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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
Total Voters: 147

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March 05, 2023, 01:22:26 PM
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It's now a problem to all the England teams in the champion league round of 16. Non was able to record a win in the first leg.
Manchester city whom I thought was going to have an easy qualification to the next phase is giving me cold feet on their ability.  The more difficult circumstance is chelsea who will have nothing to talk if successfully sent away by Borussia Dortmund. With Dortmund current form, it will be so difficult for Chelsea to turn things round.
There is no doubt that Manchester City is the only team from England who will qualify for the next round even though they are now on the same aggregate as Leipzig. But for Chelsea I have no more hope for this club considering they are still slumped in the domestic league, but last night's match Chelsea was able to win with a narrow score but that was not enough to compensate for Dortmund's performance this season which was so extraordinary. So I think Chelsea will be eliminated in the second leg later against Dortmund, even though Chelsea are the hosts but that is not a strong guarantee that can make them safe.

The round 16 Champions League first round was not a good one for the English clubs. Apart from Manchester City who managed to get a draw others lost.  However, every other club in England still has good chances to qualify in the second leg except Liverpool.
Chelsea can easily get a goal against Dortmund and they will battle it out.
Tottenham can put up a fight against Milan and they would also get the results so it is not over for them. It is only Liverpool that I don't believe can survive against Madrid
It's true that only Liverpool is currently the worst luck among other English clubs. But even if Liverpool can win at the Santiago Bernabeu they have to at least score 3 goals and of course Real Madrid will not let that happen. Jurgen Klopp seems to be ready with the results received later if Liverpool cannot qualify for the next round of the UCL.
I will be a little hopeful if the match was first held at Santiago Bernabeau and the returning leg was to hold in Anfield. I know a little more impact will be added cuz home advantage plus fans influence will contribute positively to Liverpool's performance.  But as it stands I'm already seeing Liverpool out of the UEFA champion league zone this season . Really do hope Joggen club figures out the main problem of his team so he could start the next season with optimistic results.

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March 05, 2023, 01:24:30 PM
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The Manchester City team is in a good position in the Champions League. However, if Manchester City is able to perform in the Champions League like the English Premier League, then the team will be a great prospect.
The second leg will be a little easier for Manchester City because previously in the first leg Manchester City were able to draw at home to Leipzig. Meanwhile, in the second leg, Manchester City will appear at home with enormous motivation to win the match and that will make Leipzig's chances of winning the match a little tougher. Although unexpected surprises can also occur in the second leg match at home to Manchester City.
Even though they will play at home in the second leg later which is an advantage for them, they cannot reduce their vigilance towards Leipzig, because the visitors will also be motivated to beat Manchester City to be able to advance to the next round. I really regret that Manchester City couldn't win in the first leg, because from what I saw they were very capable of doing it, and also if only Pep had rotated his players to increase their chances of winning.

Pep for real knows how to defeat German sides
Liepzig will be no exception when they face Man City during the second of this round
So far they are tur only better premier league side in the champions league this season.

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March 05, 2023, 01:28:24 PM
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Chelsea won't be among team in the premier league that will be participating for next season, Chelsea performance is not up to champions league standard. Next season will be used to revive and strengthen the team. Chelsea has lots of work to do to improve the team in the way it used to be in the past.
The gap between chelsea to the top 4 is too far. It will not able to be chased by chelsea although if chelsea will always be winning the game until the end of season. Chelsea is now facing a difficult situation. The match against dortmund will come very soon. The performance of chelsea was still the same. The goal against leeds can't be considered a good thing to take a conclusion whether chelsea has been entering into the right track or not.

After saw the match against leeds and im not feeling satisfied with the performance from chelsea. Chelsea was losing its way to making goal through used the team work. The ability that already owned by chelsea to make fast counter attack already disappeared.
The goal that already made by fofana was actually lucky goal. Will chelsea play with the same strategy like when it was against leeds united?


But it's not just about the gap between Chelsea and the top of the table, they can start thinking about the gap when they start earning the points and stop performing like a weak team, while as far as we see Chelsea losing the games against many weak teams and even for any team that's easy to score a goal against Chelsea and beat them while if you check the last games they had Chelsea had problems with forward and scoring goals.

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March 05, 2023, 01:48:39 PM
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It's now a problem to all the England teams in the champion league round of 16. Non was able to record a win in the first leg.
Manchester city whom I thought was going to have an easy qualification to the next phase is giving me cold feet on their ability.  The more difficult circumstance is chelsea who will have nothing to talk if successfully sent away by Borussia Dortmund. With Dortmund current form, it will be so difficult for Chelsea to turn things round.
There is no doubt that Manchester City is the only team from England who will qualify for the next round even though they are now on the same aggregate as Leipzig. But for Chelsea I have no more hope for this club considering they are still slumped in the domestic league, but last night's match Chelsea was able to win with a narrow score but that was not enough to compensate for Dortmund's performance this season which was so extraordinary. So I think Chelsea will be eliminated in the second leg later against Dortmund, even though Chelsea are the hosts but that is not a strong guarantee that can make them safe.

City's chance to overthrow Leipzig in the second leg is quite big, because in terms of quality, Leipzig is below City. but, what's interesting is the Chelsea vs Dortmund match. because after all, it was not an easy match for Dortmund to move on to the next round phase, even though Dortmund only needed a draw in the match against Chelsea. because, Chelsea will not let Dortmund easily topple them.

At least, this match will present a very interesting match because Chelsea will go all out to win the match over Dortmund. I'm sure Edin Terzic is well aware of that. most likely, Dortmund will play more defensively in the match later. In essence, Chelsea still has a chance to move on to the next phase. because of that, I'm sure this match will present a fierce battle with high game tension even though Chelsea is in a messy performance.

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March 05, 2023, 02:00:47 PM
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Bayern Munich this season they are too strong possesses a uniform squad, the game has improved compared to last season when balancing between defense and attack. I think Neymar will have to miss the next 2 matches, Neymar will not be able to recover from an ankle injury to join the PSG squad in the confrontation with Bayern Munich, Surely his absence is a significant loss for PSG in the effort to come back. In the first leg, the French capital team lost 0-1 at home. I also heard that midfielder Kimpembe will also miss this match due to an Achilles tendon injury in the match against Marseille in the 25th round of Ligue 1.
I am not entirely sure if Bayern is better this year than last year, by the looks of it they are not, look at the league and you will see that they are basically worse at this moment, at least in the league.

However, PSG is not doing that great neither, and it is not even about Neymar because they can win without Neymar too, they are doing a bit better, but at the end of the day we are talking about a team that will end up with a lot of trouble if they don't start playing better. Even with just Messi and Mbappe they should be able to win, and that is why they need to be much better, Bayern don't have stars like that, and they still manage to win.

We expect much more from both teams PSG and Bayern Munich mostly because of their financial situation and the investment they had for this season, I think comparing the last years Bayern Munich is not performing well enough and they have Dortmund racing with them in Bundesliga for the title while PSG also can't use Neymar probably while in the last game, Bayern Munich won the game win a 1-0 result I expect to see a better performance from PSG in the next game to take revenge. 
Indeed, PSG can also win without Neymar, in the previous match, they played with a 4-4-2 formation and deliberately backed down to accept the defense to take advantage of the space behind Bayern Munich's high defense, they were wrong to use that tactic. I think they need to push the lineup like they did at the end of the game and this time start with a 4-3-3 to look for a goal as soon as the game starts and their defense needs to be more cohesive, not messy, disorderly as recently. Perhaps they must do so to expect a victory over the mighty and comprehensive Bayern Munich.

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March 05, 2023, 02:10:45 PM
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Chelsea secured victory in the Premier League against Leeds United yesterday. However, the Chelsea team also has a great influence in the Champions League. Although they have lost some matches, they still have a great chance to do well in the Champions League.
Chelsea was securing victory by playing monoton tactic. Potter is not a creative coach that can use various tactic for its club while chelsea can be called as a team with so many players. Chelsea has around 35 players in total. That means if the coach was so smart and chelsea can use various formation but potter keeps use the same strategy over and over.

We can see that from the statistic.



Dortmund is actually above compared with chelsea in all of things except the duration of ball possession which is not an important thing but dortmund is far leading compared with chelsea in total goals that already made.

It's clear that although if the next game will be happening in stamford bridge and chelsea is not become may favorite to win the match as dortmund able to perform better.

I think that we shall take a look at the performance curve from both of team.

Chelsea's curve



dortmund's curve



https://one-versus-one.com/en/teams/chelsea-vs-borussia-dortmund#line-ups

As you can see that if chelsea is showing down trend while dortmund is still able to keep its performance to sustain. That's why picking dortmund is far more reasonable compared with chelsea.





These are some interesting insights. Both graphics are quite telling and it shows what Chelsea has to fix quickly if they want to advance to the next round. Dortmund is a bit weaker when it comes to conceding goals, but that is where Chelsea's problem also is, they just don't score enough and can't exploit that small weakness of Dortmund when you compare them to Chelsea. The expected goals line is also very telling because it says that Dortmund is creating many chance during a game, which means that Chelsea despite playing at home will have a lot of work to do to keep Dortmund away from trying.

The performance trend curve allows only for one interpretation, or not even an interpretation, but an apparent difference between the two teams. Dortmund is above 90 all the time while Chelsea is way worse.

What I don't understand about the performance trend lines, is every subsequent data point scored relative to the previous one? That is sort of misleading because the volatility in Dortmund's line suggests that they are not very consistent, but they are consistently winning, only the number of goals deviates between the data points. It is odd that the 5:1 is so much higher than the 0:2 when you then compare the 4:1 to the 0:1. Do you know how they calculate that line?
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March 05, 2023, 02:26:35 PM
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Real Madrid are known for come backs in the Champions league and are the team to win the most champion leagues. They are made for the champions league but I do not think they are at their strongest and beating Liverpool is not hard these days. Brighton in the Premier League recently beat them by 3 goals and Liverpool have been knocked out of every other cup competition. Real Madrid are good but they are not as good as previous seasons so if we are going to have a new winner this might be the season because Real Madrid will correct their problems at the end of the season when they can buy new players.
Real Madrid have always been impressing in the Champions league games, they could be performing bad in the la liga and put up a good show the next week in the Champions league. It just shows how much they value the Champions league trophy and this season they are doing it again. At this point, Real Madrid don't seem to have much hope of winning the la liga so all focus will be channelled to the Champions league.

Honestly, in recent years, Real has been much more successful in the Champions League than in the Spanish Championship, and they have been European champions more times than Spanish champions.
On the other hand, Barcelona dominates the Spanish championship almost every year, but for the last 2 years they have not been able to make it to the knockout phase of the Champions League.
It's really impossible to explain things like this in a rational and logical way.
Last season, Real was underestimated by most experts and miraculously saved itself in many games, and in the end won the Champions League trophy.
Real obviously has that certain factor x that other clubs do not have in the Champions League and that is why they are again my favorites to win the Champions League.

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March 05, 2023, 02:34:53 PM
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Honestly, in recent years, Real has been much more successful in the Champions League than in the Spanish Championship, and they have been European champions more times than Spanish champions.
On the other hand, Barcelona dominates the Spanish championship almost every year, but for the last 2 years they have not been able to make it to the knockout phase of the Champions League.
It's really impossible to explain things like this in a rational and logical way.
Last season, Real was underestimated by most experts and miraculously saved itself in many games, and in the end won the Champions League trophy.
Real obviously has that certain factor x that other clubs do not have in the Champions League and that is why they are again my favorites to win the Champions League.
Yes, I agree with you, Real Madrid is very different when playing in the UCL. Real Madrid has been fated to become the True King of Europe, because in the Champions League era, if Madrid had advanced to the final round, they would definitely win and become champions, meaning that the bottom line is that Real Madrid is so tough and powerful when it comes to the UCL final.

It must be admitted that this year's Champions League against opponents Real Madrid was tough from the top 16 to the final, PSG, Chelsea, Man city and Liverpool are all great clubs. Even though they weren't superior at that time and had been unconvincing in the Group phase, in the end Real Madrid's journey paid off.

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March 05, 2023, 02:37:02 PM
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Indeed, PSG can also win without Neymar, in the previous match, they played with a 4-4-2 formation and deliberately backed down to accept the defense to take advantage of the space behind Bayern Munich's high defense, they were wrong to use that tactic. I think they need to push the lineup like they did at the end of the game and this time start with a 4-3-3 to look for a goal as soon as the game starts and their defense needs to be more cohesive, not messy, disorderly as recently. Perhaps they must do so to expect a victory over the mighty and comprehensive Bayern Munich.


I think With Neymar out then the 3-5-2 could be the possible formation, they’re by choking Bayern’s midfield and stopping them from using their fast wingers against counter attacks. This formation might really have over work Nuno Mendez and Mukiele but once they get at least a goal then the likes of Carlos soler and Juan Bernat could come on to see the game off. But it is going to be hard match for PSG because of lack of depth upfront

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March 05, 2023, 02:40:17 PM
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Indeed, PSG can also win without Neymar, in the previous match, they played with a 4-4-2 formation and deliberately backed down to accept the defense to take advantage of the space behind Bayern Munich's high defense, they were wrong to use that tactic. I think they need to push the lineup like they did at the end of the game and this time start with a 4-3-3 to look for a goal as soon as the game starts and their defense needs to be more cohesive, not messy, disorderly as recently. Perhaps they must do so to expect a victory over the mighty and comprehensive Bayern Munich.


I think With Neymar out then the 3-5-2 could be the possible formation, they’re by choking Bayern’s midfield and stopping them from using their fast wingers against counter attacks. This formation might really have over work Nuno Mendez and Mukiele but once they get at least a goal then the likes of Carlos soler and Juan Bernat could come on to see the game off. But it is going to be hard match for PSG because of lack of depth upfront

I think that the odd of 3.85 for Paris is a good one to give a try,it is near 4 and everything can happen with a team like Paris which has a lot of star players in them.I am not saying that I am underestimating Bayern Munchen as you can never underestimate a team like them but I am just saying that it is worth to give a try for Paris because Paris is trying for so many years not successfully to get to win the Champions League and this would be if I am not mistaken their 10th consecutive year without such title.I am not saying that they will qualify but that they have got nothing to lose and will go all in here because in Ligue 1 they are already the winners there.

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March 05, 2023, 02:42:34 PM
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The Manchester City team is in a good position in the Champions League. However, if Manchester City is able to perform in the Champions League like the English Premier League, then the team will be a great prospect.
The second leg will be a little easier for Manchester City because previously in the first leg Manchester City were able to draw at home to Leipzig. Meanwhile, in the second leg, Manchester City will appear at home with enormous motivation to win the match and that will make Leipzig's chances of winning the match a little tougher. Although unexpected surprises can also occur in the second leg match at home to Manchester City.
Manchester City must be able to appear to attack and score goals as quickly as possible, after that they can control the game comfortably. In the previous meeting they actually could do it, it's just that they found it difficult to penetrate the defense built by Leipzig and create goals for the second time. They have a good front line, but they can't rely on just one player, like Haaland, because if his spearhead can be stopped by the Leipzig defenders it will cost them. So they must have an option that can destroy the defense from Leipzig.

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But it's not just about the gap between Chelsea and the top of the table, they can start thinking about the gap when they start earning the points and stop performing like a weak team, while as far as we see Chelsea losing the games against many weak teams and even for any team that's easy to score a goal against Chelsea and beat them while if you check the last games they had Chelsea had problems with forward and scoring goals.
The problems facing Chelsea at the moment are comprehensive, besides they are very difficult to score goals they are also experiencing problems in their midfield. Different from last season, now Chelsea lack creative midfielders who can flow the ball mature for the players on the front lines. The flow of the ball between them also didn't go perfectly, and that's what allowed the opponent to take advantage if they made a mistake.

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March 05, 2023, 03:30:48 PM
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Indeed, PSG can also win without Neymar, in the previous match, they played with a 4-4-2 formation and deliberately backed down to accept the defense to take advantage of the space behind Bayern Munich's high defense, they were wrong to use that tactic. I think they need to push the lineup like they did at the end of the game and this time start with a 4-3-3 to look for a goal as soon as the game starts and their defense needs to be more cohesive, not messy, disorderly as recently. Perhaps they must do so to expect a victory over the mighty and comprehensive Bayern Munich.


I think they have to play a little aggressively if they want to win this second leg, as well as the strategy they have to implement as well as possible, because this match is important for them, they need a little extra strategic encouragement especially when they face Bayern Munich who have been very good so far. competition, as well as Bayern Munich they have to be observant / thorough in the second leg, will determine who will qualify for the next round, I think Bayern Munich themselves have prepared very well.

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March 05, 2023, 03:38:59 PM
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Indeed, PSG can also win without Neymar, in the previous match, they played with a 4-4-2 formation and deliberately backed down to accept the defense to take advantage of the space behind Bayern Munich's high defense, they were wrong to use that tactic. I think they need to push the lineup like they did at the end of the game and this time start with a 4-3-3 to look for a goal as soon as the game starts and their defense needs to be more cohesive, not messy, disorderly as recently. Perhaps they must do so to expect a victory over the mighty and comprehensive Bayern Munich.


I think they have to play a little aggressively if they want to win this second leg, as well as the strategy they have to implement as well as possible, because this match is important for them, they need a little extra strategic encouragement especially when they face Bayern Munich who have been very good so far. competition, as well as Bayern Munich they have to be observant / thorough in the second leg, will determine who will qualify for the next round, I think Bayern Munich themselves have prepared very well.
I haven't seen any outstanding performances from PSG in the Champions League so far. The team is the best ever for League One. After adding Lionel Messi to the team, I did not notice any extraordinary performance.

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March 05, 2023, 05:04:58 PM
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Indeed, PSG can also win without Neymar, in the previous match, they played with a 4-4-2 formation and deliberately backed down to accept the defense to take advantage of the space behind Bayern Munich's high defense, they were wrong to use that tactic. I think they need to push the lineup like they did at the end of the game and this time start with a 4-3-3 to look for a goal as soon as the game starts and their defense needs to be more cohesive, not messy, disorderly as recently. Perhaps they must do so to expect a victory over the mighty and comprehensive Bayern Munich.


I think they have to play a little aggressively if they want to win this second leg, as well as the strategy they have to implement as well as possible, because this match is important for them, they need a little extra strategic encouragement especially when they face Bayern Munich who have been very good so far. competition, as well as Bayern Munich they have to be observant / thorough in the second leg, will determine who will qualify for the next round, I think Bayern Munich themselves have prepared very well.
And keep in mind the team they will face is Bayern Munich where they are one of the candidates to become champions. They must be able to implement the best possible strategy, they must minimize mistakes that will benefit the opposing team. Bayern Munich is a team that can attack at any time, they have a good team balance from their back line, midfield to their front line.

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March 05, 2023, 05:16:02 PM
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City's chance to overthrow Leipzig in the second leg is quite big, because in terms of quality, Leipzig is below City. but, what's interesting is the Chelsea vs Dortmund match. because after all, it was not an easy match for Dortmund to move on to the next round phase, even though Dortmund only needed a draw in the match against Chelsea. because, Chelsea will not let Dortmund easily topple them.

At least, this match will present a very interesting match because Chelsea will go all out to win the match over Dortmund. I'm sure Edin Terzic is well aware of that. most likely, Dortmund will play more defensively in the match later. In essence, Chelsea still has a chance to move on to the next phase. because of that, I'm sure this match will present a fierce battle with high game tension even though Chelsea is in a messy performance.
City should have basically made it guaranteed like Real did even in the first game if you ask me. In any case, we are going to end up watching a good football once again by City, they have amazing players and a great chemistry. We haven't seen Haaland being as dominant as he was at the start of the season and score some insane goals, not just amount of goals but the way he scores, I am suspecting that this could be one of those.

Because he both has a good team with him, but also plays against a club that he played so many times before when he was in Bundesliga as well so he should be aware of the strengths and weaknesses of Leipzig and help his team as well.
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Oh my, my! We'll have to agree to disagree on Manchester City's performance against Leipzig. While I agree that they created some good chances and played well, their inability to convert them into goals left me in a state of perpetual perplexity. However, I do agree that Leipzig won't stand a chance in the second leg at the Etihad. Nonetheless, let us not dismiss Leipzig altogether, for they have a remarkable domestic league record and have proven their mettle at the highest level.

And as for LIV vs. RM, it's like trying to compare apples to oranges. Liverpool may have a strong team this season, but Real Madrid is currently on fire. And as a real Real fan, I believe that LIV can not make any comeback

It seems to me that in the return game, Leipzig will first again play completely closed football (teams that play ball control always have problems against this tactic) and then, depending on their success (whether they concede a goal or not), they will either press like in the first game, or endure until the end of regular time. It seems to me that if City don't score a lucky goal at the beginning of the game, then there is a high probability that we will see 0-0 in regular time. Everyone underestimates Leipzig, even the defeat against Dortmund only emphasized that they are very strong.

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March 05, 2023, 07:00:23 PM
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Manchester City were really surprising against Leipzig in the first leg. Their performance in the second half especially was really unsatisfying and that was why they got a draw there. But in Etihad I don't think Leipzig will be able to stand much chance against them. I don't expect to watch the same Manchester City this time. Guardiola would warn his players about their mistakes in the previous match and we would see them showing a solid performance this time.

Leipzig aren't a big obstacle for them. The real challenge would be against Real Madrid for example. We all must be remembering that legendary draw last season.
Oh my, my! We'll have to agree to disagree on Manchester City's performance against Leipzig. While I agree that they created some good chances and played well, their inability to convert them into goals left me in a state of perpetual perplexity. However, I do agree that Leipzig won't stand a chance in the second leg at the Etihad. Nonetheless, let us not dismiss Leipzig altogether, for they have a remarkable domestic league record and have proven their mettle at the highest level.

And as for LIV vs. RM, it's like trying to compare apples to oranges. Liverpool may have a strong team this season, but Real Madrid is currently on fire. And as a real Real fan, I believe that LIV can not make any comeback

You are right that Real Madrid is on fire in the Champions League, but so much focus is hindering their work in the Spanish League with a gap of 10 points between them and Barça (although they have played one match less), and they also conceded the game in the first leg of the Copa del Rey semifinals, again, against FC Barcelona.

I hope them good luck in the Champions this year: otherwise, they can end the season with just the Club World Cup in their palmares.

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March 05, 2023, 07:14:24 PM
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I haven't seen any outstanding performances from PSG in the Champions League so far. The team is the best ever for League One. After adding Lionel Messi to the team, I did not notice any extraordinary performance.
Well i don't think anyone can outrightly say you are wrong in what you say, quite a lot of people, especially PSG fans expected more from the trio of Messi, Neymar and Mbappe, but they are currently not delivering the trophy that PSG fans want, which happens to be the CL. When they were eliminated by Real Madrid last season in the RO16, so many of their fans turned against them and started booing some players during their subsequent Ligue 1 matches, all of these was done to air their displeasure at that elimination.

PSG players will have that at the back of their minds coming into this second leg game against Bayern Munich, they cannot disappoint their fans twice in a row at exactly the same stage of the competition, but the reality is that they are staring elimination in the face, they are already losing, and they are going to the home of the German champions, which isn't an easy ground to win it, i think Bayern Munich are going to progress to the QF.



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March 05, 2023, 07:28:12 PM
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And as for LIV vs. RM, it's like trying to compare apples to oranges. Liverpool may have a strong team this season, but Real Madrid is currently on fire. And as a real Real fan, I believe that LIV can not make any comeback
In the Premier League match tonight, Liverpool showed extraordinary performance. And they won the game with a score of 7-0. But can they do the same when dealing with Real Madrid. This is what many Liverpool fans are hoping for right now. But I'm sure Liverpool will find it difficult to qualify for the last 8 even if they win the game.

On record, Liverpool have always failed to qualify for the next round when dealing with Real Madrid. In the last few matches between Real Madrid vs Liverpool, only in 2009 Liverpool could beat Real Madrid in the first and second legs.

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