⚽⚽⚽ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk World Cup 2022 - discussion ⚽⚽⚽

[buwaytress]

First bore draw of the tournament, didn't watch the game so can't say if it was a different affair on the pitch, anyone lost money on that trap? Argentina won me this nice acca, but I lost much, much more I can't bear to admit adding them to another acca (odds at the time were over 12/10 so I thought it was a nice 20% boost to winnings). Serves me right.

Edit: AGAIN offside goal, come on..!

Done sneaking my watching of the game, Saudi can't keep doing offside trap like this, should still be a comfortable 3-0... hate not being able to watch properly =)

They did it successfully at the end of the day, didn't they ? I'm very much disappointed that Argentina fell for every single one of them despite how experienced and exposed they are, they looked so primitive a team being caught in those margins, and it should easily have been avoided! I'm livid rn!

They sure did... And yes they played well in the first half in general, but they really fell for every offside trap, too easily, all the time, I'm with you here, disappointed they weren't more wise in that way. Teams usually defend deep against them, Saudi went brave and high line, and did it so well. Don't think I saw so many offsides in one half since watching Pippo Inzaghi 20 years ago...

[Trofo]

First bore draw of the tournament, didn't watch the game so can't say if it was a different affair on the pitch, anyone lost money on that trap? Argentina won me this nice acca, but I lost much, much more I can't bear to admit adding them to another acca (odds at the time were over 12/10 so I thought it was a nice 20% boost to winnings). Serves me right.

It did not seem like a bore draw from glimpses I managed to steal while working. This was first bad day in the WC for me, lost all my tickets on Argentina and then one that survived on Denmark. Both results came as a big shock to me and I thought these were maybe the best pairs to bet on in the whole match day. But since I have a nice bank from couple of consecutive wins i doubled down and place an enormous recovery bet, we shall see how it goes. Let's just say I need Poland to not loose and then some snooker to make it more lucrative.

[darxiaomi]

After seeing this last matches, can we agree all the player who plays in Europe are having trouble?, i see them very slow or out of pace. Seems like the high ammount of minutes its killing them.

Argentina its missing so much Gio Lo Celso in the midfield.

How many bets and brackets destroy this result?

[slackovic]

After seeing this last matches, can we agree all the player who plays in Europe are having trouble?, i see them very slow or out of pace. Seems like the high ammount of minutes its killing them.

Argentina its missing so much Gio Lo Celso in the midfield.

How many bets and brackets destroy this result?

I agree. I guess that so many games in their national leagues and European leagues is killing them. I can only imagine how tired they must feel and now they have to play a game every few days. The timing of this World Cup totally messed everything up.

[famososMuertos]

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How many bets and brackets destroy this result?

For now... just like an ellipsis, the second game will define that question 100%. The best Argentina can ask for is a tie between Mexico and Poland. Or what we can all ask for, even Argentines...

If you allow me this may be a good question(quiz):



Q:Player of the Match...x

Maybe, Heem! to put a little more variance and not to repeat a 32:1  

^{Edit:
Mohammed officially left without a photo...}

[Harkorede]

First bore draw of the tournament, didn't watch the game so can't say if it was a different affair on the pitch, anyone lost money on that trap? Argentina won me this nice acca, but I lost much, much more I can't bear to admit adding them to another acca (odds at the time were over 12/10 so I thought it was a nice 20% boost to winnings). Serves me right.

Edit: AGAIN offside goal, come on..!

Done sneaking my watching of the game, Saudi can't keep doing offside trap like this, should still be a comfortable 3-0... hate not being able to watch properly =)

They did it successfully at the end of the day, didn't they ? I'm very much disappointed that Argentina fell for every single one of them despite how experienced and exposed they are, they looked so primitive a team being caught in those margins, and it should easily have been avoided! I'm livid rn!

They sure did... And yes they played well in the first half in general, but they really fell for every offside trap, too easily, all the time, I'm with you here, disappointed they weren't more wise in that way. Teams usually defend deep against them, Saudi went brave and high line, and did it so well. Don't think I saw so many offsides in one half since watching Pippo Inzaghi 20 years ago...

Nice one man! Good hit! It's one of those days that it pays off to chase the bigger odds, but Argentina ML would have felt like the safest option, so I feel your pain with the other bet you had to lose, but you didn't have anything on Saudi Arabia ML @ 29 Odds, did you ?

I think we might be up for another boring goalless draw, between Poland and Mexico, Mexico have been the better side overall, but I don't think they find the breakthrough goal, and goalless draw would be in the best interest of Messi and Argentina too right ?

EDIT: Just after my post Poland seemed to have earned themselves a penalty, VAR to decide!
Yes, it was a penalty but then Ochoa denied Lewandowski from the penalty spot, Ochoa goes all missing from all possible club side football news, but shows up at the world becomes a national hero, yet again.

[Trofo]

After seeing this last matches, can we agree all the player who plays in Europe are having trouble?, i see them very slow or out of pace. Seems like the high ammount of minutes its killing them.

Argentina its missing so much Gio Lo Celso in the midfield.

How many bets and brackets destroy this result?

I agree. I guess that so many games in their national leagues and European leagues is killing them. I can only imagine how tired they must feel and now they have to play a game every few days. The timing of this World Cup totally messed everything up.

I don't agree with this at all. All top leagues aren't even to the half way mark, meaning players should be way more ready and less tired for this WC then in usual time after whole season has ended. Problems will come in few months time when leagues plus euro cups will be in full swing and players that played in Qatar start feeling that extra fatigue and muscle injuries become even more frequent.

[slackovic]

After seeing this last matches, can we agree all the player who plays in Europe are having trouble?, i see them very slow or out of pace. Seems like the high ammount of minutes its killing them.

Argentina its missing so much Gio Lo Celso in the midfield.

How many bets and brackets destroy this result?

I agree. I guess that so many games in their national leagues and European leagues is killing them. I can only imagine how tired they must feel and now they have to play a game every few days. The timing of this World Cup totally messed everything up.

I don't agree with this at all. All top leagues aren't even to the half way mark, meaning players should be way more ready and less tired for this WC then in usual time after whole season has ended. Problems will come in few months time when leagues plus euro cups will be in full swing and players that played in Qatar start feeling that extra fatigue and muscle injuries become even more frequent.

But the schedule was more dense before the World Cup so that european competitions could end the group stage in time before the World Cup starts. That's why I was saying that the players could be more tried than if the World Cup was held in June. Besides, when the World Cup was held in June, most teams were left to play only their national leagues because most of the got kicked out of their national cupgames and european competitions. Besides, all national teams had one week of preparation for the World Cup. If it was held in June, they would have more time to prepare.

[Trofo]

But the schedule was more dense before the World Cup so that european competitions could end the group stage in time before the World Cup starts. That's why I was saying that the players could be more tried than if the World Cup was held in June. Besides, when the World Cup was held in June, most teams were left to play only their national leagues because most of the got kicked out of their national cupgames and european competitions. Besides, all national teams had one week of preparation for the World Cup. If it was held in June, they would have more time to prepare.

Schedule wasn't any more condensed than usual, there isn't space in modern football for further congestion. Only difference is that leagues started on average 2 weeks earlier than usual.

I give you the point for preparation. This is definitely the shortest amount of time national teams ever had before big competitions. But that should not be seen on player fitness levels, more on some tactical mechanics that could be missing.

On the other hand you have Qatar that had their whole national team together for 5 months and were by far the worst team that played so far.

[slackovic]

But the schedule was more dense before the World Cup so that european competitions could end the group stage in time before the World Cup starts. That's why I was saying that the players could be more tried than if the World Cup was held in June. Besides, when the World Cup was held in June, most teams were left to play only their national leagues because most of the got kicked out of their national cupgames and european competitions. Besides, all national teams had one week of preparation for the World Cup. If it was held in June, they would have more time to prepare.

Schedule wasn't any more condensed than usual, there isn't space in modern football for further congestion. Only difference is that leagues started on average 2 weeks earlier than usual.

I give you the point for preparation. This is definitely the shortest amount of time national teams ever had before big competitions. But that should not be seen on player fitness levels, more on some tactical mechanics that could be missing.

On the other hand you have Qatar that had their whole national team together for 5 months and were by far the worst team that played so far.

Ah, maybe that's why UCL group stage was over a month before it usually does. Because it started before than usual.

As for Qatar national team, they could have had them together for years and everything would probably be the same because they simply lack the quality to play in the World Cup level. They are the real proof that money can't buy everything.

[casperBGD]

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On the other hand you have Qatar that had their whole national team together for 5 months and were by far the worst team that played so far.

after 5 months together, it is expected for them to not talk in-between

nevertheless, seems that after Argentina defeat, all teams are scared, and play defensively, so no goals today after first surprise
will France shook that, or they will be goalless as well?

looking at Poland, expected more from them, especially from Lewa to score from penalty spot, but what a heck, will Argentina repeat last WC debacle?

[cryptofrka]

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If you allow me this may be a good question(quiz):
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Q:Player of the Match...x
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Hey man, agreed! We will shuffle the questions, but we need to make sure that in questions like these we're using provable data - so we wanted to see what info we can get from the official site and we could not put something like this for round 1.
We're still finding our feet here, and we'll test to see what you like and don't like. Hope you're having fun so far.

I think the quiz is already a success guys, I'm now watching and hoping for outcomes based on it... right now Lautaro's cancelled goal, man I still can't get used to VAR. Was already counting my bets (and the point from the quiz about him getting assist/goal) and then ref makes us wait again.

This is great to hear, the whole idea was to make people watch the games with a bit more interest.

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So far the unexpected leader is slackovic, the only one with all 5 correct predictions.

The next round of questions will be sent out some time during tomorrow, the games for round 2 start on Friday so we want to give you plenty of time. Still, we might want to wait for a few more results to come in so it will probably be in the evening.

[slackovic]

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So far the unexpected leader is slackovic, the only one with all 5 correct predictions.

The next round of questions will be sent out some time during tomorrow, the games for round 2 start on Friday so we want to give you plenty of time. Still, we might want to wait for a few more results to come in so it will probably be in the evening.

Wohooo! Lucky me! I told you that I must have beginner's luck because I chose some answers based on absolutely nothing. Well, I need one more thing. I need Croatia to win tomorrow so that I win the bet too

[notblox1]

First bore draw of the tournament, didn't watch the game so can't say if it was a different affair on the pitch, anyone lost money on that trap? Argentina won me this nice acca, but I lost much, much more I can't bear to admit adding them to another acca (odds at the time were over 12/10 so I thought it was a nice 20% boost to winnings). Serves me right.

Two bored draws for today in world cup, but France was amazing against Australia and saved the day, this is making my predictions better for them being world champions.
I was really surprised with Argentina losing against Saudi Arabia, my bet was on them winning first half like they did, but second half was nightmare for them.
Who would guess that Saudi Arabia will be first in Group C after first round?  

The next round of questions will be sent out some time during tomorrow, the games for round 2 start on Friday so we want to give you plenty of time. Still, we might want to wait for a few more results to come in so it will probably be in the evening.

Please ping us or write our names when you send questions.
I am busy this days and I trying to fit everything in 24 hours is not an easy task.

[LTU_btc]

We're still finding our feet here, and we'll test to see what you like and don't like. Hope you're having fun so far.

It's fun so far indeed. I'm not sure how it would work for league with 38 rounds, maybe I would become bored evntually, but short tournament like World Cup it's perfect. I have 3/5 correct predictions so far, so I guess it's not great, not terrible.

On the other hand you have Qatar that had their whole national team together for 5 months and were by far the worst team that played so far.

Today commentators said that Saudi Arabia stopped their league somewhere in September, they had lot of time to prepare. And as we saw, it helped for them. I guess that African and Asian federations had more freedom with their leagues than Europe, when to stop it and start preparation for World Cup.

[ralle14]

So many unexpected results earlier and I went 0-2 on my bets but I'm glad that my predictions are looking solid though gained 2/3 points for the day and all four of us in the group went for Mbappe.  

Also, for the fastest goal question Australia(9min) is currently in the lead and then Argentina(10min).

[Strongkored]

Today commentators said that Saudi Arabia stopped their league somewhere in September, they had lot of time to prepare. And as we saw, it helped for them. I guess that African and Asian federations had more freedom with their leagues than Europe, when to stop it and start preparation for World Cup.

The reason may be because the football competition especially in Asia is not as tight as Europe so stopping the League at any time is not too much of a problem and not only such things can be found in Asia but also the establishment of national holidays which can be done only for such reasons examples of Arab Kings who declared a national holiday because the national team beat Argentina I don't think that will happen in Europe or America
https://www.msn.com/en-in/sports/fifa-world-cup/fifa-world-cup-2022-saudi-king-salman-declares-holiday-after-stunning-win-over-argentina/ar-AA14rpmk

So many unexpected results earlier and I went 0-2 on my bets but I'm glad that my predictions are looking solid though gained 2/3 points for the day and all four of us in the group went for Mbappe.  

Also, for the fastest goal question Australia(9min) is currently in the lead and then Argentina(10min).

From group F you are the member who has the most correct answers so far with 4 correct answers and the other three members have 3 correct answers, there are still 5 answers left for which we are waiting for the results and there are two days for us see the result

[Igebotz]

But the schedule was more dense before the World Cup so that european competitions could end the group stage in time before the World Cup starts. That's why I was saying that the players could be more tried than if the World Cup was held in June. Besides, when the World Cup was held in June, most teams were left to play only their national leagues because most of the got kicked out of their national cupgames and european competitions. Besides, all national teams had one week of preparation for the World Cup. If it was held in June, they would have more time to prepare.

Schedule wasn't any more condensed than usual, there isn't space in modern football for further congestion. Only difference is that leagues started on average 2 weeks earlier than usual.

I give you the point for preparation. This is definitely the shortest amount of time national teams ever had before big competitions. But that should not be seen on player fitness levels, more on some tactical mechanics that could be missing.

On the other hand you have Qatar that had their whole national team together for 5 months and were by far the worst team that played so far.

It is difficult to put together a team in just two weeks from some of the national team with new coaches and some new players coming in to play for the national team for the first time, and this affects African countries the most because 4- 5 new players are always coming into the team for tournaments like this, and sometimes new coaches as well. If it wasn't for the fact that Covid19 messed up the entire world for one year, we wouldn't be having this conversation and tournaments in the middle of the season. Most European teams have it easier because most of the players have been playing together under the same coach for a long time, unlike American and African teams, where new players are integrated into the team at every international game

Qatar was never a football nation and  fixing in more African migrants into the team wont help them either, i noticed that's what they did.

4/5 correct answers so far  buwaytress must be proud

[slaman29]

In discussions back here in Asia, a lot of bookies lost money apparently, (underground bookies since we all don't have legal sportsbetting lol) because a lot of Saudi supporters bet big money and I guess odds were over 20x. We already have some local gangsters also spraying shop walls with paint (it's typical to mean a warning to pay up).

Meanwhile, I paid very badly as a supporter of Argentina. Spain better not let me down...



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I have a question. If the correct answer is not in anyone's quiz answer, will the next closest answer win points? For example Australia now has fastest goal but nobody picked them. Is England and Argentina answer considered correct if nobody else scores earlier than 10'?

Anyway I took inspiration from the winning combibet above, and made a new one for Round 2, I can use this as the Quiz bet too as might not be easy for me to make bets until next week

[Trofo]

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I have a question. If the correct answer is not in anyone's quiz answer, will the next closest answer win points? For example Australia now has fastest goal but nobody picked them. Is England and Argentina answer considered correct if nobody else scores earlier than 10'?

Sportsbet has instant BTC deposits for a long time now, I am using that feature almost daily and I consider it as one of the best things they decided to do ever. You can't withdraw the money before 3 confirmations though which is perfectly fine. Such a simple solution and I can't belive competition does not use it.

If nobody is correct, nobody gets the point. Wouldn't be fair to grade it otherwise unless we specifically stated it in the question.