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May 29, 2023, 09:17:37 AM
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The thing is gambling is not a way to make money, and rich people know this. They might play here and there, but they make their money in different ways. Poor people usually don't make money in other ways and they gamble in the hope of becoming rich, which will never happen.

You have a good point here, people must have in mind that gambling is a way to have fun and not a way to make money, because while more money you chase more money you will lose in the long run. And the worst part is the mental health, a bad gambling streak could end in depression and in worse scenarios can lead to suicide.

And just as with any addiction, it must be treated before it's too late for it.

At first the method was done for fun and to get a lot of profit. So gradually there will be a perception that gambling makes a lot of money so it will become addictive.
Gambling will not always provide benefits, there will be events where money will disappear and continue to get losses. if they are hooked, more and more money will be added and lost for nothing. this will be a ticking time bomb that sends them out of control. addiction will have long term repercussions and this will not be good. need early control and awareness that gambling that is too forced will have a bad impact.
Any addiction is bad and excess of everything is bad. be it gambling or drinking or any thing. Has anyone read about seven deadly sin  one of them is lust - lust of anything is bad even if it is lust of knowledge.
So one should not cross the red line!

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May 29, 2023, 09:24:32 AM
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I don't think you can control emotions if you have lost a lot of money gambling. You have to imagine that you have lost all your savings and then you can imagine that you are very angry and sad about that? they are not only emotions of anger but also of loss and grief. Those are things that are very normal. Not everyone gets aggressive and angry after losing a lot of money. Some people only end up in a negative spiral and suffer from considerable depression.
It's very hard to control emotions because of losing money, not just gambling. But that's what happens when we gamble without good self-control. Sadness will come to us but we still have the opportunity not to be too sad anymore by reducing gambling activities so we can still have money. Everyone will react differently when they lose money from gambling, but everyone will be sad. And the difference is that some may consider it a risk from playing gambling but some consider it nothing because they don't really think about losing money at the gambling table.

Yes it may be that difficult to control emotions and the same way it will be very difficult to avoid losses because the more you're attempting for more opportunities the more you're loosing with failed results, there's nothing like continuing gambling when you're running too much lost on a bid to make recovery on the lost already gone on thin air, we gamble not because we got frustrated with the results we have in it, we gamble because we are satisfied with any results we received because we understand the principles in winning or loosing while gambling.
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May 29, 2023, 09:48:05 AM
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I don't think you can control emotions if you have lost a lot of money gambling. You have to imagine that you have lost all your savings and then you can imagine that you are very angry and sad about that? they are not only emotions of anger but also of loss and grief. Those are things that are very normal. Not everyone gets aggressive and angry after losing a lot of money. Some people only end up in a negative spiral and suffer from considerable depression.
It's very hard to control emotions because of losing money, not just gambling. But that's what happens when we gamble without good self-control. Sadness will come to us but we still have the opportunity not to be too sad anymore by reducing gambling activities so we can still have money. Everyone will react differently when they lose money from gambling, but everyone will be sad. And the difference is that some may consider it a risk from playing gambling but some consider it nothing because they don't really think about losing money at the gambling table.

Gambling addiction is not only that when we lose money we attempt to gamble more in order to recover the loss. Even people who win in gambling, thier lust for making profit never comes to an end. They keep on gambling more and more until thier winnings are converted into losses.

Thus it proves that gambling addiction is not related directly to win or losses. No matter the results, those who are addicted to gambling will never stop playing. They may spend all of thier money in gambling and even spend by taking loans or selling their important household items.

The disadvantages of gambling addiction is unlimited but the gamblers will never understand this.

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May 29, 2023, 09:59:21 AM
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I don't think you can control emotions if you have lost a lot of money gambling. You have to imagine that you have lost all your savings and then you can imagine that you are very angry and sad about that? they are not only emotions of anger but also of loss and grief. Those are things that are very normal. Not everyone gets aggressive and angry after losing a lot of money. Some people only end up in a negative spiral and suffer from considerable depression.
It's very hard to control emotions because of losing money, not just gambling. But that's what happens when we gamble without good self-control. Sadness will come to us but we still have the opportunity not to be too sad anymore by reducing gambling activities so we can still have money. Everyone will react differently when they lose money from gambling, but everyone will be sad. And the difference is that some may consider it a risk from playing gambling but some consider it nothing because they don't really think about losing money at the gambling table.

I want to believe that the case brought to us here is extremely rare: a grandfather who kidnapped his own granddaughter to be able to continue gambling. But, uncommon cases apart, I think that we all should reflect a little bit before starting gambling, like how much money and time do we want to spend doing that, or one's psychological state and environment.

Because the experience is not the same for someone who has financial freedom and a beatutiful family as for someone who is depressed and desperately looking for an escape route.

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May 29, 2023, 10:46:14 AM
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Yes it may be that difficult to control emotions and the same way it will be very difficult to avoid losses because the more you're attempting for more opportunities the more you're loosing with failed results, there's nothing like continuing gambling when you're running too much lost on a bid to make recovery on the lost already gone on thin air, we gamble not because we got frustrated with the results we have in it, we gamble because we are satisfied with any results we received because we understand the principles in winning or loosing while gambling.
Hopefully, those of us who often play gambling can always control our emotions and continue to learn to control them because I feel that controlling these emotions still needs to be improved. We may have experienced a near loss of self-control that nearly caused us to use up all the money or even more. But with our experiences, it turns out that they can still help us maintain that emotional control so that it doesn't disappear. While we have seen how gamblers lose money at the gambling table because they lose self-control and eventually become frustrated.

Gambling addiction is not only that when we lose money we attempt to gamble more in order to recover the loss. Even people who win in gambling, thier lust for making profit never comes to an end. They keep on gambling more and more until thier winnings are converted into losses.

Thus it proves that gambling addiction is not related directly to win or losses. No matter the results, those who are addicted to gambling will never stop playing. They may spend all of thier money in gambling and even spend by taking loans or selling their important household items.

The disadvantages of gambling addiction is unlimited but the gamblers will never understand this.
If there is no self-control, we will only lose more money. And if people who have won at gambling are even more eager to find or get another win, they will only regret it because the winning money can disappear even more quickly. We can only hope we won't experience it in the future so we won't get addicted to gambling.

Gambling addiction is something we should avoid. After all, that is the impact gamblers can experience if they don't stop for a while after playing gambling. They can play gambling in moderation and with the money they can afford so they don't feel the effects.

I want to believe that the case brought to us here is extremely rare: a grandfather who kidnapped his own granddaughter to be able to continue gambling. But, uncommon cases apart, I think that we all should reflect a little bit before starting gambling, like how much money and time do we want to spend doing that, or one's psychological state and environment.

Because the experience is not the same for someone who has financial freedom and a beatutiful family as for someone who is depressed and desperately looking for an escape route.
If we can realize that gambling will not give win but loss, we can learn from what we have experienced. And if we try to calculate how much money we have used and how much money we have won, maybe that can make us think that we have to reduce it so we don't get carried away with the offers provided by gambling.

Many people pursue financial freedom but use it the wrong way so they can't get it. And gambling is not the way to get financial freedom so they have to think of another way.

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May 29, 2023, 03:56:06 PM
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Any addiction is bad and excess of everything is bad. be it gambling or drinking or any thing. Has anyone read about seven deadly sin  one of them is lust - lust of anything is bad even if it is lust of knowledge.
So one should not cross the red line!

A red line or a boundary is something that should not be crossed, if someone does it then he will experience bad effects. About the deadly sin, I don't know it and certainly, everyone already knows the risks, whether it's a sin or not is the responsibility of each. Playing or doing something should be reasonable, it should not be excessive and too optimistic about something. Gambling is entertainment, don't let it become a disaster center that will destroy someone's life.
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May 29, 2023, 11:10:30 PM
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~snip~
Any addiction is bad and excess of everything is bad. be it gambling or drinking or any thing. Has anyone read about seven deadly sin  one of them is lust - lust of anything is bad even if it is lust of knowledge.
So one should not cross the red line!

True.

That's basically what religions teach you, how to live a good life.

It's not about what happens when you die, it's about the rest of your life here. Will you live in paradise(good life) or hell(bad life)? do these things(virtues) and don't do these things(sins).

People get caught up in the message, when in reality it's quite useful.
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May 29, 2023, 11:53:04 PM
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~snip~
Any addiction is bad and excess of everything is bad. be it gambling or drinking or any thing. Has anyone read about seven deadly sin  one of them is lust - lust of anything is bad even if it is lust of knowledge.
So one should not cross the red line!

True.

That's basically what religions teach you, how to live a good life.

It's not about what happens when you die, it's about the rest of your life here. Will you live in paradise(good life) or hell(bad life)? do these things(virtues) and don't do these things(sins).

People get caught up in the message, when in reality it's quite useful.
We do have different religions in the world which we cant hear off those 7 mortal sins or whatsoever on other religions but this is mostly be known on Christian about this major sins which a certain man
should really avoid but since we are just humans then mistakes are common but its not something that we should really tolerate or proceed on even if we do know that this is something that could bring
out harm into our lives. Gambling addiction is pertaining about greed on which this is for the love of money and if you are a type of person who does tolerate greed then you would
likely fall into the pit of such addiction because of too much greed.

On the time that you would really go opt into those criminal acts or plans then this is where next sins would be mold up and this is why we should really be careful on what we
are dealing with and it should really be that in moderation.

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May 30, 2023, 07:09:21 AM
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The hardest thing to control as a gambler is emotions, when I sit down and I think about my past gambling experience, I noticed that my emotions got the best of me, most of the money that I have lost happened because of my emotion, I was unable to control it.

To say the truth, there is no way to control your emotion, not until you set some rules for yourself and at times it is even hard to keep those rules in check but if you can stick to your rules you will be able to avoid some nasty mistakes.

There is no way anyone can control their emotions when gambling, but setting some rules of gambling for yourself will put you ahead of your emotions, because you have to keep your rules alive and stick to it.

If you are into gambling and you are a Christian, you have no religion, it makes sense that God doesn't like gambling, because it's the fastest path to destruction and it's also the destroyer of faith. Think and you will understand.
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May 30, 2023, 09:29:58 AM
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The hardest thing to control as a gambler is emotions, when I sit down and I think about my past gambling experience, I noticed that my emotions got the best of me, most of the money that I have lost happened because of my emotion, I was unable to control it.

To say the truth, there is no way to control your emotion, not until you set some rules for yourself and at times it is even hard to keep those rules in check but if you can stick to your rules you will be able to avoid some nasty mistakes.

There is no way anyone can control their emotions when gambling, but setting some rules of gambling for yourself will put you ahead of your emotions, because you have to keep your rules alive and stick to it.

If you are into gambling and you are a Christian, you have no religion, it makes sense that God doesn't like gambling, because it's the fastest path to destruction and it's also the destroyer of faith. Think and you will understand.
This is true everywhere, there are many instances in which if you really think about how you handled a particular situation you will immediately think about several ways in which you could have done it better, but doing so at the time is very difficult, as at that moment you are dealing with a great deal of pressure and it simply did not occurred to you how to handle things in a different way, however even if it is difficult the more effort you put into this the better decisions you will take under pressure, until they become second nature to you.
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May 30, 2023, 10:18:12 AM
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The hardest thing to control as a gambler is emotions, when I sit down and I think about my past gambling experience, I noticed that my emotions got the best of me, most of the money that I have lost happened because of my emotion, I was unable to control it.

Yes and that's the truth, we cannot change ourselves completely then how possible are we to effect that same change on others, change is a constant variable in life that everyone must go through but the most difficult kind of change is on addiction, but if being determined from the person's mind to change then it may come in very easy.

To say the truth, there is no way to control your emotion, not until you set some rules for yourself and at times it is even hard to keep those rules in check but if you can stick to your rules you will be able to avoid some nasty mistakes

Setting rules aren't still enough in battling addiction because you're the one that set the rules and can still break the rules except if the addicted person was being contided within a particular environment whereby he cannot even have the means to break or go against the rules.

If you are into gambling and you are a Christian, you have no religion, it makes sense that God doesn't like gambling, because it's the fastest path to destruction and it's also the destroyer of faith. Think and you will understand.

Maybe this could actually be one of the most reasons why some religious beliefs kicked against gambling because if addictions set i it will be difficult for the gambler to maintain his integrity and reputation in the family and the society he lives in because he's addicted to gambling.
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May 30, 2023, 10:49:08 AM
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If you are into gambling and you are a Christian, you have no religion, it makes sense that God doesn't like gambling, because it's the fastest path to destruction and it's also the destroyer of faith. Think and you will understand.

Maybe this could actually be one of the most reasons why some religious beliefs kicked against gambling because if addictions set i it will be difficult for the gambler to maintain his integrity and reputation in the family and the society he lives in because he's addicted to gambling.

It is surprising how not only different religions, but different countries also, have such different impressions about gambling. For some, gambling/betting is a normal activity, it is advertised everywhere, and nothing happens, while for others it is a sin and/or a reason to end up in jail.

Even within the same religion (I'm also a Christian), different points of view are our daily bread.

I sincerely believe that we should all respect each other, regardless of our religion or ideology, and neither criticize nor force anyone to do something they do not want to do. And, if eventually someone needs help, give it to him.

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I don't think you can control emotions if you have lost a lot of money gambling. You have to imagine that you have lost all your savings and then you can imagine that you are very angry and sad about that? they are not only emotions of anger but also of loss and grief. Those are things that are very normal. Not everyone gets aggressive and angry after losing a lot of money. Some people only end up in a negative spiral and suffer from considerable depression.
It's very hard to control emotions because of losing money, not just gambling. But that's what happens when we gamble without good self-control. Sadness will come to us but we still have the opportunity not to be too sad anymore by reducing gambling activities so we can still have money. Everyone will react differently when they lose money from gambling, but everyone will be sad. And the difference is that some may consider it a risk from playing gambling but some consider it nothing because they don't really think about losing money at the gambling table.
Those who sit at the gambling table and do not think about losing money they are gambler. Because they know there will be win or loss. Those who are afraid to take risks they are not perfect not only for gambling but also others risky investment platform.
Here we need to understand addiction. A gambler's loss seems normal to me, but I must call gambling for more money an addiction that diverts a gambler from his track. When a gambler gambles normally he can survive through wins and losses which is never possible with an addicted gambler.
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If you are into gambling and you are a Christian, you have no religion, it makes sense that God doesn't like gambling, because it's the fastest path to destruction and it's also the destroyer of faith. Think and you will understand.
I agree with your statement and not only in Christianity but also some other religions have restrictions on gambling because a gambling addict can indeed be destroyed in their faith, life and beliefs, they will no longer want to obey the orders and prohibitions of a religion.
But what happens a lot is that gambling addicts forget their religion and are more concerned with gambling, this is why gambling is an activity that is banned a lot.
Even though it is true that gambling is a choice, if it has a bad impact then gamblers should be able to react more to it and provide limits so that they are not affected by some of these negative impacts.

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Those who sit at the gambling table and do not think about losing money they are gambler. Because they know there will be win or loss. Those who are afraid to take risks they are not perfect not only for gambling but also others risky investment platform.
Here we need to understand addiction. A gambler's loss seems normal to me, but I must call gambling for more money an addiction that diverts a gambler from his track. When a gambler gambles normally he can survive through wins and losses which is never possible with an addicted gambler.
Addiction is one of the most harmful aspects of gambling, bet it shouldn't be experience, and I would rather stick to my losses than be anxious for additional earnings. Gambling is never a legitimate way; it does not promise that one will continue to make streak profits on a regular basis; some days, one may experience huge losses, which may lead to serious problems such as indebtedness. Gambling can be viewed from various perspectives; some regard it as a source of revenue, while others consider it as a way to make additional money for their wants.


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May 30, 2023, 01:23:45 PM
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I don't think you can control emotions if you have lost a lot of money gambling. You have to imagine that you have lost all your savings and then you can imagine that you are very angry and sad about that? they are not only emotions of anger but also of loss and grief. Those are things that are very normal. Not everyone gets aggressive and angry after losing a lot of money. Some people only end up in a negative spiral and suffer from considerable depression.
It's very hard to control emotions because of losing money, not just gambling. But that's what happens when we gamble without good self-control. Sadness will come to us but we still have the opportunity not to be too sad anymore by reducing gambling activities so we can still have money. Everyone will react differently when they lose money from gambling, but everyone will be sad. And the difference is that some may consider it a risk from playing gambling but some consider it nothing because they don't really think about losing money at the gambling table.
Those who sit at the gambling table and do not think about losing money they are gambler. Because they know there will be win or loss. Those who are afraid to take risks they are not perfect not only for gambling but also others risky investment platform.
Here we need to understand addiction. A gambler's loss seems normal to me, but I must call gambling for more money an addiction that diverts a gambler from his track. When a gambler gambles normally he can survive through wins and losses which is never possible with an addicted gambler.
Some gamblers think that playing gambling is just for fun and they don't need to spend much money because they know it will hurt them. And people like that don't always spend a lot of money because they are too afraid to risk losing their money. Losing money gambling is very painful and we can prevent it so that the loss of money is not too big. And those who gamble should realize that defeats can come more often than wins, so that is why some gamblers always limit the amount of money they have.

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It is surprising how not only different religions, but different countries also, have such different impressions about gambling. For some, gambling/betting is a normal activity, it is advertised everywhere, and nothing happens, while for others it is a sin and/or a reason to end up in jail.

Even within the same religion (I'm also a Christian), different points of view are our daily bread.

I sincerely believe that we should all respect each other, regardless of our religion or ideology, and neither criticize nor force anyone to do something they do not want to do. And, if eventually someone needs help, give it to him.

I'm sure every religion teaches good things and instructs to stay away from despicable actions, I'm 100% sure of that even including gambling even though with the big title gambling is prohibited. But whatever the reason, we are only human, apart from being sinners, we also have control over every decision, good or bad, that person has acknowledged it and accepted the consequences of every choice in his life.

That's what I know, by talking about a religion cannot fully make that person feel conscious. Only you can control your emotions. Not only gambling, because emotions are always involved all the time.

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It's very hard to control emotions because of losing money, not just gambling. But that's what happens when we gamble without good self-control. Sadness will come to us but we still have the opportunity not to be too sad anymore by reducing gambling activities so we can still have money. Everyone will react differently when they lose money from gambling, but everyone will be sad. And the difference is that some may consider it a risk from playing gambling but some consider it nothing because they don't really think about losing money at the gambling table.
I want to believe that the case brought to us here is extremely rare: a grandfather who kidnapped his own granddaughter to be able to continue gambling. But, uncommon cases apart, I think that we all should reflect a little bit before starting gambling, like how much money and time do we want to spend doing that, or one's psychological state and environment.

Because the experience is not the same for someone who has financial freedom and a beatutiful family as for someone who is depressed and desperately looking for an escape route.
That's where responsibilities and discipline kick in, someone who understands that they are obliged to take care of the beautiful family that they have will never attempt to gamble and even if they do, they will always know their limits of both time and funds so that they have enough left from both of these things for their family as they need it the most.

As for someone who has no responsibilities, it is up to them how they want to spend their money, but even such people should be careful so that they don't get addicted as it can turn their life upside down if not taken care of.
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May 30, 2023, 07:14:09 PM
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It is surprising how not only different religions, but different countries also, have such different impressions about gambling. For some, gambling/betting is a normal activity, it is advertised everywhere, and nothing happens, while for others it is a sin and/or a reason to end up in jail.

Even within the same religion (I'm also a Christian), different points of view are our daily bread.

I sincerely believe that we should all respect each other, regardless of our religion or ideology, and neither criticize nor force anyone to do something they do not want to do. And, if eventually someone needs help, give it to him.

I'm sure every religion teaches good things and instructs to stay away from despicable actions, I'm 100% sure of that even including gambling even though with the big title gambling is prohibited. But whatever the reason, we are only human, apart from being sinners, we also have control over every decision, good or bad, that person has acknowledged it and accepted the consequences of every choice in his life.

That's what I know, by talking about a religion cannot fully make that person feel conscious. Only you can control your emotions. Not only gambling, because emotions are always involved all the time.

Yeah right, it's still you that will decide to whatever action you take. Gambling is your sole responsibility for how restricted you are or whatever things that may affect your gambling activities. It's still you who will decide in what direction you will take. It's your responsibility at all cause your decision will state every action that you will going to take.

Not going to go with religion or other culture, but I will stay with your own decision making and whatever action that you pick regarding to your gambling participation.

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May 30, 2023, 07:34:07 PM
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I want to believe that the case brought to us here is extremely rare: a grandfather who kidnapped his own granddaughter to be able to continue gambling. But, uncommon cases apart, I think that we all should reflect a little bit before starting gambling, like how much money and time do we want to spend doing that, or one's psychological state and environment.

Because the experience is not the same for someone who has financial freedom and a beatutiful family as for someone who is depressed and desperately looking for an escape route.

I think cases like this are very rare indeed, especially if the grandfather who kidnaps is his own grandson. there are various sides that we can see from this incident, it could even be that the grandfather just pretended to be pitied by his son to give money. but what is certain, we can only examine this case from the sources provided by the OP. I think to find out more, we must have more detailed information. unfortunately, this case is not ours. so, we can only assume and gain wisdom from the case.

Regarding what you say in this post, it should keep our minds awake and sane. contemplating is something that is very necessary, even we can correct what we have been through. without exception, involving him from gambling activities. we agree, how much time we spend, and how the circumstances that make someone do things beyond their common sense affect their psychology. in essence, back to ourselves and how we define gambling. because it's important to me. at least, I have an alarm that limits us from getting out of control or limiting us to excessive activities.

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