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November 21, 2023, 04:45:01 PM |
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What a robbery for Italy vs Ukraine.
Was a clear penalty IMHO. What do you think
I agree with you on that. It was a clear penalty for Ukraine there. Because as far as I can see there is a contact with Mudryk's foot. I don't know how they still continue to make mistakes in the presence of VAR technology. If they examined the incident in detail they were going to realize that the final decision should have been the opposite. Maybe Ukraine could have eliminated Italy there but a bad decision brought their end instead. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) I can't say Italy were great in terms of performance here but I must admit that Chiesa and Donnarumma were really impressive. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.postimg.cc%2FRFnhttLK%2Fvtrbtdb644b.png&t=665&c=VDwk1VCfnDQ8gA) Yeah it's penalty. That's clean. The referee was blind. The referee is clear having an agenda to rob ukraine from beating italy to be qualified for euro 2024. I will not believe if there was no agenda owned by UEFA as said but aleksander ceferin on his statement called a disaster if italy won't qualify for the euro 2024. Ukrainee deserves a penalty. Mudryk has been doing so much for his club. As an Italian I am ashamed to have witnessed a qualification spoiled by a missed penalty, I understand that for Italy to miss this European Championship would have been a drama and a disaster, but obtaining the pass like this is truly disappointing, unfortunately the rule applies that if the referee doesn't blow the whistle, it's not a foul and furthermore we don't know if the penalty would actually have been scored by the Ukrainian. I hope that the Italian football league gives a breath of improvement for this national team because we are really losing a lot of ground compared to other nations
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November 21, 2023, 04:47:32 PM |
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Lukaku is underrated when he plays in the international competition. I don't know why people keep call him lakaka despite his performance that is not that bad overall. Im thinking about he shall get another chance.
This is why i don't even mocking him like what others did. Lukaku is underrated striker. This guy is still having potential even though he is not young anymore.
he was scoring a lot against zerbaijan.
It is clear that those who called him lakaka are not very smart people and that's putting it mildly. Lukaku has always been a great forward, he scores a lot, he is dimensional and at the same time incredibly technical for his size and can score from almost any position and with his feet and head and on the point of attack Lukaku is deadly. All his problems were related to his character, judging by the description in the press, he is a very interesting person, speaks several foreign languages, he is not seen in scandals in nightclubs before the game. In general Lukaku is a Catholic, who does not touch alcohol and apparently quite difficult to relate to criticism in his address and is often offended by it, but those who can find an approach to him, such as Jose Mourinho, Lukaku opens up fully, scores a lot and often. The problem is sometimes I feel like he is overrated and the other times I feel like he is underrated. But to be honest, I think he does not deliver the performance that is expected from him. At least a lot of times that has happened. To be honest I actually also agree with you that he is also someone who needs to be treated properly to get the best performance out of him. There is no doubt that he is a good player. But if the situation is a little hostile, he is definitely going to find it difficult to perform at his best.
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November 21, 2023, 04:49:01 PM |
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Finally Italy success qualified to UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany after getting one points against Ukraine although on Group C qualifier current standing have the same points but Italy manage head to head and goals difference than Ukraine. Its most crucial for the winner of UEFA Euro 2020 Italy have on bad position in qualifier round but unfortunately success get on place for qualifying to Euro 2024. So far the national teams have been qualified to Euro 2024 and still have fewest group still one match left. - Germany as host
- Spain
- Scotland
- France
- England
- Italy
- Turkey
- Albania
- Czechia
- Belgium
- Austria
- Hungary
- Serbia
- Denmark
- Slovenia
- Romania
- Switzerland
- Portugal
- Slovakia
If miss national teams who have settle placed in Euro 2024 you can pick it below in my postQuite a slippery result for Italy (one goal could have buried them) and I don’t think the national team’s fans are happy with Spalletti’s performance. In fact, all the teams that qualified are known except for Group D, where Wales has a theoretical chance to overtake Croatia, but for this, Wales must beat Turkey, and Croatia cannot beat Armenia at home. I would give no more than 5% for such an event.
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November 21, 2023, 07:15:00 PM |
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There is one spot in EURO yet to be taken through qualifiers. But Wales is in realy difficult situation - they not only need to win against Turkey, but also that Croatia would lose to Armenia, what isn't likely to happen. In other game, big question how many goals Netherlands will score against Gibraltar. Probably not 14 like France did ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . So, I go with over 5.5 @2.10. And I also pick France ML vs Greece @1.66. Interesting thing, San Marino scored a goal in the 3rd match in a row!
Wow, it's probably first time when they scored 3 games in a row. Who knows, maybe one day soon they will win their first officila game ever ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) What bothers me though is that they didn't even check VAR. OK, the referee is close, he's got a good view, but it's a moment of huge significance - at least go and see - make sure you've made the right call.
I'm not 100% sure about VAR protocol, but I think that fact that game wasn't stopped, it doesn't mean that VAR didn't checked that moment. Maybe they watched it once or twice and gave signal to main referee that there is no need to make moredetailed review and stop the game.
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November 21, 2023, 07:19:59 PM |
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I think Italy were very lucky not to lose to Ukraine in yesterday's game... Italy was lucky in the game against North Macedonia, although they managed to score five goals... But the 0-0 game against Ukraine was very risky...
I feel like Italy's inconsistent playing will hurt them a lot, that's not really acceptable level for them and it should be considered one of the worst situations for them. They could have won 5-0 against Ukraine too, or they could have lost, that's the weird thing, before the game both was possible, normally if a team is good they are good, like if France played Ukraine I would say it would be a huge huge huge shock if Ukraine managed to win, whereas when it's Italy that is playing against them, I am not shocked at the possibility of a dominating win, or a humiliating loss by them, both are possible. That should not be possible, if a team is good they are good, they can't be both good and bad at the same time but Italy could be.
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November 21, 2023, 07:24:37 PM |
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Tonight are the last matches of the EURO 2024 qualifiers. I will watch the Wales-Türkiye match. Will Turkey or Croatia be the group leader? It will be clear tonight. If Turkey draw with Wales, it will be the group on the top for the first time.
Wales's starting XI against Türkiye: Ward, Roberts, Rodon, Lockyer, Davies, Williams, Ampadu, James, Wilson, Broadhead, Johnson.
Türkiye's starting XI against Wales : Uğurcan, Ferdi, Samet, Abdülkerim, Cenk Özkacar, Salih Özcan, İsmail Yüksek, Abdülkadir, Yusuf Sarı, Kerem Aktürkoğlu, Barış Alper Yılmaz.
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November 21, 2023, 08:09:11 PM |
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But Wales is in realy difficult situation - they not only need to win against Turkey, but also that Croatia would lose to Armenia, what isn't likely to
Not really. For Wales to secure 2nd position they need to win against Turkey and for Croatia not to beat Armenia so their chances are better than you thought. By the way, Wales already has 1:0, while Croatia vs Armenia is still 0:0. We are dominating as Armenia basically parked the bus but it won't be an easy game for us.
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November 21, 2023, 08:24:03 PM |
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Today, if I am not mistaken, the last matches of the groups will be played and the group stage will be completed. Our representative Turkey is currently 1-0 down against Wales but I don't expect them to lose this match. If the matches are completed with these results, I think Wales will leave the group instead of Croatia. Croatia, on the other hand, has not been able to find a goal yet despite playing a dominant game against Armenia. If the first half ends with these results, it will make the teams more stressed in the second half and force them to make more mistakes.
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November 21, 2023, 08:36:06 PM |
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Today, if I am not mistaken, the last matches of the groups will be played and the group stage will be completed. Our representative Turkey is currently 1-0 down against Wales but I don't expect them to lose this match. If the matches are completed with these results, I think Wales will leave the group instead of Croatia. Croatia, on the other hand, has not been able to find a goal yet despite playing a dominant game against Armenia. If the first half ends with these results, it will make the teams more stressed in the second half and force them to make more mistakes.
It is looking good for Croatia now as they are leading themselves and this means they could still overtake Turkey since they won the first and second leg combined against them. But I think Turkey will try to prevent that from happening because it can have consequences for the next round I think. Normally I believe Turkey should be able to beat Wales, but Wals is hanging in as they are still hoping for a wonder to happen and Croatia not to win the game, but I doubt it.
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November 21, 2023, 08:44:19 PM |
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Today, if I am not mistaken, the last matches of the groups will be played and the group stage will be completed. Our representative Turkey is currently 1-0 down against Wales but I don't expect them to lose this match. If the matches are completed with these results, I think Wales will leave the group instead of Croatia. Croatia, on the other hand, has not been able to find a goal yet despite playing a dominant game against Armenia. If the first half ends with these results, it will make the teams more stressed in the second half and force them to make more mistakes.
Croatia will win the match against Armenia. They really dominate the whole first half and Armenia can't do anything. About Wales and Turkey I am not sure that Turkey will win. The statistics of the first half shows the superiority of Wales. Everyone needs only a win here.
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November 21, 2023, 08:49:56 PM |
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Greece vs France
After beating Gibraltar 14 goals to nil, one would think that Greece would be their next prey tonight but thats not the case here, as France was only lucky to get only but 1 goal past Greece in the first half of this match. Though without skipper kylian Mbappe upfront but they still look deadly in front with Kolomuani, Usman Dembele and Antoine Griezman keeping the Greek defence busy all through the first half.
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November 21, 2023, 08:52:21 PM |
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Today, if I am not mistaken, the last matches of the groups will be played and the group stage will be completed. Our representative Turkey is currently 1-0 down against Wales but I don't expect them to lose this match. If the matches are completed with these results, I think Wales will leave the group instead of Croatia. Croatia, on the other hand, has not been able to find a goal yet despite playing a dominant game against Armenia. If the first half ends with these results, it will make the teams more stressed in the second half and force them to make more mistakes.
It is looking good for Croatia now as they are leading themselves and this means they could still overtake Turkey since they won the first and second leg combined against them. But I think Turkey will try to prevent that from happening because it can have consequences for the next round I think. Normally I believe Turkey should be able to beat Wales, but Wals is hanging in as they are still hoping for a wonder to happen and Croatia not to win the game, but I doubt it. According to the current results, Turkey will finish 2nd and Croatia will finish as the group leader, but I doubt that Turkey will give up the lead. They will want to increase the pressure in the second half and at least a draw here will guarantee them to leave the group as leaders. Turkey is not playing badly at the moment but I think we will see a different game setup in the second half. Croatia managed to take the psychological advantage by taking the lead before the end of the first half. Turkey had 2 substitutions before the end of the first half and I expect these players to contribute more in the second half and try to concentrate more on the offensive line.
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It is looking good for Croatia now as they are leading themselves and this means they could still overtake Turkey since they won the first and second leg combined against them. But I think Turkey will try to prevent that from happening because it can have consequences for the next round I think. I am not so sure that its in Turkey's interest to beat Wales tonight (or draw) because in that case they will end up in 2nd pot which is objectively weaker than 3rd pot where they are now if situation in both of these games remain the same. Therefore, I am rooting for Turkey get at least draw tonight so we end up in the 3rd pot. Croatia will win the match against Armenia. They really dominate the whole first half and Armenia can't do anything.
Its true that we dominated, but few minutes before Budimir finally scored Armenia had the best chance in the game and could have easily scored if their attacker had a little bit more composure. We need at least one more goal as soon as possible and then I may feel a little bit calmer.
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Greece vs France
After beating Gibraltar 14 goals to nil, one would think that Greece would be their next prey tonight but thats not the case here, as France was only lucky to get only but 1 goal past Greece in the first half of this match. Though without skipper kylian Mbappe upfront but they still look deadly in front with Kolomuani, Usman Dembele and Antoine Griezman keeping the Greek defence busy all through the first half.
Yeah, we are not surprised because France is a candidate to win in every tournament, they have a complete squad in all areas and Greece was not an equal opponent, currently the score is 1-1 but yeah maybe France will end the match with one more goal. I also noticed that Wales were leading by 1 goal for a while they need a win to guarantee a place in the next stage, but it's not over yet, Türkiye can do something before the match ends especially now that they are dominating the match so it is very possible for the two teams to draw. Edit: Türkiye actually equalized the score in the 70th minute meaning Wales have to go through the play offs to get a place there, based on the schedule Finland is their next opponent clearly this is a challenge for Wales because Finland has been playing well recently, I think Finland's chances are bigger than Wales but yeah, let's see who is the luckiest.
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Today, if I am not mistaken, the last matches of the groups will be played and the group stage will be completed. Our representative Turkey is currently 1-0 down against Wales but I don't expect them to lose this match. If the matches are completed with these results, I think Wales will leave the group instead of Croatia. Croatia, on the other hand, has not been able to find a goal yet despite playing a dominant game against Armenia. If the first half ends with these results, it will make the teams more stressed in the second half and force them to make more mistakes.
Croatia will win the match against Armenia. They really dominate the whole first half and Armenia can't do anything. About Wales and Turkey I am not sure that Turkey will win. The statistics of the first half shows the superiority of Wales. Everyone needs only a win here. We can't expect any surprises in this match that Croatia is not playing at home. They will most probably win and they already led at half time. Besides that, we can see that they are playing in a dominant way and trying to score goals. As for Turkey, 1 point from here will be enough to be the leader. It's a tough away and they played very well when they beat Germany in a friendly 3 days ago. Here they will want to score a goal in the second half and at worst draw the match. If Wales wanted to get out of the group, they had to avoid losing points against Armenia. Their loss of points helped Croatia.
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November 21, 2023, 09:30:42 PM |
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Greece vs France
After beating Gibraltar 14 goals to nil, one would think that Greece would be their next prey tonight but thats not the case here, as France was only lucky to get only but 1 goal past Greece in the first half of this match. Though without skipper kylian Mbappe upfront but they still look deadly in front with Kolomuani, Usman Dembele and Antoine Griezman keeping the Greek defence busy all through the first half.
Yeah, we are not surprised because France is a candidate to win in every tournament, they have a complete squad in all areas and Greece was not an equal opponent, currently the score is 1-1 but yeah maybe France will end the match with one more goal. I also noticed that Wales were leading by 1 goal for a while they need a win to guarantee a place in the next stage, but it's not over yet, Türkiye can do something before the match ends. Ordinarily you would expect from dominate from the first minute of the game to the very end but it seems the Greeks came prepared to show the world cup runner up that they (the Greeks) can pull some stunts in this match as the score line may not be what you all expected tonight. Talking Wales and Turkey I think it's not over yet because you can't write off the Turks until the referee says it's over, they can come back even in the last minute of the game.
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Wales-Türkiye game is currently 1-1, if it ends like this we will finish as leaders. We will qualify from the 2nd bag, let's see which countries we will be paired with.
Greece-France drew 2-2, this result means nothing for France. They finished top of the group.
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Not really. For Wales to secure 2nd position they need to win against Turkey and for Croatia not to beat Armenia so their chances are better than you thought.
By the way, Wales already has 1:0, while Croatia vs Armenia is still 0:0. We are dominating as Armenia basically parked the bus but it won't be an easy game for us.
My bad, posted out of my memory without actually looking at the table. Anyway, none part of Wales plan didn't worked. They didn't managed to beat Turkey and game ended 1:1 and they didn't got positive result from Croatia. There is still 4 open spots in EURO and it will be taken through Nation League playoffs in March.
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November 21, 2023, 09:47:52 PM |
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Wow Greece really surpassed expectations by leading France to a tie. Both teams played well but it's surely a surprise for Greece to not lose to a so far unbeaten France. Sadly this doesn't mean much for Greece, the country was bound to finish third in the group and therefore be lead to play-offs for a potential qualification. Who knows, Greece showing some strength now would probably boost confidence in the playoffs. But it's not going to be particularly easy.
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If Wales wanted to get out of the group, they had to avoid losing points against Armenia. Their loss of points helped Croatia.
Croatia head to another competition with the victory over Armenia to join Turkey who did not allow Wales have the victory. I think Wales scored too early and did not have what it takes to defend the goal because Turkey consistently maintained the pressure on the wales defense that it led to a penalty. Sad day for Wales, they were close, and that is all they can have from history. Gilbratar who suffered a massive 14 goal loss against France suffer a big defeat also against Netherlands who scored an early goal, and almost a goal every other ten minutes of that game.
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