No petrol/diesel car sales by 2035/ Reality or dream?

[YOSHIE]

So, will this goal be achieved by the year 2035? Will the cars be more efficient and at a good price compared to current prices, or is it a policy that may take decades?

My country has conducted trials for the public, so that at least in the next few years people will be able to buy and enjoy the benefits of electric cars, but the trial is not efficient, there are pros and cons, apart from the high price, there are several other obstacles that are not suitable for society.
For example:

1. Travel range is limited, not in accordance with the wishes of the community.
2. Charging the battery takes a very long time.
3. Expensive costs for battery damage and repair and so on.

In my opinion, the economics of electric cars are quite high and maintenance is not in accordance with the economy of society in general, electric cars are suitable for those with high incomes, not for those with middle and low incomes.

My understanding is that electric cars are not suitable for all countries, only a few countries like Europe, maybe, but Asia doesn't get a positive response about electric cars.

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[Alpha Marine]

In my opinion, the economics of electric cars are quite high and maintenance is not in accordance with the economy of society in general, electric cars are suitable for those with high incomes, not for those with middle and low incomes.

Some people argue that this will flood the market with EVs thereby making it less expensive but I disagree.
No matter how flooded it get, it won't be sold below the production cost and the cost of producing electric vehicles is quite high.

2035 is just a decade and two years from now, that's a very short time to transition from petrol and diesel to 100% EV.
I believe the world will get to that level one day, but it won't be within the next decade.
More advancement needs to happen. This would happen when they have found a way to minimize the production cost and fix most of the disadvantages of EVs such as charging time and travel distance etc.

But are these governments really ready to move on from oil? They make so much money from oil and other oil products, so when every car no longer needs oil, products like petrol, engine oil, and diesel, oil loses its value, thereby making these government and top shots in the oil business lose money. Are they really ready for that?

[poodle63]

If they are going to ban oil car sales, they have to bring an alternative which is as good as oil cars. At the moment electric cars are not an alternative because of the costs of replacing batteries and charging/range problems. Hydrogen cars look promising though. Toyota’s Mirai is pretty awesome and it don’t produce any toxic waste like lithium cars. (It produces water) Unless they dump the electric cars and move towards hydrogen, oil will be around for a long time. My guess is we will be driving oil cars till we run out of oil but of course, that’s if we don’t switch to hydrogen. I think tesla should have made a hydrogen car instead of going full lithium. Maybe they will realize their mistake in the future.

also with electric cars it should be replacable battery so that it don't require charging but I guess thats too much complicated adding moving parts to the car will also reduce reliability.
the problem with hydrogen fuel is that its so expensive right now, i don't know whether we could be having cheaper hydrogen as a fuel but its really not affordable for most of people.
if there's anything the government can do, its subsidizing such eco friendly energy in the first appearance.
because as we know, its always expensive at the beginning.

[junder]

If they are going to ban oil car sales, they have to bring an alternative which is as good as oil cars. At the moment electric cars are not an alternative because of the costs of replacing batteries and charging/range problems. Hydrogen cars look promising though. Toyota’s Mirai is pretty awesome and it don’t produce any toxic waste like lithium cars. (It produces water) Unless they dump the electric cars and move towards hydrogen, oil will be around for a long time. My guess is we will be driving oil cars till we run out of oil but of course, that’s if we don’t switch to hydrogen. I think tesla should have made a hydrogen car instead of going full lithium. Maybe they will realize their mistake in the future.

also with electric cars it should be replacable battery so that it don't require charging but I guess thats too much complicated adding moving parts to the car will also reduce reliability.
the problem with hydrogen fuel is that its so expensive right now, i don't know whether we could be having cheaper hydrogen as a fuel but its really not affordable for most of people.
if there's anything the government can do, its subsidizing such eco friendly energy in the first appearance.
because as we know, its always expensive at the beginning.

In my personal opinion, with the development of technology, of course, anything will be more sophisticated, at this time there are already cars and electric motors. I have tried electric motors but in my opinion the power of electric motors is not the same as motorbikes in general which have good power at normal speeds, I don't know if with electric cars I have never tried it and also if there are no cars with fuel oil, can everyone have it? in my opinion, it's not the same as now only for people who can afford it anyways it seems like electric cars have a high price.

I have a friend who always discusses the future to come with the contents of his discussions such as this topic electric cars, electric motors, even robots to be housekeepers, every time I chat with him I can't think like him is this wrong? sometimes I myself feel annoyed with his chatter like that which discusses a very distant future. okay the future will indeed come but in my opinion not everyone can discuss something like this, they discuss the future by opening a business, saving money, investing that's what they discuss not with technology like this, it is true that with electric cars and electric motors it will be more environmentally friendly but honestly I myself am not ready for all of that.

[DrBeer]

Low range is the most annoying thing about EVs. And no it can't recharge while you're drinking coffee. Fast charging takes about 30-40 minutes on most EVs. If you drive a lot on a highway you lose too much time (and also it's not particularly good for the battery). The only viable solution would be swappable battery packs like you could leave your battery at the charging station and plug another one instead but that would also require complete redesign of the EVs to make batteries swappable etc.  

Yesterday, the first Aion LX (PLUS Qianli package) car from the Chinese manufacturer GAC (Guangzhou Automobile Corp.) was spotted in Kyiv. The car can be supplied with batteries of various capacities, front-wheel drive or all-wheel drive. The single-wheel drive version is equipped with one electric motor with a power of 144 kW, and the 4x4 version has two, delivering a total of 290 kW.

With a 93 kWh battery, the range reaches 650 km (NEDC), and with the top-end 144 kWh battery – up to 1008 km. Acceleration from 0 to 100 km/h ranges from 3.9 s to 7.9. The maximum speed reaches 180 km/h. GAC crossovers are supplied to Ukraine mainly on order - at a price of 35 thousand dollars. In the most top-end configuration - up to 70 thousand dollars. Those. The price and range are very reasonable. The car cannot be called “exclusive” in terms of price; the price is quite reasonable considering its characteristics. The question of quality and durability remains... Although now, in my opinion, no one is considering a purchase for more than 5 years

PS and about charging speed:
Battery capacity: 93.3 kWh = 0.7 hours (fast charge)
Battery capacity: 144.4 kWh = 0.85 hours (fast charge)

[Dickiy]

In my opinion, the economics of electric cars are quite high and maintenance is not in accordance with the economy of society in general, electric cars are suitable for those with high incomes, not for those with middle and low incomes.

My understanding is that electric cars are not suitable for all countries, only a few countries like Europe, maybe, but Asia doesn't get a positive response about electric cars.

Yes, that is always the initial problem in the eyes of the community, in terms of sophistication it is no doubt, but there are still very many pros and cons in this breakthrough electric power vehicle, although yes this is indeed very environmentally friendly and has always been a solution recommended by the government in a country to its people to reduce the level of pollution that always disturbs and pollutes the area. On the other hand, of course, as you said, maintaining an electric car is very difficult and very expensive and there are also many other things that are cons for the community, it is very clear that this breakthrough will not enter or will not get a positive response for all people, because of course it is not in accordance with the economy of the community, as a whole, and maybe I think this is only for some people who do have a high enough income.

As time goes by, the development of the era is getting more sophisticated, there are always new things that come and look very impressive if seen from one side, but I see that work is getting harder and a lot of people are having financial problems, so maybe for now I think the purchasing power for electric vehicles can still be counted because it is far from the reach of the general public in terms of finance. I understand that this is a pretty good solution provided by the government, but I hope the government must also look at various sides related to the country's economy.

[DrBeer]

Report: The average cost of electric cars has dropped nearly $15,000 year-over-year.
Kelley Blue Book has studied the cost of electric vehicles in the United States. Over the past year, the average price of such models has decreased by almost $15,000. This was reported on the InsideEVs website.

Experts said that Tesla's aggressive policy of reducing the cost of electric cars has greatly affected the car market. Now the average cost of electric cars in the US is $50,683.

In 2022, the average cost of electric cars was $65,295. Over the year, that figure has decreased by $14,612. Compared to August of this year, electric cars have fallen in price by $1529.

The affordability of electric cars is still significantly less than internal combustion engine models. Buyers of electric models on average have to wait about 97 days for their autos to be delivered. For gasoline and diesel autos, that figure ranges from 52 to 58 days.

https://insideevs.com/news/691245/new-ev-average-price-down-15000-usd/

[terrific]

I'm trying to weigh if by that year the demand will be up and the same goes with the supply. But maybe, since there's a law and depending on the country if public transportation is better.
Then that means that there will be more supplies and lesser demand for these electric vehicles which means to say that they're going to be cheaper by that time.
I'm just having my guess but it's like this time, times are going to come back in the old days where things that we need have been reverted back to those years than being advanced like for the cars.

[STT]

Its perfectly realistic on the face of it because we can just use older car parts, it will constrict supply vs demand though which might cause some petrol or diesel cars to become worth more rather then the usual sharp depreciation.
  The biggest threat is not the car production but electric infrastructure across the country.  Just the simple question of charging time, queues, durability of recharge stations, etc. to supply this new growing fleet of drivers; surely not all new car buyers have previously used electric power as a source before so its inevitable growth in demand for those services.  Infrastructure of electricity supply is solely lacking apparently, that is the biggest flaw in it all.

[bakasabo]

Low range is the most annoying thing about EVs. And no it can't recharge while you're drinking coffee. Fast charging takes about 30-40 minutes on most EVs. If you drive a lot on a highway you lose too much time (and also it's not particularly good for the battery). The only viable solution would be swappable battery packs like you could leave your battery at the charging station and plug another one instead but that would also require complete redesign of the EVs to make batteries swappable etc.  

Yesterday, the first Aion LX (PLUS Qianli package) car from the Chinese manufacturer GAC (Guangzhou Automobile Corp.) was spotted in Kyiv. The car can be supplied with batteries of various capacities, front-wheel drive or all-wheel drive. The single-wheel drive version is equipped with one electric motor with a power of 144 kW, and the 4x4 version has two, delivering a total of 290 kW.

With a 93 kWh battery, the range reaches 650 km (NEDC), and with the top-end 144 kWh battery – up to 1008 km. Acceleration from 0 to 100 km/h ranges from 3.9 s to 7.9. The maximum speed reaches 180 km/h. GAC crossovers are supplied to Ukraine mainly on order - at a price of 35 thousand dollars. In the most top-end configuration - up to 70 thousand dollars. Those. The price and range are very reasonable. The car cannot be called “exclusive” in terms of price; the price is quite reasonable considering its characteristics. The question of quality and durability remains... Although now, in my opinion, no one is considering a purchase for more than 5 years

PS and about charging speed:
Battery capacity: 93.3 kWh = 0.7 hours (fast charge)
Battery capacity: 144.4 kWh = 0.85 hours (fast charge)

I am 100% sure that those 650km and 1008km range were calculated under perfect weather conditions, when the car drove unstoppable with constant speed with only 1 driver and empty trunk. Manufacturers always do that and call it as average and default. These results are only on the paper. Real life tests are always different. I did not have much cars, but those 4 I've had during my drivers career never showed same numbers that were in the users manual.

However, charging speed remains the bottle neck of all electric cars. With 0.7h charge time, you are bond to the car. Leaving it and going away most probably would increase queue time for other drivers that wants to charge. That would be disrespectful. With high probability, the driver will get bored by waiting and would go to gas station to get snacks. That is a "+" for petrol companies, and less effective economy in electric vs fuel expenses battle.

[Fuso.hp]

This is a very good news for Tesla, the world's most popular electric car manufacturer that produces electric cars with great designs. By 2035 the sale of diesel and petrol cars will stop if there is an outright ban on selling such cars, if there is no ban people will still buy diesel and petrol cars after 2035. 

The production of petrol and diesel is decreasing day by day in the world which is very bad news for the world so this kind of steps may be taken to reduce the demand of oil. Every year the price of this fuel is increasing but we have seen the highest price increase this year since last year. If the price of diesel and petrol continues to skyrocket like this, then it is very bad news for diesel and petrol powered vehicles, that's why the government of various leading countries may be deciding to drive through electricity.

[DrBeer]

Low range is the most annoying thing about EVs. And no it can't recharge while you're drinking coffee. Fast charging takes about 30-40 minutes on most EVs. If you drive a lot on a highway you lose too much time (and also it's not particularly good for the battery). The only viable solution would be swappable battery packs like you could leave your battery at the charging station and plug another one instead but that would also require complete redesign of the EVs to make batteries swappable etc.  

Yesterday, the first Aion LX (PLUS Qianli package) car from the Chinese manufacturer GAC (Guangzhou Automobile Corp.) was spotted in Kyiv. The car can be supplied with batteries of various capacities, front-wheel drive or all-wheel drive. The single-wheel drive version is equipped with one electric motor with a power of 144 kW, and the 4x4 version has two, delivering a total of 290 kW.

With a 93 kWh battery, the range reaches 650 km (NEDC), and with the top-end 144 kWh battery – up to 1008 km. Acceleration from 0 to 100 km/h ranges from 3.9 s to 7.9. The maximum speed reaches 180 km/h. GAC crossovers are supplied to Ukraine mainly on order - at a price of 35 thousand dollars. In the most top-end configuration - up to 70 thousand dollars. Those. The price and range are very reasonable. The car cannot be called “exclusive” in terms of price; the price is quite reasonable considering its characteristics. The question of quality and durability remains... Although now, in my opinion, no one is considering a purchase for more than 5 years

PS and about charging speed:
Battery capacity: 93.3 kWh = 0.7 hours (fast charge)
Battery capacity: 144.4 kWh = 0.85 hours (fast charge)

I am 100% sure that those 650km and 1008km range were calculated under perfect weather conditions, when the car drove unstoppable with constant speed with only 1 driver and empty trunk. Manufacturers always do that and call it as average and default. These results are only on the paper. Real life tests are always different. I did not have much cars, but those 4 I've had during my drivers career never showed same numbers that were in the users manual.

However, charging speed remains the bottle neck of all electric cars. With 0.7h charge time, you are bond to the car. Leaving it and going away most probably would increase queue time for other drivers that wants to charge. That would be disrespectful. With high probability, the driver will get bored by waiting and would go to gas station to get snacks. That is a "+" for petrol companies, and less effective economy in electric vs fuel expenses battle.

Needless to say all these figures are for near perfect performance, but this also has a logical rationale - no one knows how the car will be operated! Some people drive on good roads in a cycle of home-office-home, alone or with a wife, for example. And the other will drive from the fields to the market, in the area where the roads are bad, to transport crops from the field, with a load close to the limit. The latter is of course exaggerated, but to understand why such differences. I know myself - you turn on air conditioner/heating - and that's it - running reserve, though not critical, but changes not for the better. But here I mean something else - even if to take that the estimation is overestimated by 15% from real exploitation - it is already a good indicator. For example, 850 km is enough for me to drive from the capital to any border of the country. Especially if we take highways where the cycle is the most optimal (although it is not used almost recuperation).

With such a power reserve, the question of charging actually disappears - after driving 8-10 hours, the driver will definitely rest and noticeably more than 0.7 hours. Nobody forbids to put the car on charging in the evening and in the morning to have 600-1000 km of reserve for the day. By the way, the power reserve is clearly higher than the average needs of the average driver (we do not take cabs and similar services).

Personal statistics, the truth on hybrid RAV4, hybrid, model year 2022, full tank 55 liters - 900+ km. Used it a couple of times when I went to Transcarpathia

[philipma1957]

Low range is the most annoying thing about EVs. And no it can't recharge while you're drinking coffee. Fast charging takes about 30-40 minutes on most EVs. If you drive a lot on a highway you lose too much time (and also it's not particularly good for the battery). The only viable solution would be swappable battery packs like you could leave your battery at the charging station and plug another one instead but that would also require complete redesign of the EVs to make batteries swappable etc.  

Yesterday, the first Aion LX (PLUS Qianli package) car from the Chinese manufacturer GAC (Guangzhou Automobile Corp.) was spotted in Kyiv. The car can be supplied with batteries of various capacities, front-wheel drive or all-wheel drive. The single-wheel drive version is equipped with one electric motor with a power of 144 kW, and the 4x4 version has two, delivering a total of 290 kW.

With a 93 kWh battery, the range reaches 650 km (NEDC), and with the top-end 144 kWh battery – up to 1008 km. Acceleration from 0 to 100 km/h ranges from 3.9 s to 7.9. The maximum speed reaches 180 km/h. GAC crossovers are supplied to Ukraine mainly on order - at a price of 35 thousand dollars. In the most top-end configuration - up to 70 thousand dollars. Those. The price and range are very reasonable. The car cannot be called “exclusive” in terms of price; the price is quite reasonable considering its characteristics. The question of quality and durability remains... Although now, in my opinion, no one is considering a purchase for more than 5 years

PS and about charging speed:
Battery capacity: 93.3 kWh = 0.7 hours (fast charge)
Battery capacity: 144.4 kWh = 0.85 hours (fast charge)

I am 100% sure that those 650km and 1008km range were calculated under perfect weather conditions, when the car drove unstoppable with constant speed with only 1 driver and empty trunk. Manufacturers always do that and call it as average and default. These results are only on the paper. Real life tests are always different. I did not have much cars, but those 4 I've had during my drivers career never showed same numbers that were in the users manual.

However, charging speed remains the bottle neck of all electric cars. With 0.7h charge time, you are bond to the car. Leaving it and going away most probably would increase queue time for other drivers that wants to charge. That would be disrespectful. With high probability, the driver will get bored by waiting and would go to gas station to get snacks. That is a "+" for petrol companies, and less effective economy in electric vs fuel expenses battle.

Needless to say all these figures are for near perfect performance, but this also has a logical rationale - no one knows how the car will be operated! Some people drive on good roads in a cycle of home-office-home, alone or with a wife, for example. And the other will drive from the fields to the market, in the area where the roads are bad, to transport crops from the field, with a load close to the limit. The latter is of course exaggerated, but to understand why such differences. I know myself - you turn on air conditioner/heating - and that's it - running reserve, though not critical, but changes not for the better. But here I mean something else - even if to take that the estimation is overestimated by 15% from real exploitation - it is already a good indicator. For example, 850 km is enough for me to drive from the capital to any border of the country. Especially if we take highways where the cycle is the most optimal (although it is not used almost recuperation).

With such a power reserve, the question of charging actually disappears - after driving 8-10 hours, the driver will definitely rest and noticeably more than 0.7 hours. Nobody forbids to put the car on charging in the evening and in the morning to have 600-1000 km of reserve for the day. By the way, the power reserve is clearly higher than the average needs of the average driver (we do not take cabs and similar services).

Personal statistics, the truth on hybrid RAV4, hybrid, model year 2022, full tank 55 liters - 900+ km. Used it a couple of times when I went to Transcarpathia

Yeah 1000km = 600 miles = far enough for almost anyone. The issue of charging vanishes for sane people.  But as we all know there are lots of less than sane people. So they will be a problem and need to face heavy discipline if they fuck up.

If not they will overwhelm charging areas and cause issues. My house has a 60 amp circuit I use for mining I could put a charger on it and charge overnight easy peasy. I do have the Tesla Truck on preorder with the 500 mile / 800 km battery.

But I am sane. I also have had asthma for 18 months to my current 66 years old. So I am naturally anti fuel oil. ( I realize 100% reduction may not be achieved.) But if we could reduce it by ⅔ it would be big for all of us not just me.

[DrBeer]

Yeah 1000km = 600 miles = far enough for almost anyone. The issue of charging vanishes for sane people.  But as we all know there are lots of less than sane people. So they will be a problem and need to face heavy discipline if they fuck up.

If not they will overwhelm charging areas and cause issues. My house has a 60 amp circuit I use for mining I could put a charger on it and charge overnight easy peasy. I do have the Tesla Truck on preorder with the 500 mile / 800 km battery.

But I am sane. I also have had asthma for 18 months to my current 66 years old. So I am naturally anti fuel oil. ( I realize 100% reduction may not be achieved.) But if we could reduce it by ⅔ it would be big for all of us not just me.

I think such potential problems will be taken into account and will be “balanced” by some mechanisms. For example, the cost of charging depends on the frequency of consumption of this service. Well, or something similar, because... For suppliers who own charging stations, such a picture will also not be very profitable.

Regarding the abandonment of internal combustion engines, I completely agree with you that in the next 20 years it will not be possible to completely abandon them. They will remain in cargo transportation (although the Tesla truck solves the problem), internal combustion engines will be in demand in armies, internal combustion engines will be in demand in underdeveloped countries for many years to come.. But many countries, and what is important, CONSUMERS are taking the vector at least towards hybrids with an eye on full-fledged electric cars. As a result, it is quite possible to reduce the 2/3 of emissions you indicated !

Health and profit to you!

[Baki202]

I'm trying to weigh if by that year the demand will be up and the same goes with the supply. But maybe, since there's a law and depending on the country if public transportation is better.
Then that means that there will be more supplies and lesser demand for these electric vehicles which means to say that they're going to be cheaper by that time.
I'm just having my guess but it's like this time, times are going to come back in the old days where things that we need have been reverted back to those years than being advanced like for the cars.

the demand might have gone up a little and the supply is sufficient but how many people can actually afford cars, even till now people are still driving cars of the 1990s till now not because of anything but affordability, and if you look at the nature of these future cars like tesla they are sweet because you won't buy fuel and you also have a autopilot on the menu. the law won't be general for all countries if not where will people see the money even now people are finding it difficult to buy a car.

[stomachgrowls]

Low range is the most annoying thing about EVs. And no it can't recharge while you're drinking coffee. Fast charging takes about 30-40 minutes on most EVs. If you drive a lot on a highway you lose too much time (and also it's not particularly good for the battery). The only viable solution would be swappable battery packs like you could leave your battery at the charging station and plug another one instead but that would also require complete redesign of the EVs to make batteries swappable etc.  

Yesterday, the first Aion LX (PLUS Qianli package) car from the Chinese manufacturer GAC (Guangzhou Automobile Corp.) was spotted in Kyiv. The car can be supplied with batteries of various capacities, front-wheel drive or all-wheel drive. The single-wheel drive version is equipped with one electric motor with a power of 144 kW, and the 4x4 version has two, delivering a total of 290 kW.

With a 93 kWh battery, the range reaches 650 km (NEDC), and with the top-end 144 kWh battery – up to 1008 km. Acceleration from 0 to 100 km/h ranges from 3.9 s to 7.9. The maximum speed reaches 180 km/h. GAC crossovers are supplied to Ukraine mainly on order - at a price of 35 thousand dollars. In the most top-end configuration - up to 70 thousand dollars. Those. The price and range are very reasonable. The car cannot be called “exclusive” in terms of price; the price is quite reasonable considering its characteristics. The question of quality and durability remains... Although now, in my opinion, no one is considering a purchase for more than 5 years

PS and about charging speed:
Battery capacity: 93.3 kWh = 0.7 hours (fast charge)
Battery capacity: 144.4 kWh = 0.85 hours (fast charge)

I am 100% sure that those 650km and 1008km range were calculated under perfect weather conditions, when the car drove unstoppable with constant speed with only 1 driver and empty trunk. Manufacturers always do that and call it as average and default. These results are only on the paper. Real life tests are always different. I did not have much cars, but those 4 I've had during my drivers career never showed same numbers that were in the users manual.

However, charging speed remains the bottle neck of all electric cars. With 0.7h charge time, you are bond to the car. Leaving it and going away most probably would increase queue time for other drivers that wants to charge. That would be disrespectful. With high probability, the driver will get bored by waiting and would go to gas station to get snacks. That is a "+" for petrol companies, and less effective economy in electric vs fuel expenses battle.

Totally that a marketing strategy kind of stuff on showing those fuel economy numbers on which we cant really be able to deny that this is one of the most important thing that buyers would really be that in concern before buying a car which is on its fuel economy or efficiency on which the higher the number the better but its true that those are really just that on paper and not really that based up on real time or real life situation
which tons of factors and things that could really affect in overall. So dont expect that it would really be that on point but rather it is really that way more lesser. In speaking about EV charging speeds then we do have those fast chargers. The only issue on here is that it isnt really that available on any places just like with those gasoline stations which it is almost on everywhere on which anxiety would really be there on the time  that you've been cruising with your EV on a particular trip.

Its really that hard to believe that petrol/diesel would cease to exist because of that EV's existence. They might exist but not on the point that would be totally replacing those traditional stuffs.
When it comes to performance and features then there's still things which EV cant really be able to replace or match up with those diesel/petrol powered cars
and some application on which needed up this thing which it would really be  that always relevant and much needed.

[poodle63]

Its perfectly realistic on the face of it because we can just use older car parts, it will constrict supply vs demand though which might cause some petrol or diesel cars to become worth more rather then the usual sharp depreciation.
  The biggest threat is not the car production but electric infrastructure across the country.  Just the simple question of charging time, queues, durability of recharge stations, etc. to supply this new growing fleet of drivers; surely not all new car buyers have previously used electric power as a source before so its inevitable growth in demand for those services.  Infrastructure of electricity supply is solely lacking apparently, that is the biggest flaw in it all.

the infrastructure will be linear with the electric car demands, after all it takes time, same with oil station, do they pop up overnight? definitely no it needs time to be developed and made it sufficient for the general public.
even though its indeed that the charging time definitely a concern, because not many can afford waiting an hour just for the sake of charging, i'm pretty sure there will be better technology that can speed up the charging time.
even better if there's new technology that could bring capability of reducing the charging time into minutes.
overall that will make it become real competition for fossil fueled engine, because otherwise industry need faster and efficient transportation.

[bakasabo]

after driving 8-10 hours, the driver will definitely rest and noticeably more than 0.7 hours. Nobody forbids to put the car on charging in the evening and in the morning to have 600-1000 km of reserve for the day. By the way, the power reserve is clearly higher than the average needs of the average driver (we do not take cabs and similar services).

That is true, nobody forbids me from hooking car on the charge for whole night. But there is only one disadvantage of it - it has to be my own charger. I need to spend extra to get wires to my parking spot (in case I have private parking space under my flat or a house). Otherwise I will have to do rounds on the block, because charging spots are not next to every lamp post. That is extra time searching and walking home if charging spot is far from where I live.

We have following charging spots: usually there are two (fast and slow) at big petrol stations (big is the one with 8+ gas stations). Maybe 1 spot every 1km parallel road at dormitory area (but these parking spots are often occupied with regular fuel cars at night). In the city we have charging spots, but often they are occupied by office employees (they come at 8, hook they car and leave it till 5, even if they are fully charged in few hours).

If I come at evening and put my car charging till morning, wont be be a bad manner? If will surely be charged faster than my sleep and I will simply occupy a charging stop? Or you suggest to wake up, and move the car? Which will cause to search for parking stop for the rest of the night. Now compare all that written with 5min and full tank with petrol or diesel.

[Pejoh Asu]

I think no petrol/diesel car sales by 2035 is a dream, as we know that big countries are still investing in petrol and diesel mining so if there are no petrol/diesel cars then petrol or diesel sales will drop, especially since switching to electric cars also requires almost the same power or cost. Moreover, even now in developing countries there are still many homes that do not have electricity.

[DrBeer]

after driving 8-10 hours, the driver will definitely rest and noticeably more than 0.7 hours. Nobody forbids to put the car on charging in the evening and in the morning to have 600-1000 km of reserve for the day. By the way, the power reserve is clearly higher than the average needs of the average driver (we do not take cabs and similar services).

That is true, nobody forbids me from hooking car on the charge for whole night. But there is only one disadvantage of it - it has to be my own charger. I need to spend extra to get wires to my parking spot (in case I have private parking space under my flat or a house). Otherwise I will have to do rounds on the block, because charging spots are not next to every lamp post. That is extra time searching and walking home if charging spot is far from where I live.

We have following charging spots: usually there are two (fast and slow) at big petrol stations (big is the one with 8+ gas stations). Maybe 1 spot every 1km parallel road at dormitory area (but these parking spots are often occupied with regular fuel cars at night). In the city we have charging spots, but often they are occupied by office employees (they come at 8, hook they car and leave it till 5, even if they are fully charged in few hours).

If I come at evening and put my car charging till morning, wont be be a bad manner? If will surely be charged faster than my sleep and I will simply occupy a charging stop? Or you suggest to wake up, and move the car? Which will cause to search for parking stop for the rest of the night. Now compare all that written with 5min and full tank with petrol or diesel.

Sounds logical, but.
if you have a gasoline/diesel car - whether you want it or not, you have no options, you have to go to a gas station ! And you can't organize it at your place.
But to make at least "slow charging" in a parking lot/garage/parking lot - it is not difficult and possible. And if several car owners agree - it is possible to install "fast charging".  And still it will be profitable against the background of gasoline costs, and taking into account the monetization of this charging station by selling charging service for other owners of electric cars

I have 1 charging station near the parking lot, there seem to be 4 charging nodes. But I do not say what type... I'll check tomorrow