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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
Total Voters: 147

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March 05, 2023, 02:34:53 PM
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Honestly, in recent years, Real has been much more successful in the Champions League than in the Spanish Championship, and they have been European champions more times than Spanish champions.
On the other hand, Barcelona dominates the Spanish championship almost every year, but for the last 2 years they have not been able to make it to the knockout phase of the Champions League.
It's really impossible to explain things like this in a rational and logical way.
Last season, Real was underestimated by most experts and miraculously saved itself in many games, and in the end won the Champions League trophy.
Real obviously has that certain factor x that other clubs do not have in the Champions League and that is why they are again my favorites to win the Champions League.
Yes, I agree with you, Real Madrid is very different when playing in the UCL. Real Madrid has been fated to become the True King of Europe, because in the Champions League era, if Madrid had advanced to the final round, they would definitely win and become champions, meaning that the bottom line is that Real Madrid is so tough and powerful when it comes to the UCL final.

It must be admitted that this year's Champions League against opponents Real Madrid was tough from the top 16 to the final, PSG, Chelsea, Man city and Liverpool are all great clubs. Even though they weren't superior at that time and had been unconvincing in the Group phase, in the end Real Madrid's journey paid off.

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March 05, 2023, 02:37:02 PM
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Indeed, PSG can also win without Neymar, in the previous match, they played with a 4-4-2 formation and deliberately backed down to accept the defense to take advantage of the space behind Bayern Munich's high defense, they were wrong to use that tactic. I think they need to push the lineup like they did at the end of the game and this time start with a 4-3-3 to look for a goal as soon as the game starts and their defense needs to be more cohesive, not messy, disorderly as recently. Perhaps they must do so to expect a victory over the mighty and comprehensive Bayern Munich.


I think With Neymar out then the 3-5-2 could be the possible formation, they’re by choking Bayern’s midfield and stopping them from using their fast wingers against counter attacks. This formation might really have over work Nuno Mendez and Mukiele but once they get at least a goal then the likes of Carlos soler and Juan Bernat could come on to see the game off. But it is going to be hard match for PSG because of lack of depth upfront

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March 05, 2023, 02:40:17 PM
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Indeed, PSG can also win without Neymar, in the previous match, they played with a 4-4-2 formation and deliberately backed down to accept the defense to take advantage of the space behind Bayern Munich's high defense, they were wrong to use that tactic. I think they need to push the lineup like they did at the end of the game and this time start with a 4-3-3 to look for a goal as soon as the game starts and their defense needs to be more cohesive, not messy, disorderly as recently. Perhaps they must do so to expect a victory over the mighty and comprehensive Bayern Munich.


I think With Neymar out then the 3-5-2 could be the possible formation, they’re by choking Bayern’s midfield and stopping them from using their fast wingers against counter attacks. This formation might really have over work Nuno Mendez and Mukiele but once they get at least a goal then the likes of Carlos soler and Juan Bernat could come on to see the game off. But it is going to be hard match for PSG because of lack of depth upfront

I think that the odd of 3.85 for Paris is a good one to give a try,it is near 4 and everything can happen with a team like Paris which has a lot of star players in them.I am not saying that I am underestimating Bayern Munchen as you can never underestimate a team like them but I am just saying that it is worth to give a try for Paris because Paris is trying for so many years not successfully to get to win the Champions League and this would be if I am not mistaken their 10th consecutive year without such title.I am not saying that they will qualify but that they have got nothing to lose and will go all in here because in Ligue 1 they are already the winners there.

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March 05, 2023, 02:42:34 PM
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The Manchester City team is in a good position in the Champions League. However, if Manchester City is able to perform in the Champions League like the English Premier League, then the team will be a great prospect.
The second leg will be a little easier for Manchester City because previously in the first leg Manchester City were able to draw at home to Leipzig. Meanwhile, in the second leg, Manchester City will appear at home with enormous motivation to win the match and that will make Leipzig's chances of winning the match a little tougher. Although unexpected surprises can also occur in the second leg match at home to Manchester City.
Manchester City must be able to appear to attack and score goals as quickly as possible, after that they can control the game comfortably. In the previous meeting they actually could do it, it's just that they found it difficult to penetrate the defense built by Leipzig and create goals for the second time. They have a good front line, but they can't rely on just one player, like Haaland, because if his spearhead can be stopped by the Leipzig defenders it will cost them. So they must have an option that can destroy the defense from Leipzig.

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March 05, 2023, 03:01:03 PM
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But it's not just about the gap between Chelsea and the top of the table, they can start thinking about the gap when they start earning the points and stop performing like a weak team, while as far as we see Chelsea losing the games against many weak teams and even for any team that's easy to score a goal against Chelsea and beat them while if you check the last games they had Chelsea had problems with forward and scoring goals.
The problems facing Chelsea at the moment are comprehensive, besides they are very difficult to score goals they are also experiencing problems in their midfield. Different from last season, now Chelsea lack creative midfielders who can flow the ball mature for the players on the front lines. The flow of the ball between them also didn't go perfectly, and that's what allowed the opponent to take advantage if they made a mistake.

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March 05, 2023, 03:30:48 PM
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Indeed, PSG can also win without Neymar, in the previous match, they played with a 4-4-2 formation and deliberately backed down to accept the defense to take advantage of the space behind Bayern Munich's high defense, they were wrong to use that tactic. I think they need to push the lineup like they did at the end of the game and this time start with a 4-3-3 to look for a goal as soon as the game starts and their defense needs to be more cohesive, not messy, disorderly as recently. Perhaps they must do so to expect a victory over the mighty and comprehensive Bayern Munich.


I think they have to play a little aggressively if they want to win this second leg, as well as the strategy they have to implement as well as possible, because this match is important for them, they need a little extra strategic encouragement especially when they face Bayern Munich who have been very good so far. competition, as well as Bayern Munich they have to be observant / thorough in the second leg, will determine who will qualify for the next round, I think Bayern Munich themselves have prepared very well.

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March 05, 2023, 03:38:59 PM
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Indeed, PSG can also win without Neymar, in the previous match, they played with a 4-4-2 formation and deliberately backed down to accept the defense to take advantage of the space behind Bayern Munich's high defense, they were wrong to use that tactic. I think they need to push the lineup like they did at the end of the game and this time start with a 4-3-3 to look for a goal as soon as the game starts and their defense needs to be more cohesive, not messy, disorderly as recently. Perhaps they must do so to expect a victory over the mighty and comprehensive Bayern Munich.


I think they have to play a little aggressively if they want to win this second leg, as well as the strategy they have to implement as well as possible, because this match is important for them, they need a little extra strategic encouragement especially when they face Bayern Munich who have been very good so far. competition, as well as Bayern Munich they have to be observant / thorough in the second leg, will determine who will qualify for the next round, I think Bayern Munich themselves have prepared very well.
I haven't seen any outstanding performances from PSG in the Champions League so far. The team is the best ever for League One. After adding Lionel Messi to the team, I did not notice any extraordinary performance.

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March 05, 2023, 05:04:58 PM
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Indeed, PSG can also win without Neymar, in the previous match, they played with a 4-4-2 formation and deliberately backed down to accept the defense to take advantage of the space behind Bayern Munich's high defense, they were wrong to use that tactic. I think they need to push the lineup like they did at the end of the game and this time start with a 4-3-3 to look for a goal as soon as the game starts and their defense needs to be more cohesive, not messy, disorderly as recently. Perhaps they must do so to expect a victory over the mighty and comprehensive Bayern Munich.


I think they have to play a little aggressively if they want to win this second leg, as well as the strategy they have to implement as well as possible, because this match is important for them, they need a little extra strategic encouragement especially when they face Bayern Munich who have been very good so far. competition, as well as Bayern Munich they have to be observant / thorough in the second leg, will determine who will qualify for the next round, I think Bayern Munich themselves have prepared very well.
And keep in mind the team they will face is Bayern Munich where they are one of the candidates to become champions. They must be able to implement the best possible strategy, they must minimize mistakes that will benefit the opposing team. Bayern Munich is a team that can attack at any time, they have a good team balance from their back line, midfield to their front line.

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March 05, 2023, 05:16:02 PM
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City's chance to overthrow Leipzig in the second leg is quite big, because in terms of quality, Leipzig is below City. but, what's interesting is the Chelsea vs Dortmund match. because after all, it was not an easy match for Dortmund to move on to the next round phase, even though Dortmund only needed a draw in the match against Chelsea. because, Chelsea will not let Dortmund easily topple them.

At least, this match will present a very interesting match because Chelsea will go all out to win the match over Dortmund. I'm sure Edin Terzic is well aware of that. most likely, Dortmund will play more defensively in the match later. In essence, Chelsea still has a chance to move on to the next phase. because of that, I'm sure this match will present a fierce battle with high game tension even though Chelsea is in a messy performance.
City should have basically made it guaranteed like Real did even in the first game if you ask me. In any case, we are going to end up watching a good football once again by City, they have amazing players and a great chemistry. We haven't seen Haaland being as dominant as he was at the start of the season and score some insane goals, not just amount of goals but the way he scores, I am suspecting that this could be one of those.

Because he both has a good team with him, but also plays against a club that he played so many times before when he was in Bundesliga as well so he should be aware of the strengths and weaknesses of Leipzig and help his team as well.
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Oh my, my! We'll have to agree to disagree on Manchester City's performance against Leipzig. While I agree that they created some good chances and played well, their inability to convert them into goals left me in a state of perpetual perplexity. However, I do agree that Leipzig won't stand a chance in the second leg at the Etihad. Nonetheless, let us not dismiss Leipzig altogether, for they have a remarkable domestic league record and have proven their mettle at the highest level.

And as for LIV vs. RM, it's like trying to compare apples to oranges. Liverpool may have a strong team this season, but Real Madrid is currently on fire. And as a real Real fan, I believe that LIV can not make any comeback

It seems to me that in the return game, Leipzig will first again play completely closed football (teams that play ball control always have problems against this tactic) and then, depending on their success (whether they concede a goal or not), they will either press like in the first game, or endure until the end of regular time. It seems to me that if City don't score a lucky goal at the beginning of the game, then there is a high probability that we will see 0-0 in regular time. Everyone underestimates Leipzig, even the defeat against Dortmund only emphasized that they are very strong.

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March 05, 2023, 07:00:23 PM
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Manchester City were really surprising against Leipzig in the first leg. Their performance in the second half especially was really unsatisfying and that was why they got a draw there. But in Etihad I don't think Leipzig will be able to stand much chance against them. I don't expect to watch the same Manchester City this time. Guardiola would warn his players about their mistakes in the previous match and we would see them showing a solid performance this time.

Leipzig aren't a big obstacle for them. The real challenge would be against Real Madrid for example. We all must be remembering that legendary draw last season.
Oh my, my! We'll have to agree to disagree on Manchester City's performance against Leipzig. While I agree that they created some good chances and played well, their inability to convert them into goals left me in a state of perpetual perplexity. However, I do agree that Leipzig won't stand a chance in the second leg at the Etihad. Nonetheless, let us not dismiss Leipzig altogether, for they have a remarkable domestic league record and have proven their mettle at the highest level.

And as for LIV vs. RM, it's like trying to compare apples to oranges. Liverpool may have a strong team this season, but Real Madrid is currently on fire. And as a real Real fan, I believe that LIV can not make any comeback

You are right that Real Madrid is on fire in the Champions League, but so much focus is hindering their work in the Spanish League with a gap of 10 points between them and Barça (although they have played one match less), and they also conceded the game in the first leg of the Copa del Rey semifinals, again, against FC Barcelona.

I hope them good luck in the Champions this year: otherwise, they can end the season with just the Club World Cup in their palmares.

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I haven't seen any outstanding performances from PSG in the Champions League so far. The team is the best ever for League One. After adding Lionel Messi to the team, I did not notice any extraordinary performance.
Well i don't think anyone can outrightly say you are wrong in what you say, quite a lot of people, especially PSG fans expected more from the trio of Messi, Neymar and Mbappe, but they are currently not delivering the trophy that PSG fans want, which happens to be the CL. When they were eliminated by Real Madrid last season in the RO16, so many of their fans turned against them and started booing some players during their subsequent Ligue 1 matches, all of these was done to air their displeasure at that elimination.

PSG players will have that at the back of their minds coming into this second leg game against Bayern Munich, they cannot disappoint their fans twice in a row at exactly the same stage of the competition, but the reality is that they are staring elimination in the face, they are already losing, and they are going to the home of the German champions, which isn't an easy ground to win it, i think Bayern Munich are going to progress to the QF.

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March 05, 2023, 07:28:12 PM
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And as for LIV vs. RM, it's like trying to compare apples to oranges. Liverpool may have a strong team this season, but Real Madrid is currently on fire. And as a real Real fan, I believe that LIV can not make any comeback
In the Premier League match tonight, Liverpool showed extraordinary performance. And they won the game with a score of 7-0. But can they do the same when dealing with Real Madrid. This is what many Liverpool fans are hoping for right now. But I'm sure Liverpool will find it difficult to qualify for the last 8 even if they win the game.

On record, Liverpool have always failed to qualify for the next round when dealing with Real Madrid. In the last few matches between Real Madrid vs Liverpool, only in 2009 Liverpool could beat Real Madrid in the first and second legs.

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March 05, 2023, 07:37:20 PM
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Well i don't think anyone can outrightly say you are wrong in what you say, quite a lot of people, especially PSG fans expected more from the trio of Messi, Neymar and Mbappe, but they are currently not delivering the trophy that PSG fans want, which happens to be the CL. When they were eliminated by Real Madrid last season in the RO16, so many of their fans turned against them and started booing some players during their subsequent Ligue 1 matches, all of these was done to air their displeasure at that elimination.
It is certain that PSG fans, if they lose again, will sneer at the players who cannot advance to the next round, considering that the existing squad and some of the expensive star players cannot provide the trophy that fans want, of course, from losing the season again, remembering them with many shouts that don't like it but that's the reality that PSG with a myriad of great players is still unable to win the UCL trophy and even I doubt it for the current season even though Messi and Mbappe are in it.

PSG players will have that at the back of their minds coming into this second leg game against Bayern Munich, they cannot disappoint their fans twice in a row at exactly the same stage of the competition, but the reality is that they are staring elimination in the face, they are already losing, and they are going to the home of the German champions, which isn't an easy ground to win it, i think Bayern Munich are going to progress to the QF.
Bayern Munich themselves at home have more control and I know how Bayern Munich can survive the situation that will be faced with PSG, maybe this will be the second time again or the joy that will be given after they go to Germany, but still I have predictions that are uncertain, but what is clear is that Bayern's strength there is stronger than PSG.

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March 05, 2023, 07:56:42 PM
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It's true that in the previous match in the Le Classique match, PSG appeared without Neymar but could still score 3 goals, even though it was a big game in the domestic league. But still, their opponent this time in the UCL is Bayern Munich, which cannot be underestimated. It's just that PSG seems to be at their wit's end in the second leg later without Neymar, even though they can catch up on aggregate points, the chances are very small. Meanwhile, Bayern Munich with a full squad and playing at home is 100% certain to win this match in a matter of normal 90 minutes.
In my opinion PSG can still perform very well without Neymar, with Lionel Messi and Kylian Mbappe available for the match against Bayern Munich I believe PSG will cause much problems for their opponent. Bayern Munich playing at home seem to have an advantage in this meeting but I am expecting a hungry PSG team to be the better side on match day.

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It seems to me that in the return game, Leipzig will first again play completely closed football (teams that play ball control always have problems against this tactic) and then, depending on their success (whether they concede a goal or not), they will either press like in the first game, or endure until the end of regular time. It seems to me that if City don't score a lucky goal at the beginning of the game, then there is a high probability that we will see 0-0 in regular time. Everyone underestimates Leipzig, even the defeat against Dortmund only emphasized that they are very strong.
Manchester City are 1 of the best teams in the world and I do not think you should be quick to say if they do not get a lucky goal. Manchester City are better then Leipzig but I agree people to under estimate them because they come from the Bundesliga because a lot of people only know Dortmund and Bayern from the Bundesliga but it is a very good league and better then the French and Spanish leagues because it is more competitive. Bayern do win most of the time but Dortmund and Union are pushing Bayern close this season. I think Manchester City are 1 of the favorites for this years champions league and if Leipzig can stop them that would be a huge achievement for Leipzig.
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March 05, 2023, 08:05:23 PM
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In my opinion PSG can still perform very well without Neymar, with Lionel Messi and Kylian Mbappe available for the match against Bayern Munich I believe PSG will cause much problems for their opponent. Bayern Munich playing at home seem to have an advantage in this meeting but I am expecting a hungry PSG team to be the better side on match day.
PSG does have many reliable players on the front lines, but can they bring PSG through to the last 8? We have watched the match in the first leg, Bayern Munich played very well even though it was at home to PSG. Even the Bayern Munich players overwhelmed the mainstay of PSG. In my opinion, PSG's thirst to get 1 UCL trophy this season will run aground in the hands of Julian Nagelsmann.
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March 05, 2023, 08:07:21 PM
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PSG does have many reliable players on the front lines, but can they bring PSG through to the last 8? We have watched the match in the first leg, Bayern Munich played very well even though it was at home to PSG. Even the Bayern Munich players overwhelmed the mainstay of PSG. In my opinion, PSG's thirst to get 1 UCL trophy this season will run aground in the hands of Julian Nagelsmann.
PSG have a very good attack but they are individual players and do not always work as a team but I think the biggest void PSG have is their defense they rarely keep clean sheets in the Champions League and I think they need to invest in better defenders in the future if they they want to win the Champions League some day. I think they will not get past this leg and if they do they will be knocked out in the next stage.
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March 05, 2023, 08:25:29 PM
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PSG does have many reliable players on the front lines, but can they bring PSG through to the last 8? We have watched the match in the first leg, Bayern Munich played very well even though it was at home to PSG. Even the Bayern Munich players overwhelmed the mainstay of PSG. In my opinion, PSG's thirst to get 1 UCL trophy this season will run aground in the hands of Julian Nagelsmann.
PSG have a very good attack but they are individual players and do not always work as a team but I think the biggest void PSG have is their defense they rarely keep clean sheets in the Champions League and I think they need to invest in better defenders in the future if they they want to win the Champions League some day. I think they will not get past this leg and if they do they will be knocked out in the next stage.

I don't think that PSG has only weak defenders, but their philosophy and game understanding is quite different from that of many other teams. You actually name it yourself, they don't work as a team from offense to defense. It is said that the defense begins with your offensive players and when you have Messi, Neymar and Mbappe on the pitch, how many of them are also working defensively? Who of them is known for outstanding defensive work even as an attacker? That's the difference compared to most of the other teams. They have strong offensive lines as well, but two out of three players are often willing to work backwards, too. The whole offensive line of PSG is usually more or less waiting for the ball and nowadays only Messi takes the ball from the first third and carries it forward and plays a precise long ball.

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March 05, 2023, 08:41:46 PM
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In my opinion PSG can still perform very well without Neymar, with Lionel Messi and Kylian Mbappe available for the match against Bayern Munich I believe PSG will cause much problems for their opponent. Bayern Munich playing at home seem to have an advantage in this meeting but I am expecting a hungry PSG team to be the better side on match day.
Neymar is very important in PSG squad depth but because the average PSG player is of high quality, when an injury is suffered by one of the players it doesn't have a negative enough impact on their squad. Galtier can still count on Mbappe and Messi when Neymar is absent so there is no comparison between losing Neymar and PSG playing better. Neymar has a pretty good soul in finishing and he is an all-rounder in outwitting opposing defenses.

in the champions league a team really expects to be able to play with a complete squad alias no core players who are injured. especially in this second leg PSG will travel to the Allianz Stadium with the capital of defeat from the first leg, so PSG must really be able to take advantage of this second leg match as well as possible to get a win.

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