the actual Favorites in recent seasons it has remained the same and Manchester City has obviously always been at the forefront but the problem is as you said not all predictions are right especially for the Champions League. It's not impossible that this season there will be some surprises even though for those who are in the final it's clear that only the top teams will be there.
Real Madrid is a very strong team. Every player in their team is performing very well. But I don't see any chance for them in the Champions League. In some matches, they are ensuring defeat due to their own mistakes.

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January 21, 2023, 12:28:40 PM
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we all know that Dortmund prioritize selling players over winning titles, although they have come far in the champions league they are undoubtedly more interested in selling their best players so chelsea will be playing Dortmund without their good players, I don't even know to what extent dortmund already sold players this january but i'm guessing they sold their best players

Despite Dortmund selling their best players, their performances are still quite good. However, they are not consistently performing well. But Dortmund's players have the ability to beat a big team like Chelsea. Moreover, Chelsea is perhaps a renowned team. But this season their performance is not stable. The Chelsea team is now in the 10th place in the Premier League points table. And so it would be foolish to think that Chelsea can easily win against Dortmund. It will be challenging for Chelsea to win this match as well.
Very interesting to see Chelsea performance because they were very active in this transfer window and apparently Potter want to rebuild Chelsea and if we see Chelsea current squad they have very complete players on every positions but lets see whether those new players will adapt quickly with Potter strategy or not but their new player Joao Felix has worst debut that on premier league he got red card which caused he will be punished suspension however seems Chelsea has promising squad and lets see in the next few matches whether they can improved their performance using new players or not but if Chelsea perrormance getting better i think beat Dortmund isn't hard for them

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January 21, 2023, 01:09:10 PM
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The bookmarkers don't always get their prediction right and don't forget that something they might be doing this kind of rating on purpose to attract betters. They on purpose give out bad rating to the favorite team, for instance, the game between Liverpool and Real Madrid is having Liverpool as the favorite when we all know, Real Madrid are by far superior.
Agree with you about not all sports bookmarkers not always right in their predicting about which team will qualify to next round or favorite become the winner in UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season. I remember last season with Real Madrid is weakness team and not favorite by all sportsbook after bigger odds given when Real Madrid match against from PSG, Chelsea, Manchester City until final faced with Liverpool.

I don't care about sportsbook if not favorite Real Madrid to win against Liverpool on 16 round but I am optimistic with Madrid will get chance qualify to next round.
Saying Madrid is not in the favorites I agree but when saying Madrid is weak I don't really agree with that.
As for the actual Favorites in recent seasons it has remained the same and Manchester City has obviously always been at the forefront but the problem is as you said not all predictions are right especially for the Champions League. It's not impossible that this season there will be some surprises even though for those who are in the final it's clear that only the top teams will be there.
Real Madrid is a very strong team. Every player in their team is performing very well. But I don't see any chance for them in the Champions League. In some matches, they are ensuring defeat due to their own mistakes.

That means they are not strong enough yet
This season's Champions League has very tight competition, several teams such as Paris Saint-Germain, Manchester City and Napoli have improved their performance this season, this competitive situation will make it difficult for Real Madrid to survive in the Champions League with what they currently have.
Carlo Ancelotti needs to make improvements to Real Madrid's core squad

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January 21, 2023, 01:19:26 PM
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The bookmarkers don't always get their prediction right and don't forget that something they might be doing this kind of rating on purpose to attract betters. They on purpose give out bad rating to the favorite team, for instance, the game between Liverpool and Real Madrid is having Liverpool as the favorite when we all know, Real Madrid are by far superior.
Agree with you about not all sports bookmarkers not always right in their predicting about which team will qualify to next round or favorite become the winner in UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season. I remember last season with Real Madrid is weakness team and not favorite by all sportsbook after bigger odds given when Real Madrid match against from PSG, Chelsea, Manchester City until final faced with Liverpool.

I don't care about sportsbook if not favorite Real Madrid to win against Liverpool on 16 round but I am optimistic with Madrid will get chance qualify to next round.
Saying Madrid is not in the favorites I agree but when saying Madrid is weak I don't really agree with that.
As for the actual Favorites in recent seasons it has remained the same and Manchester City has obviously always been at the forefront but the problem is as you said not all predictions are right especially for the Champions League. It's not impossible that this season there will be some surprises even though for those who are in the final it's clear that only the top teams will be there.
Real Madrid is a very strong team. Every player in their team is performing very well. But I don't see any chance for them in the Champions League. In some matches, they are ensuring defeat due to their own mistakes.

That means they are not strong enough yet
This season's Champions League has very tight competition, several teams such as Paris Saint-Germain, Manchester City and Napoli have improved their performance this season, this competitive situation will make it difficult for Real Madrid to survive in the Champions League with what they currently have.
Carlo Ancelotti needs to make improvements to Real Madrid's core squad
Manchester City are more likely in the Champions League. Paris Saint-Germain have some glaring flaws in their squad, one of which is their defensive woes. Despite PSG's experienced defence, they are unable to stop the opposition's attack.

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January 21, 2023, 02:33:22 PM
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The bookmarkers don't always get their prediction right and don't forget that something they might be doing this kind of rating on purpose to attract betters. They on purpose give out bad rating to the favorite team, for instance, the game between Liverpool and Real Madrid is having Liverpool as the favorite when we all know, Real Madrid are by far superior.
Agree with you about not all sports bookmarkers not always right in their predicting about which team will qualify to next round or favorite become the winner in UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season. I remember last season with Real Madrid is weakness team and not favorite by all sportsbook after bigger odds given when Real Madrid match against from PSG, Chelsea, Manchester City until final faced with Liverpool.
I don't care about sportsbook if not favorite Real Madrid to win against Liverpool on 16 round but I am optimistic with Madrid will get chance qualify to next round.
Saying Madrid is not in the favorites I agree but when saying Madrid is weak I don't really agree with that.
As for the actual Favorites in recent seasons it has remained the same and Manchester City has obviously always been at the forefront but the problem is as you said not all predictions are right especially for the Champions League. It's not impossible that this season there will be some surprises even though for those who are in the final it's clear that only the top teams will be there.
Real Madrid is a very strong team. Every player in their team is performing very well. But I don't see any chance for them in the Champions League. In some matches, they are ensuring defeat due to their own mistakes.
That means they are not strong enough yet
This season's Champions League has very tight competition, several teams such as Paris Saint-Germain, Manchester City and Napoli have improved their performance this season, this competitive situation will make it difficult for Real Madrid to survive in the Champions League with what they currently have.
Carlo Ancelotti needs to make improvements to Real Madrid's core squad
Manchester City are more likely in the Champions League. Paris Saint-Germain have some glaring flaws in their squad, one of which is their defensive woes. Despite PSG's experienced defence, they are unable to stop the opposition's attack.

It is impossible to predict which team will win the Champions League title. Manchester City has been favorites for the Champions League title for the last few years, but they have not been champions. Manchester City is favorite this season too. They have a strong squad. Even then I can't say for sure that they will win the title. PSG or Real Madrid are equally likely to win the title. But at the moment, Manchester City's performance is slightly more stable than PSG or Real Madrid.

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January 21, 2023, 02:50:17 PM
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Real Madrid is a very strong team. Every player in their team is performing very well. But I don't see any chance for them in the Champions League. In some matches, they are ensuring defeat due to their own mistakes.

I also think that Real Madrid is definitely not among the big favorites to win the Champions league this season. Other teams like Manchester City, Paris saint germain or Bayern Munich just seem to be way stronger. I also think that this not really mean that much though. Just remember what happened in the last season. Back then Real was in a wad worse shape than they are in this year and still they have managed to win the CL back then. There was a lot of luck involved, but still.
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January 21, 2023, 02:53:46 PM
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we all know that Dortmund prioritize selling players over winning titles, although they have come far in the champions league they are undoubtedly more interested in selling their best players so chelsea will be playing Dortmund without their good players, I don't even know to what extent dortmund already sold players this january but i'm guessing they sold their best players

Despite Dortmund selling their best players, their performances are still quite good. However, they are not consistently performing well. But Dortmund's players have the ability to beat a big team like Chelsea. Moreover, Chelsea is perhaps a renowned team. But this season their performance is not stable. The Chelsea team is now in the 10th place in the Premier League points table. And so it would be foolish to think that Chelsea can easily win against Dortmund. It will be challenging for Chelsea to win this match as well.
Very interesting to see Chelsea performance because they were very active in this transfer window and apparently Potter want to rebuild Chelsea and if we see Chelsea current squad they have very complete players on every positions but lets see whether those new players will adapt quickly with Potter strategy or not but their new player Joao Felix has worst debut that on premier league he got red card which caused he will be punished suspension however seems Chelsea has promising squad and lets see in the next few matches whether they can improved their performance using new players or not but if Chelsea perrormance getting better i think beat Dortmund isn't hard for them

Dortmund is not doing well in the Bundesliga, Chelsea are playing unsuccessful matches in the Premier league.  I'm quite curious about the pairing between the two.  If there is one thing I know, it is that I am eagerly waiting for this match to be played.  Chelsea's players are better and they're a few qualities better than Dortmund.  Dortmund will try hard and they definitely have a chance.  Still, as I said, I see Chelsea as the team that is close to passing the round.

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