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May 31, 2023, 06:57:07 AM
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I want to believe that the case brought to us here is extremely rare: a grandfather who kidnapped his own granddaughter to be able to continue gambling. But, uncommon cases apart, I think that we all should reflect a little bit before starting gambling, like how much money and time do we want to spend doing that, or one's psychological state and environment.

Because the experience is not the same for someone who has financial freedom and a beatutiful family as for someone who is depressed and desperately looking for an escape route.

I think cases like this are very rare indeed, especially if the grandfather who kidnaps is his own grandson. there are various sides that we can see from this incident, it could even be that the grandfather just pretended to be pitied by his son to give money. but what is certain, we can only examine this case from the sources provided by the OP. I think to find out more, we must have more detailed information. unfortunately, this case is not ours. so, we can only assume and gain wisdom from the case.

Regarding what you say in this post, it should keep our minds awake and sane. contemplating is something that is very necessary, even we can correct what we have been through. without exception, involving him from gambling activities. we agree, how much time we spend, and how the circumstances that make someone do things beyond their common sense affect their psychology. in essence, back to ourselves and how we define gambling. because it's important to me. at least, I have an alarm that limits us from getting out of control or limiting us to excessive activities.
]My muslim friend believe gambling is a sin because it forces us to get money by hook or by crook. When you are in stress and financal in trouble you dont see good way or bad way to full fill your need.
So if you are in finincal stress dont gamble because you think that you will get rich that is not correct

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May 31, 2023, 07:08:34 AM
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I want to believe that the case brought to us here is extremely rare: a grandfather who kidnapped his own granddaughter to be able to continue gambling. But, uncommon cases apart, I think that we all should reflect a little bit before starting gambling, like how much money and time do we want to spend doing that, or one's psychological state and environment.

Because the experience is not the same for someone who has financial freedom and a beatutiful family as for someone who is depressed and desperately looking for an escape route.

I think cases like this are very rare indeed, especially if the grandfather who kidnaps is his own grandson. there are various sides that we can see from this incident, it could even be that the grandfather just pretended to be pitied by his son to give money. but what is certain, we can only examine this case from the sources provided by the OP. I think to find out more, we must have more detailed information. unfortunately, this case is not ours. so, we can only assume and gain wisdom from the case.

Regarding what you say in this post, it should keep our minds awake and sane. contemplating is something that is very necessary, even we can correct what we have been through. without exception, involving him from gambling activities. we agree, how much time we spend, and how the circumstances that make someone do things beyond their common sense affect their psychology. in essence, back to ourselves and how we define gambling. because it's important to me. at least, I have an alarm that limits us from getting out of control or limiting us to excessive activities.
]My muslim friend believe gambling is a sin because it forces us to get money by hook or by crook. When you are in stress and financal in trouble you dont see good way or bad way to full fill your need.
So if you are in finincal stress dont gamble because you think that you will get rich that is not correct
that is a religious belief mate and we cannot conquer that , let them have their beliefs and let us have our gambling activities .
respect our differences and yes I also have plenty of Muslim friends and they are not playing with us but at least they enjoy with me and our friends sometimes when playing online .









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May 31, 2023, 08:31:35 AM
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If a gambler seems to present himself the way he was being an addicted gambler and feels comfortable or that nothing is wrong with that, then there will be situations coming ahead over time that will lead to the frustration he never expect coming, by then it would have been an inevitable consequence on addition, that is why we have to treat addiction before it goes beyond the normal control that we may not be able to handle later in future, most addicts are also drugs addict base on some people's believe according to the research they have conducted.

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May 31, 2023, 09:21:08 AM
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]My muslim friend believe gambling is a sin because it forces us to get money by hook or by crook. When you are in stress and financal in trouble you dont see good way or bad way to full fill your need.
So if you are in finincal stress dont gamble because you think that you will get rich that is not correct
When related to religion, gambling is considered a sin and if they are devout believers, they will never approach gambling and other things their religion prohibits.

And it is true that if we are experiencing financial difficulties, we should look for other ways to help make money. Playing gambling at that time will only add to the burden and deeper frustration, especially if we experience a lot of losses. It is better to prevent gambling addiction than cure it because it is not easy. And we have to think about the risks of playing gambling.
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May 31, 2023, 02:26:46 PM
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If a gambler seems to present himself the way he was being an addicted gambler and feels comfortable or that nothing is wrong with that, then there will be situations coming ahead over time that will lead to the frustration he never expect coming, by then it would have been an inevitable consequence on addition, that is why we have to treat addiction before it goes beyond the normal control that we may not be able to handle later in future, most addicts are also drugs addict base on some people's believe according to the research they have conducted.

There are really consequences on our actions. Hence, we must do our very best to be responsible for every of it because we just reap what we sow. If you don't have limitations and let yourself be addicted in gambling, then nonchalantly disregard all of your other duties, the time will come you will suffer the negative effects of it and you will not like it. You have no other options but to face it eventually because running from problems won't really solve it. You're just going to delay the outcomes, but you can't avoid it forever.

Regarding being a drug abuser at the same time, I don't think it fits every time because some addicts aren't really dependent on drugs for dopamine. They have this some kind of cheap thrills from being able to play consecutively and perhaps excessively. So, I think it's not good for us to assume nor to generalized without really backing it up with legitimate references and citations of studies, since addiction is a sensitive topic as well.
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May 31, 2023, 10:49:03 PM
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There are really consequences on our actions. Hence, we must do our very best to be responsible for every of it because we just reap what we sow. If you don't have limitations and let yourself be addicted in gambling, then nonchalantly disregard all of your other duties, the time will come you will suffer the negative effects of it and you will not like it. You have no other options but to face it eventually because running from problems won't really solve it. You're just going to delay the outcomes, but you can't avoid it forever.

Regarding being a drug abuser at the same time, I don't think it fits every time because some addicts aren't really dependent on drugs for dopamine. They have this some kind of cheap thrills from being able to play consecutively and perhaps excessively. So, I think it's not good for us to assume nor to generalized without really backing it up with legitimate references and citations of studies, since addiction is a sensitive topic as well.

I do think that it's a similar thing to addiction. It can be anything that produces a positive feeling in the brain.

People get addicted to anything, even gambling. The main issue with gambling in particular is that it can get quite expensive, you can lose your entire life savings in a night, whereas with other addictions the cost is way less, even though they might be so addictive.

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May 31, 2023, 11:49:04 PM
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There are really consequences on our actions. Hence, we must do our very best to be responsible for every of it because we just reap what we sow. If you don't have limitations and let yourself be addicted in gambling, then nonchalantly disregard all of your other duties, the time will come you will suffer the negative effects of it and you will not like it. You have no other options but to face it eventually because running from problems won't really solve it. You're just going to delay the outcomes, but you can't avoid it forever.

Regarding being a drug abuser at the same time, I don't think it fits every time because some addicts aren't really dependent on drugs for dopamine. They have this some kind of cheap thrills from being able to play consecutively and perhaps excessively. So, I think it's not good for us to assume nor to generalized without really backing it up with legitimate references and citations of studies, since addiction is a sensitive topic as well.

I do think that it's a similar thing to addiction. It can be anything that produces a positive feeling in the brain.

People get addicted to anything, even gambling. The main issue with gambling in particular is that it can get quite expensive, you can lose your entire life savings in a night, whereas with other addictions the cost is way less, even though they might be so addictive.
The gambling addiction used to be very expensive against the other forms of addiction. For drug addiction or to stop smoking there are medicine and other alternatives that could make people hate the habit of drugs and smoking. With gambling things were different and there is need of self willingness and the mind control. This makes gambling the worst of addiction from which one cannot easily get out. As said it is the difficult one to cure as well as the expensive one that cause big financial problem in life.

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June 01, 2023, 01:22:19 PM
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If a gambler seems to present himself the way he was being an addicted gambler and feels comfortable or that nothing is wrong with that, then there will be situations coming ahead over time that will lead to the frustration he never expect coming, by then it would have been an inevitable consequence on addition, that is why we have to treat addiction before it goes beyond the normal control that we may not be able to handle later in future, most addicts are also drugs addict base on some people's believe according to the research they have conducted.

Going deeper to this kind of addiction will keep you push for more, I agree that it will be getting worse than the previous and if you will not stop or if the willingness to stop is no longer present for sure it will cause more problem at all. You need to make sure that you will be able to work it out and you are willing if you are in the situation, but most common in this kind of issue is the gambler itself is not willing to accept his own addictions.

Things that he's no longer aware of some unexpected things that he can do to please the addiction inside him.

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]My muslim friend believe gambling is a sin because it forces us to get money by hook or by crook. When you are in stress and financal in trouble you dont see good way or bad way to full fill your need.
So if you are in finincal stress dont gamble because you think that you will get rich that is not correct
afaik it's not because gamblers are trying hard to get money in any way that gambling is illegal, but rather the negative effects that will occur if a gambler experiences a severe gambling addiction. every religion prohibits humans from loving worldly things, that's why things related to gambling are haram.

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June 01, 2023, 07:28:26 PM
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This is not just for gambling any form of addiction could lead to madness.
When a person gets addicted to something they would go or do some crazy things just to continue on it.
I for one has been addicted to online games and it was worst back when I was just a student, I used to only think about games and how I could continue on it or play.
I was also addicted to gambling before, I would try to recover my loss and sometimes even if I do recover from it my greed wouldn't be satisfied and I would continue to gamble and end up losing again.



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June 01, 2023, 09:31:05 PM
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]My muslim friend believe gambling is a sin because it forces us to get money by hook or by crook. When you are in stress and financal in trouble you dont see good way or bad way to full fill your need.
So if you are in finincal stress dont gamble because you think that you will get rich that is not correct
a little OOT but because I have a little difficulty accepting bringing religion into gambling.
sinful or not is none of their business because the one who determines sin or not is only God. I am also Muslim but for me this is not pressure to do gambling but if God gives destiny we get a lot of money from gambling, are you going to refuse it?

btw, if gambling is a sin, what is the law on someone who promotes a scam gambling site? is it also a sin? try asking your friends.



This is not just for gambling any form of addiction could lead to madness.
When a person gets addicted to something they would go or do some crazy things just to continue on it.
I for one has been addicted to online games and it was worst back when I was just a student, I used to only think about games and how I could continue on it or play.
I was also addicted to gambling before, I would try to recover my loss and sometimes even if I do recover from it my greed wouldn't be satisfied and I would continue to gamble and end up losing again.
if you compare the madness of gambling addicts and game addicts it is different and lighter game addicts because game addicts do not spend money every day but if gambling addicts are crazy about gambling they will come to gambling every day to do gambling in the hope of doubling their money and when they have entering the gambling area, he feels satisfied and happy because the madness of a gambling addict is very difficult to define in real terms and it is difficult to treat a gambling addict who is already severe.

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many gambling addicts have lost their minds because their desire to continue gambling overpowers their common sense, hence the importance of "gambling responsibly"
Gambling consumes the human mind in such a way that if gambling fails to make money then a mentally deranged gambler included himself in any anti-social activities. The scenario you mentioned is possible for a deranged gambler. He could not manage his gambling money and kidnapped his granddaughter which is against the principles of an ideal gambler. However, not all gamblers engage in such unethical criminal activities.

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I want to believe that the case brought to us here is extremely rare: a grandfather who kidnapped his own granddaughter to be able to continue gambling. But, uncommon cases apart, I think that we all should reflect a little bit before starting gambling, like how much money and time do we want to spend doing that, or one's psychological state and environment.

Because the experience is not the same for someone who has financial freedom and a beatutiful family as for someone who is depressed and desperately looking for an escape route.

I think cases like this are very rare indeed, especially if the grandfather who kidnaps is his own grandson. there are various sides that we can see from this incident, it could even be that the grandfather just pretended to be pitied by his son to give money. but what is certain, we can only examine this case from the sources provided by the OP. I think to find out more, we must have more detailed information. unfortunately, this case is not ours. so, we can only assume and gain wisdom from the case.

Regarding what you say in this post, it should keep our minds awake and sane. contemplating is something that is very necessary, even we can correct what we have been through. without exception, involving him from gambling activities. we agree, how much time we spend, and how the circumstances that make someone do things beyond their common sense affect their psychology. in essence, back to ourselves and how we define gambling. because it's important to me. at least, I have an alarm that limits us from getting out of control or limiting us to excessive activities.
]My muslim friend believe gambling is a sin because it forces us to get money by hook or by crook. When you are in stress and financal in trouble you dont see good way or bad way to full fill your need.
So if you are in finincal stress dont gamble because you think that you will get rich that is not correct

Thats their belief which we know that a lot of religion really prohibited it as it is a sin and we people that do gambling is that we should respect them as thats their personal belief. The way they understand is very different to us as others may really gain something from gambling and others haven't. As long as you treated gambling as a rich quick stuff(unless got lucky) you will lose more money and again leads to addiction as you are more frequently playing
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The way they understand is very different to us as others may really gain something from gambling and others haven't. As long as you treated gambling as a rich quick stuff(unless got lucky) you will lose more money and again leads to addiction as you are more frequently playing
Perhaps what you mean by someone who always gaining profits is the gambling operator or gambling platform owner.
As long as gambling platforms exist, the gambling industry will continue to profit from its players. Casinos are constructed and further improved using the money brought in by the players. The gambling industry is highly lucrative, especially with the advent of online gambling, which has made it even more accessible to anyone regardless of age or location.

     

The image depicts the statistical circulation of gambling money in Canada within one year. It is undeniably substantial and truly legitimizes the profitability for both platform holders and casino owners, doesn't it?

Meanwhile, in Las Vegas alone, we will encounter even more mind-boggling figures than those in Canada.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/willyakowicz/2023/02/01/nevada-set-a-gaming-revenue-record-in-2022-with-148-billion/?sh=2d4a83c51b30

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many gambling addicts have lost their minds because their desire to continue gambling overpowers their common sense, hence the importance of "gambling responsibly"
Gambling consumes the human mind in such a way that if gambling fails to make money then a mentally deranged gambler included himself in any anti-social activities. The scenario you mentioned is possible for a deranged gambler. He could not manage his gambling money and kidnapped his granddaughter which is against the principles of an ideal gambler. However, not all gamblers engage in such unethical criminal activities.
Indeed, not all gamblers are involved in such criminal activities, but there may be other criminal activities carried out by crazy gamblers that we also don't know. Someone with a serious gambling addiction can do anything to have money to continue gambling. We may have seen someone rob or steal other people's money because they want to gamble. And instead of using the money to survive, they want to use it to gamble. And that is why it is very difficult to have responsibility for gambling. When we gamble, we can forget everything because of the pleasure that gambling gives, especially if we can win a lot of money.

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June 02, 2023, 04:26:34 PM
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If a gambler seems to present himself the way he was being an addicted gambler and feels comfortable or that nothing is wrong with that, then there will be situations coming ahead over time that will lead to the frustration he never expect coming, by then it would have been an inevitable consequence on addition, that is why we have to treat addiction before it goes beyond the normal control that we may not be able to handle later in future, most addicts are also drugs addict base on some people's believe according to the research they have conducted.
A gambling addict doesn't necessarily have to be a drug addict as well, some of them might be but those are very rare cases. A drug addict generally doesn't have any money to gamble and even if they do, they are mostly not in their perfect senses and someone without any sense cannot gamble and even if they do, they can never manage to win anything.

Gambling addict who doesn't think that they are addicted or need any assistance is never going to let anyone help them out of the situation, only those gamblers who acknowledge the fact that they are in trouble because of their gambling habit can be helped.
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A gambling addict doesn't necessarily have to be a drug addict as well, some of them might be but those are very rare cases. A drug addict generally doesn't have any money to gamble and even if they do, they are mostly not in their perfect senses and someone without any sense cannot gamble and even if they do, they can never manage to win anything.

Gambling addict who doesn't think that they are addicted or need any assistance is never going to let anyone help them out of the situation, only those gamblers who acknowledge the fact that they are in trouble because of their gambling habit can be helped.

only a small percentage of gambling addicts are drug addicts and vice versa but in several cases in my country are many crystal methamphetamine users who gamble on slots even for days on end because the effects of using methamphetamine they use are insomnia and very self-confidence, so that's not no wonder they love meth so much because of the effects they can feel from using it.

people who become gambling addicts + drug addicts, it is almost impossible to be saved, that person will definitely easily ruin their life.


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A gambling addict doesn't necessarily have to be a drug addict as well, some of them might be but those are very rare cases. A drug addict generally doesn't have any money to gamble and even if they do, they are mostly not in their perfect senses and someone without any sense cannot gamble and even if they do, they can never manage to win anything.

Gambling addict who doesn't think that they are addicted or need any assistance is never going to let anyone help them out of the situation, only those gamblers who acknowledge the fact that they are in trouble because of their gambling habit can be helped.

only a small percentage of gambling addicts are drug addicts and vice versa but in several cases in my country are many crystal methamphetamine users who gamble on slots even for days on end because the effects of using methamphetamine they use are insomnia and very self-confidence, so that's not no wonder they love meth so much because of the effects they can feel from using it.

people who become gambling addicts + drug addicts, it is almost impossible to be saved, that person will definitely easily ruin their life.
I agree, there is the mistaken belief that we can do everything no matter how difficult it is, however a person can stoop so low that is simply impossible for them to ever recover from it, and if a person develops two ongoing addictions then I would say that is impossible to save them, as at that point is impossible for them to not realize that what they are doing is destroying their lives and yet their desire to fulfill their want to keep their addictions going is stronger than anything.
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June 03, 2023, 08:17:22 PM
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A gambling addict doesn't necessarily have to be a drug addict as well, some of them might be but those are very rare cases. A drug addict generally doesn't have any money to gamble and even if they do, they are mostly not in their perfect senses and someone without any sense cannot gamble and even if they do, they can never manage to win anything.

Gambling addict who doesn't think that they are addicted or need any assistance is never going to let anyone help them out of the situation, only those gamblers who acknowledge the fact that they are in trouble because of their gambling habit can be helped.

only a small percentage of gambling addicts are drug addicts and vice versa but in several cases in my country are many crystal methamphetamine users who gamble on slots even for days on end because the effects of using methamphetamine they use are insomnia and very self-confidence, so that's not no wonder they love meth so much because of the effects they can feel from using it.

people who become gambling addicts + drug addicts, it is almost impossible to be saved, that person will definitely easily ruin their life.
I agree, there is the mistaken belief that we can do everything no matter how difficult it is, however a person can stoop so low that is simply impossible for them to ever recover from it, and if a person develops two ongoing addictions then I would say that is impossible to save them, as at that point is impossible for them to not realize that what they are doing is destroying their lives and yet their desire to fulfill their want to keep their addictions going is stronger than anything.

Both addictions need to have a sell-will to address the problem but in your scenarios if both are being acquired and there's no willingness to seek help in curing this problem the person who are addicted from both gambling and drugs will keep ruin their life. Nothing to expect but to seek for keeping the pleasure and keeping their desire be filled.

The madness of keeping to have money to fulfill their addictions can force them to do illegal things.

As the addiction is already deep inside their brain and the only thing that's important is to make sure that they'll be able to satisfy their needs.

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June 03, 2023, 09:31:15 PM
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A gambling addict doesn't necessarily have to be a drug addict as well, some of them might be but those are very rare cases. A drug addict generally doesn't have any money to gamble and even if they do, they are mostly not in their perfect senses and someone without any sense cannot gamble and even if they do, they can never manage to win anything.

Gambling addict who doesn't think that they are addicted or need any assistance is never going to let anyone help them out of the situation, only those gamblers who acknowledge the fact that they are in trouble because of their gambling habit can be helped.

only a small percentage of gambling addicts are drug addicts and vice versa but in several cases in my country are many crystal methamphetamine users who gamble on slots even for days on end because the effects of using methamphetamine they use are insomnia and very self-confidence, so that's not no wonder they love meth so much because of the effects they can feel from using it.

people who become gambling addicts + drug addicts, it is almost impossible to be saved, that person will definitely easily ruin their life.
I agree, there is the mistaken belief that we can do everything no matter how difficult it is, however a person can stoop so low that is simply impossible for them to ever recover from it, and if a person develops two ongoing addictions then I would say that is impossible to save them, as at that point is impossible for them to not realize that what they are doing is destroying their lives and yet their desire to fulfill their want to keep their addictions going is stronger than anything.

Both addictions need to have a sell-will to address the problem but in your scenarios if both are being acquired and there's no willingness to seek help in curing this problem the person who are addicted from both gambling and drugs will keep ruin their life. Nothing to expect but to seek for keeping the pleasure and keeping their desire be filled.

The madness of keeping to have money to fulfill their addictions can force them to do illegal things.

As the addiction is already deep inside their brain and the only thing that's important is to make sure that they'll be able to satisfy their needs.
Addiction is something that could really be solved out with self will, it is really just that there are people who doesnt really mind off about the consequences and this is why they would really just simply
tolerate out their addiction into its fullest and this is why unfortunate events and situations would really be that something that would really surely happen into you. You would really be having only that feeling
of regret on the time that everything is messed up. Therefore, if  you dont really like for this to happen then you should really be that wise on making up decisions because if you dont then
it would really be that common that you would really be able to face up the consequences.

In speaking about addiction on which we a certain individual would definitely be doing all sorts of things as long as they could be able to play up no matter what. They dont really care on the current condition
or finances that they do have because they would really be that confident that they do still have money on their pockets until the time comes when they do realize that they have none already.
This is where self realizations would kicked in.

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