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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
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Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
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February 11, 2023, 07:31:25 PM
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Speaking of chelsea, I still can't tag Borussia Dortmund well enough to be a hindrance to Chelsea in the champion league round of 16. Chelsea is not doing well in the domestic league but will perform extremely well in the champion league.
I'm glad that even with their condition they still made it to that phase of the champion league and I know they will go further than that.

I would like to know how you get such confidence? Borussia, even in its poor state, is the kind of team that can sometimes beat Bayern in a personal meeting, and now Dortmund is clearly on the rise. Chelsea seem to have forgotten what it's like to win (one win in the last 8 games lol). At the same time, I will note that initially, after the draw, I considered Chelsea a favorite in this pair, now I have changed my mind.

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February 11, 2023, 09:15:42 PM
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Speaking of chelsea, I still can't tag Borussia Dortmund well enough to be a hindrance to Chelsea in the champion league round of 16. Chelsea is not doing well in the domestic league but will perform extremely well in the champion league.
I'm glad that even with their condition they still made it to that phase of the champion league and I know they will go further than that.

I would like to know how you get such confidence? Borussia, even in its poor state, is the kind of team that can sometimes beat Bayern in a personal meeting, and now Dortmund is clearly on the rise. Chelsea seem to have forgotten what it's like to win (one win in the last 8 games lol). At the same time, I will note that initially, after the draw, I considered Chelsea a favorite in this pair, now I have changed my mind.

Dortmund winning Bayern even at their poor state can’t be compared to the champions league football. The morale and team spirit is different here. Chelsea from past seasons have shown much high level of expertise in the field of play in the champions league, much better than what Dortmund has showed. Even with Chelsea current form, I don’t think Dortmund are worthy opponent that will hinder them from qualifying to the next round of the competition.

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February 11, 2023, 09:45:22 PM
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It will only be difficult if the two teams were performing well in their domestic league, but as it stands now Tottenham is a better side than Milan. Milan in their last 4 matches performed poorly and they are currently not in a better position in their league standing compared to Tottenham. It is not bad to say that Tottenham is fitter and is currently a better side than Milan in this champion league round 16 Clashes
If you look at the position in their respective domestic league standings, Tottenham themselves are also not in a better position than Milan at the moment. Even though Milan's current position is still not safe if the two rivals below can win this weekend's match. But for the Champions League, it's a little difficult for me to make comparisons on these two teams because they have a very different way of playing and the performances they have shown this season.
Right now, we have just 70 hours left in this match and in their last matches before this big clash we have interesting results like AC Milan won their home game against Torino at home by score of 1 - 0 and Tottenham lost their away game with the unwanted result which is 4 - 1 mean both are having not enough quality but still match is going ahead and prediction is not easy because both are at same level, and we can expect any result with most chances which team will take good advantage can go with confidence in second leg match which will be played at Tottenham London, but both are surely missing performance for last few matches and things are going not easy for this match as well.
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February 11, 2023, 09:51:52 PM
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Messi will absence against monaco caused by messi will take a rest as preparation against bayern. As far as i know that if messi didn't get serious injury. Messi's facing muscle fatigue. messi needs to take a rest to bring back his muscle again.

The match against monaco is not so important for PSG. that's why messi wonn't play in that match.
Indeed, Messi focuses more on the big match in UCL. The match between PSG and Bayern is not a small match and this will really determine their existence. Taking rests to prepare for that big match is the best and wisest way. It is still several days remaining before the match and hopefully his condition is really fit and doesn't disturb his skill.

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Without Messi and Mbappe, I think PSG's strength is greatly reduced in attack, and for sure Neymar will not be able to overcome Bayern Munich's defense alone in the match.
Indeed, no doubt that without the two, PSG performance will reduce so much. Messi and Mbappe are like the soul of PSG, although they are also supported by all players in the team, they really become decisive. The match will be much more interesting in the first meeting of UCL after several months.

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February 11, 2023, 10:03:35 PM
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Speaking of chelsea, I still can't tag Borussia Dortmund well enough to be a hindrance to Chelsea in the champion league round of 16. Chelsea is not doing well in the domestic league but will perform extremely well in the champion league.
I'm glad that even with their condition they still made it to that phase of the champion league and I know they will go further than that.

Are you saying this based on how you feel on based on facts? If Chelsea take their domestic form to Europe, they'll lose woefully because they are extremely poor domestically. Dotmund is a team that know how to attack and score goals and Chelsea find it hard to score many goals these days.
I believe Chelsea will some how progress to the next stage of the competition but it's not a certainty. They have to play their lives out if the want to win Dotmund who are also an inconsistent team.

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February 11, 2023, 11:58:15 PM
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Messi's absence is bad news for PSG fans, because Messi is an important player on the front lines of PSG and without him it seems that PSG will have a little trouble in the match later.
I think that from the news, Messi will probably not be absence, he can still probably play in PSG when against Bayern in the UCL which will be held several days later. He got injured but it seems that it is not a big injury and hopefully he can really be okay and fit very soon.
https://www.thescore.com/s/24489605
But indeed, actually, PSG still has Mbappe that is really great as a player for the attacking line. But if PSG misses Messi in this match, it will seem quite different without Messi moreover because he is still the star at this time.
Yeah, galtier has been confirming it. https://www.eurosport.co.uk/football/lionel-messi-will-be-fit-to-face-bayern-munich-in-champions-league-tie-says-psg-boss-christophe-galtier_vid1834995/video.shtml

Messi will absence against monaco caused by messi will take a rest as preparation against bayern. As far as i know that if messi didn't get serious injury. Messi's facing muscle fatigue. messi needs to take a rest to bring back his muscle again.

The match against monaco is not so important for PSG. that's why messi wonn't play in that match.
their performance was really bad though, even if Messi did not play, he won't change that much in a match, and keep in mind that it's just Monaco, Bayern are in a different realm, i would be really surprised if PSG can survive against Bayern's attack, a draw won't be enough in the 1st leg, PSG need to win, and to be honest, i don't see that happening.

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February 12, 2023, 04:01:54 AM
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their performance was really bad though, even if Messi did not play, he won't change that much in a match, and keep in mind that it's just Monaco, Bayern are in a different realm, i would be really surprised if PSG can survive against Bayern's attack, a draw won't be enough in the 1st leg, PSG need to win, and to be honest, i don't see that happening.
Messi is a play maker, that's why Neymar and Mbappe can score many goals. It's really wrong if you think Messi will not give a huge impact to PSG, Messi almost always score a goal or give an assist in every match.

The first leg will happen on PSG's home, if PSG can't win or make it draw, I'm sure 100% Bayern Munich will win in the second leg.

Just check the odds, PSG is currently become an underdog and the odds is close to @3.00 in money line betting option. I think I would bet PSG since the odds is worth it, PSG will play with their best line up.

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February 12, 2023, 04:22:58 AM
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Messi will absence against monaco caused by messi will take a rest as preparation against bayern. As far as i know that if messi didn't get serious injury. Messi's facing muscle fatigue. messi needs to take a rest to bring back his muscle again.

The match against monaco is not so important for PSG. that's why messi wonn't play in that match.
Indeed, Messi focuses more on the big match in UCL. The match between PSG and Bayern is not a small match and this will really determine their existence. Taking rests to prepare for that big match is the best and wisest way. It is still several days remaining before the match and hopefully his condition is really fit and doesn't disturb his skill.
PSG has been getting very bad result against monaco. Im not sure if even with messi PSG will able to beat bayern. Messi didn't have good record against bayern. PSG will be playing without mbappe. that being said that if messi will not become a threat for bayern.
Bayern has a strategy to counter messi's movement. PSG is now in a very big disadvantage caused by it must be played without mbappe. Bayern will try to take it as opportunity caused by the performance from replacement for mbappe was not as good as mbappe.
I hope that bayern will be defeating PSG with very big scores like 5-0

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February 12, 2023, 05:00:58 AM
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Messi's absence is bad news for PSG fans, because Messi is an important player on the front lines of PSG and without him it seems that PSG will have a little trouble in the match later.
I think that from the news, Messi will probably not be absence, he can still probably play in PSG when against Bayern in the UCL which will be held several days later. He got injured but it seems that it is not a big injury and hopefully he can really be okay and fit very soon.
https://www.thescore.com/s/24489605
But indeed, actually, PSG still has Mbappe that is really great as a player for the attacking line. But if PSG misses Messi in this match, it will seem quite different without Messi moreover because he is still the star at this time.
Yeah, galtier has been confirming it. https://www.eurosport.co.uk/football/lionel-messi-will-be-fit-to-face-bayern-munich-in-champions-league-tie-says-psg-boss-christophe-galtier_vid1834995/video.shtml

Messi will absence against monaco caused by messi will take a rest as preparation against bayern. As far as i know that if messi didn't get serious injury. Messi's facing muscle fatigue. messi needs to take a rest to bring back his muscle again.

The match against monaco is not so important for PSG. that's why messi wonn't play in that match.
their performance was really bad though, even if Messi did not play, he won't change that much in a match, and keep in mind that it's just Monaco, Bayern are in a different realm, i would be really surprised if PSG can survive against Bayern's attack, a draw won't be enough in the 1st leg, PSG need to win, and to be honest, i don't see that happening.
Without Messi, PSG three are really weak. Only because of Messi's great play and proper guidance, PSG is in a good position now. But if PSG leaves Messi out of the team, this team will be in a big problem. But Messi is old enough that he will be forced to leave the game at any time as his body weakens with age. So PSG will have to form a good team to retain their position without Messi

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February 12, 2023, 05:20:05 AM
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Messi's absence is bad news for PSG fans, because Messi is an important player on the front lines of PSG and without him it seems that PSG will have a little trouble in the match later.
I think that from the news, Messi will probably not be absence, he can still probably play in PSG when against Bayern in the UCL which will be held several days later. He got injured but it seems that it is not a big injury and hopefully he can really be okay and fit very soon.
https://www.thescore.com/s/24489605
But indeed, actually, PSG still has Mbappe that is really great as a player for the attacking line. But if PSG misses Messi in this match, it will seem quite different without Messi moreover because he is still the star at this time.
Yeah, galtier has been confirming it. https://www.eurosport.co.uk/football/lionel-messi-will-be-fit-to-face-bayern-munich-in-champions-league-tie-says-psg-boss-christophe-galtier_vid1834995/video.shtml

Messi will absence against monaco caused by messi will take a rest as preparation against bayern. As far as i know that if messi didn't get serious injury. Messi's facing muscle fatigue. messi needs to take a rest to bring back his muscle again.

The match against monaco is not so important for PSG. that's why messi wonn't play in that match.
their performance was really bad though, even if Messi did not play, he won't change that much in a match, and keep in mind that it's just Monaco, Bayern are in a different realm, i would be really surprised if PSG can survive against Bayern's attack, a draw won't be enough in the 1st leg, PSG need to win, and to be honest, i don't see that happening.
Without Messi, PSG three are really weak. Only because of Messi's great play and proper guidance, PSG is in a good position now. But if PSG leaves Messi out of the team, this team will be in a big problem. But Messi is old enough that he will be forced to leave the game at any time as his body weakens with age. So PSG will have to form a good team to retain their position without Messi
@coinerer what kind of sentimental argument is this? PSG was a strong team before the arrival of Messi, they played in every finals in the League 1 tournaments and one time finalist of the Champions league. With and without Messi PSG can still change for any title,  Messi just an added advantage to PSG team based on his previous Glory and achievements.
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February 12, 2023, 05:41:02 AM
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Speaking of chelsea, I still can't tag Borussia Dortmund well enough to be a hindrance to Chelsea in the champion league round of 16. Chelsea is not doing well in the domestic league but will perform extremely well in the champion league.
I'm glad that even with their condition they still made it to that phase of the champion league and I know they will go further than that.

I would like to know how you get such confidence? Borussia, even in its poor state, is the kind of team that can sometimes beat Bayern in a personal meeting, and now Dortmund is clearly on the rise. Chelsea seem to have forgotten what it's like to win (one win in the last 8 games lol). At the same time, I will note that initially, after the draw, I considered Chelsea a favorite in this pair, now I have changed my mind.

Dortmund winning Bayern even at their poor state can’t be compared to the champions league football. The morale and team spirit is different here. Chelsea from past seasons have shown much high level of expertise in the field of play in the champions league, much better than what Dortmund has showed. Even with Chelsea current form, I don’t think Dortmund are worthy opponent that will hinder them from qualifying to the next round of the competition.

honestly, chelsea is a bad team, they made a lot of good signings, but it will take a long time for each player to get used to playing for chelsea and have good interaction between players, in the last 5 games that chelsea played they only managed to score 2 goals, despite showing that they have a good defense, chelsea will play against dortmond, which is a team that has a good attack and good defense, so for me this game between chelsea and dortmond, I see dortmond as a favorite to win the game

if i were to place a bet i would bet on a draw or dortmond to win the game, chelsea don't play well, but of course they can surprise you in this game, maybe they are saving energy in the premeir league and in the champions league play more seriously, i prefer thinking like that despite being a ridiculous thought, but it serves as an excuse because I can't understand why chelsea with so many good players don't play well, don't have good results



PSG - Bayern

clearly bayern will win this game, i think that bayern's focus is on this game, PSG has injuries in important players, even if they recover in time to play they won't have rhythm

Milan - Tottenham

this will be the meeting between two broken teams, they don't have a good defense, they concede a lot of goals with any opponent, but tottenham have a big advantage in the attack, and milan is a complete disaster even in the attack, i see tottenham in better conditions to win in this game

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February 12, 2023, 06:43:50 AM
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First this champions League Round 16, it won't be an easy one for any team but surely the best teams will go through to the next round, we should also be expecting an upset. Because football is not played on paper at the end of the game you will be surprised to see the weaker team go through to the next round.
AC Milan and Tottenham any side can progress because the both teams are strong they match each others strength but it will be a slim scoreline,
Bayern Vs PSG is the best match to watch of the round of 16 as both teams have what it takes to go through to the next stage, the both teams have had a decline in form recently but can also have a great game, this game is going to be full of goals.
Chelsea Vs Dotmund, Dotmund will progress at the expense of Chelsea based on current form,
Liverpool Vs Madrid , I see Madrid going through, as Liverpool are not in their best if form recently,
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February 12, 2023, 07:02:36 AM
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It will only be difficult if the two teams were performing well in their domestic league, but as it stands now Tottenham is a better side than Milan. Milan in their last 4 matches performed poorly and they are currently not in a better position in their league standing compared to Tottenham. It is not bad to say that Tottenham is fitter and is currently a better side than Milan in this champion league round 16 Clashes
If you look at the position in their respective domestic league standings, Tottenham themselves are also not in a better position than Milan at the moment. Even though Milan's current position is still not safe if the two rivals below can win this weekend's match. But for the Champions League, it's a little difficult for me to make comparisons on these two teams because they have a very different way of playing and the performances they have shown this season.
it's hard to compare Tottenham and AC Milan based on just their league standings. Sure, Milan may be in a better position domestically at the moment, but that can change quickly with a few results going against them. And while Tottenham may not be doing as well in their league, they still have the ability to perform well in the Champions League. It's all about the players coming together and executing the game plan on the day. That's what makes the Champions League so exciting, anything can happen.

The strength of both teams is almost equal. Milan have been having bad results in Serie A lately. Tottenham also has inconsistent results in this regard. In the Premier League, you see that they win the hardest match, then you definitely lose the match they are favorite. It is very difficult to predict the team that will win, as it will be held at a time when both teams are going through inconsistent and difficult times.

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February 12, 2023, 07:42:52 AM
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Messi is a play maker, that's why Neymar and Mbappe can score many goals. It's really wrong if you think Messi will not give a huge impact to PSG, Messi almost always score a goal or give an assist in every match.

The first leg will happen on PSG's home, if PSG can't win or make it draw, I'm sure 100% Bayern Munich will win in the second leg.

Just check the odds, PSG is currently become an underdog and the odds is close to @3.00 in money line betting option. I think I would bet PSG since the odds is worth it, PSG will play with their best line up.
Messi's role is indeed very important for PSG's attack line this season and he has always been a key player in every PSG game without exception. But if you check the latest news regarding Messi and Mbappe who are doubtful due to injury and in the first leg against Bayern Munich I don't think it's a good decision if you want to bet on PSG.
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February 12, 2023, 07:46:04 AM
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First this champions League Round 16, it won't be an easy one for any team but surely the best teams will go through to the next round, we should also be expecting an upset. Because football is not played on paper at the end of the game you will be surprised to see the weaker team go through to the next round.
AC Milan and Tottenham any side can progress because the both teams are strong they match each others strength but it will be a slim scoreline,
Bayern Vs PSG is the best match to watch of the round of 16 as both teams have what it takes to go through to the next stage, the both teams have had a decline in form recently but can also have a great game, this game is going to be full of goals.
Chelsea Vs Dotmund, Dotmund will progress at the expense of Chelsea based on current form,
Liverpool Vs Madrid , I see Madrid going through, as Liverpool are not in their best if form recently,

It is true that it will be very difficult to determine which team will be able to advance to the next round with the big matches in the Chmapoints League this season. I'm not going to say all the teams, but most of the teams that are in the top 16 at the moment are not very stable, they don't just make mistakes but more than that, yes they make a lot of mistakes and their game doesn't improve that much if we see how they play in their respective leagues. They could bring that performance to the last 16 and it's very possible. I see maybe they are more careful in the match later.

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February 12, 2023, 08:26:29 AM
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Messi is a play maker, that's why Neymar and Mbappe can score many goals. It's really wrong if you think Messi will not give a huge impact to PSG, Messi almost always score a goal or give an assist in every match.

The first leg will happen on PSG's home, if PSG can't win or make it draw, I'm sure 100% Bayern Munich will win in the second leg.

Just check the odds, PSG is currently become an underdog and the odds is close to @3.00 in money line betting option. I think I would bet PSG since the odds is worth it, PSG will play with their best line up.
Messi's role is indeed very important for PSG's attack line this season and he has always been a key player in every PSG game without exception. But if you check the latest news regarding Messi and Mbappe who are doubtful due to injury and in the first leg against Bayern Munich I don't think it's a good decision if you want to bet on PSG.
Without Mbappe and Messi it will be a tough task for Neymar Jr to overcome the attack strategy. It is clear that PSG's attack line will look flawed. I don't doubt Neymar's performance, but it's not enough to rely on Neymar alone. PSG will find it difficult to face their opponents.

Messi was injured at a time when PSG really needed him. Moreover, he faced Bayern Munich, in terms of Bayern Munich's attack power we all know that it is not easy if PSG only plays defense.

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February 12, 2023, 08:52:06 AM
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Messi is a play maker, that's why Neymar and Mbappe can score many goals. It's really wrong if you think Messi will not give a huge impact to PSG, Messi almost always score a goal or give an assist in every match.

The first leg will happen on PSG's home, if PSG can't win or make it draw, I'm sure 100% Bayern Munich will win in the second leg.

Just check the odds, PSG is currently become an underdog and the odds is close to @3.00 in money line betting option. I think I would bet PSG since the odds is worth it, PSG will play with their best line up.
Messi's role is indeed very important for PSG's attack line this season and he has always been a key player in every PSG game without exception. But if you check the latest news regarding Messi and Mbappe who are doubtful due to injury and in the first leg against Bayern Munich I don't think it's a good decision if you want to bet on PSG.
Without Mbappe and Messi it will be a tough task for Neymar Jr to overcome the attack strategy. It is clear that PSG's attack line will look flawed. I don't doubt Neymar's performance, but it's not enough to rely on Neymar alone. PSG will find it difficult to face their opponents.

Messi was injured at a time when PSG really needed him. Moreover, he faced Bayern Munich, in terms of Bayern Munich's attack power we all know that it is not easy if PSG only plays defense.

There is this picture in my mind
Bayern Munich Wins the first leg and Psg comes back for the second leg to revenge
Just the way Barcelona did against PSG some years before

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February 12, 2023, 09:11:36 AM
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it's true that PSG will have a very difficult time if Messi and Mbappe are absent in the first leg against Bayern, this weekend in their domestic league PSG lost to Monaco and it was clear that their attack line was not working effectively when left by Mbappe and Messi, Neymar as the main player can't make many changes without the tandem of Messi and Mbappe.
PSG's performance is currently in the spotlight because those who can't be consistent especially when they have to fight Bayern are really very difficult, if you look at the player material that is owned by both teams then the logical percentage is equal opportunity for both teams but if we look at the performance of the two teams in their respective domestic leagues, of course PSG will find it very difficult to qualify for the next round.

If I'm not mistaken, then Messi will play in the match with Bayern, and only Mbappe will miss the game, so it will be easier for Neymar. But I think that Mbappe is the strongest of this trio of strikers, so the attack of PSG will not be complete without him. Bayern looks better if we evaluate teams by the results of the last matches, but it's still a superficial analysis of what the teams are capable of, we will see in the first match on Tuesday in Paris.

 
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February 12, 2023, 09:36:20 AM
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it's true that PSG will have a very difficult time if Messi and Mbappe are absent in the first leg against Bayern, this weekend in their domestic league PSG lost to Monaco and it was clear that their attack line was not working effectively when left by Mbappe and Messi, Neymar as the main player can't make many changes without the tandem of Messi and Mbappe.
PSG's performance is currently in the spotlight because those who can't be consistent especially when they have to fight Bayern are really very difficult, if you look at the player material that is owned by both teams then the logical percentage is equal opportunity for both teams but if we look at the performance of the two teams in their respective domestic leagues, of course PSG will find it very difficult to qualify for the next round.

If I'm not mistaken, then Messi will play in the match with Bayern, and only Mbappe will miss the game, so it will be easier for Neymar. But I think that Mbappe is the strongest of this trio of strikers, so the attack of PSG will not be complete without him. Bayern looks better if we evaluate teams by the results of the last matches, but it's still a superficial analysis of what the teams are capable of, we will see in the first match on Tuesday in Paris.
I think that anyone who has been watching the match between PSG against marseille might know how bad the performance of the team was without mbappe. Mbappe is the main player who has been scoring most of the goals by PSG in french league.
PSG will be facing bayern which is actually far harder compared with marseille. If PSG could not even win against marseille with messi and mbappe and how can PSG win the game against bayern?
I hope that mbappe will be seeing PSG to lose against bayern and then mbappe will be leaving the club and move to the another club. Mbappe is far better to join with another big club. Bayern's odd looks good as well.

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February 12, 2023, 09:48:19 AM
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it's true that PSG will have a very difficult time if Messi and Mbappe are absent in the first leg against Bayern, this weekend in their domestic league PSG lost to Monaco and it was clear that their attack line was not working effectively when left by Mbappe and Messi, Neymar as the main player can't make many changes without the tandem of Messi and Mbappe.
PSG's performance is currently in the spotlight because those who can't be consistent especially when they have to fight Bayern are really very difficult, if you look at the player material that is owned by both teams then the logical percentage is equal opportunity for both teams but if we look at the performance of the two teams in their respective domestic leagues, of course PSG will find it very difficult to qualify for the next round.

If I'm not mistaken, then Messi will play in the match with Bayern, and only Mbappe will miss the game, so it will be easier for Neymar. But I think that Mbappe is the strongest of this trio of strikers, so the attack of PSG will not be complete without him. Bayern looks better if we evaluate teams by the results of the last matches, but it's still a superficial analysis of what the teams are capable of, we will see in the first match on Tuesday in Paris.

It is very natural that there are many who doubt PSG's performance in the round of 16 match later. especially in their last two matches, PSG suffered defeat. without Mbappe, Messi and even Neymar, PSG is not a difficult opponent to be defeated by Bayern later. however, it looks like Messi will be included in the main starting line-up for PSG against Bayern. talking about the match later, we don't know what Galtier will implement, what formation they will use. even if Mabppe has to be absent in the match later, Galtier still has Ekitike's options. but to be honest, I also really doubt PSG's performance against Bayern Munich later.

On the other hand, positive signals are starting to side with the Ngalemanns troop. the reason is, they were able to get out of the downward trend and return to the winning track in their last two matches. meaning, it seems that Bayern Munich is more prepared to face the round of 16 match later than PSG.
maybe, Ngalesmann will take advantage of the momentum in the first leg to be an advantage for them.

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