No petrol/diesel car sales by 2035/ Reality or dream?

[Argoo]

I doubt petrol/diesel cars will be phased out by then. Petro states will surely be against this big time and they will not allow this to happen at all costs. There probably would be a large cut on the number of ICE cars that will be produced but they will never be removed from the markets until the oil from these petro states are completely depleted and there's no more oil to be had. Perhaps a lot of countries will opt to a lot of hybrids in the coming years instead of fully abandoning petrol cars, and that is the safer option IMO.

This law bans the sale of new petrol and diesel vehicles in the EU from 2035. And this means that old cars running on gasoline and diesel fuel will continue to drive on the roads of the European Union for a long time to come. But the law itself is useful and necessary. The need to phase out gasoline and diesel internal combustion engines is evident due to the current rapid climate change. If the climate continues to change and many countries see this as an obvious danger, then the transition to electric cars may even accelerate. On the other hand, every year electric cars will improve and become cheaper. So this law in the EU, I think, will work in a timely manner.

[KingsDen]

I doubt petrol/diesel cars will be phased out by then. Petro states will surely be against this big time and they will not allow this to happen at all costs. There probably would be a large cut on the number of ICE cars that will be produced but they will never be removed from the markets until the oil from these petro states are completely depleted and there's no more oil to be had. Perhaps a lot of countries will opt to a lot of hybrids in the coming years instead of fully abandoning petrol cars, and that is the safer option IMO.

This law bans the sale of new petrol and diesel vehicles in the EU from 2035. And this means that old cars running on gasoline and diesel fuel will continue to drive on the roads of the European Union for a long time to come. But the law itself is useful and necessary. The need to phase out gasoline and diesel internal combustion engines is evident due to the current rapid climate change. If the climate continues to change and many countries see this as an obvious danger, then the transition to electric cars may even accelerate. On the other hand, every year electric cars will improve and become cheaper. So this law in the EU, I think, will work in a timely manner.

This is possible and it will happen. 2035 is quite a big number of years. Only 2 years is OK for a very big change to happen let alone 10yrs time. Even if the law is not passed, people on their own will be drifting away from the use of combustion engine vehicles. Humanity likes safety and convenience and moreso they tend to follow trends. By 2035 many things will change to your greatest surprise.

[DrBeer]

It's not happening very soon, electric vehicles won't generate money like cars running on petrol and diesel, the man that invented a car using water to run was assassinated because this will make petrol useless or make the government less money, Cars running on gas is still better than using electricity, I am not saying it's impossible but I doubt it will generate better money, right now, its less safe to even drive electric vehicles, because I keep hearing they go up in flames and burn down with no reason.

By the way, yes. If you now look at the market for individual vehicles, there are unicycles, scooters, bicycles, and electric motorcycles. It has become an alternative to the car, for local trips. The home-work-shop-home cycle is quite well provided by the above solutions.
Regarding "often catch fire and burn out" - I'll tell you - a lot of cars constantly break down, get into accidents, and people die there. But let me clarify - these are very budget, very low-quality, without normal security solutions. Similarly, low-quality electric vehicles.
By the way, the ignition of cars with internal combustion engines, both on gasoline and on gas, is not uncommon, although the technology has been around for more than 100+ years

[Bananington]

Many governments are moving to push hard to reduce sales of diesel and petrol cars, the European Parliament has officially approved a law banning the sale of new petrol and diesel cars in the EU from 2035

The effects of emission from petrol and diesel powered is becoming more of a concern as it contributes to global warming. It makes sense that there is an intentional move to slow down global warming by reducing the sales of petrol and diesel powered automobiles and replacing them with electrical vehicles. Tesla and some other automobile companies have already proven that it is possible, so in the coming years, we will see more automobile companies move into the production and sales of electrically powered vehicles, which will then replace Petrol and diesel and make them old-fashion.

[xSkylarx]

Many governments are moving to push hard to reduce sales of diesel and petrol cars, the European Parliament has officially approved a law banning the sale of new petrol and diesel cars in the EU from 2035

The effects of emission from petrol and diesel powered is becoming more of a concern as it contributes to global warming. It makes sense that there is an intentional move to slow down global warming by reducing the sales of petrol and diesel powered automobiles and replacing them with electrical vehicles. Tesla and some other automobile companies have already proven that it is possible, so in the coming years, we will see more automobile companies move into the production and sales of electrically powered vehicles, which will then replace Petrol and diesel and make them old-fashion.

Even Honda and Toyota have started to make their own electric cars right now, as they knew the market would be better for EV cars than traditional ones. Yamaha is also making electric motorcycles, which are pretty hot right now as most motorcycle enthusiasts want one as it is way more affordable and they can save up. Though it doesn't mean it will replace all, as there are still countries like remote areas where having an EV is difficult, so they will stick to gasoline cars for their area.

[Frankolala]

This will be possible to achieve in the year 2035,since there will make the price cheap for people to afford. This will be more economical compare to petrol cars when it comes to maintenance. This will cause low demand on petrol,gas and diesel.

It will be impossible in some parts of the world, like the third world countries who suffers from constant power supply as it will be a big challenge for them to embrace this change. Some Africa countries depends on crude oil byproducts to survive and might find it difficult to stop the use of petrol cars.

[White pawn]

This will be possible to achieve in the year 2035,since there will make the price cheap for people to afford. This will be more economical compare to petrol cars when it comes to maintenance. This will cause low demand on petrol,gas and diesel.

It will be impossible in some parts of the world, like the third world countries who suffers from constant power supply as it will be a big challenge for them to embrace this change. Some Africa countries depends on crude oil byproducts to survive and might find it difficult to stop the use of petrol cars.

I’d like to always think that anything is possible. But I don’t think it would be easy to achieve all that in 10 years time. And I wonder how exactly would manufactures make the prices cheap and affordable for the people to use. I think if it’s attainable, it would not be easy solely for the fact that people are used to diesel and petrol fueled engines.

It won’t be impossible in developing nations. It would be extremely difficult, but not impossible. And it would definitely take a whole lot more than a decade to have developing nations transit to electric run vehicles. Some other countries and not just ones in the African continent depend on a huge part on oil for their energy needs.
The sooner the world sheds off its dependence on oil, the better for us all.

[philipma1957]

Many governments are moving to push hard to reduce sales of diesel and petrol cars, the European Parliament has officially approved a law banning the sale of new petrol and diesel cars in the EU from 2035

The landmark law will require carmakers to cut down CO2 emissions by 100 percent.
The 100 percent cut in CO2 emissions from new cars sold would make it impossible to sell petrol or diesel-powered cars in the 27-country bloc. The law that comes into effect in phases that will require a 55 percent cut in CO2 emissions for new cars starting 2030, which is a much higher target in comparison to the current 37.5 percent.

Source ---> https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/auto/electric-cars/no-petrol/diesel-car-sales-by-2035-european-parliament-approves-ban/articleshow/97939363.cms

Some reports indicate that the costs of running an electric car are actually lower than the costs of running a car with an internal combustion engine.
So, will this goal be achieved by the year 2035? Will the cars be more efficient and at a good price compared to current prices, or is it a policy that may take decades?

I think that this plan was drawn up for a different reason than to reduce carbon dioxide emissions in the atmosphere. Rather, because these countries need to reduce gasoline consumption. In any case, this is an excellent initiative, and it is worth all the difficulties that will have to be overcome to its full implementation.  I think by 2037 there won't be a single gasoline-fueled car left. I think the industrial sector of these 27 countries needs to think about how to convert cars with gasoline engines into electric traction. Then they won't have to throw them all in the landfill.

Or it could just be a plan. The other countries are looking at it differently because no petrol/diesel with ruin the industrialization of the countries that produce products. Without it, it will destroy their economy.

You know, they also want to improve the lives of thier people.  Without petrol/diesel, the economy of India or China will also be ruined and they are the rising power in the east. Are they not going to protect thier interest?

The rest of the world back in thier time have been using Petrol and diesel to manufacture products and making their country rich, should India and China deprive thier country to become superpower as well?

Dude China and India have gambled that banging out kids is the way to go.

Those 2 countries have close to 3 billion of the 8 billion people in the world. Yet only have 2.5% of the land mass.

so 37% of the people and 2.5% of  the land .

I left out antarctica .

so basically those numbers mean they should lower their population to land ratio.

and oil gas or coal vs wind solar or hydrogen won't help much.

I guess if they invent a cold fusion reactor they could catch up a bit.

But the people to land number is a big concern.

BTW people to land mass works out really well for Russia. I would suspect that Russia would continue to use oil and coal and nat gas for the next 100 years as global warming favors them bigly

[Vaskiy]

Long back itself India aimed to stop the sale of petrol and diesel cars by 2030. In reality is this possible is the question. At any circumstances, this isn't gonna happen. To meet the needs of the vehicles in usage India have got around 70k fuel stations. Even if the electric vehicle sales reaches the peak of 80% sales of two wheelers, 70% of taxi vehicles and 40% of commercial vehicles there is need of 1.5% increase in the need of oil by 2030. It means the market of electric vehicle increases along with some good rise in the need for oil.

[Justtoons]

From the health aspect, One of the major reasons why electric cars were designed, was to reduce the creation of deadly hydrocarbons like Co2 gas that forms from exhaust of vehicles and burning.  In some poor countries where economy is very low creating such laws won't be of any help to them because the prices of such vehicles will be at a very high cost of which most of them cannot afford. Also there will be high cost of maintenance for such vehicles and not all countries can afford providing such services for it's citizens so therefore creating more problems for the economy. I really don't think banning the sales of petrol using vehicles will actually have any benefits. Now let's say this law is implemented, will it only cover just vehicles? What about bikes, lorries, trucks and other locomotive engines will they also be converted to electric running machines? Because if yes then it will take more than the next 10 years for this to be accomplished.

[pooya87]

BTW people to land mass works out really well for Russia.

If you want to use land then you should use people to "livable land" ratio because in some countries a considerable percentage of the geography is not livable like Russia, Japan, Canada, etc.

[browsiek]

Many governments are moving to push hard to reduce sales of diesel and petrol cars, the European Parliament has officially approved a law banning the sale of new petrol and diesel cars in the EU from 2035

The effects of emission from petrol and diesel powered is becoming more of a concern as it contributes to global warming. It makes sense that there is an intentional move to slow down global warming by reducing the sales of petrol and diesel powered automobiles and replacing them with electrical vehicles. Tesla and some other automobile companies have already proven that it is possible, so in the coming years, we will see more automobile companies move into the production and sales of electrically powered vehicles, which will then replace Petrol and diesel and make them old-fashion.

this is likely to happen in 2035 where sales of gasoline and diesel will be scarce, this is evidenced by the many car companies that modify gasoline into electricity.  People have even felt the scarcity of oil from now on, in addition to reducing pollution on earth, electric cars are a community solution to protect the environment and natural resources so they don't become extinct. As we know, oil, diesel and gasoline are non-renewable resources.  .

[bakasabo]

Until it will take few minutes to charge electric cars battery to 100% and such will be able to run +1k km on a single charge, there will be no switch from petrol/diesel cars to electric. Still dont understand how people agreed to wait so long before their car charges fully. Not everyone is able to work remotely and allow himself to spend lose so much time on charging. This goes completely against saying "time is money". If only we had car batteries with enough capacity that can be "pulled out-put in". Only then we can refuse cars with petrol/diesel.

[DrBeer]

I'm quite skeptical regarding this "You'll own nothing, and you'll be happy" lifestyle. For many needs car-sharing is not very convenient and is too expensive. As to the energy, I'm sure you know we're still burning coal and natural gas to produce it. We already have electricity shortage in many regions. Building more charging stations and selling more EVs will make things much worse.

It is foolish to argue that everything will be the same for everyone everywhere. Different levels of development of society provide different opportunities. There are regions where people don’t understand at all why a car, if you left the hut, here’s a palm tree for you, here’s an ocean for you - collect / catch - and you are provided with everything! There are countries where, for example, even the power grids are simply not developed. And they will continue to ride buffaloes or bicycles. There are countries where they know what electricity is and it is even available in almost every home, but the standard of living, in terms of income, does not allow mass purchase of even simple cars, and therefore most people ride scooters. There are countries where people refuse pension supplements because they think it is not the right economic move, and will not bring anything good for the economy. At the same time, they have everything, including several cars in the canopy, and high-class cars, and they will gladly buy a more environmentally friendly even now.

Similarly, with services and energy - if carsharing was not convenient, it would not be on the market. But the topic is objectively convenient. Renting a car, especially with such a service, is mega-convenient. Personally enjoyed! Here is an example - we flew with friends to rest, oh. Tenerife. We all have our own cars at home. We were going to travel around the island, to see it. On foot, it’s difficult, scooters are not suitable, friends have small children. We just took and rented the necessary cars - they themselves are tailored to small children, my wife and I are comfortable in a more compact car. The right class, the right size, with the right options (child seats for friends, a convertible for my family). Or did you have to bring your own car? I'm not ready for such an act
  And in the mentality of many people there is already a paradigm shift from "ownership" to "dynamic satisfaction of needs."

Energy - I also agree that not everything is good everywhere. But it is necessary and it will be changed! I hope we will find the time when electricity becomes simple, affordable and ubiquitous, for all inhabitants of the earth

[Dickiy]

I doubt petrol/diesel cars will be phased out by then. Petro states will surely be against this big time and they will not allow this to happen at all costs. There probably would be a large cut on the number of ICE cars that will be produced but they will never be removed from the markets until the oil from these petro states are completely depleted and there's no more oil to be had. Perhaps a lot of countries will opt to a lot of hybrids in the coming years instead of fully abandoning petrol cars, and that is the safer option IMO.

This law bans the sale of new petrol and diesel vehicles in the EU from 2035. And this means that old cars running on gasoline and diesel fuel will continue to drive on the roads of the European Union for a long time to come. But the law itself is useful and necessary. The need to phase out gasoline and diesel internal combustion engines is evident due to the current rapid climate change. If the climate continues to change and many countries see this as an obvious danger, then the transition to electric cars may even accelerate. On the other hand, every year electric cars will improve and become cheaper. So this law in the EU, I think, will work in a timely manner.

But if you think about it again I don't think it will actually happen completely, heavily loaded vehicles definitely use diesel to be more effective in delivering goods from area to area, even today when gasoline is the top priority for cars, still Diesel fuel is the main choice for heavy vehicles because it will be more effective for the capital and strength of the car itself, most likely if this electric power is applied to a car that is heavily loaded it will definitely require more power and burn higher capital.
But for a lightly loaded car vehicle it is possible for the 2035.

[franky1]

BTW people to land mass works out really well for Russia.

If you want to use land then you should use people to "livable land" ratio because in some countries a considerable percentage of the geography is not livable like Russia, Japan, Canada, etc.

thats questionable


homes can be built literally anywhere
though Chernobyl, Fukushima and bikini islands is least likely desirable place to build a home

[Quidat]

Until it will take few minutes to charge electric cars battery to 100% and such will be able to run +1k km on a single charge, there will be no switch from petrol/diesel cars to electric. Still dont understand how people agreed to wait so long before their car charges fully. Not everyone is able to work remotely and allow himself to spend lose so much time on charging. This goes completely against saying "time is money". If only we had car batteries with enough capacity that can be "pulled out-put in". Only then we can refuse cars with petrol/diesel.

Charging stations would be commonly placed on places where people do usually park but there would be those points on where it would be placed just like those petrol stations too.
You are right that time is money on which you cant really just wait up for some time because you are charging up along the way.Its true that when it comes to convenience or on the go then
petrol will still rule out.This is why i dont see the chances or probabilities that it would be replaced up soon because there are things which are supposed to be staying because it is
way more efficient and sensible on having rather than on total changes.

[bakasabo]

Until it will take few minutes to charge electric cars battery to 100% and such will be able to run +1k km on a single charge, there will be no switch from petrol/diesel cars to electric. Still dont understand how people agreed to wait so long before their car charges fully. Not everyone is able to work remotely and allow himself to spend lose so much time on charging. This goes completely against saying "time is money". If only we had car batteries with enough capacity that can be "pulled out-put in". Only then we can refuse cars with petrol/diesel.

Charging stations would be commonly placed on places where people do usually park but there would be those points on where it would be placed just like those petrol stations too.
You are right that time is money on which you cant really just wait up for some time because you are charging up along the way.Its true that when it comes to convenience or on the go then
petrol will still rule out.This is why i dont see the chances or probabilities that it would be replaced up soon because there are things which are supposed to be staying because it is
way more efficient and sensible on having rather than on total changes.

I will limit my dissatisfaction to long charging times.

I live in a city with population around one million. When I took electro car for test drive, I have visited probably 3 or 4 charging places and all of them were occupied. People come, connect their car, and leave for a work and etc. Instead of charging and driving away, they leave their car there, as this is a free parking or parking place. That is why to charge a car, I must complete a quest and find a free spot. I can agree to wait 30-90 minutes while car charges, but I find it stupid to drive around and search for a unoccupied charging place. This is annoying, this is nervous, as I am driving a recharging car. I am scared that one time such search will stop with 0km charge somewhere in the middle of a street.

[Findingnemo]

We may see no car manufacturers will be manufacturing IC engine cars by that time because already the hige manufacturers are doing R&D for producing the practical EV vehicles but the charging station infrastructure is lacking in most countries so people are not buying it now but I feel by 2025/26 itself we can see the actual evolution of EV vehicles.

[NotATether]

Some reports indicate that the costs of running an electric car are actually lower than the costs of running a car with an internal combustion engine.

For the end user, after the initial buying price? Probably.
Overall? No. The batteries are expensive and their production is harmful for the environment. I don't think that most countries will even have proper battery disposal facilities by 2035.
Even the charging of EV is a difficult problem, because it can drain the grid under safety levels. EV can have a proper future only after we (humans) invent much better ways of storing electricity for both EV, charging stations, regions (!!).

And, in places where blackouts are likely to happen, nobody will even be able to use their cars. Whereas gas stations can continue functioning even without power as long as the station itself has a generator - but the cars themselves need none of that.

If you've ever refueled a car before, you'll know that the process takes a few minutes maximum. Even with smaller devices such as PCs and phones, the charging can take hours. So I'm wondering how electric cars will be able to be recharged in a reasonable amount of time, let alone minutes.

I know Tesla's making it fashionable to use "charging stations" and leave your car parked there for hours, but that's a pretty dumb idea if you need to get somewhere fast, or if you're driving a taxi or bus or even for Uber/Lyft.