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May 27, 2023, 07:37:29 AM
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Well, rich people may not gamble continuously since they don't gamble to get big wins but they do it as a hobby or just to have some fun and use it as a pass time activity. The high rollers in every casino, especially the land-based ones, are rich people who gamble with a lot of money and some of them don't even care if they lose all of it.

The main thing is the difference in perspectives and how people from each category look at gambling. A rich person would obviously not look to gamble his way to richness since he is already rich, and a poor person wants to turn the little money that he has into a fortune.

Right, yeah, I think that's how it goes. The rich people gambling are just using a bit of their money for fun, knowing that they won't make money from it most probably.

Whereas the poor will usually pay to have the hope to become rich, which ironically makes it impossible for them to ever become rich as they waste all their money.
Because for those who are poor and gamble just one win is able to forget all the losses they have suffered, for example, they getting $ 200 from 1 game with only $5 capital will make them happy because $200 may be the biggest value they have ever had but forget that before getting $200 they already spent quite a lot maybe even bigger but it didn't feel like it because they never recorded it and it happened over and over again.
I see how people who keep buying lotteries even with only $1 every day who if they win only give them less than $100 and think they are lucky but they are not. Poor people often do gambling because they think this is the easiest way to get big money compared to continuing to work if they get the jackpot it will change their life even though their life won't change because usually, the person will spend their money more because they can't control emotions when get a lot of money.
The affluent versus the struggling bettor. But what if we give the coin a spin, toss it sideways? A person's financial standing doesn't necessarily pull the strings of their gambling habit. The puppet master here is psychology.

Ponder this. The intoxicating mix of risk and potential gain, it doesn't discriminate between the classes. It's less about the size of the bank account, more about the electric thrill! High-roller games may be the favored haunt of the wealthy, true, but isn't there equal delight for those at the penny slots, despite the fewer zeros in their balance?

Now, let's spin this yarn from another angle. For the less fortunate gambler, the siren call of a life-altering win can be overwhelmingly enticing. Yet, can we justly lay all the blame at their feet? What of the societal frameworks and economic circumstances that nurture and sustain poverty? Perhaps our real wager should be on societal renovation instead of lottery dreams. Now that's a prize worth pursuing!

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May 27, 2023, 05:15:48 PM
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Rich or poor both love money. Those who gamble would want to quit it. Those who have not tried it. Would want to have the taste of it. One of my friends is Muslim ans he avoids gambling and is scared to loose his money.
So I too want to save my wealth and would like not to gamble.
Right rich or poor, love money. But if they were gambling to make money, it would be a fatal mistake because it would not be what they had anticipated. And they can even become addicted to gambling after being at gambling for a while. It's good if your friend avoids gambling for fear of losing money, especially in his religion. There is indeed a prohibition against gambling. But some play gambling just because they want to have fun, and they get it from gambling and can overcome the desire to get more money or overcome their greed.
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May 27, 2023, 05:28:43 PM
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Right rich or poor, love money. But if they were gambling to make money, it would be a fatal mistake because it would not be what they had anticipated. And they can even become addicted to gambling after being at gambling for a while. It's good if your friend avoids gambling for fear of losing money, especially in his religion. There is indeed a prohibition against gambling. But some play gambling just because they want to have fun, and they get it from gambling and can overcome the desire to get more money or overcome their greed.
I agree both can be subject to addiction whether they are poor or not they can both be addictive. It is not bad to avoid gambling if you really want don't want to gamble because you can't control yourself. In my case I gamble because I just want to have fun , for me it requires strategy it will make your mind think and you will grow friends as well in traditional ones sometimes even online.
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May 27, 2023, 07:08:39 PM
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Rich or poor both love money. Those who gamble would want to quit it. Those who have not tried it. Would want to have the taste of it. One of my friends is Muslim ans he avoids gambling and is scared to loose his money.
So I too want to save my wealth and would like not to gamble.
Right rich or poor, love money. But if they were gambling to make money, it would be a fatal mistake because it would not be what they had anticipated. And they can even become addicted to gambling after being at gambling for a while. It's good if your friend avoids gambling for fear of losing money, especially in his religion. There is indeed a prohibition against gambling. But some play gambling just because they want to have fun, and they get it from gambling and can overcome the desire to get more money or overcome their greed.

That said, it will be much safer and less addictive if we treat gambling as a form of entertainment where we can blow off some steam after having a stress week from work or even after having a long day at work. I mean, we all deserve to have a past time and it's up to us where we will spend it but if in-case that we are more inclined towards the most expensive form of entertainment which is gambling, then we might as well prepare for the worse so that we will not be burying ourselves in the future if things go wrong.

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May 27, 2023, 09:20:13 PM
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The thing is gambling is not a way to make money, and rich people know this. They might play here and there, but they make their money in different ways. Poor people usually don't make money in other ways and they gamble in the hope of becoming rich, which will never happen.

Right, gambling is not the right way to make money. however, gambling can bring in money if luck is on our side. but there is another side that we must know, gambling is not ideal if we make it as a side income, especially if it is used as a livelihood. gambling, became part of the fun entertainment in this era. but what we need to know, that gambling has risks in it that can make someone become an addict.

Even so, gambling also offers pleasure and provides experience for the connoisseurs. plus, when luck is on our side, gambling gives the sensation of winning which is quite sensational. and this, is the plus point of gambling. Unfortunately, there are many people who think gambling can provide instant income. whereas, the way of thinking should be reversed. I mean, make this one hobby just part of a fun entertainment. if we are lucky, let's say we get a bonus from fun entertainment.

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May 28, 2023, 03:11:11 AM
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Right, gambling is not the right way to make money. however, gambling can bring in money if luck is on our side. but there is another side that we must know, gambling is not ideal if we make it as a side income, especially if it is used as a livelihood. gambling, became part of the fun entertainment in this era. but what we need to know, that gambling has risks in it that can make someone become an addict.

Even so, gambling also offers pleasure and provides experience for the connoisseurs. plus, when luck is on our side, gambling gives the sensation of winning which is quite sensational. and this, is the plus point of gambling. Unfortunately, there are many people who think gambling can provide instant income. whereas, the way of thinking should be reversed. I mean, make this one hobby just part of a fun entertainment. if we are lucky, let's say we get a bonus from fun entertainment.

Yeah, but it's a delicate balance.

Some people are not able to control themselves and end up losing their entire life savings in a single night, trying to recover their previous loses.

Although some people might enjoy the occasional visit to the casino, there are also many other forms of entertainment that don't come with this huge risk of catastrophic financial consequences.

But of course, everyone should be able to choose for themselves and gamble as much or as little as they want for whatever reasons they have.

All that I'm saying here is that the most probable outcome in gambling is to lose your money in the long term.

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May 28, 2023, 09:28:57 AM
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I agree both can be subject to addiction whether they are poor or not they can both be addictive. It is not bad to avoid gambling if you really want don't want to gamble because you can't control yourself. In my case I gamble because I just want to have fun , for me it requires strategy it will make your mind think and you will grow friends as well in traditional ones sometimes even online.
It's good if you already know what your goal is in gambling, and it's just for fun because it's true that you say that gambling can be addictive for everyone. Maybe making a strategy will help you make gambling a place for fun. Meanwhile, other people must know how to treat gambling so it doesn't get out of hand. And self-control is needed so that we don't become addicted because addiction can come quickly without realizing it.

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That said, it will be much safer and less addictive if we treat gambling as a form of entertainment where we can blow off some steam after having a stress week from work or even after having a long day at work. I mean, we all deserve to have a past time and it's up to us where we will spend it but if in-case that we are more inclined towards the most expensive form of entertainment which is gambling, then we might as well prepare for the worse so that we will not be burying ourselves in the future if things go wrong.
Those already experiencing stress from work or after working all day do not need to gamble if they know it. They can use other things that may not cost money just for fun. But that's us. We even try to play gambling, and many of us eventually become addicted. Even at first, we have no intention of playing gambling for a long time and just want to have fun. And when we lose at gambling, instead of realizing that those are the risks of gambling, we get angry and want to recover from that loss.
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May 28, 2023, 11:25:24 AM
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Right, gambling is not the right way to make money. however, gambling can bring in money if luck is on our side. but there is another side that we must know, gambling is not ideal if we make it as a side income, especially if it is used as a livelihood. gambling, became part of the fun entertainment in this era. but what we need to know, that gambling has risks in it that can make someone become an addict.

Even so, gambling also offers pleasure and provides experience for the connoisseurs. plus, when luck is on our side, gambling gives the sensation of winning which is quite sensational. and this, is the plus point of gambling. Unfortunately, there are many people who think gambling can provide instant income. whereas, the way of thinking should be reversed. I mean, make this one hobby just part of a fun entertainment. if we are lucky, let's say we get a bonus from fun entertainment.

Yeah, but it's a delicate balance.

Some people are not able to control themselves and end up losing their entire life savings in a single night, trying to recover their previous loses.

Although some people might enjoy the occasional visit to the casino, there are also many other forms of entertainment that don't come with this huge risk of catastrophic financial consequences.

But of course, everyone should be able to choose for themselves and gamble as much or as little as they want for whatever reasons they have.

All that I'm saying here is that the most probable outcome in gambling is to lose your money in the long term.


Most of the time, that's the outcome. If you will deal with it in a long-term process, you can win, then losses it, back then just repeat it all over again and the outcome favor the losing side. As time goes by and you will keep trying to recover those losses and instead of making something good when you manage to find some luck, but due to the wrong impression with luck, you'll push more and lose it back after.

Better not to play or yes, doing it occasionally might work, but trying to win against the house it would just lead you to have more problem in both mentally and physically.

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May 28, 2023, 01:16:48 PM
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The thing is gambling is not a way to make money, and rich people know this. They might play here and there, but they make their money in different ways. Poor people usually don't make money in other ways and they gamble in the hope of becoming rich, which will never happen.

In most cases that's what happened and the poor think that playing with their money is the best way to change their life but they have it contrary because if they cannot afford to stop, the next thing they find out is they are addicted to it which they cannot control themselves anymore. There are only a few rich people who lose their minds when they lose everything because of gambling and most people that are victims with the mindset of gambling will make them rich, are poor because they are the ones who are quickly losing their money and property. when they lose everything most likely they lose their minds as well.

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May 28, 2023, 01:30:17 PM
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This is too much, kidnapping your own daughter is really too much, well they wont call as addicts if they would not do something terrible, the addiction of gambling is really high nowadays, they will really do something just to have money and to continue on gambling, specially if they had lost their money in gambling, they will really do things to earn money even just to hurt one of their family's or doing such things like what that old man have done to his grandaughter.

Gambling addiction is really a big problem in a community, we should alwas keep our mind good and dont let gambling control our mind to do terrible things, if we lose then we should accept it, there's no need to do bad things to have money and to continue playing again, we can still play in some other days if we already have money, do not sacrifice yourself identity just to gamble.

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May 28, 2023, 07:51:45 PM
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This is too much, kidnapping your own daughter is really too much, well they wont call as addicts if they would not do something terrible, the addiction of gambling is really high nowadays, they will really do something just to have money and to continue on gambling, specially if they had lost their money in gambling, they will really do things to earn money even just to hurt one of their family's or doing such things like what that old man have done to his grandaughter.

Gambling addiction is really a big problem in a community, we should alwas keep our mind good and dont let gambling control our mind to do terrible things, if we lose then we should accept it, there's no need to do bad things to have money and to continue playing again, we can still play in some other days if we already have money, do not sacrifice yourself identity just to gamble.
Gambling addicts will not be able to see what will happen to them when they do stupid things that violate the law because their mind have been possessed by evil

in today's modern society, all parties must be able to prevent the crime committed by gambling addicts from increasing so that nothing else is harmed because it could happen to your nephew or small children around you

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May 28, 2023, 08:00:31 PM
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People who gamble all deal with addiction in their own way. It is also not easy to get a gambling addiction under control. The problem is that you immediately experience the financial consequences, which means that you can no longer even pay certain bills. That is a completely different story with other addictions. You can't always tell if someone is dealing with a (serious) gambling addiction. In that respect, it is an addiction that can slowly destroy and break someone from the inside. What to do if it makes you aggressive and angry?

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May 28, 2023, 08:28:51 PM
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In most cases that's what happened and the poor think that playing with their money is the best way to change their life but they have it contrary because if they cannot afford to stop, the next thing they find out is they are addicted to it which they cannot control themselves anymore. There are only a few rich people who lose their minds when they lose everything because of gambling and most people that are victims with the mindset of gambling will make them rich, are poor because they are the ones who are quickly losing their money and property. when they lose everything most likely they lose their minds as well.
even worse is when the poor people who come into gambling ambitiously think of doubling the remaining money they have. but in reality the person lost several times and in the end he felt that he had lost the money he had lost at gambling after that his emotions increased and chased the defeat which resulted in addiction.
as some people have said here that a positive mindset when gambling is very necessary and drives away thoughts of big wins.

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May 28, 2023, 08:32:18 PM
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People who gamble all deal with addiction in their own way. It is also not easy to get a gambling addiction under control. The problem is that you immediately experience the financial consequences, which means that you can no longer even pay certain bills. That is a completely different story with other addictions. You can't always tell if someone is dealing with a (serious) gambling addiction. In that respect, it is an addiction that can slowly destroy and break someone from the inside. What to do if it makes you aggressive and angry?
Well, every one is not addicted, yeah, atleast, I know I am not addicted, cus reason is that..
1.. I gamble, and I am not rich yet, but I still pay all my bills and still have a large sum invested in bitcoin and other major altcoins.

And secondly, gambling addiction can still be easily controlled, it only depends on the level of addiction and the addicted patient , it depends on their mental strength and capabilities, there are gambler who get addicted, and one day, decide to stop gambling, and they would easily stop gambling without medical help or help from family or friends..
But then, there are still others who after getting addicted, will take extreme medical help for them to come out it, and even at this, the chances of going back to such addiction is still there.

So in conclusion, getting addicted to gambling, and getting rid of addiction all depends on the individual addicted, and their level of will power.

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May 28, 2023, 08:37:13 PM
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I don't think you can control emotions if you have lost a lot of money gambling. You have to imagine that you have lost all your savings and then you can imagine that you are very angry and sad about that? they are not only emotions of anger but also of loss and grief. Those are things that are very normal. Not everyone gets aggressive and angry after losing a lot of money. Some people only end up in a negative spiral and suffer from considerable depression.

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May 28, 2023, 11:22:21 PM
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If you really look into it, there are no rich people that gamble continuously. They know that they will end up losing their money, so they invest it in other things instead.

It's usually the poorest people the ones that end up gambling because they cannot afford a nice life, but they can afford to have the chance of having a nice life, which is the whole illusion of gambling
Well, rich people may not gamble continuously since they don't gamble to get big wins but they do it as a hobby or just to have some fun and use it as a pass time activity. The high rollers in every casino, especially the land-based ones, are rich people who gamble with a lot of money and some of them don't even care if they lose all of it.

The main thing is the difference in perspectives and how people from each category look at gambling. A rich person would obviously not look to gamble his way to richness since he is already rich, and a poor person wants to turn the little money that he has into a fortune.
It is kind of ironic that those which can gamble for as long as they want do not have the desire to do so, while those which do not have the resources would wish to do it, but that is simply human nature, once a person reaches a level of wealth they begin to become way more careful about the way they use their money as they want to retain their current status, and once they do that they may enjoy to gamble and put some of their money at risk, but at the same time they will never bet more than what it allows them to obtain the fun they are looking for.
Rich or poor both love money. Those who gamble would want to quit it. Those who have not tried it. Would want to have the taste of it. One of my friends is Muslim ans he avoids gambling and is scared to loose his money.
So I too want to save my wealth and would like not to gamble.

you are working on promoting a casino even if it is a casino that uses dirty methods to withhold people's funds, but let's leave that aside, the point is that when a person promotes a product or a company (in this case a casino) It is important that this person is the first to play in that casino, because the person will be aware of the advantages and disadvantages of using the casino that he is advertising and with that he will not lie when someone asks if he can use the casino that he is advertising, at that moment you will already know how to give a better answer, also if all people are not playing in the casino then how will the casino pay you?

this is another point, the casino needs to have a lot of people playing to be able to make a profit and pay you, if the casino doesn't have many customers who play a lot and with a lot of money then the casino will go bankrupt and with that it won't pay you anything, about this issue of banning gambling because of a religious issue, I think it is nonsense and even ironic, because the term gambling has nothing to do with luck or bad luck in practice, it has to do with mathematics (probability), it has nothing to do with myths. but muslims insist with their religion stuff, anyway it's something so sick the evil things that religion has done and said it's better that I don't dwell on this subject

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May 28, 2023, 11:28:03 PM
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I don't think you can control emotions if you have lost a lot of money gambling. You have to imagine that you have lost all your savings and then you can imagine that you are very angry and sad about that? they are not only emotions of anger but also of loss and grief. Those are things that are very normal. Not everyone gets aggressive and angry after losing a lot of money. Some people only end up in a negative spiral and suffer from considerable depression.

True.

You need a day or two for grieving for your lost money, but then you must let it go and focus on the present.

There's no positive in focusing on the past, it will just make you miserable your whole life.

The point of the past is to not repeat the same mistakes again. Learn from it and move on.

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May 28, 2023, 11:34:10 PM
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The thing is gambling is not a way to make money, and rich people know this. They might play here and there, but they make their money in different ways. Poor people usually don't make money in other ways and they gamble in the hope of becoming rich, which will never happen.

You have a good point here, people must have in mind that gambling is a way to have fun and not a way to make money, because while more money you chase more money you will lose in the long run. And the worst part is the mental health, a bad gambling streak could end in depression and in worse scenarios can lead to suicide.

And just as with any addiction, it must be treated before it's too late for it.

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May 28, 2023, 11:54:18 PM
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The thing is gambling is not a way to make money, and rich people know this. They might play here and there, but they make their money in different ways. Poor people usually don't make money in other ways and they gamble in the hope of becoming rich, which will never happen.

You have a good point here, people must have in mind that gambling is a way to have fun and not a way to make money, because while more money you chase more money you will lose in the long run. And the worst part is the mental health, a bad gambling streak could end in depression and in worse scenarios can lead to suicide.

And just as with any addiction, it must be treated before it's too late for it.

At first the method was done for fun and to get a lot of profit. So gradually there will be a perception that gambling makes a lot of money so it will become addictive.
Gambling will not always provide benefits, there will be events where money will disappear and continue to get losses. if they are hooked, more and more money will be added and lost for nothing. this will be a ticking time bomb that sends them out of control. addiction will have long term repercussions and this will not be good. need early control and awareness that gambling that is too forced will have a bad impact.

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May 29, 2023, 03:48:44 AM
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I don't think you can control emotions if you have lost a lot of money gambling. You have to imagine that you have lost all your savings and then you can imagine that you are very angry and sad about that? they are not only emotions of anger but also of loss and grief. Those are things that are very normal. Not everyone gets aggressive and angry after losing a lot of money. Some people only end up in a negative spiral and suffer from considerable depression.
It's very hard to control emotions because of losing money, not just gambling. But that's what happens when we gamble without good self-control. Sadness will come to us but we still have the opportunity not to be too sad anymore by reducing gambling activities so we can still have money. Everyone will react differently when they lose money from gambling, but everyone will be sad. And the difference is that some may consider it a risk from playing gambling but some consider it nothing because they don't really think about losing money at the gambling table.

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